Mini 2064 - Giffy-Q (Game Over!)

[MariaR]

Hello friends how are you doing! Nya.

I hope we can have a fun game nya
VOTE: Gamma

[MariaR]

Yay

VOTE: MariaR

Her name is green, therefore, she must be scum

I'm not scum. I'm a perfectly innocent towny nya! Your logic isn't that bad though so you can have a towny point nya.

[MariaR]

Yay

VOTE: MariaR

Her name is green, therefore, she must be scum

I'm not scum. I'm a perfectly innocent towny nya! Your logic isn't that bad though so you can have a towny point nya.

Sheep me, I'm right.

You seem logical so I'll sheep you nya.
VOTE: RC

[MariaR]

i'm okay Enter. pretty tired. yourself?

Maria because she also has a vote and because she's Maria.

Chara my friend! nya~ How are you it's been forever since we played together. nya~

I'd like to say a word in her behalf
Maria makes me laugh

How do you solve a problem like Maria?
How do you catch a cloud and pin it down?
How do you find the word that means Maria?
A flibbertijibbet! A will-o'-the wisp! A clown!

I like this thank you pinkie nya~

[MariaR]

Nya?

[MariaR]

VOTE: Vedith

Why is enter scum Chara? nya~

[MariaR]

Take this post restriction off and we got a deal. nah~
Until then, hiss! nya~

[MariaR]

ARE YOU FKING SRS AUTO CORRECT NOOOOOOO nya~

[MariaR]

Do you believe prince, Dunn, mariar have a neighborhood?

Why is this a relevant question? Nya~

VOTE: enter

[MariaR]

Why would you respond like you don't think it's relevant to discuss roles and abilities and then respond like you do?

No idea what the second part of your question means Nya~
Who cares if we do or don't have a neighborhood. nya~ It's not really a good topic of conversation because it can always be confirmed or not. nya~ All it does is make noise in the thread. nya~

[MariaR]

Claim: Miller neighbor without a neighbor. The mod is trolling me. Just get that out there right away.

Considering all roles were random this isn’t that hard a claim to believe. Can it be fake? Yeah, but it can easily be real. Nya~

Because that's what it looks like you're softing here

If you're town less messing around next time

VOTE: Slaxx

This is a really gross way to go about this, I don’t mean doubting the claim because fine, I understand the doubt. Nya~ But just the whole tone of the post like it’s locked in stone that this is fake. I doubt you really came to an answer that fast. Nya~

What game?
I've got bad terrible awful memory.

VOTE: MariaR
I can support you on this, though. Maria often looks way more strikingly town to me, idk why.

First time I think I’ve ever heard you make this claim, not sure I buy it nya~

T_T didn't feel like a joke.

that's fair, you don't have the context for it. Enter knew what i was doing pretty quickly for the same reason i knew both his pushes before Maria were not serious.

Enter: on Maria? i'm not very good at reading her. we play a lot and i'm consistently suspicious of her as town and fooled by her as scum.

Awww poor Chara, maybe one day you'll get better at reading me. nya~

[MariaR]

Maria I wish I had your role and post restriction

I don't! nya~

I think I severely misunderstood what this setup was meant to be.
Otherwise I would've rerolled for Magical Girl, too.

Maria got the lucky roll. I was once scum partners with her roll. It's pretty cool.

It's annoying because I can't really hide what my role is nya~ It's pretty public nya~

VOTE: maria

wagons are good

Do you mean this as in you like wagons or the current wagons are good? nya~

[MariaR]

rce's logic may be (is) awful but I fail to see why you guys think that makes him more likely to be scum.

Basically this nya~

makes this even better, because as far as I remember she has never pushed on Dunn as town on town so if dunn is town, free Maria sort.

i just had a game where she did.
i'm not flipping Dunnstral just to sort Maria when i could try and sort both.
but i'm not interested in that right now anyway. i do think Dunn looks worse than Maria right now. what do you think of RC and Shiro?

False. Did I push Dunn in that game? Yes I did think he was scum at first but you'll see I ended up voting with him in the end. nya~ Obviously I wasn't scumreading him. I was going to retract that scumread too before you guys fucking power lynched me without giving me a chance to post (thanks for that btw nya~)

[MariaR]

she has never pushed on Dunn as town on town

Wrong.

You. Power. Lynched. Me. Before. I. Could. Retract. The. Scumread. nya~

I liked Vedith's townblock. Not the people in it but the reasoning behind it. Townleaned you on tone, you seemed pretty happy to have the game going.

His townblock was a meme. I don't get how you like the reasoning for it. Like if you said you like the people in it I'd understand, but no. nya~

[MariaR]

Why not votes on Wisdom nya~

[MariaR]

Like he's playing with a pretty blatantly clear scum agenda nya~ I don't feel comfortable voting RC/enter because if wisdom is scum and I think he is. I don't think RC/Enter are scum nya~
pedit: That's false but if you wanna keep pushing that idea that I can't read dunn go for it. nya~

[MariaR]

I think the stuff RCE is getting pushed on is pretty dumb. I don't think it's very valid to get pushed on neighborhood theory. nya~

[MariaR]

I've never seen a more blatantly obv TvT fight in my life nya~

[MariaR]

interesting. nya~

[MariaR]

UNVOTE:
nya~

[MariaR]

and id include maria too

never safe to townread her

*wink* nya~

[MariaR]

Vote Count 1.08

Sigma Sapphire Slacks:

MariaR:

Dunnstral (4):

Pink Ball, Vedith, Wisdom, Chara

Wisdom:

Shiro:

Vedith:

Pink Ball:

Blackjacks (3):

Shiro, Dunnstral, Prince of Renais

Enter (1):

MariaR

EeveeLution Army (1):

Sigma Sapphire Slacks

Prince of Renais (1):

Blackjacks

RCEnigma:

Enter

Chara:

Not Voting:

EeveeLution Army, RCEnigma

With 13 alive, 7 to lynch

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-03-31 19:40:00)

pffffft these the wagons we're dealing with? Alright, guess I can wait for something more entertaining nya~

[MariaR]

Prob not today, but I'm not going to stop it. I don't have a good read on him. nya~ A lot of the stuff he's posting is NAI. He had 1 scummy post but that's really all. Would rather wagon a more active slot. nya~

[MariaR]

Yes, yes I do. It's also 100% easier to buddy/get a townread from a player in a hood, but I want to know why Dunn posted more in the neighborhood then here. It's clear he's read more than he's letting on.

[MariaR]

I don't rly find buddying scummy because I do it all the time. The whole way you went about the neighborhood is why people have eyes on you.

[MariaR]

Side note thank god it's been 3 days now I don't have to do that until day 2.
Let's drag out this day thanks so much.
VOTE: Pink ball

[MariaR]

You haven't really tried to disprove or give your own events on how it happened. So it's logical to assume it's true. Unless you want to give a counter.

[MariaR]

Btw. I can't believe I have to explain this but: The Blackjack wagon is beyond stupid. The logic of one of the heads would've posted if now if they're town is dumb. If they have a bad scumgame and are known for said bad scumgame of course they're gonna post more to counteract that. The main answer is the hydra is most likely lazy. I probably would've voted the hydra if they just made the posts they did and no one was wagoning them before but the way people are going at this dear lord

[MariaR]

I think we've have better luck in Eevee and Pink but ayy.

[MariaR]

Why are you voting Pink ball?

Because his iso is full of filler/memes and when he made legit posts they've been awful and half-assed.

[MariaR]

He's not calling me scummy. He's just basically respecting my scumgame to an extreme extent saying I shouldn't be townread. (At least I think so)

[MariaR]

How about we vote Pink ball instead.

[MariaR]

do you not like me, chara?

i don't really have anything against you, no. but if you want a chummy relationship you haven't gone about it the right way.

Do I have a shot at this chummy relationship?

[MariaR]

Do I have a shot at this chummy relationship?

last post was to Renais. you already have said chummy relationship. <3

I can die happy.
pedit: Read his iso. As I said before his way of going at the wagons is pretty blah. He's prob town if Dunn is scum but I'm not really basing game off pre flip and going off play itself. His play is halfassed and shallow

[MariaR]

pedit: day 1 scum lynches are anti-town. let's lynch Maria.

oh no

[MariaR]

I'm gonna kill pinkball rn

[MariaR]

no like I just entered a kill on pinkball
I'm dead srs

[MariaR]

Why?

[MariaR]

I'm a reverse desperado and I just shot pinkball.
So now we wait

[MariaR]

Shoot scum I die
shoot town I'm fine

[MariaR]

Was debating between Enter/Pinkball tbh picked in the end

[MariaR]

Vedith is a good vig shot

[MariaR]

I'm debating changing my target to Vedith while gif isn't online
hm

[MariaR]

I don't really care about your opinion about me

[MariaR]

I didn't use the power to be optimal I used it because if I die I can get out of this game. Pretty simple

[MariaR]

ok well that was boring. Should've picked a test that doesn't get me outted by the mod coming online
cya later.

[MariaR]

I was doing it cause I can.

[MariaR]

Maybe, but I did it because I can. I stopped because I can. Pretty simple and it helped me on a few things.

[MariaR]

What exactly did it help you with?

Reads of course. If you find it fishy place a vote on me Shiro. You won't get me lynched of course but I'd love to see you try. Personally it's cute that you find it so impossible for town me to fake this.Scum me doesn't need to do this for 'brownie points' whenI'm already fairly townread.
pedit: It's been 3 irl days. I can stop until day 2

[MariaR]

MariaR I want to protect you

But I can't unless you help me with RCE

I don't need protection because I'm not a lynch option for today. I just helped Shiro post decent content for once. As I knew they would considering they're the only one in the game who knows what my role is. How confident are you in this 'tell' of yours.

[MariaR]

MariaR I want to protect you

But I can't unless you help me with RCE

I don't need protection because I'm not a lynch option for today. I just helped Shiro post decent content for once. As I knew they would considering they're the only one in the game who knows what my role is. How confident are you in this 'tell' of yours.

WOAH RUDE

You know I love you

[MariaR]

VOTE: RCE
After recent posting

[MariaR]

Why don't you say why it's scummy Enter.

[MariaR]

Why don't you say why it's scummy Enter.

I...

did?

Oh you did? Sorry that reasoning was so weak I thought you had more. (I know that sounds sarcastic but I'm srs)

[MariaR]

Why don't you say why it's scummy Enter.

I...

did?

Oh you did? Sorry that reasoning was so weak I thought you had more. (I know that sounds sarcastic but I'm srs)

You haven't townposted yet this game

Your LAMIST play earlier was disgusting

Your neighborhood inconsistency was bad

And your vote switch as soon as it appears like you might actually be a target is dirty

I really don't feel like I need more.

1) What do you consider 'townposted' although I think this isn't a useful question considering. Yes, yes I have you're clearly just not reading my posts.
2) What LAMIST play? I never said the play was towny nor did I try and act like it was. You're just making assumptions after I blatantly said it wasn't. I didn't say anything about trying to get cred from the play
3) ???? I never said I was in a neighborhood don't know what you're talking about
4) Who said I was a target? Shiro. If you were reading my posts you'd see I was waiting for Prince to conf the tell or not. He did, so I voted RCE As I said I would

jeesh that was bad

[MariaR]

Whatup
-Gamma

We're lynching Maria

Put your vote on the wagon.

Nope.

[MariaR]

I don't know why you act like you have more influence in the thread than you really do enter.
I had a post redirection that 2 people in this game knew about. Like my role is public information to them of course the test was for reactions so *shrug*

[MariaR]

What I achieved from the play you ask? I got a null slot to start posting I'd call that a success. It worked out pretty well.
Then your neighborhood fact makes no sense.
I was never a target in the first place. My play isn't crappy get your head out of the clouds you're not as influential as you think. If you wanna try and preach my lynch go for it. You're not gonna get anywhere

[MariaR]

Whatup
-Gamma

We're lynching Maria

Put your vote on the wagon.

Nope.

nice response

I don't know why you act like you have more influence in the thread than you really do enter.
I had a post redirection that 2 people in this game knew about. Like my role is public information to them of course the test was for reactions so *shrug*

ur dismissiveness is really selling townreads on u, keep it up

"i don't care how people read me i promise that was town other people know it was town so it's town i promise don't push me"

Do you really think you could get me lynched? Because A lot of people tr me right now so you're better start explaining a bit more. Right now you're not gonna do anything.
I don't really care if you townread me or not I already think you're town so if you wanna keep this up we can, but you're just making noise and to be frank it's bland. Your 'arguments' hold no weight because they're blatantly false. Try again later

[MariaR]

Maria what was the tell?

Don't know. Prince is really confident on it though and I'm not townreading you.
pedit: aka you can't answer the stuff I post and you're dismissing it alright got it enter.
Go back to trying to make cases and failing on them again *Shrug*

[MariaR]

maybe i'm too full of my own head.

ding ding ding. At least you're self-aware enough to realize it Anything else?
pedit: Fair enough

[MariaR]

The main crux of your argument (or at least to me) is you pushed me because I was getting pressured. Correct me if I'm wrong but the only people expressing a scumread on me were A) Shiro who I knew would react like that given the information they know and B) Yourself. That to me isn't pressure because you're 2 people. How I think you're looking at it though is you think you have a lot of influence so when I saw you sr me I had to go 'oh shit better hop wagons!' When that's really not the case.

Even if we go with the assumption I was getting pressured those things don't work on me. You can ask basically anyone pressure votes on me just aren't a thing that work

[MariaR]

The main crux of your argument (or at least to me) is you pushed me because I was getting pressured. Correct me if I'm wrong but the only people expressing a scumread on me were A) Shiro who I knew would react like that given the information they know and B) Yourself. That to me isn't pressure because you're 2 people. How I think you're looking at it though is you think you have a lot of influence so when I saw you sr me I had to go 'oh shit better hop wagons!' When that's really not the case.

Even if we go with the assumption I was getting pressured those things don't work on me. You can ask basically anyone pressure votes on me just aren't a thing that work

No.

The crux of my argument is that
1. When RCE made the comment about neighborhoods earlier and why we weren't voting in the neighborhoods/neighborhood counterclaims, you dismissed it and said it didn't matter and then simultaneously voted in the counter-claimed neighborhood
2. Your fake vig earlier felt fake even as you were pulling it off, especially right after we'd had like three fake vigs from PR
3. I haven't seen anything particularly productive from your slot
4. When you said "I'm not a lynch today" and I applied the slightest bit of pressure to see if you would respond, you flipped your vote to RCE based on PR "confirming a tell" that wasn't really there in the first place. While Shiro and myself aren't enough to push a lynch through, I think based on the fact that your name is green it's pretty likely you're aware that lynches aren't something that everyone has to support immediately.

1) Yes. I did dismiss the neighborhood question because I felt it was a waste of conversation and just plain noise. I didn't see anything productive coming from that conversation. I didn't care who counterclaimed who because it's not like gif picked this set up. It was all random so who cares who got what.
2) How is this AI? Even if you thought the obv test was fake why does this make it more likely scum me does this then town me
3) Fair.
4) I doubt you'd believe me, but me flipping to RCE had nothing to do with you. It was PR conf that he had a tell on RCE. You're correct that lynches aren't something that need support right away, but if you think my reaction to 2 votes or people expressing interest in me dead is 'oh better vote another wagon' then I don't really know what to tell you. As one of the better scum players on site people always express interest in my flip a lot simply because it's me. So this isn't anything new to me

[MariaR]

My point on the last point is that pressure votes aren't always a thing that are used. Town usually talks and shows willingness to lynch a player prior to actually pushing them, and a couple people mentioning not townreading a player/being willing to lynch them is often more pressure than an actual vote, IMO, which is why I used that over the other method.

This is perfectly fine but the way you're going at this is such a basic level of thinking to me. Like, I can't disprove any of it obviously without you going in and metaing me and respecting scum me a bit more but yeah. I think you're looking at things in a more simple matter then possible.

[MariaR]

I died? I have an OJECTION...oh that doesn't work here. Well fk gl gl

[MariaR]

[MariaR]