Micro 822: THE LAB 4 - Game Over

[Performer]

hey all! good to see you guys again. Micc, great job saving the game by continuing the hosting . Don't know where the host vanished to.

haven't caught up enough yet but from a quick skim, I think it's sky and possibly dunn. But I see some posts here that make me less confident in scum dunn

[Performer]

UNVOTE: dunn
in case of a quick hammer
we have 5 left with 1 goon, so ... thinking it's mylo.
will need to reread some things.


Hi Maria - I recall you from shad's game. wanted to lynch you/dunn/prof/koki so much! hehe

[Performer]

For some reason I thought Pref subbed into the sky slot and I laughed my ass off for a quick moment.

why would I sub into the sky slot ?

[Performer]

This looks like the mylo head and iirc you were portraying a vi in the ny 213. You sound different here.

Haven't been able to get a good enough read on mari and hydra yet . I don't like how sky came in with the meta explain but didn't back it up. I haven't seen your scum play, true. You did vote this slot so that's telling, and your iso looks suspect.

Need to double check isos.

[Performer]

Yeah, after giving this some time it really could be Dunn as the other partner.

That voting on hydra, maria, ok. But then the vote on me & accusation against ceejay earlier in the thread just looks like pocketing of ceejay before his inactivity replace.

And saying it's alright to keep sky in lylo if she's town? Got to be kidding me.

VOTE: dunn

[Performer]

Whoa. Maria was vt??

I was set on pushing her today because she & dunn had meta, so I thought the fact that she was voting him , was interesting to say the least.

[Performer]

Sky, if you were scum last night would you have more likely killed Maria or this slot? Please be honest, I'm just getting information

If I was scum, I would've killed you hands down. Everyone was looking like lurking town.

[Performer]

like vizzy getting so excited that he has to post something outside of hydra is massive town spew imo

Am I town spewing too?

I haven't played with you much but I remember in 213 you weren't very active so I feel like you being more active here is like a genuine attempt at trying harder at that?

Yes that's what I wondered too. He seems town here based on contributions & activity/effort, but in NY 213 he was this VI type of player when he was town in that game.

I actually forgot that you were in there too, sky.

[Performer]

need to reevaluate hydra slot.

[Performer]

also whoever didn't want an accelerated night... shame on you..!

[Performer]

My townreads atm are {Dunnstral, Maria, Hydra lol}

I'm fine with a lynch outside this.

VOTE: Dunnstral

like what changed between the first post and the second post? this just feels like opportunistic wagoning

How would I know?? Ceejay replaced out due to being busy irl or w/e reason.

Also, you only voted ME and never voted the rest of the game.

[Performer]

...Sky you've literally never voted...

i-i voted CJ!!

i've been super detached from this game whoops

If scum win this game, it'll be because of lurkers.

[Performer]

VOTE: Skygazer

example of cj distancing with very little reasoning behind it

What is this accusation even? I'm town and I don't know why he voted you at that time. It's not like he voted scum that's dead now, then that makes sense in distancing theory. This is just way bizarre from you.

[Performer]

I think I asked this a while back but does anyone here have a secret way to read Ceejay? I know there's people who like can read him on like nothing lol.

I did play a newbie with him a while back. Will have to find that.

[Performer]

I don't like how sky came in with the meta explain but didn't back it up.

viewtopic.php?f=83&t=77014
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=76637
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=77254

all of my scum games. i generally try a lot harder at seeming active and i bus my teammates a fair bit especially in 214

contrast that with games like 213 where i go through long periods of lurking and show up randomly to try and solve

Thank you. Here is ceejay's game I played with him in, below.

viewtopic.php?t=76171&f=50&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

[Performer]

Guys, we have 24 hours!! We need to agree on a lynch here, I'm cool to flip over to Sky.

VOTE: sky
when we get nk'd can you guys plsplsplspslplsplsplsp lynch dunn?

GUYS WE HAVE FIFTEEN HOURS AHHH

SO I'm also fine to lynch Performer here but it's not the optimal lynch here ahhh

if it wasn't already obvious, dunn is scum
i think he wants a NL for 4p lyle

10 HOURS GUYS

Please like lynch Sky or Dunn please?? Performer please can you finish your evaluation here?

frick it
VOTE: performer
maria pls vote this

lynch dunn 2marO

VOTE: dunn
yay

A ton of waffling on reads. When you voted in NY 213, it wasn't like that.
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Sky, if you were scum last night would you have more likely killed Maria or this slot? Please be honest, I'm just getting information

Why maria or your slot? Why not the ceejay slot? That questioning looks mighty suspicious.

[Performer]

@hydra and who would YOU have killed if you're scum?

[Performer]

Just looked over that newbie scum game of Sky's. Really does look different than this one.
I think there's a good reason you were left alive, it's because I think scum wanted to keep you for lylo possibility.

More things that make me think hydra lol could be the partner:

VOTE: Hydra lol

this is a solid option

MME's characterization of hydra lol sounds... pretty fake imo. like quoting tons of posts where someone says meaningful things about you and summarizing it as "this person had nothing meaningful to say about me" is just a weird thing to say. and like I don't disagree with everything MME says but the conclusions drawn don't seem reasonable to me.

Perhaps we can go for a different lynch? Somebody who's not xyzzy, me, or Hydra?

this isn't a very town thing of you to say

[Performer]

Actually, can uh ANY players share some more of their reads lol? I've started understanding people's frustration with lurkers now lol

Like, not trying to offend anyone but like geeeez, I thought like, ANYONE would've posted!

For reference here's the exciting ISO here: viewtopic.php?t=76865&f=3&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go

I make 7 posts in the game, and in none of those do I actually seem happy or fun lol.

My reads have changed virtually none, Xyzzy's hammer is weird in a few ways but it isn't towny. MME is still my primary scumread, and aside from those and ceejay I really don't want a wagon on anyone else.

VOTE: MyMilkedEek I'm comfortable with this for now, but if Ceejay doesn't show soon enough I'd probably rather pressure that slot. We really can't keep being so quiet, It's not a healthy game-state for town lol.

However, These and other posts make me dislike Hydra Lol for a partner .

[Performer]

@hydra waffling as in you were indecisive and wanting anyone lynched in a scummy way. What I recalled was you changed your mind a few times but I didn't remember you changing that much every day phase though, so maybe I'm mistaken there.
xyz was a town pr from what I gathered, so no , not mafia.
What do you mean if sky/I are nked , then the game is over??
in terms of the wall posts of quotes I made, I was seeing town & scummy things, so I was figuring if it was likely for you to be the partner or not.
Regarding sky - yeah....

At the end of the day though, I recall being scum with invis once and he was largely inactive. And iirc invis & mylon are indeed more...active when they're town.
I am leaning on voting sky but I don't want to rush this.

[Performer]

Whoa, this game is 36 instead of 48 hours for prods....that's different.

I'll be available throughout today for sky's posts - if she even posts today.

Until then, just waiting for that .

Will have to see if there are any updates in my other games.

[Performer]

Removed two posts meant for another game.

[Performer]

I've seen enough of this waiting for nothing.
VOTE: skygazer

[Performer]

I already did though....

What vote change??
I only voted once today

[Performer]

what do you mean ?

[Performer]

you were trying to figure out whether or not i was the partner by looking at posts but none of them mentioned My Milked Eek?
or were you just trying to find out if we were mafia and none of this has to do with associatives

it was the former - trying to figure out if you were mafia

also im conftown if you guys didnt already know

I wouldn't say conftown but you're likelier town than sky!

[Performer]

Prodge. Waiting for hydra to hammer sky. We've seen enough.

[Performer]

I've more or less said what I needed to, and this whole time has made it even clearer that hydra is likely town. As for whoever voted eek, I don't know what that's about as I replaced in and he died already.

People who keep stalling, which looked exactly like what you were doing, is a classic scum tactic.

You voting this slot twice and those were your only votes, was condemning already.

I was quite convinced and that's why I asked for hammer, to end the day. For you to twist this into me rushing it before defending yourself, you already went on casing me , then I found the time to come to this game to reply. Why else would I bother asking for end of day otherwise?
So you're the partner for twisting that.

[Performer]

Whoa. Maria was vt??

I was set on pushing her today because she & dunn had meta, so I thought the fact that she was voting him , was interesting to say the least.

Sky, if you were scum last night would you have more likely killed Maria or this slot? Please be honest, I'm just getting information

If I was scum, I would've killed you hands down. Everyone was looking like lurking town.

My townreads atm are {Dunnstral, Maria, Hydra lol}

I'm fine with a lynch outside this.

VOTE: Dunnstral

like what changed between the first post and the second post? this just feels like opportunistic wagoning

How would I know?? Ceejay replaced out due to being busy irl or w/e reason.

Also, you only voted ME and never voted the rest of the game.

VOTE: Skygazer

example of cj distancing with very little reasoning behind it

What is this accusation even? I'm town and I don't know why he voted you at that time. It's not like he voted scum that's dead now, then that makes sense in distancing theory. This is just way bizarre from you.

@hydra and who would YOU have killed if you're scum?

Prodge. Waiting for hydra to hammer sky. We've seen enough.

It's also poe with us 3 left, me knowing I'm town from what micc sent me, you (hydra) being likely town due to things such as activity in here to figure things out, your town meta which is like my town meta, and sky's voting pattern and the rest of her ISO.

[Performer]

Man...ceejay muddied this slot so much that it affected hydra's read on it.

Hydra, just look back at what I've said, including that if I was scum I'd have killed you instead because you are active and clearly the bigger threat to scum .

Sky said she would've killed maria, Maria was the n3 kill, Skygazer is not town in this game.

Hydra why are you still so confused ?

[Performer]

Scum won.

Why did you believe sky over this slot? Was ceejay's ISO really that scummy compared to sky?

[Performer]

eh

At least now you should know how to read me better going forward. For both heads to have the same town meta as I do, I thought it wouldn't have been that difficult for voting sky.

[Performer]

Then again, seeing this game with less than 20 pages on d3 & what ceejay posted so far, that was an uphill climb anyway.
Did what I could to get this game moving again, so there's that...thanks for hosting micc!

You never fail to host well, and this is another good example of it!

[Performer]

xxyz checked dunn?? damn... wish he could've breadcrumbed that somehow so that we didn't vote dunn.
Then again, dunn wasn't liking my slot anyway due to the predecessor....so...eh.
Interesting.

[Performer]

thanks for backup modding micc!!

i feel like i got lucky with kill choices and also i was in shock when it was pointed out that the only vote i had made was in rvs lmao

I was in shock too lol. As lylo grew on, things became clearer - partly because hydra did well in looking town .

Generally people scumread me a lot of times because I am decisive, formal, organized - so they think I'm coming from scum. In reality, I just don't care for time wasting in consecutive wall posts, and ridiculously long games. This is really messed up that people sr me for that but eh, they live and (hopefully) learn.

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@xyzzy damn.......

[Performer]

cj do something townie

Searching for a replacement for ceejayvinoya.

oh

favorite string of posts

hi maria (:

yeah I am thinking hydra couldn't back off of how scummy those posts were , regarding my predecessor...I was fully aware of that as well...lol.

[Performer]

after having seen sky's scum game here and in other finished games that she even linked to...I can say without a doubt that you are quite clever at manipulating your scum meta. For a brief moment I was doubting you were scum in this game. Made it a fun game despite the low post counts in this game.

[Performer]

Great so it's my fault

It was a combination of things. It's a team game...It's almost never just one person