Mini Normal 1839 - Dead/Spectator PT

[Foxbird]

Welcome!

If you're a spectator: Hi!
If you're a dead player: Hi! Sorry for your death. </3

Spoilers go into spoiler tags! Don't ruin the read for anyone.

Spoiler: Spectators

• inspectorscout
  callforjudgement
  Oacenth
  malpascp
  GreyICE
  Fire Assassin
  Thor665
  aronagrundy
  ironstove
  Lowell
  MathBlade

[Foxbird]

I think at this point it's just you, me, and my friend who wanted to spectate.

Is it normal to be really nervous? Because I'm really nervous :')

[Foxbird]

I'm here as well!

Maybe put up a notice that everything with spoilers should be put in spoiler tags?

Cfj did you get the spoilers or do you want to nailbite yourself?

Oh yeah! Hello, trusted backup mod!
I added that to the original post.
And Cfj was a reviewer, so at least he knows the setup!

[Foxbird]

Are they actually gonna end the day on page 3? :'D

[Foxbird]

Second replacement and I should consider searching one for malpascp if his internet doesn't get better.

Sigh.

[Foxbird]

Sadly, a bunch of replacements early in a 13p is fairly common. It's just one of those things you have to live with as a moderator.

Yeah, I know. I just wish people would see replacing out as NAI, because it

is

. 99% of the time anyway.

[Foxbird]

Oh I'm sorry. Didn't know that was also not okay-ish.

@Oh dear godly modly one: pls remove that content from my post

And no worries CFJ, we are each other's backup mods (if i'm allowed to say that?)

Done!

And yeah I agree that prod-dodging and lurking are scumtells.

I also have no idea how to handle this malpascp situation. :/

[Foxbird]

Lurking isn't a scumtell imo, but it certainly is annoying.

If I were you, I'd just leave him and subject him to your normal activity rules. Don't reset prod timer at bare prod dodges, though.

The rules say that V/LA players are not subject to prods, though.

[Foxbird]

I hope that pause was the right decision. There's, what, three V/LAs right now, plus the empty Knighty Knight slot... mehh.

[Foxbird]

Well that problem solved itself rather quickly :')

[Foxbird]

Ugh I really don't know how to handle this extension business.. it seems fair to extend it by a day, but am I supposed to just do that on one player's request?

[Foxbird]

The question is, do three V/LAs justify a day extension?

Though two of them are supposed to come back on the 23rd. I'll see if things pick up tomorrow, I guess?

[Foxbird]

And now we welcome malpascp into our midst.

Hi!

[Foxbird]

As things stand now, we will get company in the next few hours.

[Foxbird]

Welcome, GreyICE!

Let the WIFOM begin.

[Foxbird]

Do you want me to answer some of those in spoilers?

[Foxbird]

I will share this tiny morsel:

Fire is not fakeclaiming.

[Foxbird]

So what do you think, should I buy some real estate in the replacement thread

because I sure am hanging out there a lot

[Foxbird]

Probably! :')

[Foxbird]

i'm sorry for my absence, cleaning house over the weekend and the impending election is eating up a lot of my time (I'm actually D Trump IRL).

VOTE: Thor

This is like the third time I spotted a vote and went into my mod PT to change the VC, only to realize halfway through that karnos was already voting Thor.
I am but a poor, confused mod. :'(

[Foxbird]

Yup, thread's locked.

Really didn't expect the no lynch, to be honest.

[Foxbird]

Town'll probably at each other's throats tomorrow.

Considering how slow this game has been, I'm almost hoping for it :')

[Foxbird]

If night actions stay as they are now, tomorrow is gonna go

really

quickly.

[Foxbird]

Spoiler: Response to cfj

Based on knowledge of which roles exist in the game]Well, I can only see one way for that to happen, so I guess no lynch was the right option after all? I suspect that there's going to be rather more debate than you're expecting.

There might be some debating, but I'm pretty sure the day can only end one way.

Okay, so they're shooting thor, thor is tracking the person shooting him, and there's a doctor protect?

Can they lynch Saru yet?

Nope! That'd be hilarious though.

Don't think I'd ever put a doc and a bodyguard in the same setup. Seems weird.

[Foxbird]

Quick question:

Spoiler: Reveals a role present in the game and a probable night action

If an investigative role dies, do they still get their results from that same night?

[Foxbird]

That's all I wanted to know! Thanks

[Foxbird]

Welcome, Fire Assassin!

[Foxbird]

My prediction of a really short day came true!
While I was asleep.

Welcome, Thor665!

[Foxbird]

If karnos is scum he is going to go a lot further, but right now i don't think he is.

Probably Lowell/Saru?
Doubtful its Nero Cain, Mathblade, or bji

Do you want spoilers?

It has also come to my attention that I forgot to give Thor the PT link until just now because I'm a derp.
Hi Thor!

[Foxbird]

Welcome, aronagrundy!

[Foxbird]

Here's a little fun fact:

Both factions have one PR left, though I doubt either of them are going to change the game much at this point.

[Foxbird]

Hood info:

Only town in there still, aronagrundy added karnos before he died.

[Foxbird]

There's actually two town PRs left! Whoops. Overlooked one because it doesn't have a night action and wasn't in my night action list thingie.

[Foxbird]

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Foxbird]

Honestly, the fact that every game ends up with people being super toxic at some point is one of the main reasons I decided I don't really wanna play anymore. Playing gives me such bad anxiety that I sometimes can't sleep
So I'll just have to stick to hydraing and modding (and trying to cull toxicity in my modded games as much as I can).

[Foxbird]

Looking at all these readslists... there is one person with near perfect reads. Most people are doing pretty well tho.

[Foxbird]

I think scum have this one tbh, but I'll gladly be surprised.

[Foxbird]

For a second I thought tomorrow was MyLo but it actually isn't?

If there's a mislynch tomorrow it'll be 2:2 on D6, if my math works out.. so that's a 4 player LyLo? Weird.

[Foxbird]

Oh yeah I forgot that town can't actually manage a lynch in 2:2. Whoops.

MyLo tomorrow, then!

[Foxbird]

So does this mean that scum is

Spoiler:

lowell and iron?

You are half correct.

[Foxbird]

Aaaand ironstove joins us!

[Foxbird]

I'm a cruel mistress.

[Foxbird]

I just wanted to see that combination pan out, to be honest. Since Bodyguards can create conftown as well, I found it interesting to try.

[Foxbird]

Scum roles:

Scum is the Encrytor, Odd-Night RB and a Goon.

[Foxbird]

I forgot to add Nero Cain to the dead thread after his lynch.

I did that now though!

Hi!

[Foxbird]

Sigh... so even if lowell gets lynched, math dies tomorrow, then it's penguin/saru/karnos/bji... That's so gross lol, they should definitely no lynch in that scenario and thin the herd because I know everyone is everyone's scum read in that pool.

@mod, what happens if scum opt for no kill and town no lynch indefinitely?

I'd say that after a certain amount of days and nights with no deaths, the game ends in a draw. I'd probably put the threshold at two cycles - so, after two no-lynch days and two no-kill nights, I'd call it. Would of course announce that to the players beforehand, probably after the first cycle with no deaths.

Is there a precedent for this? As in, how many cycles you let pass?

[Foxbird]

On an unrelated note: The main thread has disappeared from my bookmarks for some reason? Removing it and adding it again didn't work. What the heck?

[Foxbird]

Oh. Fun.

[Foxbird]

Aaaand Lowell joins us!

[Foxbird]

Welcome, MathBlade!

And since it's LyLo, here's the rest of the spoilers:

Some have already guessed it right: bji is the last remaining scum.

[Foxbird]

If they don't get the last scum, it's over, unless my math is totally off?

[Foxbird]

Oh I guess it's still just MyLo. Whoops.

I'm tired.

[Foxbird]

I'll go check the Mafia thread for you. Gimme a second.

[Foxbird]

Spoiler: For Math

I'm agnostic on the kill here, though I'd like to keep saru and mathy alive.

Kill Aronagrundy?

Sounds fine.

[Foxbird]

Nero is half right. The last scum has a PR but it doesn't do anything anymore.

[Foxbird]

Spoiler:

The only way I can see town winning is if they opt for the no lynch and then suspicion is thrown on bji for not dying even though everyone says he is towniest.

[Foxbird]

Locking this thread since the game is over!

Go post in the main thread if you want.