In post 1680, gobbledygook wrote:I am the vigilante. I did not crumb because I considered any of my shots would be proof in themselves. I did not shoot last night because I did not have a strong enough feel about anyone in the game. I will be shooting tonight, if I am able. I probably should have crumbed now that I am going to get roleblocked until I die.
Anyway, since I am a vigilante that means we are at least on II // KK // with the possibility for II // KK // P? // M? // ? given the claims. I personally think that we are on a 0 T game because if we had one T that would mean there is a serial killer in the game and I doubt that the serial killer
also
no killed last night. It is possible that they shot James Brafin, but I'm not entirely sure. Additionally, it could be that we have a jailkeeper who stopped things. But again, I am not sure.
It is also possible that Drew is lying and we do not have any Doctor or any P which would probably make sense, but I believe Drew and if I am as right as I think I am then, we do not need to sort him until much later.
Given this revelation, I think I have narrowed down are scumspect pool considerably... This is the solve that I began to formulate after Drew claimed.
Doctor Drew
Gamma Emerald
Skygazer
James Braffin
Sakura Hana
Persivul
Chemist1422
Rick Dalton
Formerfish
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These are the currently alive players minus Spangled because mantises are really
tiny
and minus me because Turkeys. Why else would America eat them every year? Based off this, there are 3 scum in those 9 players.
From my perspective, Sakura Hana can only be scum with Chemist, or if she is the Mafia JOAT who used the Ninja kill the first night which would be so highly unlikely. Additionally, Chemist can only be scum if we are not on II. Based off the day play from both of those players, I do not think that they are scum.
Additionally, Drew has claimed to be Doctor. While his play has been super suspect, I do believe the claim and he can be town now.
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Gamma Emerald
Skygazer
James Braffin
Persivul
Rick Dalton
Formerfish
That means there are 3 scum in these 7 people. That's pretty crazy odds for me to hit scum from my perspective. Of course, if Drew is lying the odds are still 3 out of 8, but still. That's nearly 50%.
Based off day play, I think that Skygazer is probably town because she has been genuine and original thoughts on a couple of different things in the game. I do not think that scum would be as dogged about me and my slot or as original with those reads concerning me and Drew. She seems like a lurky type player in that regard. That said, she did say something about an SK which implied SK hunting which is always a scumtell. I have no idea how to read Gamma, but based on his play so far, I think he is more likely to be town than not. With this list, I am going to look through Implosion's ISO to see who he suspects the most.
As it stands though this is my reads list
Town to Scum:
Spangled
Chemist1422
Sakura
Drew
Skygazer
Gamma
Rick Dalton
James Braffin
Formerfish
Persivul
Knowing my luck, I will be wrong about all of this.
I think I am right that the scum are in {Persivul, Formerfish, James Braffin}. I began looking into those three specifically together and I feel I am right because all of their lists have each other as either null or a slight read on way or another which I think is to keep the option open for bussing
For example, James Braffin posts this reads list...
In post 135, James Brafin wrote:Chemist is pinging me. So is Pers, who doesn't seem toe really be adding anything to the gamestate
Implosion strikes me as town-ish, in a "using other's content bot not generating a lot of my own" kinda way. But he's been super active and building off several other players, which I expect from town, not scum.
Jackal I can't sort yet. Not enough info.
Korina and The Worst are both obviously scum.
Arch is... odd. I'd like to see vote reasoning here, but I can't say he's super scummy without it. VERY slight scumread,
Dr. doesn't have enough, but Dry-fit has me concerned. He feels like he's coasting, which I don't feel like is a town thing.
Gamma is fluff-posting, which I find scummy as frick. Speaking of, yes, I prefer RQS.
Phil is maybe town, considering his posts, and Sakura as well. I feel like as scum they both would have pushed harder against me for my bad reasoning, but they didn't try to build that case and that strikes me as townish.
So he got a slight scum read on this, but somehow can't form a read on this
In post 22, Jackal711 wrote:VOTE: Gamma
For using a color that's impossible to read on the dark boards theme. I literally had to open a quote-reply to see what that post said.
@Mod
Please note I'm officially V/LA until next Friday (the 26th) due to a billing/payment issue with my home internet. It should not cause activity issues though, as I can post via my phone which has unlimited data.
Noted.
-Kor
In post 655, Persivul wrote:Not really. More like this, with no particular order within groups::
{Skygazer, James, Sakura}
{Everyone else, for various reasons}
{Phil}
{Thespio}
Of course, I could be totally wrong about all of this and it is what it is, but based off how Fish and Persivul reacted to me pressuring Persivul, I think I am right. I wanted to post an encrypted message saying that Fish would vote me, but then I realized I would probably be modkilled for it. Which honestly at this point, doesn't sound too bad to be freed from a town that 1) isn't playing and 2) isn't reading.
Now that I've claimed though, I won't be able to prove myself until the RB is dead but at that point I'll probably be dead too so, thanks Sakura? Your gambit got the Doctor and the Vigilante to claim. A+ town play right there. If you're mafia, honestly you deserve to win just based off that fact.
I think given the specific setup that I think we have a mass claim today probably wins us the game. We still have a vengeful/pgo and a full cop or tracker out there. I think the PGO should claim, but the vengeful should not (honestly though, vengeful by itself is such a stupid role. It is like a jester and encourages anti-town play despite being a town aligned role).
The full cop or tracker is confirmed town though due to setup spec, again unless, Chemist is mafia, but I don't see it. If we are on PP that other role also becomes conftown. If we have an A that role is also conftown. Really in my mind, we would just start to play this with a bunch of named townies and the moment we hit the roleblocker we probably bulldoze.
Sakura, you can unvote now and vote Persivul.
I will say that your vote set us down that path and I am annoyed with you for that. If this all goes to crap, I do want you to feel guilt for this town loss.
