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Yes, on latest stable version; with fun events & mini-games!
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Yes, on latest stable version; for consistency & community! (no plugins)
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Yes, on "snapshots"/development versions; bleeding edge! (definitely no plugins)
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Yes, with Spigot/Bukkit/server "plugins" (or commands like /tpa, /home, etc.)
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Yes, but I'll post with my specific thoughts and ideas!
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Post Post #20125 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 8:12 am

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In post 20124, Maestro wrote:Oh god, let's not base ANYTHING in this discussion off of that thing...

@Maru: I wasn't trying to be rude, but this is a game where you can build literally anything. Of course I can make it work. The sails will most likely be much larger than you had originally envisioned, or I'll do something similar to what Klaz suggests, but all these things make this usable and aesthetically pleasing (to me), not to mention possible. Do you disagree that those measures (larger sails, internal balloons) can still be usable/aesthetically-pleasing just on principle? Then we need to stop talking, because we just won't agree on this.
Yes but they sacrifice functionality of the ship past being aesthetically pleasing. If I fill my interior with balloons or make sails larger then Zeus on the above deck, I sacrifice that space as usable base real estate and now I have a gorgeous operational flying ship that looks like a ship but is useless as anything more than a giant slow moving vehicle to get from A to B.


Also I wanna see orroborus now trololol
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Post Post #20126 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 8:15 am

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In post 20124, Maestro wrote:, but this is a game where you can build literally anything.
This is true but irrelevant. I can build a giant dick but that will neither make said dick aesthetically pleasing more functionally useful.

You can build anything, but that doesn't perfectly equate to you can build anything pretty that works well
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Post Post #20127 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 8:24 am

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With enough planning, yes that is exactly what it means

I guess for ScumCraft 8 I’ll be living inside a giant dick, functional and aesthetically arousing
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Post Post #20128 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 8:26 am

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I say your functional and aesthetically pleasing dickbase is ugly and a monstrosity.

Tear it down pls thx
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Post Post #20129 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 8:26 am

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Also please for the love of God build dickbase for sp8 M. I beg you to make that a reality
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Post Post #20130 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 8:28 am

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Functional as in "it is a working base/house" or as in "it is a working giant dick"?
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Post Post #20131 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 8:30 am

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In post 20130, Walkor wrote:Functional as in "it is a working base/house" or as in "it is a working giant dick"?
both can be done.
Art is cool.
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Post Post #20132 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 8:32 am

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Both must be accomplished to fulfill our goals
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Post Post #20133 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 8:45 am

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"our"?
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Post Post #20134 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 8:45 am

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Also, I'm not about making anatomically-correct stuff, so I'll do a dildo for you.
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Post Post #20135 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 9:11 am

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LOL

Whats wrong with ourathanos?
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Post Post #20136 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 9:12 am

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pictures?????
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Post Post #20137 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 9:22 am

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xox--------------xox 4 - 2
xox--------------xox 4 - 2
xox--------------xox 4 - 2
xooxxxxxxxxxxxoox 13 - 4
-xooooooooooooox- 2 - 13
-xooooooooooooox- 2 - 13
-xooooooooooooox- 2 - 13
--xooooooooooox--- 2 - 11
--xxoooooooooxx--- 4 - 9
-----xxxoooxxx----- 6 - 3
---------xxx--------- 3 - 0

36 wood, 72 balloon = 66%

do that concept across the full hull, you'll have a ton of wiggle room without even needing the masts, the mast balloons end up being bonuses, plus the hull balloons are effectively invisible, and you'll have 11 blocks wide 3 high in the inside of the ship which is pretty roomy.


Regarding the second ourathanos, no, i do not have pictures of it.
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Post Post #20138 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 9:24 am

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you could make it wider and the bottom flatter, it'll still come out the same, add a top deck to it, add masts to cover the top deckk, you'll have a ton of space on the ship
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Post Post #20139 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 9:26 am

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Spoiler: first ourathanos
In post 7387, Klazam wrote:Just shoot me a pm if you wanna see Ourathanos, Fortress of the End.

It's awesome. 1,340 blocks of Obsidian and well over 3,000 blocks of end stone went in it.

Here's some screenshots of it

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Think this, but much bigger. and i made it fly
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Post Post #20140 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 9:42 am

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In post 20137, Klazam wrote:xox--------------xox 4 - 2
xox--------------xox 4 - 2
xox--------------xox 4 - 2
xooxxxxxxxxxxxoox 13 - 4
-xooooooooooooox- 2 - 13
-xooooooooooooox- 2 - 13
-xooooooooooooox- 2 - 13
--xooooooooooox--- 2 - 11
--xxoooooooooxx--- 4 - 9
-----xxxoooxxx----- 6 - 3
---------xxx--------- 3 - 0

36 wood, 72 balloon = 66%

do that concept across the full hull, you'll have a ton of wiggle room without even needing the masts, the mast balloons end up being bonuses, plus the hull balloons are effectively invisible, and you'll have 11 blocks wide 3 high in the inside of the ship which is pretty roomy.


Regarding the second ourathanos, no, i do not have pictures of it.
oh my god that is a level of magnitude larger than i was planning LMFAO.

but hey whynot
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Post Post #20141 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 9:44 am

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In post 20139, Klazam wrote:
Spoiler: first ourathanos
In post 7387, Klazam wrote:Just shoot me a pm if you wanna see Ourathanos, Fortress of the End.

It's awesome. 1,340 blocks of Obsidian and well over 3,000 blocks of end stone went in it.

Here's some screenshots of it

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Think this, but much bigger. and i made it fly
That explains the lack of me remembering. I was in boot camp then.

also that sounds great. did it drop lava when it flew too?
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Post Post #20142 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 2:46 pm

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the second version had no lava
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Post Post #20143 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 3:30 pm

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Maru I can't say I would ever build a boat thingy. I would just build on land. I will say I can't effectively vote either side as I am not that educated on the subject.
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Post Post #20144 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 4:34 pm

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one last post and im completely done. Numbers as tested in SSP creative:

"vanilla" quark ship with exterior and interior complete untouched 372/1300 (28%)

quark ship with entire interior gutted so there is no more than 1 wooden block between empty interior hull and outside air, then filled ENTIRELY in with balloons and sails replaced with balloons: 570/1401 (43 percent)

What EXACTLY 40% looks like (before making the base USABLE, adding chests/equipment/bed/etc):
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passable vanilla-only bare base built on-deck on ship with 43 percent balloons before adding shit thats useful: (570/1352 42%)
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Post Post #20145 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 5:00 pm

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In post 20137, Klazam wrote:xox--------------xox 4 - 2
xox--------------xox 4 - 2
xox--------------xox 4 - 2
xooxxxxxxxxxxxoox 13 - 4
-xooooooooooooox- 2 - 13
-xooooooooooooox- 2 - 13
-xooooooooooooox- 2 - 13
--xooooooooooox--- 2 - 11
--xxoooooooooxx--- 4 - 9
-----xxxoooxxx----- 6 - 3
---------xxx--------- 3 - 0

36 wood, 72 balloon = 66%

do that concept across the full hull, you'll have a ton of wiggle room without even needing the masts, the mast balloons end up being bonuses, plus the hull balloons are effectively invisible, and you'll have 11 blocks wide 3 high in the inside of the ship which is pretty roomy.


Regarding the second ourathanos, no, i do not have pictures of it.
New information has arisen! Ship of this size is not feasible nor possible. Maximum block limit is 2048. Vanilla quark ship eats half of that at 1300 blocks!

Anything larger than a vanilla ship that is not solid balloons will need too many balloons in order to make it float that it cant assemble as a ship!

I shall quit all attempts at realism and fly my base around on a 20X20X1 platform with fences to maximize the number of usable 2048 blocks I have left over!


debate over.
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Post Post #20146 (ISO) » Wed May 30, 2018 5:09 pm

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820 balloon blocks for a full 2048 airship
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Post Post #20147 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2018 4:36 pm

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I can't get modded to connect. Just gets a disconnect, no error on my end. The only thing I see in logs is psosbily complaint about waila and inventory tweaks and such. Downloaded the thing from davsto's post, and set everything up in twitch app just like I did on my laptop thats working. Not sure why it's being cranky.

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[20:46:43] [Netty Client IO #0/INFO]: Attempting connection with missing mods [controlling, ctm, ingameinfoxml, inventorytweaks, jehc, jeiintegration, jeresources, moreoverlays, mousetweaks, reauth] at SERVER

Is all i get that resembles an error about connecting, same download that I made on my laptop though ...That worked today.
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Post Post #20148 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2018 4:52 pm

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@ETL/A: InvTweaks and the JEI mods should definitely exist on-server. It really helps with synchronizing inventories, from what I remember...

@aphix: All the rest of those are client-side mods; them not showing up on server is expected. There’s no way that’s your issue. What kind of settings are you using? What kind of hardware do you have?
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Post Post #20149 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2018 5:18 pm

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AMD FX-8300 with R7 370 and 16 gigs of ram. I set it to like 8 gigs of ram for minecraft, I tried added in davros' java settings but that was after the issue happened so it happened with and without them.

Yeah I though all those mods didn't seem to be the issue, but seems weird that it loads fine. Just insta disconnects from the server.
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