Micro 839: Two-in-One (its over)

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Double the game, double the chaos, half the fun.
The creators of the smash hit (not really) Three-in-One bring you the scintillating sequel...

Micro 839: Two-in-One

The setups in question are Carbon 14 and Bird 7P. They are simple setups and I recommend you familiarize yourself with them.

THE PLAYERS, ORGANIZED BY CHARACTER LENGTH:
1. Pine
2. Taly
3. xyzzy
4. Elsa Jay
5. Persivul
6. Irrelephant11
7. Maki Harukawa

Spoiler: STILL IN THIS GAME

1. Pine
2. Taly
3. xyzzy
4. Elsa Jay
5. Persivul
6. Irrelephant11
7. Maki Harukawa

Spoiler: CARBON 14: THE DEAD

Elsa Jay,

Vanilla Townie

, eliminated D1.
Maki Harukawa,

Vanilla Townie

, eliminated N1.
Pine,

Town Seer

, eliminated D2.
Werewolves win.

Spoiler: BIRD 7: THE DEAD

xyzzy,

Mafia Goon

, eliminated N1.
Taly,

Mafia Goon

, eliminated D2.
Town wins.

Spoiler: MODKILLED

made ya look

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RULES:

Conduct:

-

Know and follow the site rules.

- I prefer questions and V/LA announcements by PM. If in-thread, do so on a separate line in bold.
- Don’t post after you’re dead.
- Don’t use

my color, #BF00FF

or attempt to impersonate me.
- I should be able to readily see all communication. (No untitled spoilers, obfuscation, discussing game outside of approved areas, etc.)

Playing the Game:

- Post about every 48 hours or prod. 3 prods or 24 hours after a prod and I will resort to replacement and if necessary, modkill.
- 14 day Day Phases. 48 hour Night Phases.
- Majority vote leads to lynch. Majority to vote "no lynch" leads to no lynch. No majority leads to no lynch.

Notes:

If rules change or are ambiguous, I will do my best to be fair. I reserve the right to make a judgment on any attempts to break the game or abuse a loophole.
Games get heated, but I will interfere if I consider the limit to be crossed.
If you aren’t sure whether or not something will violate the rules, ask.
If you see someone violating the rules, let me know.

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Playing Two-in-One:

- As long as you are alive, you may post in the game thread or your scumtopic about either game.
- Each game is in a vacuum (no mechanical actions can effect the outcome of the other game).
- If you are killed the night you investigate, you will not receive the result.
- To vote for someone, you must specify which game you are voting in.

Examples for C14 voting include

VOTE 1: EP

,

C14 VOTE: EP

, VOTE: 1 EP
Examples for Bird7 voting include

VOTE 2: EP

,

B7 VOTE: EP

, VOTE: 2 EP

I have not used the same exact wording as the role PMs on the wiki. If it comes up, I will provide the role PMs of every role in the game, but come on, let's just not make any arguments related to PM wording. Let's just keep it cool and casual. I'm lazy.

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Role PMs are out.

Confirm your roles to me. Once everyone confirms I will unlock the thread.

Votecount 1.0

C14

Not Voting

(7): Pine, Taly, xyzzy, Elsa Jay, Persivul, Irrelephant11, Maki Harukawa

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

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B7

Not Voting

(7): Pine, Taly, xyzzy, Elsa Jay, Persivul, Irrelephant11, Maki Harukawa

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2019-01-02 17:37:00)

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Votecount 1.1

C14

Maki Harukawa

(2): xyzzy, Irrelephant11

Not Voting

(5): Pine, Taly, Elsa Jay, Persivul, Maki Harukawa

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

--

B7

Elsa Jay

(1): Irrelephant11

Irrelephant11

(1): Elsa Jay

Maki Harukawa

(1): xyzzy

Not Voting

(4): Pine, Taly, Persivul, Maki Harukawa

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2019-01-02 17:37:00)

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Votecount 1.2

C14

Pine

(2): xyzzy, Persivul

Maki Harukawa

(1): Irrelephant11

No Lynch

(1): Maki Harukawa

Not Voting

(3): Pine, Taly, Elsa Jay

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

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B7

Pine

(2): xyzzy, Persivul

Elsa Jay

(1): Irrelephant11

Irrelephant11

(1): Elsa Jay

Not Voting

(3): Pine, Taly, Maki Harukawa

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2019-01-02 17:37:00)

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Would we get the results of that lynch immediately? Before D1 ends for the other game? Or do we get 2 lynch-flips at once, at the end of both dayphases?

Once a majority is reached, a lynch is immediately achieved.
However, flips will only be revealed when both lynches are achieved, during the Twilight Phase.

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Votecount 1.3

C14

Pine

(2): xyzzy, Persivul

Elsa Jay

(1): Irrelephant11

No Lynch

(1): Maki Harukawa

Not Voting

(3): Pine, Taly, Elsa Jay

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

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B7

Pine

(2): xyzzy, Persivul

Elsa Jay

(1): Irrelephant11

Irrelephant11

(1): Elsa Jay

Not Voting

(3): Pine, Taly, Maki Harukawa

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2019-01-02 17:37:00)

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Votecount 1.4

C14

Pine

(1): xyzzy

No Lynch

(1): Maki Harukawa

Not Voting

(5): Pine, Taly, Elsa Jay, Irrelephant11, Persivul

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

--

B7

Irrelephant11

(2): Elsa Jay, Maki Harukawa

Elsa Jay

(1): Taly

Pine

(1): xyzzy

Not Voting

(2): Pine, Irrelephant11, Persivul

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2019-01-02 17:37:00)

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Votecount 1.4

C14

Elsa Jay

(1): xyzzy

No Lynch

(1): Maki Harukawa

Not Voting

(5): Pine, Taly, Elsa Jay, Irrelephant11, Persivul

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

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B7

Elsa Jay

(2): Taly, xyzzy

Irrelephant11

(1): Elsa Jay

xyzzy

(1): Maki Harukawa

Not Voting

(2): Pine, Irrelephant11, Persivul

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2019-01-02 17:37:00)

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I have decided to extend the deadline for 2 days. Prods will also not be going out until the 26th. Anyone against this motion -- speak now, etc.

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Votecount 1.5

C14

Elsa Jay

(1): xyzzy

No Lynch

(1): Maki Harukawa

Not Voting

(5): Pine, Taly, Elsa Jay, Irrelephant11, Persivul

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

--

B7

Elsa Jay

(2): Taly, xyzzy

xyzzy

(2): Maki Harukawa, Elsa Jay

Not Voting

(3): Pine, Irrelephant11, Persivul

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2019-01-04 17:37:00)

Persivul is V/LA until the 31st.
Sending out a mass holiday prod.

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respect people's pronouns and it wont be an issue

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Votecount 1.5

C14

Elsa Jay

(1): xyzzy

No Lynch

(1): Maki Harukawa

Not Voting

(5): Pine, Taly, Elsa Jay, Irrelephant11, Persivul

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

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B7

Elsa Jay

(2): Taly, xyzzy

xyzzy

(2): Maki Harukawa, Elsa Jay

Persivul

(1): Irrelephant11

Not Voting

(2): Pine, Persivul

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2019-01-04 17:37:00)

Persivul is V/LA until the 31st.
Officially prodding Taly.

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Prodding Irrelephant. xyzzy will receive one in an hour.

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Votecount 1.6

C14

Elsa Jay

(1): xyzzy

Maki Harukawa

(1): Taly

No Lynch

(1): Maki Harukawa

Not Voting

(4): Pine, Elsa Jay, Irrelephant11, Persivul

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

--

B7

Elsa Jay

(2): Taly, xyzzy

xyzzy

(2): Maki Harukawa, Elsa Jay

Persivul

(1): Irrelephant11

Not Voting

(2): Pine, Persivul

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2019-01-04 17:37:00)

Pine is V/LA until the 1st.

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I have decided to deny the request for further deadline extension. I hope this is understandable.

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Votecount 1.7

C14

Elsa Jay

(3): xyzzy, Pine, Persivul

Persivul

(2): Irrelephant11, Elsa Jay

Maki Harukawa

(1): Taly

No Lynch

(1): Maki Harukawa

Not Voting

(0):

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

--

B7

Irrelephant11

(2): Persivul, xyzzy

xyzzy

(2): Maki Harukawa, Irrelephant11

Elsa Jay

(1): Taly

Pine

(1): Elsa Jay

Not Voting

(1): Pine

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2019-01-04 17:37:00)

Pine is V/LA until the 1st.

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Votecount 1.8

C14

Elsa Jay

(3): xyzzy, Pine, Persivul

Persivul

(2): Irrelephant11, Elsa Jay

Maki Harukawa

(1): Taly

No Lynch

(1): Maki Harukawa

Not Voting

(0):

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

--

B7

Irrelephant11

(2): Persivul, xyzzy

xyzzy

(2): Maki Harukawa, Irrelephant11

Pine

(1): Elsa Jay

Not Voting

(2): Pine, Taly

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2019-01-04 17:37:00)

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Votecount 1.9

C14

Elsa Jay

(3): xyzzy, Pine, Persivul

Maki Harukawa

(2): Taly, Irrelephant11

Persivul

(1): Elsa Jay

No Lynch

(1): Maki Harukawa

Not Voting

(0):

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

--

B7 - FINAL

xyzzy

(4): Maki Harukawa, Irrelephant11, Persivul, Elsa Jay

Irrelephant11

(1): xyzzy

Pine

(1): Taly

Not Voting

(1): Pine

Deadline in (expired on 2019-01-04 17:37:00)

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Votecount 1.10 - FINAL

C14

Elsa Jay

(4): xyzzy, Pine, Persivul, Taly

Maki Harukawa

(1): Irrelephant11

Persivul

(1): Elsa Jay

No Lynch

(1): Maki Harukawa

Not Voting

(0):

--

B7

xyzzy

(4): Maki Harukawa, Irrelephant11, Persivul, Elsa Jay

Irrelephant11

(1): xyzzy

Pine

(1): Taly

Not Voting

(1): Pine

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CARBON

In Carbon 14, you are a

Vanilla Townie

.
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Elsa Jay, the

Vanilla Townie

, has been eliminated from Carbon-14 on Day 1. She is still a player in the game and can contribute thoughts about either game, but she may not vote in Carbon-14.

BIRD

In Bird 7P, you are a

Mafia Goon

.
You win when all members of the town have been eliminated or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

xyzzy, the

Mafia Goon

, has been eliminated from Bird 7P on Day 1. They are still a player in the game and can contribute thoughts about either game, but they may not vote in Bird 7P.

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Night begins.

Actions in by (expired on 2019-01-06 17:41:00)

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In Carbon 14, you are a

Vanilla Townie

.
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Maki Harukawa, the

Vanilla Townie

, has been eliminated from Carbon-14 on Night 1. She is still a player in the game and can contribute thoughts about either game, but she may not vote in Carbon-14.

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Votecount 2.1

C14

Not Voting

(5): Pine, Taly, xyzzy, Persivul, Irrelephant11

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to reach majority.

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B7

Not Voting

(6): Pine, Taly, Elsa Jay, Persivul, Irrelephant11, Maki Harukawa

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to reach majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2019-01-21 12:20:00)

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Votecount 2.2

C14

Not Voting

(5): Pine, Taly, xyzzy, Persivul, Irrelephant11

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to reach majority.

--

B7

Taly

(3): Elsa Jay, Pine, Irrelephant11

Pine

(1): Taly

Not Voting

(2): Persivul, Maki Harukawa

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to reach majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2019-01-21 12:20:00)

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Wait.

Mod: if B7 ends and we hung scum, does that mean those who are also dead leave the game since they aren't alive in C14?

yes

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the latter

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Votecount 2.3

C14

Not Voting

(5): Pine, Taly, xyzzy, Persivul, Irrelephant11

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to reach majority.

--

B7 - FINAL

Taly

(4): Elsa Jay, Pine, Irrelephant11, Maki Harukawa

Pine

(1): Taly

Not Voting

(1): Persivul

Deadline in (expired on 2019-01-21 12:20:00)

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Votecount 2.4 - FINAL

C14

Pine

(3): Taly, Persivul, Irrelephant11

Not Voting

(2): Pine, xyzzy

--

B7

Taly

(4): Elsa Jay, Pine, Irrelephant11, Maki Harukawa

Pine

(1): Taly

Not Voting

(1): Persivul

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Persivul and Irrelephant11, the

WEREWOLVES

of Carbon 14 achieve victory!
Persivul, Maki Harukawa, Irrelephant11, Pine, and Elsa Jay, the

TOWN

of Bird 7P achieve victory!

full list of roles:

1. scum -- irre
2. scum -- persivul
3. vt -- elsa
4. vt -- maki
5. vt -- xyzzy
6. cop -- taly
7. seer -- pine

--

1. goon -- taly
2. goon -- xyzzy
3. vt -- persivul
4. vt -- maki
5. vt -- irre
6. macho cop -- pine
7. doc -- elsa jay

night actions

c14:
mafia killls maki
taly cops irrelephant (not mafia)
pine seers maki (not werewolf)

b7:
mafia kills maki
pine cops maki (town)
elsa protects maki

Congrats to maki, the double VT, for being our most popular target!
Thanks to all of you for playing!

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Some bookkeeping:

1) mafia, you have 24 hours to consent to PT release.
b7 - viewtopic.php?f=90&t=78125&p=10615844#p10615844
C14- viewtopic.php?f=90&t=78124&p=10615843#p10615843

2) viewtopic.php?f=90&t=78123&p=10615829#p10615829 is the link to the modthread. the dice roll is static bc i edited the post afterwards.

3)

This is very likely not the end of 2-in-1

. I believe this concept has a lot of ground to cover -- for example, can we introduce mechanics that cross over between setups? can we introduce different voting rules (your vote counts in both games, etc)?

If you have ANY suggestions for the next iteration, (rule tweaks, procedure tweaks, setup suggestions, etc) or ANY dissatisfaction with the current way things are run, please let me know. The goal is to gradually try increasing this concept in complexity, fixing mistakes and adapting along the way, and micros are a fun and fast way to do that. The next one will probably be another open micro without any tweaks (9P).

4) On that note, if any players or spectators are interested in being notified of the next potential 2-in-1 game, please let me know. It will likely be more than a month down the line.

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hey here's an idea for a stupid C14 variant: the two non-town players share an alignment and are treated as a normal unified faction no matter what, but they each roll either werewolf or mafia independently, so you have a 50% chance of a team of one wolf and one goon, a 25% chance of two wolves, and a 25% chance of two goons.

I'm gonna make a post about in the open setups subforum btw because I think this idea has legs

im not the best setup analyst but this seems like town is strictly weaker in this variant