Product Placement Mafia (Game over!)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Lady Lamdadelta replaces T-bone.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Unvote

incase I have any votes that matter while I catch up.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Gamma town told I think lol

Or just not read told.

Idk I’m counting it as Town tell even though it probably isnt

My next fake claim will be doctor

I'm watching you O_O

pepsi is garbage

when i ask for a diet coke and servers are like IS PEPSI OKAY

i am fucking disgusted

+1

Penguin are you scum?
GammaGooey is rubbing me the wrong way for some reason I can't put my finger on.
Pine is scary...is that AI?
Vax is mildly pinging me.
I'm openly avoiding sorting Mutant this game for reasons.

Anyone like Mario?

Yo this string of posts feels fucking forced.

Like the feeling I get is "oh look everyone is posting I don't want to be a scummy lurker let me post half content half jokes".

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yo I actually get to catch up? Fuckin' Sick by.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Penguin. It's been a while since I played with you. Remind me how to read you?

I will be using a series of word to convey my thoughts and opinions. If you read these words in the order I write them (from left to right, unless I starting writing in Japanese), you should be able to do a reasonable job of reading me.

I may also do a few rainbow reads depending on my mood.

What if I'm illiterate?

Side note, hello everyone, I am here.

Awkward. FoS.

(when everyone actually gets in here and posts at least once I'll prob

stop shitposting

do things in addition to shitposting)

What was the purpose of this post?

Not better.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Penguin. It's been a while since I played with you. Remind me how to read you?

I will be using a series of word to convey my thoughts and opinions. If you read these words in the order I write them (from left to right, unless I starting writing in Japanese), you should be able to do a reasonable job of reading me.

I may also do a few rainbow reads depending on my mood.

What if I'm illiterate?

Side note, hello everyone, I am here.

Awkward. FoS.

Everyone's having fun and I'm the only one getting a FoS for it?

!

I take it back this is worse.

Awkward scum buddy interactions, maybe? Not sure.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Are you guys just PLing me for being a VI or do you care to add reasons?

mmmm

not sure.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yawn. Gamma really you're going to Scum Read me for pushing to get reads? Good luck with that. Are you just going to scum read me every game now?

Brian your empty opportunistic jump on is noted. I'm not sure which vote is worse Gamma Emerald or Brian. I'm leaning Brian because Gamma always seems scummy to me.

You can get reads but you seem self conscious about getting them, like you have to show you're doing stuff

lean town on this post. I'm concerned that Cheeky might not actually be scum, and if that's the case some of the Cheeky voters are probably scum, but this one isn't. This perfectly mirrors my emotions on the subject.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

brass...throw a Cheeky vote down.

I would like to see why firebringer says she is town, but I am going to be out for the next three hours and not many other people have been doing anything particularly scummy so... I'll go with it.

VOTE: Cheeky

See you all later. If the Mets game goes into extra innings, see you tomorrow.

?

bolded is confusing.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh..that worked. Cool.

Let's try again. T...throw down a Cheeky vote, not a NSG vote.

What if I told u.

I stole rc tell book for cheekytreeky and she Town told?

I would say...let's talk about this in a little bit. And...throw down a Cheeky vote, since that seems to be working right now.

Aww...bad.

yikes

Don't like this string.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Penguin-Cheeky interactions on page 8 make me feel better about Cheeky and worse about Penguin.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

People i'd vote (in no particular order):

Gamma
hyung
Firebringer
brassherald
Brian Skies


VOTE: brian skies

Fuck it's hard to ask these questions when it's so long ago but

you listed 5 names. Why would you vote each of these people at that time, and why did you choose to vote Brian over the others?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

shoot i forgot about this

This is probably a vig soft claim.

Crumb* rather than a soft claim.

what the fuck is this shit

[Lady Lambdadelta]

no seriously what the fuck is that shit is it a joke? aren't jokes supposed to be funny? is it serious? if so, why are you role specing?

fucking I'm only like a 6th of the way through this game and I feel nauseous.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Okay here is my reads list:

1. xRECKONERx - town lean

2. PenguinPower - scum

3. mutantdevle - null

4. Pine - null

5. Gammagooey - scum

6. Gamma Emerald - town
7. hyung - town

8. CheekyTeeky - town

9. T-Bone - scum

10. Firebringer - scum lean

11. ArcAngel9 - scum lean
12. Vecna - scum lean
13. brassherald - scum

14. hiplop - town

15. Brian Skies - town
16. Vaxkiller - town

17. northsidegal - town

I give up.

I fucking give up.

He puts himself as null on this list.

I have other issues, but fucking....

[Lady Lambdadelta]

serious discussion on him putting himself as Null on this list. Is it a tick? I think scum might be more likely to do that than town. Town wouldn't be so self conscious about marking themselves as town on their own reads list, right? Where as scum has motivation to do so?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

also, I feel like some of these reads are kind of just thrown at a wall? I don't know how he got an ArcAngel9 scum lean by that point, I don't even think she'd posted at all.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

^^ roughly 9 of those are real, the rest are random.

OH READING IS TECH

[Lady Lambdadelta]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS GAME

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Chances a Jester exists in this game anyone?

fucking hell

[Lady Lambdadelta]

is this a torture device? was I invited here to have people watch me react as the game slowly descends into madness?

Also Reck is super town anyone who thinks otherwise can fight me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Mutante. Your town reads have legit people they are voting for, but your voting for no one? You also have your own scum reads... and voting for no one? I mean wtf?

VOTE: Mutante

I think you guys are ignoring mutante because its too obvious.

worrying

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I am always down for a fight with you LLD
Let’s rumble

YOU WANNA SCRAP?

RAISE YOUR DUKES

QUEENSBURY RULES

[Lady Lambdadelta]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS GAME

Haha yep.

Read arc's iso when you take a quick break from straight reading
You'll continue to be mad

This has been a real bad game so far

should I read Arc ISO before or after I straight read

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You've effectively made my point, by the way. Thank you.

what point?

Mutante. Your town reads have legit people they are voting for, but your voting for no one? You also have your own scum reads... and voting for no one? I mean wtf?

VOTE: Mutante

I think you guys are ignoring mutante because its too obvious.

i think town loses a lot by lynching the townies who do outrageous things and ignoring the silently scummy players. i'm not sure if mutant can be classified as "townie" in that first part, but he's certainly "doing outrageous things". i prefer to focus on the second group.

Yo this person town AF. I still want my earlier question about the 5 reads answered, but this fucking post is just like so town.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

what the fuck is this ISO

[Lady Lambdadelta]

why hasn't this player been replaced

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I think Vax might be scum. Page 15 and 16 not good.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm taking a break to play Dota 2

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I wish LLD would finish catching up I for one enjoyed it but she just disappeared:(

sorry, was at board game night last night and am going to a Draft tonight, but... I can catch up some right now?

Lemme get on that.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

this feels like town

You mean this?

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

yes
why the hell are you voting me for that?

yes
why the hell are you voting me for that?

Of all his content that's a bs thing to TR him for.

it feels like a natural thought

This is giving me twitches. I don't know how to parse this, since I think Cheeky is just bad town, and I seem to recall thinking Gamma Emerald was town...But there is something seriously sketchy with this interaction. I think it's the "why are you SRing me for that?" Gamma looks worse from this. I'll need to read him in ISO when I finish this to make my conflicting feelings resolve.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

To expand on that. I realize scum arent going to come out and Scum claim, but we are looking for something.

Also, as far as where my head is with my mutant (no e!) read, I think he may be a 3rd party or serial killer. This really doesnt look like their town game, and you don't seem to think this is his scum game

.

I'd like to draw everyone's attention to this post. I would lynch Vax at literally any time. This post is awful.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i just got engaged yesterday and work is also killing me. ill lurk for a bit more.


official votecount 1.2:
nothing changed since votecount 1.1
unkept tripod is still set to be lynched.
you have a little under 5 hours remaining.

You're fucking useless.

They give you a role that we need since we have limited vote..... ugh.

You're fucking useless I'd be happy to watch you die any time and pass the VC role onto someone who will do something with it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

[quote="In post 438]

I quoted your original post for reference. When I read the line "For reference, I also think players as a whole, do very few things that betray them as scum." I was like: Shit.
And all of my failures came flashing back to me. THen I started 2nd guessing my reads thus far.

I read it as, we are all just randomly voting for people, perhaps we will get lucky.

So I guess I got a little snarky and posted that, when I probably should have said something like: If people don't betray themselves as scum, then who do we vote for?

It's okay. What I mean is that people that are scum aren't screaming that they are scum in every post. I think this is a sort of pitfall people do to themselves. The have a scumread on someone, and from that point on they think that literally everything they say is scum. They do an ISO dive and see things in every post that confirms them as scum.

And we're probably all guilty of this. I know I can be, especially if I'm locked in on someone. So my comment is not about "let's lynch randomly" it's about "not every post matters." Some posts do, but not every post.

I'm not trying to persuade you that mutant is town. I don't know that he is, and I don't have a strong feeling either way. I'm saying that of all his posts, I think so far almost none of them have to do with his alignment at the moment. And of the one post that might, I could see it as either way.

I'm on the same side as Town!Vax so don't take things that I say as an attack. You wanted discussion and I tried to give it to you.

Knowing in advance there is a T-Bone wagon, I can't imagine why it happened /sarcasm

Like I know he's town because it's my slot, and I'm still reading this thinking "What the fuck are you even talking about?"

[Lady Lambdadelta]

is it studded with diamonds all along the black shaft?

Is it a Laser-Raptor?

Oh wait, those were obviously real, nm

Anyone who thinks I was too harsh calling him useless when he posted about getting engaged can read his next 3 posts on the next page and come to terms with it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

My Pad Thai just got here, and it's delicious and spicy

[Lady Lambdadelta]

VOTE: Tbone

Interesting response.

VOTE: Pine

What is this?

@Cheeky, explain what in that interaction between FB and Pine made you switch here?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why

Die, Pokémans

R u reaction testing me or still just trolling

Ummm a little of both? I was determined to not take this seriously, but I couldn't help but wonder 'I wonder what reactions this will net me.'

Glad I could mess up that test.

Also for some reason people are doing that all the time to me for no adequate reason (talking about pcoting me and saying “Pokémon”


Tell me when ur serious like to do some discuss sessions

More twitching, but honestly I can't tell if it's just because I dislike the posting, or if he's really scum. I'm trying not to just lynch things I hate.

It's not easy. Especially in this game, apparently.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Go away bonehead.

I mean...the irony is stark. Why is he a bonehead?

What is the purpose of this question?

What is the purpose of this question?

Go away bonehead.

I mean...the irony is stark. Why is he a bonehead?

What is the purpose of this question?

What is the purpose of this question?

What is the purpose of this question!

Go away bonehead.

I mean...the irony is stark. Why is he a bonehead?

What is the purpose of this question?

What is the purpose of this question?

What is the purpose of this question!

I understand the purpose of this question

tfw you no longer feel like a shitposter

Nothing to add here, but

fuck all of you for making me read this

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why the Pine naked vote then?

And, yes, I am trying to do something. My absence over the weekend stifled it, I think, but the fact that the game state hasn't move much (beyond shitposting) means I might still get it. So, T-Bone naked vote explained. Now, Pine-vote.

Also, I have no reason to move my vote at the moment. I'm not waiting on a reason to back it up...I'm waiting on a reason to move it.

Why are you not interested in the Vax naked vote?

Here's what I've done:

Vax vote > Tbone vote > Pine vote.

Penguin you're not this dumb I think you can work out what I'm doing. Pine vote was already explained a couple of posts ago when I was trying to get Reck to join me.

What?

You didn't explain shit!

Being mysterious is not a replacement for having an actual

personality

motivation!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don’t understand why ur not voting me cheeky when I’m leading wagon and u said I’m scum and hat hasn’t changed...

Soooooo

Why not me?

I don’t think you can say that I’m not a useful place for ur vote so not getting why ur deliberately avoiding wagon on me while asking me weird questions like “when will you be townie?”

And then every now and again he brings me back.

I don't know where to place you.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

VOTE: Vaxkiller

VOTE: Vaxkiller

explain? i thought his whole thought process with regards to mutant was towny, didn't ping me as seeming like scum pushing for a mislynch.

I'll answer this later. Yep this is town NSG.

Well you said you would explain it later.

Goddamnit

VOTE: Cheeky

Real!vote

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

This feels like either Pine got baited or they're both scum trying to make this wagon happen.

Cheeky just has so much equity as being a town mislynch right now, it's insane. So many people I feel bad about push votes on them randomly and it's like, at least

SOME

of them have to be scum, right?

No way this is a bus, doesn't feel right. I think Cheeky's gotta be mislynch bait.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You legitimately don't react to votes. I use my votes differently to most and when I'm ready to lynch I'll let you know. I'm trying to create something out of nothing here, but that doesn't mean I don't think you're scum just because my vote isn't on you. Tbh I'm nullish on you and you generate content without me pushing you so you can wait.

Yeah, move me from "pretty sure" to "confident". Cheeky is town. They're bad, I don't think they've accomplished anything positive in this game so far from what I've read, but this is a town post.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

brb gotta keep eating my food and also clean something quickly.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

But the sample role PM's include SK and Survivor. So I don't get where any of these numbers come from.

^This is scum

SK-hunting is a classic scumslip

Would have been nice if you had noticed this the first time it was posted. See: What I pointed out.

That said, I agree!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Aight no more. Can't do no more right now my brain is burning and I just wanna relax.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I have a WoD RPG to run today, but once that concludes, I will be resuming my catchup.

In the meantime, I also want some answers from Pine regarding his reads, because they seem very pell mell. Basically, Pine: You gave a list of names in 1821. I want to know a little bit about each one and where your head is at wrt them, and I want some evidence in the form of posts and or interactions that supports how you came to these conclusions.

Essentially, I want to see your mental concept here. I need to see the progression of your thought.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I am kind of in the opinion that unless lurkers start posting content or replacements happen, there’s not really much that’s going on.

I second this sentiment.

I don't, if only because I think that my catchup is dredging up some lost information from the wastes of shitpost land, and shining a spotlight on actually scummy people.

I think that I'm the breath of fresh air this game needed, and I won't let people just resign to apathy while I'm still fighting..

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I have a WoD RPG to run today, but once that concludes, I will be resuming my catchup.

In the meantime, I also want some answers from Pine regarding his reads, because they seem very pell mell. Basically, Pine: You gave a list of names in 1821. I want to know a little bit about each one and where your head is at wrt them, and I want some evidence in the form of posts and or interactions that supports how you came to these conclusions.

Essentially, I want to see your mental concept here. I need to see the progression of your thought.

I appreciate this desire, but the level of work involved in giving detailed reads on virtually every player in a large with citations and examples is not in the cards today. I have some other on-site obligations that I've been postponing, followed by housework, dinner, and date night with the very pregnant Lady Pine. Pinecone is due in 18 days!

I'm not begging off entirely, but it's not happening rn. Ask me again tomorrow.

PE: Mostly gut. Lately I've been developing a feel for Fire that I hope is verging on the ability to soulread him. Regardless, he's not the D1 lynch imo.

Take your time and congratulations, of course. This all said, if this game drags too long, we'll end up straight fucked.

So please, take your time, no pressure, but if you can't do this in some amount of reasonable time, perhaps consider your life is too busy to continue?

But yeah, sorry about that.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

gonna do some more catchup today probably

[Lady Lambdadelta]

oh hey this is another person I've seen nothing from. we're still looking only at aa9 though? cool

...

are you NOT READING?

This is literally indefensible.

I replaced in about a week ago, 6 days and change, and I already have

MORE POSTS THAN YOU HAVE IN THIS ENTIRE GAME

AND YOU HAVE BEEN HERE THE WHOLE FUCKING TIME.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

It would have been literally impossible for you to "see nothing from me".

This is a scumclaim.

Vote: Hyung

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'll do more catchup later but we're lynching this today.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

wow you seem like a pleasant person to be around

Dodging the issue, attempting to discredit my valid point via an emotional appeal

yup

this ticks all the boxes, they die today.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

looking at your iso well now I see stuff. but all of it's so focused on the first few pages and pretty much nothing besides this is in the moment. apparently you replaced in after I was gone for a bit so I guess I'll somewhat take back what I said and read into it later

no need for the attitude though. that's the main thing that bugs me because i don't think anything would genuinely warrant such an over the top response.

THIS IS SO FUCKING FAKE.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

First of all, I've had interactions with people and their current postings in my ISO, so that's a lie.

On top of that, this game is in a state of major apathy. and what I've been doing is attempting to kick it out of that and make people focus on the entire game and vote with sense.

Before I came in, people were just going to lynch AA9. After I started doing things and asking questions about why aa9 wasn't replaced, people started looking elsewhere. I won't take full credit, but it's in no small part to my unvote and content that we are even still playing this day and considering a lynch.

Which makes your critique inconsistent and you would know this if you'd actually read anything. Given that you ltierally mentioned the aa9 wagon in the same breath as me not posting, which we can now see is quite easily provably a false, and you're backpedaling/

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD, stop

Hyung is a bit of a troll, and I'd be happy to PL them with you. They'd be a really solid policy vig, too.

But there is absolutely no chance of rounding up a lynch there with two days left.

Vote Vax with me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD, stop

Hyung is a bit of a troll, and I'd be happy to PL them with you. They'd be a really solid policy vig, too.

But there is absolutely no chance of rounding up a lynch there with two days left.

Vote Vax with me.

You don't get to complain about my choice.

You don't get to, when you almost lynched aa9 and fucking sunk this game into the depths of apathy.

I just caught scum for you. Does this look like this player is trolling to you? Are you going to defend them?

Because they're dying today. And you can either stand with me,

or I'll go through you

.

Your choice.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD, stop

Hyung is a bit of a troll, and I'd be happy to PL them with you. They'd be a really solid policy vig, too.

But there is absolutely no chance of rounding up a lynch there with two days left.

Vote Vax with me.

You don't get to complain about my choice.

You don't get to, when you almost lynched aa9 and fucking sunk this game into the depths of apathy.

I just caught scum for you. Does this look like this player is trolling to you? Are you going to defend them?

Because they're dying today. And you can either stand with me,

or I'll go through you

.

Your choice.

Are you reading the same game as I am? I'm the reason the AA9 wagon stopped, not a contributor to it.

There's two days left and the game is in apathy. Starting a brand new wagon on someone I don't actually agree is scummy doesn't make sense.

You were also a main contributor to that wagon prior to that, which was my point.

How is this person not scummy? This person is LITERALLY telling you "I'm not joking, I genuinely was saying what I was saying" and you look at their posts and you see the scum-sided motivation and the lies and you're telling me "oh nah it's just a policy lynch"?

For real?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

when you almost lynched aa9 and fucking sunk this game into the depths of apathy.

l m a o

VOTE: lld

player plays catch up while apparently sticking to read only the first 20 pages.

player comes back in now to say they'll continue with the catch up later.

player accidentally betrays in fit of fake rage that they

actually know and have been caught up on what's been currently going on this whole time.

hey guys. guess what. it's a scum claim

I HAVE BEEN HERE LESS THAN A WEEK YOU FUCKING SCUMBAG.

AND THE GAME WAS 64 PAGES LONG WHEN I REPLACED IN.

THAT MEANS I GOT A THIRD OF THE GAME FUCKING DONE WHILE YOU SAT ON YOUR HANDS AND DID NOTHING WHILE THE GAME WAS IN APATHY.

THAT'S SO FUCKNIG DAMNING

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Pine I swear to god if you don't lynch this.

I fucking swear to god.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

When you say things like "This got me to actually read the aa9 ISO" that means that prior to that you were ok with the apathy lynch on aa9. Am I wrong?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

also, vanity wagon?

You don't get to call this shit a vanity wagon. Not when I had to replace into this fucking game and revive it from the brink of fucking death.

Vax is scummy, and I

literally called Vax scummy in my catchup before you even voted for them, if I recall correctly

but Hyung is 100% scum and the fact you will not lynch them makes me think exceedingly poor things about you, and have concerns about Vax.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

when you almost lynched aa9 and fucking sunk this game into the depths of apathy.

l m a o

VOTE: lld

player plays catch up while apparently sticking to read only the first 20 pages.

player comes back in now to say they'll continue with the catch up later.

player accidentally betrays in fit of fake rage that they

actually know and have been caught up on what's been currently going on this whole time.

hey guys. guess what. it's a scum claim

I HAVE BEEN HERE LESS THAN A WEEK YOU FUCKING SCUMBAG.

AND THE GAME WAS 64 PAGES LONG WHEN I REPLACED IN.

THAT MEANS I GOT A THIRD OF THE GAME FUCKING DONE WHILE YOU SAT ON YOUR HANDS AND DID NOTHING WHILE THE GAME WAS IN APATHY.

THAT'S SO FUCKNIG DAMNING

like this isn't even a refute lmao it's just dodging the point entirely

what

[Lady Lambdadelta]

When you say things like "This got me to actually read the aa9 ISO" that means that prior to that you were ok with the apathy lynch on aa9. Am I wrong?

First of all, a lack of interest is not an expression of support.

Second, I credited you with making me sit up and pay attention.

Third, as soon as I saw the mounting momentum towards an apathy lynch, I did my homework and took action, becoming a crusader against it.

So please.

Tell me more about how the AA9 wagon is in any way my fault.

PE: I will be happy to wagon Hyung with you D2. My SOLE objection is that we have no chance of successfully doing so by day end.

Give me 24 hours.

Vote him with me and give me 24 fucking hours.

and if we can't do it, I'll vote Vax. I obviously prefer a lynch over no lynch, and we have 48 hours right? Let's spend 24 trying to get the obvious scum lynched and if really actually no one will lynch this fucker, then I'll vote with you on my second choice.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

My point, H, is that while this game drowned in apathy you did nothing.

You popped in.

You asked for vote counts to waste them.

You contributed nothing.

And you let the game sink into the swamp.

And now that someone is pumping it back up, you need to discredit them, and when that didn't work and I didn't back down you felt pot committed to go in on me.

And that's fine, you'll die for it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm fucking fired up, so I dunno if I hate it so much as it frustrates me watching people stuck in the tar.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I hate this game

i was considering making a sanity posse of like you reck me vax brian skies and northside

so if you want to wrangle any of those people into something i'll prob support it

hyung and lld both seem like they're overreacting to each others bullshit but i don't think lld's catchup was anything special she wouldn't do as either alignment and hyung's play isn't anything special either

i'll prob come back and reread them a bit tonight tho

Fuck you and fuck your "both sides are over-reacting" bullshit.

Catching up is something I would do as either alignment, but to restart this game and be as active and present and focused on not allowing it to die as I have been?

Fucking this could have just been over, if you remember. I could have just let AA9 be lynched when I replaced it. It was my unvote that UT decided to count as retroactively applied from the replace in slot to allow me the chance to play.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i do think hyung's stupid early game is more likely town-motivated antagonistic garbage than scum-motivated garbage though thinking about it

but like still rereading later and not now

and fucking, you're sitting here willing to lynch fucking ARC ANGEL FUCKING NINE.

FOR "doing nothing" BUT YOU AREN'T WILLING TO LYNCH SOMEONE WITH LESS POSTS THAN ME AND THEY'VE BEEN IN THE GAME THE ENTIRE TIME AND I'VE BEEN HERE 6 DAYS?

AND YET THIS PLAYER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR NEARLY ALL OUR VOTECOUNTS GOING MISSING?

AND HAS DONE NOTHING TO ATTEMPT TO HELP THE TOWN IN SCUMHUNTING OR APATHY REMOVAL?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

have fun being mad lld

...

[Lady Lambdadelta]

you're a fucking jerk, Gamma.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I have so many other things I'd like to call you or say to you right now and they'd all be true, but more than anything, I want you to know that you're the fucking problem this game.

No one else, you don't get to tell other people they're the reason why we all hate this game.

It's you. You're the fucking problem.

Because you take people who are invested, who are trying, who are fucking fighting and give a shit.

And you say shit like that.

You know I have a fucking anger issue and I express myself vehemently in mafia. You also know and don't fucking pretend you fucking don't because I know you do, that I really hate how much I fucking have to care and how much I put in and get angry about.

and you're still gonna say shit like "have fun being mad". Like of course it isn't fun to feel mad, but you don't give a shit.

So fine, you wanna demoralize me? Whatever, you get your wish. I don't care anymore. I just want to fucking give up and cry.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

you're a fucking jerk, Gamma.

yep

not gonna interact with ya in a kind and thoughtful way if your response to an offhand thought is ALL CAPS HOW DARE YOU THINK THIS

sorry friend

don't call me friend, you patronizing ahole.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

No LLD can be useful. LLD if you could finish catching up and post a summary of your reads that would help a lot with deadline looming.

Yeah, I'll just give the cliffs notes of the rest of the game and my feelings instead of quoting everything, I guess.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

you know what nah I'm just going to ignore Mr. Shiny and vote real scum
VOTE: CheekyTeeky

Given I'm certain Cheeky is town I don't like this vote. He keeps coming back to it, and it feels like the "Designated mislynch" scum were going for for the first 30 pages or so.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Scum team: arcangel cheeky brian

hahahahahahhahahahahahhahaha

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i missed your simul-post with me before posting that btw alisae

I'm just sayin' that hyung being an stubborn asshole doesn't necessarily make him scum. if you think of it from the perspective of an asshole, it makes sense imo - he's already found scum, he wants to get on with the game and actually get on with lynching scum and winning the game, and so he's trying to force everyone to do what he wants. I wouldn't really call it town-motivated either b/c it's a lot more self-motivated than actually trying to get the town to win the game, but it can at least plausibly come from town.

like i mentioned majiffy in survivormeet earlier, here's a post of him being a stubborn wrong dickhole as town

Spoiler: Majiffy being a dickhole not related to this game

In post 939, Kmd4390 wrote:
"It's RVS on Day 3" doesn't really give me a feel for where people's heads are as far as reads.

Probably because people don't really have reads, the game is stuck in a rut, and it really is barely different from RVS.

Happens commonly when scum get knocked off early in the game, town has nowhere to go from there and stumbles in the dark.

In post 939, Kmd4390 wrote:
And Klick is kind of right that your vote was bullshit or at least the reason you gave at the time. "Try harding" in a game where everyone is being lazy? Really?

Yes and I stand by it. Also I like the bolded, considering I never gave another reason and this sounds like a hedge.

In post 939, Kmd4390 wrote:
Vote Majiffy

I guess I can quit diggin', I hit gold.

we literally lynched him because he wouldn't do anything except bitch about kmd (who was also town) and then eventually self-vote. He did this as a

tracker

too btw. when we had 2 of the 4 scum dead by day 2.
dickholeism transcends alignment
-------------------------------------
I think I have a pretty good summary of why I personally think cheeky is scum in my iso (should be basically the only lengthy posts I have in there, pretty recent), but if you want a recap of some of it I'll do it after I grab some lunch.

This feels very strange for someone who would later on in the day go on to try and force the AA9 wagon through.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

VOTE: T-Bone
w/e we can work on lynching nsg tomorrow

of all the T-Bone votes so far, this one looks the worst

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Fine grumpy.

VOTE: Gemerald

I'm 100% on this. Let's go.

I call your bluff. You will explain why your certainty on me is suddenly so high.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Reck flash wagon is fucking weird. Like, I don't scum read anyone on the wagon (Alisae, Pine, Cheeky, Fire, Brian) but I also hard townread Reck and I don't think that happens to reck as town without there being one scum there.

If Reck is scum, somehow, Gammagooey is too btw, for his comments on that wagon.

But frankly they're probably both town which means I'm wrong on one of the 5 listed there. We'll see.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

ok, read list time

Town:
Reck, Pine, Gammagooey, Cheeky, Firebringer, Alisae, Brian
Uncertain:
Hiplop, AA9, NSG
Scum (would lynch any of):
Vaxkiller, Hyung, Mutant, Vecna, Penguin, Gamma Emerald

[Lady Lambdadelta]

idunno her catchup seems really natural :/

She is Town, but her reads suck.
Let’s remove her cause scum surely isnt

The fuck is this shit.

Can you fuck off and vote scum with me? Hyung is scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Screw it:
VOTE: Vaxkiller

I can get on board with this read of urs LLD.

I have a promise with Pine.

If in... how long is it now? like 16 hours?

If in 16 hours we don't have the traction for Hyung, I'll cede to him and lynch Vax instead.

I'm 1000000% confident on Hyung and want his tasty tasty blood in my mouth but I'm p. confident on Vax too, so.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Reck, Pine, Gammagooey, Cheeky, Firebringer, Alisae, Brian

This is um basically my townbloc including NSG and Vecna.

LLD why do you FoS Vecna?

gut, mixed with a general dislike for his headstate as I perceive it. I think he's lurking scum and what little content he has done I think is not townie.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Really because everytime I've seen wolf!Vecna it was
not very lurky and very powerwolfy

never played with the dude before but I think he's scum. He's not high on my list of desired targets today, I have stronger scum reads (all of GammaE, Vax, Hyung are higher for certain).

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I have so many other things I'd like to call you or say to you right now and they'd all be true, but more than anything, I want you to know that you're the fucking problem this game.

No one else, you don't get to tell other people they're the reason why we all hate this game.

It's you. You're the fucking problem.

Because you take people who are invested, who are trying, who are fucking fighting and give a shit.

And you say shit like that.

You know I have a fucking anger issue and I express myself vehemently in mafia. You also know and don't fucking pretend you fucking don't because I know you do, that I really hate how much I fucking have to care and how much I put in and get angry about.

and you're still gonna say shit like "have fun being mad". Like of course it isn't fun to feel mad, but you don't give a shit.

So fine, you wanna demoralize me? Whatever, you get your wish. I don't care anymore. I just want to fucking give up and cry.

I like how YOU get to yell at people all you want and jsut blame it on your anger issues, but when people give you shit back, you take offense.

Oh wait. I don't like that.

I'm gonna say this once, for the benefit of everyone, and then I'm not getting into this again.

I do my very vest to contain my anger and through this game I've not insulted or taken personal shots at anyone. I have put things in all caps because I get frustrated and angry, but I have been making a concerted effort not to do the other.

And when people take that effort and stick it in my face because they don't like caps, it fucking hurts.

So don't try to tell me I'm a hypocrite when I'm trying actively not to insult or hurt people and other people don't seem to have that problem.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Screw it:
VOTE: Vaxkiller

I can get on board with this read of urs LLD.

Do you even know why Pine and LLD are voting me? They just laugh when I ask. All I've seen from Pine for days is "Lets lynch Vaxkiller" for fucking days. You say something enough and people will believe it.

I have made post after post in my catch up pointing to posts you have made to illustrate why I think you are scummy.

Also I'm not even

voting for you currently

.

This attempt at discrediting my points by putting both Pine and I in the same sentence and then just saying "all I've seen from Pine" and ignoring my statements is noted and heard.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@lld can you tell me why you think hyung is scum bc it'd make me way more comfortable leaving my vote there instead of doing the thing where i go chase other wagons

absolutely, give me a moment to type something up?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

idunno her catchup seems really natural :/

LLD's been playing mafia for a long time and especially when just catching up I don't see why she wouldn't just post her legit thoughts for the most part as scum

is there anything in the catchup that you think scum wouldn't also think/post about?

as both alignments I am required to catch up and provide content to not be lynched in a game like this

however, only as one alignment do I hold an obligation to attempt to revitalize the town in any manner.

I've been a huge advocate for allowing Towns to drown in their own apathy as scum for

years

.

So I'm just curious why you think that as scum I would do what I did instead of doing a rapid catch up that focuses on a few easy key points and take the low road, get a quick and easy lynch and move forward from there?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i am paranoid of LLD because she almost pulled the wool over my eyes in team mafia and of anyone she knows how to butter me up

but i dont want to chase that paranoid tangent right now because it's not yet time for elmo gifs

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I can't look at that picture and not laugh, ffs.

You reminded me it existed.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I do my very vest to contain my anger and through this game I've not insulted or taken personal shots at anyone. I have put things in all caps because I get frustrated and angry, but I have been making a concerted effort not to do the other.

You called gammagoey an asshole.

Unless you think asshole is a term of endearment you have insulted people.

I called him an ahole because he was a jerk, and then had the gall to say "Sorry friend" to me, which is the most patronizing bullshit and it fucking hurt, so yeah I kinda sucked at holding it back there.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@LLD- because taking the high road sets you up way, way better for the future and I think 80+% of all good scum players that don't think they're fucked from who they replaced would take that for townpoints over taking a quick lynch, that if town, will make them look horrific and likely get them lynched in the next couple days

like what are you suggesting you do exactly instead as scum, just not bother catching up at all for a week straight? Hammer Arc after I got you to read her iso? Like town-you is pretty unlikely to do either of those things I think and both reck and I have played with you before and would think it's weird for you to do it I think.

Gamma, you don't understand.

Arc was hammered when I replaced in.

UT retroactively counted my unvote to put Arc at 8. I didn't NEED to vote Arc... she was already dead, he just did me a favour more or less.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm suggesting what I told you I would have done as scum here Gamma.

I'd have cherry picked some interesting interactions that look awful, come down hard on Cheeky, really played up wanting to lynch some of the most optically bad players as opposed to the oens I found actually scummy, and gotten an easy town lynch.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

gonna get some food but before I sleep tonight I'm going to write two posts. one on hyung and one on vax

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@LLD- because taking the high road sets you up way, way better for the future and I think 80+% of all good scum players that don't think they're fucked from who they replaced would take that for townpoints over taking a quick lynch, that if town, will make them look horrific and likely get them lynched in the next couple days

like what are you suggesting you do exactly instead as scum, just not bother catching up at all for a week straight? Hammer Arc after I got you to read her iso? Like town-you is pretty unlikely to do either of those things I think and both reck and I have played with you before and would think it's weird for you to do it I think.

Gamma, you don't understand.

Arc was hammered when I replaced in.

UT retroactively counted my unvote to put Arc at 8. I didn't NEED to vote Arc... she was already dead, he just did me a favour more or less.

so then what's your argument for you-town behaving differently than you-scum there

you unvoted after you knew there was a hammer as town because you predicted that UT would ignore a hammer b/c of it and let the game continue? You didn't realize that there was a hammer and unvoted as town but you wouldn't have as scum?

like the way I see it you unvote or at least try to unvote there regardless of your alignment so you can catch up on the game and frankly expecting anyone to think you're town for that seems kind of mad to me.

My argument is that scum me would have skimmed the game to get situational awareness before making a move. Why would I have to pop in and post ANYTHING there, why not delay my coming into the game until AA is dead and then enter day 2?

Further, what town me does that scum me doesn't is focus on the macro state of the game. Scum-me would be worried about optics, about how I'm being perceived and how I individually am performing.

Town-me cares more about the town getting off the rutted path they are on and fixing that.

My behaviour should suggest the later to you, and not the former. If you think that it's more the former, explain and give examples?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

but no seriously, FOOD NOW.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

but no seriously, FOOD NOW.

dota first

you wanna play dota? lmao

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@lld can you tell me why you think hyung is scum bc it'd make me way more comfortable leaving my vote there instead of doing the thing where i go chase other wagons

@lld please

it's coming before I sleep tonight, I promise. I mentioned it earlier, but right now I need a break

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Tbone I'm a reaction tester/intent reader. I find it hard to get good reads when I'm disconnected. Also each time I let the thread breathe it slows down to an unproductive level. I don't see the harm in trying to generate real game content. I also don't get why you find the need to take a teaching stance with me. As you can tell I'm far from insecure and I feel I'm a pretty effective town player, it just feels like you're trying to shut me up and discredit me each time we interact and I don't see the town intent in going about it the way you are. If you want me to stfu then just tell me to stfu or generate discussion elsewhere.

this really comes across as scum throwing up walls preemptively. i didn't see anything from tbone that could cause such an over the top reaction. it's way more flustered than believable.

vote: cheeky

i would vote cheeky in this post if i wasn't already voting them

Hyung is scum for a few reasons

First, their Cheeky stance. They were one of the people who stayed on Cheeky basically the whole time, up until basically the most recent events. Their original opening post on Cheeky showed some measure of attempting to sort the slot, but when examining that attempt it doesn't parse as actually attempting to find scum, but rather feels more like Hyung is looking for an easy mislynch and Cheeky fit the bill.

This is backed up by evidence of how hyung treats the Cheeky wagon and the game for the rest of the time. Random status quo maintaining posts meant to avoid prods and check in and keep Cheeky alive as the defacto mislynch, without any attempts to sort other players. The only real counter example is when Hyung calls {Mutant, Pine, Hiplop} all scum, but says he "has no proof to back it up". It's the kind of line that if the player was performing with more investment might be somethign with actual weight behind it that someone could hold them to, but given that Hyung was mostly a non-presence I don't think it mitigates the issues at all, rather I think it just is an example of throwing somehting at a wall and seeing what sticks. Testing the waters, if you will.

Then, we have Hyung's use of the votecount mechanic. It is easy to dismiss this as simply anti-town and misguided in an attempt to end the day early out of apathy, but the fact you need to consider is this player was

actively contributing to this apathy by not posting and not interacting

and yet they decide to do this? It doesn't feel "Trolly" and I reject assertions that it is "dumb, not scum". I think it is the kind of move scum makes in hyungs position and hopes that everyone is too demoralized and no one thinks scum would do something so ballsy. It actively hurt us and it IS scummy.

Finally, we have Hyung's interactions with me. His initial post was exactly the kind of post we talked about in part one. It accomplishes 3 goals:

1) it dodges the prod timer, so the player doesn't look excessively inactive like the other inactives in the game
2) it keeps the game in apathy because it tacitly approves people calling the game "Shit" and just giving up
3) it looks like it provides some manner of opinion or content when really it does nothing of the sort.

So I call this player on it, and vote them. The reasons for my vote are the above, but also, the manner in which Hyung attempted to defend themselves against my vote, pressure and accusations were very much resembling scrambling scum. What's more, when pushed into the corner and without any way to dodge or lurk, since I just shined a giant fucking spotlight in his face, Hyung did what I would expect scum to do there. Vote me back, make a scene and hope people write it off as two players having a bad interactions, and either ignore us both or damn us both.

Then he'd just go back to lurking while everyone else around him tries to find a compromise lynch.

The fact of the matter is that I think Hyungs reads are bad and scummy, his behaviour is bad and scummy and his reactions and tone are bad and scummy.

I'm very confident this person flips scum. This is my case on them, Reck.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

welp, ignore those quotes. I was quoting posts to look at them to write this and I guess I multiquoted some shit by accident. Apologies.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I was gonna do Vax's tonight as well, but honestly, I'm exhausted. Tomorrow morning when I wake is a better idea.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

VOTE: Vecna

Willing to compromise

No compromise.

IT'S MY BIRTHDAY NO COMPROMISE WE LYNCH SCUM

[Lady Lambdadelta]

THE MOST ADORABLE FIREBIRD ON THE LEFT DEMANDS HYUNG BLOOD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: NSG

I also don't agree the other wagons aren't scum, Pine. It wasn't a dueling thing, it was an end of day thing.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And forcing a potential doctor to claim just for the end result to be the same makes no sense.

The best we can do, NSG, if you really are town, is you can give us your reads, and we can consider them post mortem.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And I know how that feels, because like, often people won't listen to dead people, so just giving a list won't work.

If you want to impact this game, spend some time, chew on it, and write some posts. Give us why you think certain ways, where your thought progressions are, so we can actively consider them.

All of this is being written as if you were town ftr. I think it's very likely you're scum, with Pine's claim, but it serves us better to assume you're town and advise you before we lynch you.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

With that in mind

Unvote

[Lady Lambdadelta]

No need to rush. If NSG wants to make content, let's allow them that opportunity.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And forcing a potential doctor to claim just for the end result to be the same makes no sense.

The best we can do, NSG, if you really are town, is you can give us your reads, and we can consider them post mortem.

What chances are high catching a scum here

Lynch the one who got role-blocked with no kill (A good Chance that this person could be scum)
Lynch someone else (A chance is completely random)

What do you think is best? And I support reck's argument. If NSG telling a lie, we are only loosing a VT which is no big deal in large theme game.

And I have another reason too. I believe that this game may not have Vanilla Townies.

do you know what "post mortem" means?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like you're preaching to a choir that doesn't need to be preached to right now and that scares me. I'm already on board with lynching this person, I just am giving them due time to have their last rites.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@mollie:

d1 was just a lot of apathy until a flashwagon happened on vecna end of day
obviously, vecna flipped scum
come d2, there was no kill, pine claimed to block nsg, nsg claimed vt, brian claimed 1-shot bulletproof

tldr is we have to lynch nsg because we can't let a potential scumkill get blocked and not test it, but there's a slight possibility skies ate the shot with his bp vest if the claim is true (or some other combination of things happened)

hey now

when I replaced in there was a lot of activity!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD where are you at with your Hyung read?

Nothing has changed. Still think they are scum, I don't agree the Vecna flash wagon absolves him.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

pine's not a lightning rod

let's not talk about the possibility of pine being a lightning rod b/c it's dumb

opinions on penguin or north or lld/t-bone would be great

I need LLD. She's the reason I sub in.

huh?

I've been a bit busy the past few days, why do you need me?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, gonna refocus.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

UNVOTE: mutant
No longer feel good about this.

LLD, I need you so I can read you.

Have you bothered to read any of my posting from yesterday?

As for now, Gamma, why are we kicking the can down the road regarding NSG?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And if we're really going to do that, why aren't we lynching either Hyung or Vaxkiller?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

These are probably questions I could infer by reading the pages I missed but I'm being extraordinarily lazy right now because all I wanna do is play board games and not think about mafia, but I kinda have to think about mafia.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Um.
Because math?

Like mutants already lynched. Vax and hyung both look at least townier than nsg but the lynch is already hammered here

... oh

I didn't realize you'd already lynched someone.

Well, then.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

not up to doing this tonight, will pop in before lfight tomorrow.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm going to ACen V/LA all weekend

[Lady Lambdadelta]

will be home soon, flight in a few hours

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I've been prodded, sorry I thought the game was on pause for the most part while we determined the continue/abandon of this game.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: NSG

This needs to happen, especially since the counter wagon on Reck is happening and I'm still pretty fucking sure Reck is town.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: NSG

This needs to happen, especially since the counter wagon on Reck is happening and I'm still pretty fucking sure Reck is town.

I'll ask you the same thing that I'm GOING to ask NSG.

If you think Reck is a doc, why did he not protect Pine?

I honestly don't know, but there could be a million reasons.

Odd-Night he doesn't want to claim.

He did but he was redirected (did he claim not to target Pine?)

Other things he knows role wise that may have led him to doctor there.

Limited shots.

Who knows, who cares.

I town read reck on play and I don't need anything else.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I am telling you, Alisae, Reck is town.

You think I'm conf. town right?

Then listen to me. Reck is a fucking mislead.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

however N1 I protected Gammagooey and there was no kill
I protected him again N2 because I'm an idiot and forgot about the Pine claim when I sent in my action

bleh.

See on one hand it's hard to believe Reck would forget when he harped so heavily on the NSG lynch because of the pine claim.

On the otherhand in what world does he claim this doctor nonsense if he wants to live.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like where is the scum motivation in that admission?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

however N1 I protected Gammagooey and there was no kill
I protected him again N2 because I'm an idiot and forgot about the Pine claim when I sent in my action

bleh.

See on one hand it's hard to believe Reck would forget when he harped so heavily on the NSG lynch because of the pine claim.

On the otherhand in what world does he claim this doctor nonsense if he wants to live.

I feel like you're looking at the motivation wrong. I don't think its going to make sense if you try to look at the claim from the goal of "I want to survive"

I think he softed Doc to make an attempt to help him brute force the NSG lynch and have some justification and foundation on why he did it.

If he's scum why not claim "I'm odd night" then. If he's scum, I mean. He would have the full range of fake claims.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

not to mention town just by not scum with Vecna.
pedit: Because he didn't think of it and maybe 2-shot Doc sounded more believable to him?

You think scum reck plans this claim elaborately to get NSG lynched

and yet lacks the competence level to avoid the "why didn't you protect our obvious town power role last night" claim?

Like you have to pick one. Either he's displaying a competent strategy or he's not, but you can't mix your wires.

The claim and the action last night are inextricably linked.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like where is the scum motivation in that admission?

are you srsly asking what the scum motivation for

fakeclaiming

is?

Are you dense?

If he is scum, why would he choose to fakeclaim something that would give him so much heat

He could have just fake claimed odd night or some other nonsense. The scum motivation to CHOOSE to say "I'm a doctor but I didn't protect Pine" IS SO FUCKING LOW I cannot believe that you are suggesting that it exists.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

"what's the scum motivation for fakeclaiming" she says, ignoring the circumstance and choices made in the claim to better fit her argument.

Who the fuck did Pirate Mollie replace in for again? Which slot?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

ArcAngel9.

... I really still feel that slot has to be town, but every inch of my bones itches to kill mollie for that line of thought.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I would lynch Penguin, for sure. 100%

I would also still lynch Hyung. Dude is still scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I would lynch Penguin, for sure. 100%

I would also still lynch Hyung. Dude is still scum.

Not sure if u saw but MariaR is hyuung slot

So, which would you prefer?

Oh.

Hmmm.

Is NSG off the table because that really needs to die

but if I have to choose, Hyung first I guess? I really _really_ think he's scum

[Lady Lambdadelta]

NSG is off the table for now

then Hyung, between the two

[Lady Lambdadelta]

this is a good lynch

I approve

[Lady Lambdadelta]

give her a chance to mebbe see that it seems like it is her last day

like i said, i think i've done as much as i possibly could this game. if it really

was

my last day then it'd just make me want to force a lynch more onto LLD because, like i said, i feel like she'd get ignored in favor of lynching more lynchbait-y players.

laptop is working yaye!

bored, disinterested, anti town is town lld. when she is scum her pushes tend to be a bit more tactical while when she is town she will sometimes vote for some1 if they annoy her. I think this town lld based on meta and alisae has brought up some good points about associatives with veca that I kind of agree with.

the game isn't locked, but I think if we lynch with maria/titus I think it will go along way to move the game forward.

i have my own raisons for being a bit sus of reck/gamma but there might some stuff I am missing and I m in the meantime focus on the 2 players who are at the bottom of poe.

I think you are in a position where you have done as much as you can and I thank you. now go gloat over the fact that you correctly identified scum!penguin and lord it over the naysayers who wanted to lynch you instead and allow your time to shine in the light cos that read was pretty gorgeous. that you talked your way out of a utility lynch which is not easy is also beautiful, so go enjoy it, you deserve it. <3

toi et moi, nous aurons mots.

Anti Town? Vraiment?

C'est comme... je sais que je suis sans inspiration dans set jeu, mais si tu regard ma readlist Il y a Vecna PUIS Penguin dans le "Scum" location.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

fucking grumble

[Lady Lambdadelta]

antitown

And Maria is Hyung, right?

Vote: Maria

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote:Titus

TOLD YOU FUCKERS HYUNG WAS SCUM.

WUTFACE DUDE

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: Titus

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: Gamma

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I was voting Gamma for vote counter

[Lady Lambdadelta]

here's where my head is at

Ginngie, Gamma and Fire are all town.

Alisae prob town?

Leaving Vax, Cheeky and ArcAngel.

I am hesitant to lynch ArcAngel after Day 1.

I feel like if we lynch Vax and Cheeky we probably just win?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD what is going through ur brain

You literally ninja'd me as I was making that post lmao

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like, for me

Ginngie and Gamma are confirmed town.

there is no way Firebringer scum aligns with my thoughts that perfectly over the past few days and we lynch scum every time basically.

Alisae did some things I'll keep to myself that make her basically town to me.

ArcAngel's day 1 thing was weird for her to be scum, but if the whole team is incompetent... it might make sense.

Cheeky is tweeking like a mofo and coming out of the gate hard. Feels like potentially last scum alive trying for desperation lynches.

Vax has been absent all game, which isn't impossible for town vax but the claim is weird and while it's provable that doesn't mean jack shit.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So I think if I had to order them...

Ginngie/Gamma
Fire
-----
Alisae
-------
ArcAngel
---------
Vax
Cheeky

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cheeky is tweeking like a mofo and coming out of the gate hard. Feels like potentially last scum alive trying for desperation lynches.

please try harder not to see I'm conf town.

what

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: Cheeky

"I'm a VT"

"I'm confirmed town."

[Lady Lambdadelta]

also, on top of that, their post is clearly attempting to chain lynches.

And they need me first because they know I'm harder to lynch and they can't kill me

so they need higher player count for it to ever happen.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

they can't afford to night kill me that's hilarious.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Is Cheeky's like, "I'm conf. town" claim something about how scum pushed them day one?

If that's the case, talk to me about how I have nailed every single scum in my "scum list" so far on day 1, and how Hyung's rapid change to pushing me because of my scumread on them somehow reads scum to you.

You have a "gut" scum read and yet what you are attempting to use to clear yourself is effectively what you're ignoring to try and lynch me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I just think that people should remember that conf is short for 'confirmed', like by mod information or role information from another player, not by the whisperings of their own asshole after eating taco bell.

If any of vax/cheeky/firebringer want to point to someone to claim next then go for it

Yes.

Which is why no matter how much I think Firebringer is like, super fucking town

the only people on my confirmed town list are the Bullletproof who got shot (I presume that has to be the case, since NSG flipped town. Actually, do you think they maybe shot Gamma twice?) and Gamma, who reck protected.

Ok, so maybe Ginngie is less than 100% confirmed town, but I'm operating on the assumption they're town anyway.

But Gamma is 100000% confirmed town

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Day 6 Votecount #2

LLD

- 1 (CheekyTeeky)

CheekyTeeky

- 1 (LLD)

Not Voting - Errybody that isn't Cheeky and LLD

With 8 alive, it’s 5 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2018-06-25 18:00:00)

Ginngie isn't necessarily conf town but unless someone wants make a case on him I'm not considering lynching him today or tomorrow given that scum don't have a bulletproof when town has a one-shot delayed vig AND scum have a redirector, and scum fakeclaiming BP to save a townie from an easy lynch is very, very unlikely. Esp. when it fits with the rest of the setup we know about pretty damn well imo.

Ya that's my thoughts on it too.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD, Alisae is confirmed town by my role information too btw.

Can you full claim it?

She's on my town list, but I don't wanna accidentally 100% confirm someone for nothing.

Either way she's not being lynched today, so.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vax has been absent all game, which isn't impossible for town vax but the claim is weird and while it's provable that doesn't mean jack shit.

I've been absent all game? That fucking rich coming from you. I've been here all game, I was lost yesterday but still present. Where have you been?

I'm the girl with all 3 lynched scum in her scum pool on day 1.

Bitch who the fuck are you again

I'm the one who tried to get Hyung lynched day one.

Who the fuck are you again?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vax has been absent all game, which isn't impossible for town vax but the claim is weird and while it's provable that doesn't mean jack shit.

I've been absent all game? That fucking rich coming from you. I've been here all game, I was lost yesterday but still present. Where have you been?

I'm the girl with all 3 lynched scum in her scum pool on day 1.

Bitch who the fuck are you again

I'm the one who tried to get Hyung lynched day one.

Who the fuck are you again?

this works against you since you will bus to clear yourself

which is what gamma was saying

No, that's not what Gamma said.

What Gamma said, which is the truth, is that despite having all 3 scum on my list and wanting to lynch them all, I didn't get

any towncred

for their lynches.

Further, when I replaced into the game, I could have allowed ArcAngel to be lynched. Would you like to know the truth?

I unvoted after ArcAngel was lynched day 1, but UT allowed my unvote to be accepted due to replacement. Effectively saying I "unvoted when I replaced in" which was prior to the final hammer vote

I could have quite literally AFK'd for about 20 minutes and ArcAngel would have been lynched instead. That's you. That's your slot.

Now since we ain't scum together, since there's only one scum left

either that means

ArcAngel was town, and if I was scum I DELIBERATELY stopped a town lynch that I would have taken exactly 0 heat for.

OR

ArcAngel is scum, but since there's only 1 scum left likely, that would make me town.

There's just no situation I'm scum. I don't bus like that. I bus people, for sure, but I bus for cred and I bus to win games.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Can you full claim it?

She's on my town list, but I don't wanna accidentally 100% confirm someone for nothing.

Fullish Claim here:

I am a inventor (sort of).
I give people the gift of google glasses, which are totally not lame and anyone who says they are sucks,
the people who get them can put them on or don't use them whatever, but if they put them on, I can see what actions they perform and who visits them.

Alisae is cleared because E didn't visit anyone last night.

Gotcha.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

gamma and I can role name confirm each other.

I can send dong pics if he is dead

there was 1 sent n1 and I was asking him about it

thats about it

but based on play I am pretty sure gamma is town. and I am too so hullooo mason buddies unite

i am not understanding this.
you both are confirmed to each other or just your roles are confirmed to each other?

what does the dong pics do?

Their role names are confirmed to each other, which isn't the same.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yeah I would never kill BBMolla tbh.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

WAIT

HEY, GAMMA

WHAT IF LIKE, SHE'S DOING THAT THING SCUM DO WHERE THEY SORTA TELL THE TRUTH

WHAT IF YOU WERE KILLED BOTH NIGHTS THERE WAS NO KILL

WHAT IF YOU'RE A SECRET ENABLER FOR A SCUM POWER ROLE.

WHAT IF ARCANGEL REALLY WAS THE SCUM

MY MIND IS REELING

[Lady Lambdadelta]

someone come talk to me about why gamma was killed so frequently

like, does it just fit?

but then why would she claim that Gamma has to die for her role to work

OH BECAUSE IT'S MIRRORED. GAMMA WOULD KNOW SOMETHING IS WRONG IF SHE DIDN'T.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

BUT WAIT ARCANGEL WAS THE LIKE, SUPER COUNTER WAGON D1.

IS THAT REALLY A SCUM SLOT

[Lady Lambdadelta]

someone help I'm having an aneurysm

[Lady Lambdadelta]

lets not go nuts.

it's probably just cheeky my dude

but like

let a girl dream

[Lady Lambdadelta]

is anyone really arguing that e isn't?

No she's definitely town.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

as much as I wld love to believe that gamma and I are masons I am not sure. but ffs reck's townread on him and I was willing to go with that.

but

it doesn't make sense

Gamma is confirmed town.

You're not.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

as much as I wld love to believe that gamma and I are masons I am not sure. but ffs reck's townread on him and I was willing to go with that.

but

it doesn't make sense

Gamma is confirmed town.

You're not.

speaking of which

I've asked you to claim twice already

soooo do ya think you can manage it soon

Oh, sorry I didn't read up. I have a guest over and have been paying minimal attention. (UncertainKitten get)

I'm Mountain Dew. I'm an enabler. I target players at night and their actions become unblockable, nonredirectable, etc. Further, if they are an x-shot ability, if I target them on the night they use it, their shot is refunded.

I have mostly been using it on Reck, then on Firebringer.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Mollie ur throwing shade at gamma too

I have. haven't I!

its almost as if a night action happened that I don't understand but seems to have been connected to my role and I am trying to figure it out

I swear to all the adorable dogs in the world that my role can not send dickpics

did you ask UT thooouuuggghhhhhh b/c he's not going to tell it to me but you should get to know what actions if any arc submitted

I'm telling you, Mollie might be scum.

It fits with the constant Gamma night kills we've been seeing and the eventually reluctant Reck night kill.

Additionally, this whole "action" shit is weird.

On top of it, her trying to shade you as non-confirmed town when

you've been shot at night and cannot be scum

is fucking unreal.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

it's honestly probably Cheeky but Mollie's play today is so erratic that it fits scum who is desperate to find enough lynches to actually win this game. They need 3 mislynches.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like the hop from "LLD is town" to "LLD IS SHADING ME MUST BE SCUM" is a survival instinct at this point. She realized I'm non-confirmed and hard to lynch so she needs to lynch me now while there are apathetic but survivalistic townies alive to do so.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I dunno, that's just my read on it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Just looks like paranoid town to me

I guess.

It is easy to fake being paranoid town tho.

Especially when it's me you're faking onto.

Like, do you know how easy it is to pretend to be paranoid that LLD is scum? all you gotta say is LLD IS SO SCARY AS SCUM AHH and it's believable.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Example 1.turn of camn

fair enough

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I think we should be lynching Cheeky, but honestly I'm still twitching about you mollie so

[Lady Lambdadelta]

To expand on that. I realize scum arent going to come out and Scum claim, but we are looking for something.

Also, as far as where my head is with my mutant (no e!) read, I think he may be a 3rd party or serial killer. This really doesnt look like their town game, and you don't seem to think this is his scum game

.

I'd like to draw everyone's attention to this post. I would lynch Vax at literally any time. This post is awful.

VOTE: Vaxkiller

VOTE: Vaxkiller

explain? i thought his whole thought process with regards to mutant was towny, didn't ping me as seeming like scum pushing for a mislynch.

I'll answer this later. Yep this is town NSG.

Well you said you would explain it later.

Goddamnit

VOTE: Cheeky

Real!vote

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

This feels like either Pine got baited or they're both scum trying to make this wagon happen.

Cheeky just has so much equity as being a town mislynch right now, it's insane. So many people I feel bad about push votes on them randomly and it's like, at least

SOME

of them have to be scum, right?

No way this is a bus, doesn't feel right. I think Cheeky's gotta be mislynch bait.

Scum team: arcangel cheeky brian

hahahahahahhahahahahahhahaha

LLD tell me why you want me over Vax today?

You were pretty sure he was scum D1 and pretty sure I was town. Look at his scum team

I think LLD, Mollie and Fire are town from going through their ISOs. Looking at the rest of you fools next.

... I forgot Vax made those posts. Straight up, I completely forgot and have been going off like, how I was looking at your posting today and my general recall.

My recall generally doesn't fail me, but yeah, no. Vax was really fucking bad earlier. Why

do

I have you as a harder scum read right now...

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Lemme just read back a bit.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Can people talk to me about their T—bone read please ty <3

Im guessing tbone is the type of player that is able to easily fabricate long coherent posts as scum? So far ive been under the impression he seems pretty town.

Effort and long coherent posts isn’t alignment indicative.

Alisae and Vecna are not scum together.

Yes Alisae is definitely town.

For a lot of reasons.

Including Firebringer's claim.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Does anyone have more shit to say at this point? I was hoping for more from vax and I personally think cheeky's still a little more likely to be scum than him but I'm pretty ready just to lynch either and lynch the next tomorrow if we don't win the game.

LLD do you still want mollie dead or do you want one in particular of vax/cheeky/whoever, you were bouncing off of cheeky's suspicions of vax last time I remember

I've swung back to Vax, actually.

I forgot how bad Vax was early, and as all those memories flood back with the re-read, the more I feel the scales tip a bit there.

Vote: Vaxkiller

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote:Cheeky

THIS IS L-1

[Lady Lambdadelta]

VOTE: Gnngie

Don't do this.

Instead

Vote: No Lynch

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I have 3 really good reasons to no lynch here. I don't wanna say too much else about it, because the more we say the more the decision by mafia becomes tainted.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote me plz

Why?

I'm so confused.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't understand what you're implying.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The vote count lmfao

We literally do this every time

OH

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I THOUGHT YOU WERE SELF VOTING I WAS SO CONFUSED I WAS LIKE

"THE FUCK IS GOING ON IS THE GAME OVER HELP THIS MAKES NO SENSE"

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote for Votecounter: Ginngie

Vote for Lynch: No lynch

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Will you vote No Lynch Ginngie?

I don't want to drag this out, the longer we talk, the more info the scum have to make their kill tonight and I want to see what they do.

Plus, 2 other secret reasons.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I’m not saying what i will or won’t do

I mean, fine?

I just don't want to speculate who dies and I don't want to give scum more info.

I'll tell you who you should lynch in my death but I have so many reasons to no lynch and just have everyone shut up right now.

Like, the more we talk the more the kill means nothing I just need this to happen.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Please tell me you understand what I'm hinting at.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I think we need like one more

Who are the other two alive

Also if you can help me with LyLo that’d be great

I’m going to LyLo because lol it’s me

You’re probs getting killed for being town with your confusion

(Why i was vague)

So yeah needs help

Oh and other two alive.... looks like Gamma died so Alisae and Mollie

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I honestly think its Mollie btw

Look you're not wrong, but please

just no lynch with me here.

Vote: No Lynch

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Basically I'm like 95/5 split with Mollie being 95.

But.

This no lynch play is just strictly better statistically so please don't make it worse. Every word we speak makes it worse

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Gammagooey,

Town Basic Bitch Rival Suicide Bomber

, killed Night 7

Gammagooey

Galaxy Note 7

Town Basic Bitch Rival Suicide Bomber

The Galaxy Note 7 is a fantastic new phone with a huge screen and lots of space for apps. It has a unique feature wherein it will explode on your enemies. Probably. Don't worry about it.

Active Powers:

1. At night, you may target another player. You will target both that player and yourself with a killing action.
2. At any time, you may choose to drink you Starbucks Pumpkin Spice Latte. If done at night, you may do this in combination with any other active abilities you have.

Passive Powers:

1. You know that XXX is iPhone X, and XXX knows that you are Galaxy Note 7.
2. You cannot use Active Power #1 while XXX is alive.

You win when all players who do not win with the town are dead.

Wait....
Gamma had what was probably the last scum
In his role pm
And didn’t claim it

Are you talkng about the XXX who is iPhone X? That player is Mollie they both claimed it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Thank you.

No more words, every word after this post hurts town.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

It's RC Firebringer.

Any chance he can take to put down other people's play and stroke his own ego, he'll take.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also now that both games are over.

I just want to say.

There was a point where I was the only scum alive in this game AND in "scummers in this game" mafia.

And I was solo piloting both games and it was fucking hard >.>

[Lady Lambdadelta]

the fuck

I graverobbed BBMolla's Delayed vig 2 nights ago.

Last night I shot Alisae with it.

So going into 4 man mylo, all I needed was a No Lynch and I would win.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Sorry I was bad lategame and prob not the most pleasant person through most of the game

For the love of dogs please actually play the game if you sign up for it b/c this was imo very close to the most miserable day 1 I've ever played through

And I think it was fairly scumsided but at least it would up potentially winnable

gg LLD

I tried to play when I replaced in.

ggs, dude. I was seriously considering shooting you so many times (I even shot you once and Reck saved you). You were so annoying to have alive because you kept people doing things.

My role was bonkers good. Having that role on a player like me who likes to take shit to late game and become ultra powerful was just kind of nuts.