Shadowrun Mafia - Aztechnology Headquarters (Scum PT)

Froot Loop · Post Post #480 (isolation #0) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:22 am

Hey, sorry for the delay in posting - I work weekends. I've read the main thread and that's it apart from this first page (I didn't know about the traitor when I was reading

) it's late now and i'm also in asia so i'm usually on a different timezone to a lot of other people.

Looking forward to it!

Froot Loop · Post Post #492 (isolation #1) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:11 pm

Ok, I think I'm kind of caught up. I didn't want to post until I'd read everything and then realised what a huge task that was. Also, this is definitely the most complicated game i've played in, so sorry if I get a bit confused.

I'm also a super slow poster in general; it takes me a long time :/

Questions:
- is jaereed masons with mcmenno? what's going on there?
- is karnos going to flip red? If so, his points about you and Jae are useless and it's not worthwhile bussing. Like, he's going to flip red so everyone will see he's scum, the foudation for his logic (that he's town and was framed) will be worthless.
- what's up with vedith's post about protecting SC? Just trolling?

I'll post today, chat about the following, let me know what you think:
- the likelihood of a day-framer/jaereed being scum is low so makes the vig shot a waste. Also, chance for RB, tampering, etc. etc. - Do you think I should say this? I don't want to be suspicious but it seems like a logical next step from jaereed's last post.
- what's the scenario for mcmenno being town and SC scum? that mcmenno was trolling and tried to implicate SC in his trolling because he suspected them? i think it's likely either scum/scum, with some reason for wanting them both in prison, or mcmenno-scum/SC-town.
- about the prison break - are players just released back into the game if they aren't killed during a prison break? if so, it's important that we know if anyone has a low probability of surviving a prison break.

Reads:
I can't think of any reason to scumread anyone. Maybe ABR for saying he's ok with the vig?
People who sheeped the trolling explanation of mcmenno's play - i don't think it's a likely option, and it does the following: town-explanation for mcmenno, eliminates the possibility of motive analysis (as above.) Math, did you say something about this?

Froot Loop · Post Post #493 (isolation #2) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:12 pm

I've also got a super long day at work today which is annoying, but i've put "POST IN MAFIA" on my to do list so i'll jump on later and post accordingly depending on what you guys think or if you haven't said anything.

Froot Loop · Post Post #497 (isolation #3) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:03 pm

I won't push the vig but in terms of the game, the only difference is that death has a flip and prison doesn't? So if all the scum players are in prison, the game ends? Is that right?

Froot Loop · Post Post #498 (isolation #4) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:07 pm

I think it makes sense to trust your read on Jae and vice versa as well. Something like: the vig will confirm as scum so if either of you were scum, you'd want to avoid the rolecop. If you're townreading each other, guesses are that that didn't happen. Although not applicable in multiball.

Froot Loop · Post Post #500 (isolation #5) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:24 pm

I meant the rolecop on karnos

I get the thing about the flip info, I just think it's so unlikely that the result is wrong that it's a waste of the vig. Like, we're super close to knowing that he's scum now because a day framer is so unlikely. We're not getting that much extra information. I think I'd think this as town, but I'm happy not to put anything in thread.
I'm so confused. I thought you got the rolecop because the mission was a success?
What's Jae's role? He said something about chatting to mcmenno about something.
I'm worried that ABR seems more interested in who he goes on a run with rather than what the run is. Do you think he's got some plan?

Can I quote from the main thread in here? Or anywhere else?

Froot Loop · Post Post #501 (isolation #6) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:38 pm

And where's the list of missions?

Froot Loop · Post Post #512 (isolation #7) » Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:26 am

I posted guyzz!!

Froot Loop · Post Post #523 (isolation #8) » Tue Aug 30, 2016 3:57 pm

Came online and there isn't multiple pages to catch up on! This is glorious.

Yeah, I was worried about the way abr is going about organising the mission. He swapped us onto his team without saying anything about it, but he did swap us out for you, because you can't go with Jae.

Anyway, we can see.

I haven't posted about the mission yet. I haven't looked at the stats and stuff properly yet.

Froot Loop · Post Post #528 (isolation #9) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:53 am

Huh? A guilty on Jaereed?

I take it we're not worried about the gun or how you got it? Using it is fine? I'm guessing it was what was used to kill Drixx but the flavor's odd: post 979

Do you usually get clues from flavour with these mods?

Froot Loop · Post Post #529 (isolation #10) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:13 am

I also might not be able to post tomorrow. I'm moving house and then work in the evening. Maybe in the afternoon if I'm not napping

Froot Loop · Post Post #533 (isolation #11) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:39 pm

I don't get the point of it either, but well. We do need to decide what we want to happen today, no? If we lynch Jae, then it's not a problem to avoid abr and all that on the mission. It's going to be harder to get that going now that Jae's said that he might die. I thought he'd confirm the other way

I don't really get how his role works actually.

About the gun - the flavour's that it's Aztechnology, assuming it was this gun that did the kill last night.

Do you have any info about how the gun is passed on? Do you get to choose?

Froot Loop · Post Post #559 (isolation #12) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:24 pm

About the bounty? It can still be multiball though?

Froot Loop · Post Post #561 (isolation #13) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:27 pm

I know absolutely nothing about setups and this is well documented, so I can speculate away! hahaha. eating lunch now though so I'm not going to post.

Froot Loop · Post Post #564 (isolation #14) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:32 pm

Jae's comment about the roleblocking made me think - if we do that plan and the vig on the same night, it's less likely that they'll both be tampered with because we'll be doing loads of stuff in a night. worth mentioning?

I'm still confused about what we actually want to do today. lynching jae or worldz is pretty equal in my mind.

Froot Loop · Post Post #565 (isolation #15) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:32 pm

spending my lunch with you guys <3

Froot Loop · Post Post #567 (isolation #16) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:37 pm

Ok, so worldz. and it's possible worldz is a cop. he's playing quite sanctimoniously, cops can do that.

Froot Loop · Post Post #606 (isolation #17) » Fri Sep 02, 2016 5:27 am

so i wasn't on earlier when this all blew up! ABR's pretty crazy but I guess he's tunnelling. He's right that we shouldn't be lynching karnos today though and getting a lynch through somewhere else. See what Jae says. If he wants to be the lynch, I say we support that - although how is it implicated that koggz is now gone? maybe she wasn't one of the methods of escaping anyway.

Should be able to post something briefly tomorrow.

Froot Loop · Post Post #617 (isolation #18) » Sat Sep 03, 2016 1:25 pm

it's like you're in miiiiind. there's nothing i can do.

Froot Loop · Post Post #620 (isolation #19) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 5:02 am

Don't worry about it Math, you're VLA. Hope you're having a good holiday!

Just posted about the Worldz/PV situation. Worldz' play has been so bad that I fully support ignoring the bounty and going off how bad his play has been. ABR's given us that opportunity as well because Worldz' vote was weak and someone else has commented about that as well.

We've got a bit of time today so I guess we can see what happens. I don't think the pressure on you is going to continue today, at least. It's ridiculous. ABR's SK theory is gonna be difficult because catching karnos is one of the big things making you look town. But we can probably even deal with that for a day or two, unless we think he's a cop. Maybe trying to get him lynched would be a better outcome for today? I didn't think about that before posting :/

Froot Loop · Post Post #621 (isolation #20) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 5:06 am

Damn, I slipped again. Sorrrryyy! Need to stop posting when I get back from work.

Froot Loop · Post Post #648 (isolation #21) » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:34 pm

Meh, I don't think it is. I thought about it and then realised i don't really care about PV! Hahaha.

So KC got ABR's note but wrong recipient? This is pretty worrying - I guess ABR is going to think KC is town now.

Froot Loop · Post Post #658 (isolation #22) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:42 am

I did not get that at all. From what he said about his theories?

I'm assuming we're rejecting the possibility of shooting someone else and shouting about a redirect or something? I'm just wondering if we have a shitload of towncred if we do it right.

Froot Loop · Post Post #661 (isolation #23) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:31 pm

Ah, ok, dayum.

Froot Loop · Post Post #679 (isolation #24) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:58 am

I'm here. Think I'm going to post and try to get people to vote Worldz. ABR is being ridiculous and Worldz has done more scummy things. I've said what I think about the bounty so I'm ignoring that.

Froot Loop · Post Post #680 (isolation #25) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:59 am

Gonna swap accounts so I don't slip!

Froot Loop · Post Post #682 (isolation #26) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:20 am

don't worry! hope you're better soon

Froot Loop · Post Post #698 (isolation #27) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:04 pm

I'm V/LA until Friday - going on holiday! I'll pop in and probably at least post in here

Froot Loop · Post Post #715 (isolation #28) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:58 pm

Sorry I'm not here to play this through!

Froot Loop · Post Post #862 (isolation #29) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:50 am

JESUS. Why have I missed so much??? Whyyyyyy

Froot Loop · Post Post #867 (isolation #30) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:10 am

OK, I've read up, pretty bullshit. (Sorry about the swearing, let me know if it's offensive or to stop! It's just so natural

)

House and FA haven't read up properly. We can justify our suspicion of ABR through his defense of Worldz, which I don't think he's explained. Math was on the mission which investigated Karnos and Jae's townreading them off that. I don't think we should let House bully us off that.

That's my instinct.

Froot Loop · Post Post #872 (isolation #31) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:16 am

I don't think we need to hardcore address it. You're going to kill karnos so ABR shouldn't be gunning for you tomorrow. We can decide if we want to push the ABR/Worldz thing and D&D is an option. I think House got a bit excited over you missing something which a confscum player said. I don't know. I don't have as much experience playing with you but that seems like something NAI.

Froot Loop · Post Post #873 (isolation #32) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:17 am

What PT section?

Froot Loop · Post Post #878 (isolation #33) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:30 am

Why does ABR think workdz is town?

Il check the pt, I'm in my phone at the moment (hence the horrible typing.)

Froot Loop · Post Post #881 (isolation #34) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 6:18 am

do you think it'll be suspicious because he's so suspicious of math?

Froot Loop · Post Post #886 (isolation #35) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 7:41 am

I think keeping FA around is definitely a plus. She's pretty open which will be good and work with Jae as well. I honestly fancy questioning ABR on his play. I don't know if he's legitimately townreading us or is trying to get us what he wants but that's how it feels like he's playing.

In terms of figuring out the game, I guess Worldz is a possible cop, still need to catch up on why ABR is townreading worldz.

I'm going to post in the mission PT, something about catching up but agreeing with the redirect blocker. I'll say it also limits the possibilities Math has for explaining the kill not going through if they do try that (I know you're not going to!)

Heading to bed now.

Froot Loop · Post Post #958 (isolation #36) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:45 pm

No worries. I'm pissed at D&D and their misrepping.

Froot Loop · Post Post #959 (isolation #37) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:46 pm

Jesus, slip again.

Froot Loop · Post Post #970 (isolation #38) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:54 pm

Yeah, it looks good.

Froot Loop · Post Post #987 (isolation #39) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:36 pm

I need to stop reading this thread first. It's so dramatic!

Froot Loop · Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:41 pm

I don't think we can survive the night though, which is tricky. Is there anyone to lynch other than D&D? If so, we can throw shade but try and get someone else lynched and then ABR could shoot D&D? I think they're the only players he'd shoot over us.

Froot Loop · Post Post #1179 (isolation #41) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:05 pm

I can't approve it because I haven't read the main thread! Hahaha.

Thanks for the kind words

) You guys are doing so much work and getting us this far. Good work all round

Froot Loop · Post Post #1188 (isolation #42) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:16 am

Yeah, no worries Scout! I've clearly got this covered and we will definitely not be lynched by the time you've got more time!

Froot Loop · Post Post #1190 (isolation #43) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:22 pm

Yeah, it's weird. I'll post and say I'll vote for D&D before deadline if it comes to it.

Froot Loop · Post Post #1192 (isolation #44) » Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:22 am

Oooo, I can't post now but D&D's claim is interesting. And NC has been weak.

Froot Loop · Post Post #1386 (isolation #45) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:21 pm

Excellent work guys! And pleasant to read through

Sorry I wasn't around, but good work!!

Froot Loop · Post Post #1395 (isolation #46) » Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:34 am

not sure if it's relevant anymore since i'm thoroughly confused, but D&D's power meant they couldn't give the gun to the same person, so Math might not be able to get it again.