mini 2093, the search - an interminable period of darkness.

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welcome BOTTOMS.

Mini 2093: The Search

THE PLAYERS:
Pine
cyrus62
Menalque

overki11

skitter30
Skygazer
Elements
Baezu Leaf
123456789
Dr Easy Bake
gobbledygook
PenguinPower
Channel Fireball
Acute Right Obtuse

Spoiler: winners

PINE

, the Town Bandit Sentry, holds the crown jewel and wins the game.

SKYGAZER

, the Town False Whisperer, deceives the prophet and wins the game.

MENALQUE

, the Town Bodyguard, finds the bandits and wins the game.

DR EASY BAKE

, the Town Bodyguard, finds the bandits and wins the game.

ELEMENTS

, the Town Bodyguard, finds the bandits and wins the game.

BAEZU LEAF

, the Town Priest, protects the sanctity and wins the game.

GOBBLEDYGOOK

, the Town Outlaw, remains at large and wins the game.

Spoiler: alive

Pine
skitter30
Skygazer
Menalque
Elements
Baezu Leaf
Dr Easy Bake
gobbledygook
Channel Fireball

Spoiler: dead clowns

cyrus62, the

Mafia Bandit

, died D1
123456789, the

Mafia Empress

, died D2
PenguinPower, the

Town Bandit Guard

, died N2
Acute Right Obtuse, the

Mafia Whisperer

, died D3

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RULES:

Conduct:

-

Know and follow the site rules.

- I prefer questions or V/LA requests by PM. If in-thread, do so on a separate line in bold.
- Don’t post if you’re dead.
- Don’t use

my color, #BF00FF

or impersonate me.
- I should be able to readily see all communication. (No untitled spoilers, obfuscation, discussing game outside of approved areas, etc.)

Playing the Game:

- Post about every 48 hours or prod. 3 prods or 24 hours after a prod and I will resort to replacement and if necessary, modkill.
- 14 day Day Phases. 48 hour Night Phases.
- Majority vote leads to lynch. Majority to vote "no lynch" leads to no lynch. No majority leads to no lynch.

Notes:

- I will do my best to be fair if rules change. I reserve the right to make a judgment on any attempts to break the game or abuse a loophole.
- If you don't address me as O Glorious Mod I will modkill you instantly. Just kidding, but thanks for actually reading the rules.
- Games get heated, but I will interfere if I consider the limit to be crossed.
- If you aren’t sure whether or not something will violate the rules, ask.
- If you see someone violating the rules, let me know.

Playing The Search:

- This game sucks, both balance and mechanics wise. You will hate it. Most of you will not win. I'm not sorry. Be warned.
- The setup consists of only two factions: town and mafia.
- Each player has a separate win condition that they MUST fulfill in addition to their factional win condition to win.
- This game does not flip role PMs. If someone dies you learn their alignment and role name.
- If you do not gain access to a dead thread when you die, it is intentional.

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role pms are out. get at em. we start in 24 hours or when everyone has confirmed

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vote count 1.0

Not Voting

(13): Pine, cyrus62, 0verki11, skitter30, Skygazer, Elements, Baezu Leaf, 123456789, Dr Easy Bake, gobbledygook, PenguinPower, Channel Fireball, Acute Right Obtuse

(expired on 2019-08-17 06:30:00)

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This game sucks, both balance and mechanics wise. You will hate it. Most of you will not win. I'm not sorry. Be warned.

Keep this in mind and don't take too serious

vote count 1.1

Acute Right Obtuse

(3): gobbledygook, Pine, PenguinPower

Pine

(1): Acute Right Obtuse

Not Voting

(9): cyrus62, 0verki11, skitter30, Skygazer, Elements, Baezu Leaf, 123456789, Dr Easy Bake, Channel Fireball

(expired on 2019-08-17 06:30:00)

edit: Missed the vote on Pine. edited to reflect.

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hello sluts

vote count 1.2

Acute Right Obtuse

(5): gobbledygook, Pine, PenguinPower, Baezu Leaf, Channel Fireball

123456789

(2): Dr Easy Bake, Skygazer

Pine

(1): Acute Right Obtuse

skitter30

(1): 123456789

Not Voting

(4): cyrus62, 0verki11, skitter30, Elements

majority is 7
(expired on 2019-08-17 06:30:00)

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i stealth edited it

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okay then SEE YA TOMORROW : )

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votecount 1.3

Acute Right Obtuse

(5): Pine, PenguinPower, Baezu Leaf, Channel Fireball, gobbledygook

123456789

(2): Dr Easy Bake, Skygazer

Channel Fireball

(2): Elements, Acute Right Obtuse

cyrus62

(1): skitter30

skitter30

(1): 123456789

Not Voting

(2): 0verki11, cyrus62

majority is 7
(expired on 2019-08-17 06:30:00)

LET ME POST GOSH
PLEASE!!!!!

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what are you doing here???? go on to the next page!!!!

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Crap. sry mod i was trying to click the orange color and clicked something similar to ur color.

it's different enough -- dont worry about it : ))

votecount 1.4

Acute Right Obtuse

(4): Pine, PenguinPower, Baezu Leaf, gobbledygook

cyrus62

(3): skitter30, Elements, Channel Fireball

123456789

(2): Dr Easy Bake, Skygazer

gobbledygook

(1): 123456789

Not Voting

(3): 0verki11, cyrus62, Acute Right Obtuse

majority is 7
(expired on 2019-08-17 06:30:00)

edit: just kidding. i have decided to migrate the votecount here.

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votec ount 1.5

Acute Right Obtuse

(4): Pine, PenguinPower, Baezu Leaf, gobbledygook

gobbledygook

(2): 123456789, Dr Easy Bake

123456789

(1): Skygazer

Channel Fireball

(1): skitter30

cyrus62

(1): Elements

skitter30

(1): Channel Fireball

Not Voting

(3): 0verki11, cyrus62, Acute Right Obtuse

majority is 7
(expired on 2019-08-17 06:30:00)

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votec ount 1.6

Acute Right Obtuse

(3): PenguinPower, gobbledygook, Dr Easy Bake

cyrus62

(3): Pine, skitter30, Channel Fireball

gobbledygook

(1): 123456789

123456789

(1): Skygazer

Dr Easy Bake

(1): Elements

Not Voting

(4): 0verki11, cyrus62, Acute Right Obtuse, Baezu Leaf

prodding overkill and skygazer

majority is 7
(expired on 2019-08-17 06:30:00)

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votecount 1.7 (final)

cyrus62

(7): Pine, skitter30, Channel Fireball, Skygazer, PenguinPower, gobbledygook, Dr Easy Bake

gobbledygook

(1): 123456789

Dr Easy Bake

(1): Elements

Not Voting

(4): 0verki11, cyrus62, Acute Right Obtuse, Baezu Leaf

cyrus 62 leaves our company today. he was a

Mafia Bandit

.

Night falls. You have (expired on 2019-08-07 16:39:00) to make your actions.

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after the night deadline expires I will freeze the game to find a replacement for 0verki11. However at deadline your night actions will frozen in place as well. Thank you for your patience

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Menalque replaces 0verki11 and the start of day is imminent

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vote count 2.0

Not Voting

(12): Pine, Menalque, skitter30, Skygazer, Elements, Baezu Leaf, 123456789, Dr Easy Bake, gobbledygook, PenguinPower, Channel Fireball, Acute Right Obtuse

7 majority.
chennis head of ARO is V/LA thurs-sat.
(expired on 2019-08-22 09:06:00)

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tbf, EP probably didn't expect this explosion of activity

yes you see i am at WORK.. gosh!

vote count 2.1

123456789

(5): Pine, Elements, Skygazer, PenguinPower, skitter30

Acute Right Obtuse

(2): Channel Fireball, gobbledygook

Not Voting

(5): Menalque, Baezu Leaf, Dr Easy Bake, Acute Right Obtuse, 123456789

7 majority.
chennis head of ARO is V/LA thurs-sat.
(expired on 2019-08-22 09:06:00)

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vote count 2.2

123456789

(4): Pine, Elements, Skygazer, PenguinPower

Acute Right Obtuse

(2): Channel Fireball, gobbledygook

Dr Easy Bake

(2): 123456789, Baezu Leaf

Skygazer

(1): skitter30

Not Voting

(3): Menalque, Dr Easy Bake, Acute Right Obtuse

7 majority.
chennis head of ARO is V/LA thurs-sat.
skitter is V/LA fri-sun.
(expired on 2019-08-22 09:06:00)

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I didn't realise I was part of his claim

imagine me doing an impression of john mulaney doing an impression of mick jagger saying NOT FUNNY!!!! except in a way that suggests that i still think its a little bit funny

vote count 2.3

123456789

(5): Pine, Elements, Skygazer, PenguinPower, gobbledygook

Dr Easy Bake

(2): 123456789, Baezu Leaf

Acute Right Obtuse

(1): Channel Fireball

Skygazer

(1): skitter30

Not Voting

(3): Menalque, Dr Easy Bake, Acute Right Obtuse

7 majority.
chennis head of ARO is V/LA thurs-sat.
skitter is V/LA fri-sun.
(expired on 2019-08-22 09:06:00)

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NOHT FUNNEEYYYY

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lol

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vote count 2.4

123456789

(5): Pine, Elements, Skygazer, PenguinPower, gobbledygook

Dr Easy Bake

(2): Baezu Leaf, 123456789

Acute Right Obtuse

(1): Channel Fireball

Channel Fireball

(1): skitter30

Not Voting

(3): Menalque, Dr Easy Bake, Acute Right Obtuse

7 majority.
chennis head of ARO is V/LA thurs-sat.
skitter is V/LA fri-sun.
(expired on 2019-08-22 09:06:00)

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vote count 2.5

123456789

(5): Elements, PenguinPower, gobbledygook, Baezu Leaf, Dr Easy Bake

Acute Right Obtuse

(2): Channel Fireball, Skygazer

Dr Easy Bake

(1): 123456789

Not Voting

(4): Menalque, Acute Right Obtuse, skitter30, Pine

7 majority.
chennis head of ARO is V/LA thurs-sat.
skitter is V/LA fri-sun.
(expired on 2019-08-22 09:06:00)

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vote count 2.6

123456789

(4): Elements, PenguinPower, gobbledygook, Dr Easy Bake

Acute Right Obtuse

(2): Channel Fireball, Skygazer

Channel Fireball

(2): Baezu Leaf, Menalque

Dr Easy Bake

(1): 123456789

Not Voting

(3): Acute Right Obtuse, skitter30, Pine

7 majority.
skitter is V/LA fri-sun.
(expired on 2019-08-22 09:06:00)

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vote count 2.7

Channel Fireball

(5): Baezu Leaf, Menalque, skitter30, gobbledygook, 123456789

123456789

(2): PenguinPower, Dr Easy Bake

Acute Right Obtuse

(2): Channel Fireball, Skygazer

Skygazer

(1): Acute Right Obtuse

Not Voting

(2): Pine, Elements

7 majority.
(expired on 2019-08-22 09:06:00)

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vote count 2.8

123456789

(6): PenguinPower, Dr Easy Bake, gobbledygook, Elements, Menalque, Channel Fireball

Channel Fireball

(3): Baezu Leaf, skitter30, 123456789

Acute Right Obtuse

(1): Skygazer

Skygazer

(1): Acute Right Obtuse

Not Voting

(1): Pine

prodding dr easy bake
7 majority.
(expired on 2019-08-22 09:06:00)

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AHEWRGAERHATEHOJ

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vote count 2.9

123456789

(7): PenguinPower, Dr Easy Bake, gobbledygook, Elements, Menalque, Channel Fireball, Skygazer

Channel Fireball

(3): Baezu Leaf, skitter30, 123456789

Not Voting

(2): Pine, Acute Right Obtuse

7 majority.
(expired on 2019-08-22 09:06:00)

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vote count 2.10

123456789

(9): PenguinPower, Dr Easy Bake, gobbledygook, Elements, Menalque, Channel Fireball, Skygazer, skitter30, Acute Right Obtuse

Channel Fireball

(2): Baezu Leaf, 123456789

Not Voting

(1): Pine

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Hi everyone.
123456789 was the

Mafia Empress

.

Although I am not opposed to the hammer in itself, based on a question and subsequent answer that Acute Right Obtuse and I had a short period of time before his scumclaim, he has unambiguously and knowingly crossed the line into modkill territory by scumclaiming and thus breaking the rules.

Perhaps it is irresponsible of me to confirm that ARO is scum here, but I think it is justified in order to reach a conclusion that is fair for as many people as possible. First and foremost, I believe it can be acknowledged by everyone that for various reasons, this game state is irredeemable. Here is the proposed course of action.

1. I will leave the thread locked for (expired on 2019-08-14 19:44:00).

2. People are free to send in their night actions during this time. They are also free to express their displeasure with the setup / with others / with me. I have (in my opinion legitimate) defenses of most of the criticisms about this setup and I would be very open to discussing it post game.

3. On that note, people are also free to let me know if they do not wish to continue playing this game. I officially absolve you of playing it. Remember to floss.

4. Assuming and hoping that at least some people are interested in letting this play out for whimsy's sake, in this case I will let the game play out until its natural end, be present to track votes and resolve actions. In line with the above point, I will not be enforcing prod timers.

5. Modkilling ARO has the potential to unfairly deny a rightful win to some, and so keeping in mind that ARO has no chance to win, I will refrain from mechanically doing so unless a series of extraordinarily unlikely events unfold.

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PenguinPower died Night 2 and was a

Town Bandit Guard

.

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vote count 3.0

Not Voting

(10): Pine, skitter30, Skygazer, Menalque, Elements, Baezu Leaf, Dr Easy Bake, gobbledygook, Channel Fireball, Acute Right Obtuse

(expired on 2019-08-29 07:15:00)

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vote count 3.1

Acute Right Obtuse

(2): Skygazer, Elements

Not Voting

(8): Pine, skitter30, Menalque, Baezu Leaf, Dr Easy Bake, gobbledygook, Channel Fireball, Acute Right Obtuse

(expired on 2019-08-29 07:15:00)

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mod, are we allowed to ask deb how many sentences there are explaining each ability?

no.

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you're welcome : )

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Yeah. Town wins, we’re just hashing out individual wincons

Allow me to clarify my intentions with the post I made at the end of the last Day. I decided that ARO, having knowingly broken the rules by playing against wincon (a clear scumclaim and providing significant evidence that they were scum with the hammer and other comments), potentially merited a modkill.

I preferred the option of accelerating the game to its end instead of letting it play out because of the completely compromised nature of the game state and frustration of many of the players, in particular ARO. As I heavily implied in the first post, you can consider this functionally a

town win by modkill

-- however, I thought that some people would want to continue playing to achieve their wincons. So this is a middle-ground solution in which people can choose to continue playing if they want.

I hope all of you can understand my position here.

vote count 3.3

Acute Right Obtuse

(4): Skygazer, Elements, gobbledygook, skitter30

Dr Easy Bake

(1): Channel Fireball

Not Voting

(5): Pine, Menalque, Baezu Leaf, Dr Easy Bake, Acute Right Obtuse

(expired on 2019-08-29 07:15:00)

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vote count 3.4

Acute Right Obtuse

(6): Skygazer, Elements, gobbledygook, skitter30, Baezu Leaf, Pine

Dr Easy Bake

(1): Channel Fireball

Not Voting

(3): Menalque, Dr Easy Bake, Acute Right Obtuse

Acute Right Obtuse died D3. They were a

Mafia Whisperer.

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ENDGAME HAS BEEN REACHED.

THE FOLLOWING PLAYERS ARE TOWN AND HAVE FULFILLED THEIR FACTIONAL WINCON:

Pine
skitter30
Skygazer
Menalque
Elements
Baezu Leaf
Dr Easy Bake
gobbledygook
Channel Fireball

THE FOLLOWING PLAYERS ARE TOWN AND HAVE FULFILLED THEIR FACTIONAL WINCON POSTHUMOUSLY:

PenguinPower

THE FOLLOWING PLAYERS ARE SCUM AND HAVE FAILED TO FULFILL THEIR FACTIONAL WINCON:

cyrus62
123456789
Acute Right Obtuse

If you have an Endgame action, you must submit it within (expired on 2019-08-18 12:32:00).\
If everyone with an Endgame action votes for accelerated night, the game will end.

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PINE

, the Town Bandit Sentry, holds the crown jewel and wins the game.

SKYGAZER

, the Town False Whisperer, deceives the prophet and wins the game.

MENALQUE

, the Town Bodyguard, finds the bandits and wins the game.

DR EASY BAKE

, the Town Bodyguard, finds the bandits and wins the game.

ELEMENTS

, the Town Bodyguard, finds the bandits and wins the game.

BAEZU LEAF

, the Town Priest, protects the sanctity and wins the game.

GOBBLEDYGOOK

, the Town Outlaw, remains at large and wins the game.

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Spoiler:

Welcome to the game, [NAME].
You are a

Town Bandit Sentry

. You win when all threats to town are dead, and there is at least one member of town alive.

Bandit's Den

: You have access to a neighborhood of the Bandits. You know that all the Bandits have the modifier

Highway Robbery.

Night Watch

: Once during the game, you can choose another target during the night. You will be informed of anyone who visited this target.

Highway Robbery

: You know that [NAME] is the empress, who at the start of the game holds the crown jewel. The holder of the crown jewel can only be killed by lynch, and the crown jewel transfers to any person who places the hammer vote. You know that the other bandits also have this modifier.

You must have held the crown jewel at some point to win.

Your neighborhood is here. [LINK] The members of the bandits are [NAME], [NAME], and [NAME].

Welcome to the game, [NAME].
You are a

Town Bandit Guard

. You win when all threats to town are dead, and there is at least one member of town alive.

Bandit's Den

: You have access to a neighborhood of the Bandits. You know that all the Bandits have the modifier

Highway Robbery.

Interrogate

: Once during the game, you can choose another target during the night. You will simultaneously protect this target from a kill and prevent this target from taking any night actions.

Highway Robbery

: You know that [NAME] is the empress, who at the start of the game holds the crown jewel. The holder of the crown jewel can only be killed by lynch, and the crown jewel transfers to any person who places the hammer vote. You know that the other bandits also have this modifier.

You must have held the crown jewel at some point to win.

Your neighborhood is here. [LINK] The members of the bandits are [NAME], [NAME], and [NAME].

Welcome to the game, [NAME].
You are a

Town Bounty Hunter

. You win when all threats to town are dead, and there is at least one member of town alive.

On the Hunt

: Every night, you may choose a target to investigate. You will learn this person's role name, but not this person's alignment. You know that one person in the game has the role of Outlaw and has an activated power that will make their role and alignment public.

You must either shoot this person or be on this person's lynching wagon to win.

Go for the Kill

: Once during the game, you may choose a target to shoot. You may do this on a night you investigate.

Welcome to the game, [NAME].
You are a

Town Outlaw

. You win when all threats to town are dead, and there is at least one member of town alive.

Bribe the Magistrate

: Once during the game, you may choose to activate this power. Your role and alignment will become public, but your modifiers will not be revealed.

Make It Out Alive

:

You must survive to endgame to win.

Welcome to the game, [NAME].
You are a

Town Royal Bodyguard

. You win when all threats to town are dead, and there is at least one member of town alive.

Art of Combat

: At the start of the game, choose one:

Offensive Stance

- Once during the game, you may choose a target to investigate, living or dead. You will be informed about what this person needs to do to achieve their role's wincon.

Defensive Stance

- If someone targets you with a power during the night, you will be informed and be able to use this power at any point during the following day. Alternatively, you may choose a target during the day, and that power will be given to them for use on the following night.

Catch the Bandits

: You know that there are three bandits working together in the game. If you exit the game (either when you are killed, lynched, or the end of the game is reached), you must submit your guesses for the identities of the three bandits.

You must be entirely correct to win.

Welcome to the game, [NAME].
You are a

Town Royal Bodyguard

. You win when all threats to town are dead, and there is at least one member of town alive.

Art of Combat

: At the start of the game, choose one:

Offensive Stance

- Once during the game, you may choose a target to investigate, living or dead. You will be informed about what this person needs to do to achieve their role's wincon.

Defensive Stance

- If someone targets you with a power during the night, you will be informed and be able to use this power at any point during the following day. Alternatively, you may choose a target during the day, and that power will be given to them for use on the following night.

Catch the Bandits

: You know that there are three bandits working together in the game. If you exit the game (either when you are killed, lynched, or the end of the game is reached), you must submit your guesses for the identities of the three bandits.

You must be entirely correct to win.

Welcome to the game, [NAME].
You are a

Town Royal Bodyguard

. You win when all threats to town are dead, and there is at least one member of town alive.

Art of Combat

: At the start of the game, choose one:

Offensive Stance

- Once during the game, you may choose a target to investigate, living or dead. You will be informed about what this person needs to do to achieve their role's wincon.

Defensive Stance

- If someone targets you with a power during the night, you will be informed and be able to use this power at any point during the following day. Alternatively, you may choose a target during the day, and that power will be given to them for use on the following night.

Catch the Bandits

: You know that there are three bandits working together in the game. If you exit the game (either when you are killed, lynched, or the end of the game is reached), you must submit your guesses for the identities of the three bandits.

You must be entirely correct to win.

You are a

Town Prophet

. You win when all threats to town are dead, and there is at least one member of town alive.

Divine Word

: You know that in this game are the Whisperer and the False Whisperer. The False Whisperer will flip as the Whisperer. These two people will PM me a message every night, which you will receive during the following day, consistently marked as "WHISPERER 1" and "WHISPERER 2". Before the day ends, you may PM me two messages for each of the whisperers and I will send your messages to the respective person at day's end.

Search for Truth

:

You must tell me the username of the true Whisperer at endgame to win.

You do not have to be alive.

Welcome to the game, [NAME].
You are a

Town Priest

. You win when all threats to town are dead, and there is at least one member of town alive.

Receive Confession

: Every night, you may choose a target to investigate. You will learn this person's role name, but not this person's alignment. You may not do this on a night you protect. You know that one person in the game has the role of Prophet.

Either you or The Prophet must survive to endgame for you to win.

Provide Sanctuary

: Once during the game, you may choose a target to protect. You may not do this on a night you investigate.

Welcome to the game, [NAME].
You are a

Town Whisperer

. You win when all threats to town are dead, and there is at least one member of town alive.

There is no Truth in Death

: Your role name is the Whisperer. You will flip as such. Your actual role is the False Whisperer.

Prophetic Whisper

: You know that in this game are the Prophet and the true Whisperer. Every night, you must PM me a message. This will be sent to the Prophet. You will receive their response at the end of the following day.

Mislead the Searcher

: At the start of each day, you will also see the message that the true Whisperer sent to the Prophet the previous night. At the end of the game, the Prophet will attempt to divine the identity of the true Whisperer (this will involvecorrectly guessing their username).

The Prophet must be incorrect for you to win.

Welcome to the game, [NAME].
You are a

Mafia Bandit

. You are aligned with the Mafia. You win when mafia compose a majority of the players (or when nothing can prevent this), and there is at least one member of the mafia alive.

Bandit's Den

: You have access to a neighborhood of the Bandits. You know that all the Bandits have the modifier

Highway Robbery.

Highway Robbery

: You know that [NAME] is the empress, who at the start of the game holds the crown jewel. The holder of the crown jewel can only be killed by lynch, and the crown jewel transfers to any person who places the hammer vote. You know that the other bandits also have this modifier.

You must have held the crown jewel at some point to win.

Special Connections

: The Empress is a member of the mafia and does not know that you are a bandit. Role PMs will not be given in your mafia topic. I will not respond to any requests by your team members to post role PMs in your mafia topic. If and only if your team members post role PMs in your mafia topic, you are allowed to post a fake role PM as well.

Criminal Conspiracy

: As a member of the mafia, you have access to factional nightkills. Each member of your team can perform one nightkill, which must conform to the order detailed in your mafia topic. You may also choose not to kill on a certain night.

Your neighborhood is here. [LINK] The members of the bandits are [NAME], [NAME], and [NAME].
Your mafia topic is here. [LINK] The members of the mafia are [NAME], [NAME], and [NAME].

Welcome to the game, [NAME].
You are a

Mafia Whisperer

. You are aligned with the Mafia. You win when mafia compose a majority of the players (or when nothing can prevent this), and there is at least one member of the mafia alive.

Prophetic Whisper

: You know that in this game are the Prophet and the False Whisperer. Every night, you must PM me a message. This will be sent to the Prophet. You will receive their response at the end of the following day.

Lead the Searcher

: At the end of the game, the Prophet will attempt to divine the identity of the true Whisperer.

The Prophet must correctly identify you to win.

Criminal Conspiracy

: As a member of the mafia, you have access to factional nightkills. Each member of your team can perform one nightkill, which must conform to the order detailed in your mafia topic. You may also choose not to kill on a certain night.

Your mafia topic is here. [LINK] The members of the mafia are [NAME], [NAME], and [NAME].

Welcome to the game, [NAME].
You are a

Mafia Empress

. You are aligned with the Mafia. You win when mafia compose a majority of the players (or when nothing can prevent this), and there is at least one member of the mafia alive.

Protect the Throne

: You can only be killed by lynch.

You must reach Day 4 or endgame to win.

Popularity of the Throne

: Your high approval means that it takes two more votes to lynch you. However, if you reach the normal voting threshold and survive to tell the tale, this modifier will go down to one more vote starting the next day. Upon reaching the normal voting threshold again this modifier will disappear.

Court Whispers

: Your enemies may be closer than you expect. Trust no one.

Criminal Conspiracy

: As a member of the mafia, you have access to factional nightkills. Each member of your team can perform one nightkill, which must conform to the order detailed in your mafia topic. You may also choose not to kill on a certain night.

Your mafia topic is here. [LINK] The members of the mafia are [NAME], [NAME], and [NAME].

topics will be released in 48 hours.

[Errantparabola]

some thoughts on the bounty hunter

- the reason that i highlighted kill OR lynch as a wincon is because i believed there was a non-negligible speedwagon strategy, which i think is harder than the bandit strategy but not exceptionally harder (and the bounty hunter has more tools before this even becomes an option). the reason for this is that the IC is

heavily

disincentivized from activating the power as the role PM signals to the IC that going public will severely hinder their wincon. so the IC might wait until L-1, for example.

- actually i think this can be inferred from BOTH role PMs. this kill or lynch dichotomy is the delicate balance i was hoping would be struck -- the bounty hunter has a massive advantage with the vig shot, the outlaw has a massive advantage without the vig shot. of course, the outlaw is not remotely in danger now that bounty hunter claimed the details of their role and decided not to play. And the ARO red herring was something i had also not anticipated. maybe i should have accounted for that in some way?

- in retrospect the bounty hunter is absolutely an unfairly difficult role. in retrospect if i had to give a balance estimate... maybe like, 50 / 40 / 10, or perhaps 47.5 / 37.5 / 15 for outlaw / hunter / no one winning.

- i dont think i gave enough weight to unpredictability as a balance factor. ultimately i think this was my biggest design mistake. i did consider this (the bodyguards don't have to deal with unpredictability, so i made it so they have to outlive the bandits). In any case, imo the oversight for me here is actually something I don't think CF brought up: what if the outlaw was killed by someone else?

- of course, that didn't come up in this game but i absolutely should have considered it anyway. CF is rightfully frustrated but based on their conduct i dont believe i have too much sympathy for them right now.

thoughts on the scum

- also, the scum are calling out the setup as the reason they're fucked which is... maybe true? the setup doesn't account for a scum bandit outright claiming that they are scum to two people who would clearly benefit supremely from killing them and almost guaranteeing their loss. this is when i think the setup cracked in two -- was this an oversight on my part? its really up to you to decide. i dont think it was a possibility i would have EVER considered as remotely likely. personally i feel like scum suiciding is a ridiculous fringe case that just so happened to play out in the hands of a newer player.

- i think the scum is swingy (1, because of the nightkill limit, and 2, because of the empress) and it swung HARD against their favor this time on the nightkill side. there were steps taken to mitigate this empress-side with bulletproof and double loved, which makes the empress extremely hard to lynch for at least a couple days. i think ultimately i have no regrets about the empress design.

thoughts on the bandits

- a big reason why i was fine with the bandit "ass wincon" being harder than others (use the prophet-whisperer dynamic as a comparison point) is because the bandit wincon is not mutually exclusive. you can lynch the empress after d4 OR you can lynch the empress early and try to share the win with as many bandits as possible. on the other hand, say the prophet guesses wrong -- then people win and people lose and that's an inevitable outcome.

- in fact the bandit "win chance" is kind of at the target for me. 50% chance to fulfill personal wincon was the very rough goal that i measured roles against and i do think that it is fair to say that 2 people out of the 4 in this group fulfilling their personal wincon is not a stretch -- i am confident that probabilistically no fewer than 1.5 people win.

- on that note. bodyguards basically autowin. this was another huge oversight. i hadn't taken into account the high likelihood of a massclaim in response to a confusing setup. i thought the lyncher-wincon was enough of a disincentive for bandits to out themselves. i thought that bodyguards having to guess when they die as opposed to at endgame was enough of a balancing factor but i think this role is too waaaay strong still (see my 'unpredictability' error). i'm not too sad about this one either because again, bandits/bodyguards don't have a mutually exclusive dynamic like the others do.

thoughts on the prophet

- weirdly enough, the dynamic that's being complained the least about is the one i'm the least happy with. by far. even though it's like, fair by design -- i think skitter's assumption that the false whisperer is scum is maybe a mistake in resolving ambiguity in my part. skitter's wincon is that she has to guess who is who at the end of the game.

- i hoped that this was enough of a signal that the whisperer dynamic is sort of NAI. and i hope that skitter realizing that the faction win resolves before the guessing happens will make her come to this realization. if i could do this part again, i'd make it random between the two whisperers which one the real one is and explicitly tell this to the prophet. i wanted this to be a mafia-game-inside-a-mafia-game situation instead of a setup spec one.

- as i said i hoped that this would sort of be a 3p lylo situation, but with the extremely limited communication i'm fairly worried that there's not enough strategy to be had there. i tried to mitigate this by allowing the whisperer to receive messages after death (See: why some people can't be added to the dead thread) i also tried to insert some psychological differences into the roles (the main one being the "informed" vs "uninformed" classic mafia dynamic as the false whisperer can see the true whisperer's messages) but i think ultimately, this should probably have been made a hood at least.

thoughts i made a while ago -- they may not be relevant now, i dont remember exactly when this was made.

[Errantparabola]

The answer to your first question: You decided to not play the game and instead start complaining about the setup although I personally believe I signaled to you adequately that you had another possible way to win.

The answer to your second question: My line of thought for cyrus outing the scum was that he had a reason to do so, and I don't think I had probable cause to act on that. When chennis claimed scum my inclination was to call it, which I think I basically did.

[Errantparabola]

Although I will say I wrote that part basically when you were at the height of your frustration, and my response to that was to be frustrated in turn. See the post after that. I've moved past my frustration now, but you are free to complain and/or boycott my future games if you still believe I've been excessively unfair to you.

[Errantparabola]

I mean fireball basically took a break from the site they were annoyed enough at this game. What are you talking about that I "stopped playing"? You mean after the point that the game was unwinnable because all of the scum had scumclaimed?

Like I said, that post was made in response to the series of posts (I don't particularly want to go and dig them up, but I assume then that they were made by Fireball) saying they refuse to play a game that they've already lost and asking other people to lynch you. I'm not being melodramatic -- clearly you have no confidence in me as a moderator and instead of getting excessively upset you are free not to continue playing my games.

[Errantparabola]

I have already mentioned that I would strongly prefer this game not be nominated for its design.

Edit: to clarify, if I have the power to pull it from consideration in response to you nominating it, I will do so.

Edit 2: to clarify further, this is not me implicitly agreeing with Channel Fireball. I personally believe I have more than adequately responded to their specific complaint(s). But yes, I firmly believe this setup does not deserve recognition.

[Errantparabola]

very unfortunately that will never happen :, )

[Errantparabola]

i need to sleep and think on it and there's a reason that i might not want it released and i want to hash it out in my head before i say "yes release pls."

I will be releasing the scum PT regardless but if you want to point me to posts that you want redacted then I will do that

[Errantparabola]

I will continue to reject the premise that bounty hunter was playing a lost game (at least before they claimed). In my opinion the outlaw is primed to believe that outing with severely hurt their wincon by drawing a nightkill. I will concede that the wording of the bounty hunter should have signalled this but I think that I explicitly highlighted the lynch option as a possibility.

I've highlighted the flaws that exists with the role. I think it was a bad role. But you were not in a lost situation. I believe that since your chance to win went down significantly in the course of one night (I'd say, with yet another acknowledgement that bounty hunter is disadvantaged here, probably from >50% to <15%) it

seemed

unwinnable because of the differences of your expectations (that you would kill chennis and win) and reality (chennis was not your target and the kill was blocked).

[Errantparabola]

And I would not blame you if you had decided to disengage with the game (lurk, post less, one head flake as happened) because say, for example, a lone scum player who assesses their situation to be <15% chance of winning may end up doing the same. That was not the source of my frustration.

[Errantparabola]

I could be misinterpreting why you thought it was unwinnable -- that's just my interpretation of things

[Errantparabola]

okay. You're fine

[Errantparabola]

I don't understand that at all. They have no reason not to guess? If it doesn't matter then why would you not want to engage with the content of your role to see if you could get it right?

[Errantparabola]

Yes you raise a good point in this regard i think

[Errantparabola]

No yeah you're definitely right

[Errantparabola]

I think we can consider this game unambiguously a failure