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[xyzzy]

this thread is for players who have died to discuss the game in. once the game is over, this thread will be made public.

[xyzzy]

Jake from State Farm now has access to this thread.

[xyzzy]

Raskolnikov now has access to this thread.

[Raskolnikov]

Hooray, I don't have to be passive aggressive about day 1 to everyone today.

[Raskolnikov]

Light was going to be my push today, so this is great. I really wanted gerryoats push to see how light (with her vote there) and maria (with their friendship) would react.
I guess PRs save the day.

[Raskolnikov]

Okay maybe I'm wrong I don't know anything for sure. But I still think its light/gerryoat as the team.

Mod can you spoil BYF align for me? I want to know if jake was right about him and I was wrong, or if I was right.

[Raskolnikov]

Also I like how I asked for no protection and explicitly for the NK and got it LOL. Did they think it was WIFOM or something?

[Jake from State Farm]

Mod wouldn't give me spoilers.

lol at Gerry. He's not in a position to criticize anyone's reasoning

[Raskolnikov]

2016 and still not allowing spoilers.

Of course no one read what I said about gerryoat/light team... I think this is really obvious distancing now.
Thank god I'm dead though because we got the watcher result from it and Iroanvp was raising my blood pressure through the roof...

[Raskolnikov]

Most of your posts are just lower case trying to generate WIFOM and appear relaxed...

this fucking guy SERIOUSLY

[Raskolnikov]

You cannot believe this. If you were obviously town-aligned, you would not be at L-1. This is just posturing...

and this to you

[Jake from State Farm]

Most mods allow spoilers. Not this one tbough

[Jake from State Farm]

I have to say ira is one of the worst players I've played with if he's town.

[Raskolnikov]

i don't know how people don't put 2 and 2 together with gerryoat counterwagoning for light

[Raskolnikov]

OMG this is so fake distancing if people don't see this and clear gerryoat as town from it I'm going to be so mad.

[Raskolnikov]

Took a look at the EoD1 voting log, and Light and Rask voted Gerry. I'll have to look at Rask's reasoning for his vote.

gamma is the voice of reason in this game

[Jake from State Farm]

If there is a ninja I'm going to be even more disappointed. Ninja should be outlawed imo.

[Raskolnikov]

Ninja in this setup would entirely defeat the purpose of watcher. The only way it could even exist would be a scum JOAT with 1-shot of it, and another shot of something like strongman.
More likely scum has a roleblocker or something I think.

[Raskolnikov]

11p game would be balanced with 2 scum and weak PRs. Basically a 9p but with some PR strength traded for 2 extra VTs. Watcher is probably the most powerful town PR, and I assume there any other power roles are a LOT weaker.

Watcher is strong and probably the main PR in this game so ninja wouldn't be at all fair, even 1 shot I think.

[xyzzy]

I didn't want to fully spoil it; here's what I gave Jake:

2:9, 1 mafia power role, 3 town power roles

[xyzzy]

(also there's not a ninja)

[Raskolnikov]

Spoiler:

Yeah, about what was expected. Watcher + 1 medium power PR as an alternative, but I assume in this case because you say its 3 town power its
watcher + 2 very weak roles
Stuff like 1shot doc, BP or maybe bodyguard. Or maybe pair of masons. I did feel a few people having unexplained townreads. And yeah ninja would've been bad here.

[Jake from State Farm]

So rask. Was my play really that bad this game? I feel like nobody even gave good reason for lynching me. It felt like it was more due to everyone town reading yoshi.

[Raskolnikov]

The lynch on you was stupid. I think I had enough influence to prevent it if I knew it would happen, but it happened so fast in literally a few hours, and there was almost a week of deadline left. Only a few people had an actual problem with you, the rest sheeped or they thought it was a 1v1 and that they couldn't wagon any third option. I think part of it was people just didn't like you for some reason, I swear people HATE saying "I don't agree with him but he's probably town, or I don't like his playstyle but he's probably town".

If I was forced to lynch between you and BYF I would have lynched him because he was null/mixed and you were a townread. But even without the read it you were most active and justifying your actions, and day 1 lynch is even more getting rid of people who are useless/deadweight and BYF was lurkish.

[Raskolnikov]

Can't really judge play until the game is over and we can see read accuracy. But BYF was doing wonky stuff so he would almost have deserved to be lynched even if town tbh.