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[popsofctown]

Uncommon Rules

Experienced players are often tempted to skim the rules, so here are the rules unique to popsofctown modding to be aware of.

1. You must play to win the game. This is a common rule, but enforcement is uncommon.
   
2. "Pretending to break a rule is the same as breaking a rule" is included in Common Rules below, but it is particularly important with this rule. It's allowed to claim you are not fighting to win quite as hard as you did last game, but you cannot claim not to be playing to your win at all, even as a tactic that you believe gets you closer to your win condition.
   
3. The above two rules do not constitute a blanket ban on selfvoting or bussing, which often either furthers the wincondition, or in other cases is just a manner of conceding an unwinnable game to the other team.
   
4. If you feel totally unable to play to your win condition due to personal conflicts with other players, please request replacement upon realizing this.
   
5. This game is using a special rule that relates to hammer testing. When you make a vote, (this includes
   special
   votes
   ), you can post,
   in bold
   ,
   I and all members of my faction that are known to me, VOTE: popsofctown and win the game
   . Do not name any other members of your faction. If you've made a mistake and voting together with any/all partners would not win you the game, it will be treated simply as a vote. If you haven't made a mistake, then you will perform votes on behalf of your teammates and win the game.
   
6. The above rule does not work if you do not have the information required to know that it would win the game. For example, if you are Masons with a player and one scum remains among five players, you cannot cause your teammate to vote popsofctown with you. It would only work if you previously investigated popsofctown as guilty in an open setup.

Common Rules

Templated from singletonking, hoping for forgiveness over permission.

1. All site-wide rules apply. In particular:
   No discussion of ongoing games is allowed
   
   
2. All standard rules of Mafia apply. This means:
   1. Do not quote your Role PM or any other PMs from the Mod, real or fabricated.
      
   2. Do not quote private topics.
      
   3. Do not edit or delete your post, even if you have the ability to do so.
      
   4. Do not use encrypted text, small text, bright-coloured text, or otherwise make it hard to see what you are writing.
      
   5. Do not use cryptography or other complex information hiding. If you hide information in a post, it must be based purely on the English letters in that post, without shifting them to different letters based on any kind of rule, and they must be left-to-right.
      
   6. Do not discuss this game outside this thread or PTs related to this game you have access to.
      
   7. Do not use provable randomness. This means no dice tags.
3. Do not fake mod posts/edits.
   
4. Pretending to break a rule is breaking a rule
   
5. Once your death scene is posted, you may not post. No bah posts.
   
6. Be civil to other players. Criticize play, not players. As a rule of thumb, profane nouns or profane adjectives that describe player will start strikes against you; describing actions of a player will not.
   
7. Do not quote or copy/paste from any private thread into any other thread (including the main thread). Please paraphrase instead. However, it is permitted to copy anything from the main thread into any private threads.
   
8. No set of rules can be complete. If you think something is wrong, please don't do it. Breaking the spirit of rules is also disallowed. Do not encourage others to break the rules either. If in doubt, please PM me.
   
9. Breaching of rules will usually result in a warning initially, but depending on severity, may result in a force-replacement or modkill.
   
10. During the course of the game I may add extra rules if necessary. These rule changes will be announced publicly.

Deadlines, Activity, and replacements

1. Day start. Days will last N+2 days, where N is the number of players alive, but no greater than eleven days.
   
2. When not otherwise stated, assume other lynchesque decisions will also follow this formula.
   
3. Nights will last 48 hours.
   
4. Prods will be issued if you do not post for 48 hours.
   
5. If you get three or more prods, or fail to respond to a prod by posting in thread within 24 hours (or by PM if at Night), I will begin seeking for a replacement.
   
6. If you expect to be unable to post for a while, please declare V/LA in thread. Should your V/LA be unreasonably long (>5 days), however, I strongly suggest you request replacement.
   
7. You will still be prodded while on V/LA, but these will not count towards the above three prod limit. An official prod will be sent 24 hours after your V/LA ends if you haven't posted then.
   
8. If a replacement happens at Night, deadline will be paused until a replacement is found.
   
9. If you would like to replace out, please PM me. Do not publicly replace out, discuss about wanting to replace out, threaten to replace out, or persuade/dissuade others from replacing out for any reason other than activity. If you think the mods have not noticed an activity issue, you can PM the me to take not of it, but I will not credit your arguments about whether the activity level is replaceworthy or not.
   
10. Once your replacement request is publicized, it is final. You must cease to post. Inquiries about possibly retaining the slot must be conducted by mod PM.
    
11. Special Activity rules for Undertale SemiOpen: If you have been spared, you do not need to post as frequently, especially in the thread, where you are not allowed to post. However, you must post every 96 hours or you will be prodded, and have 72 hours to pick up your prod. At moderator discrection, Spared PT prods will usually not count for the three strikes rule.

Voting Rules

1. To vote, use heal tags or hurt tags. HEAL: popsofctown, HURT: popsofctown. Removing players from the game in the pacifist route will use vote tags, VOTE: popsofctown, as we select players to go live among the humans where they will probably die if they are wicked. The other two routes will continue to use hurt tags.
   
2. Abbreviations or misspellings in votes will be accepted as long as it is clear who you are voting for.
   
3. Nicknames in votes will be accepted only if they fall into the above categories. Otherwise, nicknames based on other sources such as (but not limited to) avatars, titles and other accounts will not be accepted.
   
4. You can remove your selection by healing or hurting the mod. The UNVOTE: tag will only work in the pacifist core. (I will be skimming the thread for reds and yellows.)
   
5. A strict majority (more than half) of players is required to achieve a kill or sparing.
   
6. Once majority is achieved, it is final, and the Day will end immediately with further votes and unvotes being invalid.
   
7. I will do my best to ensure that each vote count is accurate. Check the vote counts. If I make a grave error I may reset all votes at my discretion.
   
8. If there is no killing or sparing decision by the deadline, the mafia will be privately contacted to make a killing or sparing decision on behalf of the town.

Setup:

Undertale Semi-open

2 Mafia Goons

8 Vanilla Townies

1 Town Character

Each day, town must vote to

Kill

one player (HURT: or VOTE: ) or

Spare

one player (HEAL: ). Votes are made to either Kill a specific player or Spare a specific player, and a player can only have one vote total across both options. Players may vote to spare themselves. (They may also vote to kill themselves.) This is mandatory so if no majority is reached on either option by deadline, plurality wins out. The mafia may kill a player each night. (This does not count as a capital-K Kill for any other mechanics.)

If a player is

Killed

, their role is revealed and they take no further part in the game.

If a player is

Spared

, their role is not revealed, and they are temporarily removed from the game and added to a separate Spared PT. However, they may possibly rejoin the game, when the

Core

is reached. If a mafia member is spared, they may continue to talk in the mafia chat in addition to the Spared PT.

If both mafia members are Killed, town immediately wins. If both mafia members are Spared before the

Core

, mafia immediately wins. Otherwise, the

Core

is reached immediately after the end of Day 4. At this point, one of three things will happen:

Pacifist Route:

If no players were Killed, the game enters the Pacifist Ending. There is no Night 4 kill. If all four Spared players were town, town immediately wins. Otherwise, all players still in the game must vote to Spare a fifth player, after which all the non-Spared players are immediately removed from the game without flipping, and the Spared players are returned to the game. The mafia kill one (Spared) player, and then the game then continues with only the remaining Spared players alive.

Neutral Route:

If at least one player was Spared and at least one player was Killed, the game enters the Neutral Ending. All Spared players rejoin the game, and the number of Spared mafia members (but not their identities) is revealed. The mafia get one kill on Night 4, plus one more if a mafia member was Spared. The game continues with the previous living players and the Spared players both alive.

Genocide Route:

If no players were Spared, the game enters the Genocide Ending. The player with the most LOVE-- that is, the player who was on the most wagons that led to a Kill-- is determined, and the alignment of this player is publicly revealed. (For tiebreaks, see the footnote*) There is no Night 4 factional nightkill. The game continues with no further change.

After the

Core

is reached, regardless of the ending, the game will continue as a normal game of mafia, with lynches and nightkills, and no-lynching allowed. Mafia win at parity, town win by eliminating all mafia.

The possible Town Characters are:

• Toriel: As long as no player has been Killed, Toriel can protect another player from a kill each night before the
  Core
  is reached. If Toriel protects a player from a kill in this way, she can no longer use her ability.
  
• Asgore: If the
  Core
  is reached in a Neutral Route and Asgore is still in the game, he may jailkeep one player each night,
  starting Night 5
  . When a nightkill is prevented as a result of his night action, he is demoted to a doctor.
  
• Undyne: On Night 2, if no player has been Spared, Undyne may choose any player, including herself, to be permanently bulletproof. They are not informed of this. This goes away if a player is ever Spared, or when the
  Core
  is reached.

*LOVE tiebreaks between players on the same number of wagons are: Lowest sum of their positions on the wagons -> On the earliest lynch wagon -> On the earlier position on the earliest Kill wagon they are on. This should resolve all LOVE ties.

Tips on the Setup

Here are some quick look observations about the implications of the mechanics in this setup. These observations were made before roles were assigned.

1. Early claiming from the town power role is detrimental as all of them are vulnerable to a factional nightkill.
   
2. Early crumbing as a town power role and, therefore, as a mafia goon, is potentially powerful.
   
3. Any of the three roles can be fakeclaimed just as easily as the others due to the semiopen nature of the setup. It is better to counterclaim a roleclaim using the role that would best match your play throughout the game, rather than the one that correctly matches the subsetup. None of the claims are testable. The exception to this is that Asgore becomes almost impossible to claim once a night passes with no nightkill.
   
4. Undyning yourself always protects a town-aligned player, but undyning someone else has potential investigative effects.
   
5. The LOVE mechanic can be leashed, but leashing is only beneficial to the extent you get information about a player who had different dayplay. Ruining all the game's dayplay by arguing about a LOVE mechanic leash could not prove worth it's cost. Where there is strong groupthink about where to leash it, this cost is reduced.
   
6. And last, but not least, note that Day4 of the pacifist route might be LyLo, and the mafia already know whether it's LyLo.

Spoiler: Living Players

Five of them (including spared)
Something_Smart
chennisden
Elements
Chemist1422
Adorable

Spoiler: Spared Players

chennisden, Elements, Chemist1422, Something_Smart, Adorable

Spoiler: Players pounded into white pixel vapor

Gamma Emerald, DrDolittle, Emperor flippyNips

Spoiler: Schrodingered Players

Oversoul, Dr Easy Bake, volxen

Spoiler: Journeying players

Zero of them

Game links:
Day 1 decision
Day 2 decision
Day 3 decision
Day 4 decision
Special Spare decision

[popsofctown]

Something_Smart
Gamma Emerald
chennisden
Elements
Oversoul
DrDolittle
Dr Easy Bake
volxen
Chemist1422
Adorable
Emperor flippyNips

A more formal "Alive/Dead" list is coming later today.

[popsofctown]

Votecount 1.1

Kill votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Gamma Emerald -------(0)
chennisden ------------(0)
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(1) volxen
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Spare votes:

Something_Smart -----(2) Something_Smart, Elements
Gamma Emerald -------(0)
chennisden ------------(1) chennisden
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Voting for a Kill:

:

volxen

Voting for a Spare:

: Something_Smart, Elements, chennisden

Not voting at all:

Gamma Emerald, Oversoul, DrDolittle, Dr Easy Bake, Chemist1422, Adorable, Emperor flippyNips.

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to make a choice.

[popsofctown]

UNVOTE:

[*]You can remove your selection by healing or hurting the mod. The UNVOTE: tag will only work in the pacifist core. (I will be skimming the thread for reds and yellows.)

[popsofctown]

Votecount 1.2

Kill votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Gamma Emerald -------(0)
chennisden ------------(0)
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(1) volxen
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Spare votes:

Something_Smart -----(3) Something_Smart, Elements, Dr Easy Bake
Gamma Emerald -------(0)
chennisden ------------(1) chennisden
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Voting for a Kill:

:

volxen

Voting for a Spare:

: Something_Smart, Elements, chennisden, Dr Easy Bake

Not voting at all:

Gamma Emerald, Oversoul, DrDolittle, Chemist1422, Adorable, Emperor flippyNips.

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to make a choice.

Deadline: (expired on 2019-08-16 10:00:00)

[popsofctown]

Votecount 1.3

Kill votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Gamma Emerald -------(0)
chennisden ------------(1) Oversoul
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(1) volxen
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Spare votes:

Something_Smart -----(3) Something_Smart, Elements, Dr Easy Bake
Gamma Emerald -------(0)
chennisden ------------(1) chennisden
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Voting for a Kill:

:

volxen, Oversoul

Voting for a Spare:

: Something_Smart, Elements, chennisden, Dr Easy Bake

Not voting at all:

Gamma Emerald, DrDolittle, Chemist1422, Adorable, Emperor flippyNips.

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to make a choice.

Deadline: (expired on 2019-08-16 10:00:00)

[popsofctown]

You're not required to vote the mod to change your vote, even if your vote is transitioning across the two types of votes. You're only required to vote the mod to put yourself in a state where you are not voting anything at all.

[popsofctown]

Votecount 1.4

Kill votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Gamma Emerald -------(0)
chennisden ------------(1) Oversoul
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Spare votes:

Something_Smart -----(2) Something_Smart, Dr Easy Bake
Gamma Emerald -------(0)
chennisden ------------(4) chennisden, Elements, volxen, Adorable
Elements -------------(1) Chemist1422
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Voting for a Kill (1):

:

Oversoul

Voting for a Spare (7):

: Something_Smart, Elements, chennisden, Dr Easy Bake, Adorable, Volxen, Chemist1422

Not voting at all(3):

Gamma Emerald, DrDolittle, Emperor flippyNips.

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to make a choice.

The idea that a little newbie could play her first game, then learn enough about mafia to moderate her first game in just eleven short years.
It fills you with DETERMINATION!

Deadline: (expired on 2019-08-16 10:00:00)

[popsofctown]

Locked

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Votecount 1.Final

Kill votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Gamma Emerald -------(0)
chennisden ------------(0)
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Spare votes:

Something_Smart -----(2) Something_Smart, Dr Easy Bake
Gamma Emerald -------(0)

chennisden ------------(6) chennisden, Elements, volxen, Adorable, Oversoul, Gamma Emerald

Elements -------------(1) Chemist1422
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Voting for a Kill (0):

:

Voting for a Spare (9):

: Something_Smart, Elements, chennisden, Dr Easy Bake, Adorable, Volxen, Chemist1422

Not voting at all(2):

DrDolittle, Emperor flippyNips.

The monsters decided that chennisden seemed kind and goodhearted. When his name turned yellow, they decided to

[SPARE]

him. But with all the uncertainty and danger still in the air, they decided he would be safer elsewhere, so they told him to scamper into the rooms beneath Alphys's lab where he will be safe.

Please submit any night actions you may have by PM or PT.

Deadline:(expired on 2019-08-08 19:00:00)

RULE CHANGE

The original rules for the game, taken literally, would replace every member of the spared PT repeatedly.
When creating the spared PT, I realized this, and that it is reflective of overlooking it in rules design entirely, rather than being a quaint anomaly.
A new rule regarding the activity requirements of spared players has been added to the opening post. While living players' the 48 hour prod timer balances game progression and slot integrity, the players in the spared PT have no direct impact on game progression by virtue of this setup's design, so the values skew more heavily towards slot integrity.

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A question I thought of, to pre-empt: The pacifist 5th special spare, should it occur, will be treated as its own special day with a full deadline (N+2 days).
Less hullabaloo for this since it is intuitive and not really as much a rules change, more like a value I left undefined.

I have a V/LA Thursday through Sunday, so you'll be getting phone modding.

[popsofctown]

"Are you a wizard, like me? Or are you one of the more troublesome monsters that are the reason why things have been more tense lately?"

"Come now, don't come striking at me like that. I can show you I'm one of the good monsters. I'll show you maaaaaaaaaaagic"

"Well, this isn't going well at all, but I don't think you'll get past these orbs. Never understimate the power of magic!"

Gamma Emerald

who was a

Town Madjick, Vanilla Townie

, was murdered Night 1.


Who would do this? Who would bring evil into our peaceful city of monsters? There's no magic left to tell us.

[popsofctown]

With 9 in play, it take 5 votes to make a decision

[popsofctown]

Votecount 2.0

Kill votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Spare votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)

Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(3) - Elements, Something_Smart, Oversoul
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Voting for a Kill (0):

:

Voting for a Spare (3):

: Elements, Something_Smart, Oversoul

Not voting at all(5):

DrDolittle, Emperor flippyNips, volxen, Adorable, Dr Easy Bake, Chemist1422

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to make a choice.

The idea that you can connect with friends who also like deception games, even when you are travelling far from home. . .
It fills you with DETERMINATION!

Deadline: Deadline display omitted for now due to VLA

[popsofctown]

Yes Chemist, I double checked before posting and caught it on the triple check just after posting, and editted. The original unvote was valid.
Phone modding is NP hard

[popsofctown]

Votecount 2.0

Kill votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Spare votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)

Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(3) - Elements, Something_Smart, Oversoul
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Voting for a Kill (0):

:

Voting for a Spare (3):

: Elements, Something_Smart, Oversoul

Not voting at all(5):

DrDolittle, Emperor flippyNips, volxen, Adorable, Dr Easy Bake, Chemist1422

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to make a choice.

The idea that you can connect with friends who also like deception games, even when you are travelling far from home. . .
It fills you with DETERMINATION!

Deadline: Deadline display omitted for now due to VLA

Quoting myself for pagetopping effects. No change to votecount.

[popsofctown]

Votecount 2.1

Kill votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Spare votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)

Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(2) - Elements, DrDolittle
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Voting for a Kill (0):

:

Voting for a Spare (2):

: Elements, DrDolittle

Not voting at all(6):

Something_Smart, Oversoul, Emperor flippyNips, volxen, Adorable, Dr Easy Bake, Chemist1422

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to make a choice.

The hope of even cheaper prices on Nice Ice tomorrow...
It fills you with DETERMINATION!

Deadline: Deadline display omitted for now due to VLA

[popsofctown]

Votecount 2.2

Kill votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Spare votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)

Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(2) - Elements, DrDolittle
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Voting for a Kill (0):

:

Voting for a Spare (2):

: Elements, DrDolittle

Not voting at all(6):

Something_Smart, Oversoul, Emperor flippyNips, volxen, Adorable, Dr Easy Bake, Chemist1422

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to make a choice.

Meeting a new character from Undertale each time a player dies..
It fills you with DETERMINATION!

Deadline: Deadline display omitted for now due to VLA

[popsofctown]

mod can a spared PR still use their power from the spared room to affect non-spared players?

Yes

[popsofctown]

Toriel and Asgore are informed immediately when their power is affected by successfully preventing a kill. Undyne won't ever receive any mod communication of the kind.

Mafia can never target a spared player with the factional nightkill.

If both mafia are spared, they can target unspared players with the factional nightkill.

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Votecount 2.3

Kill votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Spare votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(3) - Elements, DrDolittle, Adorable
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Voting for a Kill (0):

:

Voting for a Spare (3):

: Elements, DrDolittle, Adorable

Not voting at all(6):

Something_Smart, Oversoul, Emperor flippyNips, volxen, Dr Easy Bake, Chemist1422

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to make a choice.

You see a tiny island on a lake. On the island is a family of goats. They look happy.
It fills you with determination.

Deadline: (expired on 2019-08-19 12:00:00)

[popsofctown]

Toriel and Asgore are informed immediately

when their power is affected

by successfully preventing a kill. Undyne won't ever receive any mod communication of the kind.

On hindsight I realize that this might have been too pithy and I should make sure this is clear, since I was asked a "yes" or "no" question that was the "wrong question" and could lead me to misleading players.
I should have included a "no", to "are PRS notified when they heal someone" and please note what I've underlined above.
Toriel and Asgore receive necessary and sufficient information to submit their night actions, and to play the preceding day phase anticipating the use of their night action. This information triggers off of "healing" someone for both roles, but what triggers the mod PM is the real change in anticipated night actions, not the healing itself.
Examples where Toriel or Asgore can successfully heal and not affect their power:
-Toriel successfully heals Night 3, but she will lose her protect at the Core anyway
-Asgore successfully protects a player in his doctor form. He does not receive a PM downgrading him from a doctor to a doctor, he is told nothing because he should anticipate the same type of night action again.

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lock

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Votecount 2.Final

Kill votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Spare votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(5) - Elements, DrDolittle, Adorable, Oversoul, Chemist1422
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Voting for a Kill (0):

:

Voting for a Spare (5):

: Elements, DrDolittle, Adorable, Chemist1422, Oversoul

Not voting at all(4):

Something_Smart, , Emperor flippyNips, volxen, Dr Easy Bake

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to make a choice.

You see a pie that was made fresh for you. You didn't help make it. But you can have some anyway.
You're filled with determination.

The monsters decided that Chemist1422 seemed goodhearted and decided to spare him. But things seemed tense and dangerous. Especially with all the magic gone.
Everyone encouraged him to give himself a lift over to the rooms under Alphys's lab, where he should be safe

It is now Night 2. Please send in your night actions if you have any.

Deadline: (expired on 2019-08-15 03:00:00)

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"Let me share my lava with you! It has healing powers! I will heal us through all this stress."

"No, don't hurt me! Some of my lava will spill out. You want it. It will feel good."

"Please, spare me, I can heal the other monsters when they get hurt... do you even understand the words I'm saying?"

DrDolittle

, who was

Vulcan, Vanilla Townie

, has been vaporized Night 2.

It is now Day 3. With seven unspared players alive, it takes four votes to make a decision.

The deadline is in eleven days.

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Votecount 3.0

Kill votes:

Something_Smart -----(1) Oversoul
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Spare votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(1) Something_Smart
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0) -
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Voting for a Kill (1):

:

Oversoul

Voting for a Spare (1):

: Something_Smart,

Not voting at all(4):

, Emperor flippyNips, volxen, Dr Easy Bake, Elements, Adorable, Chemist1422

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to make a choice.

The mod is going to start a genocide run tonight.
A mafia setup that has to be replayed to try all its contents, mirrored by a video game that has to be replayed to try all its contents.
It fills you with determination.

Deadline: (expired on 2019-08-25 06:00:00)

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Nice

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Ice

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Votecount 3.0

Kill votes:

Something_Smart -----(1) Oversoul
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Spare votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Elements -------------(1) Emperor flippyNips
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(1) Something_Smart
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Voting for a Kill (1):

:

Oversoul

Voting for a Spare (2):

: Something_Smart, , Emperor flippyNips

Not voting at all (4):

, volxen, Dr Easy Bake, Elements, Adorable

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to make a choice.

The availability of RPGs with gender agnostic protagonists fills you with determination.

Deadline: (expired on 2019-08-25 06:00:00)

Voting rule 8 and the setup description are somewhat disparate but can be harmonized: Voting rule 8 only triggers if the setup description's proscription of plurality voting creates a tie that needs to be broken. The mafia will not be restricted to choosing amongst the tied selections, though, because that's not how voting rule 8 was written.
The deadline is not imminent but such clarifications are ideally made as early as can be.

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Elements has been spared. Night deadline will countdown from now, rather than the date of this post's prettification.

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Votecount 3.Final

Kill votes:

Something_Smart -----(1) Oversoul
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Spare votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Elements -------------(4) Emperor flippyNips, Elements, Adorable, Dr Easy Bake
Oversoul --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(1) Something_Smart
volxen -----------------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Voting for a Kill (1):

:

Oversoul

Voting for a Spare (5):

: Emperor flippyNips, Elements, Adorable, Dr Easy Bake

Not voting at all (1):

volxen

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to make a choice.

The monsters decided that Elements seemed to be good-hearted and decided to spare him. But with so much tension from all the monsters being killed, it seemed he should go somewhere safe. The Vulcan's promise to heal someone if they were injured but not killed was totally gone, even if it was dubious in the first place.
They encouraged Elements to amble into the rooms beneath Alphys's laboratory, where he should be safe.

Deadline: (expired on 2019-08-20 02:00:00)

[popsofctown]

"Ah cool you're too cool for curfews too. They're so dumb. I'm max chill."

"This game needs more action, sparing is boring"

"Wait, no, not me. Come on, killing the guy with sunglasses is too cliche!"

"Tell Snowdrake..... I dig him...."

Emperor flippyNips

who was a

Chilldrake, Vanilla Townie

, has been nightkilled.

With five unspared players alive, it takes three votes to make a decision.

Deadline: (expired on 2019-08-30 02:00:00)

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Votecount 4.0

Kill votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)

Spare votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)

Voting for a Kill (0):

:

Voting for a Spare (0):

:

Not voting at all (5):

Something_Smart, Oversoul, Dr Easy Bake, volxen, Adorable

With 5 unspared alive, it takes 3 votes to make a choice.

Deadline: (expired on 2019-08-30 02:00:00)

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Votecount 4.1

Kill votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(1) Oversoul
volxen -----------------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)

Spare votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)

Voting for a Kill (1):

:

Oversoul

Voting for a Spare (0):

:

Not voting at all (4):

Something_Smart, Dr Easy Bake, volxen, Adorable

With 5 unspared alive, it takes 3 votes to make a choice.

Sans and Papyrus are both made entirely of bones.
Some font technologies are based on storing data about each point to point "penstroke" a certain character is composed of, then rendering that font to the screen based on which pixels touch that "line", which are in practice potentially affected by how the requested font size and the resolution of the display interact. Thus the font itself is nothing but a collection of point to point line segments and joints, just like a skeleton of bones.
Sans and Papyrus cannot appear in this setup but you are somehow filled with determination.

Deadline: (expired on 2019-08-30 02:00:00)

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Votecount 4.Final

Kill votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)

Spare votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Adorable----------------(3) Oversoul, Adorable, volxen

Voting for a Kill (0):

:

Voting for a Spare (3):

: Adorable, volxen, Oversoul

Not voting at all (2):

Something_Smart, Dr Easy Bake

You decided that Adorable seemed to have a good heart. But people have been hurting eachother. You urge her to curl up and rollout underneath Alphys's lab, where she will be safe.
By now, shadows are dripping from the barrier overhead. Some of their maleficent fingers grasp forth towards your group with beckoning fingers, ignoring the rest of the Underground - suggesting someone, different, is in your group.
Meanwhile, a cylinder of shadow seems to be descending on Alphys's lab, too, fumbling with the windows and probing after something it thinks is there. Something about the lab make the dark arm recoil occasionally, while the tendril coming towards the exposed group outside seems rather unstoppable.
The sky is grey and it seems as though it is neither day nor night.

Deadline: (expired on 2019-09-02 02:00:00)

[popsofctown]

THE WIND IS HOWLING

SOMETHING_SMART

->NO ONE

OVERSOUL

----------->NO ONE

DR EASY BAKE

------>NO ONE

VOLXEN

------------->NO ONE

(expired on 2019-09-02 02:00:00)

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THE WIND IS HOWLING

SOMETHING_SMART

->NO ONE

OVERSOUL

----------->SOMETHING_SMART

DR EASY BAKE

------>NO ONE

VOLXEN

------------->NO ONE

(expired on 2019-09-02 02:00:00)

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THE WIND IS HOWLING

SOMETHING_SMART

->SOMETHING_SMART

OVERSOUL

----------->SOMETHING_SMART

DR EASY BAKE

------>SOMETHING_SMART

VOLXEN

------------->NO ONE

As the darkness descends on the group, the group decides to hurl Something_Smart towards Alphys's lab. It looks safer there.

They look up, and cross their hearts, as the dark apparition envelops them all. Is this... death? Or something else? They are so swallowed, nothing can be seen but the eerie black.

It's such a spectacle, in fact, that everyone in Alphys' lab can't help but watch, even from the less safe second floor window. All five of them look out the window, leaning forward to see the spectacle as closely as they can. So far forward... it would only take a nudge...

(expired on 2019-08-25 19:00:00)

This is a 48 hour phase for a special mafia factional action

[popsofctown]

As you are all looking the window, someone - you're not sure who - is heard slapping Chemist1422 from behind.
Chemist1422 tumbles forwards out the window, landing on the ground with a broken neck. Even powerful monsters can be killed when caught unprepared.
Chemist1422's soul lingers for just a moment after death, and you realize that all along it is the soul of

Toriel

.

The shadows that finished consuming the rest of the group are coming towards the lab. You all feel more and more sure that the only way to get them to stop is to guess what they want and give it to them.
It's not lethal, they are just a fog, it's not clear they kill what they cover. But who among you all -would- be lethal? That is probably the best person to kick out.



Deadline will be seven days.
Please use Vote tags. Vote and Hurt tags will both be accepted but I'd prefer vote tags. Heal tags will be ignored.

[popsofctown]

Six days, actually, there are four of you alive.

(expired on 2019-08-31 22:00:00)

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Votecount 5.0

Send someone on an adventure.

Something_Smart (0)
chennisden (0)
Elements (1) - Adorable
Adorable (1) - Elements

The mod's genocide run is nearing its end as this game does.
The suspense of which game will end first.
It fills you with determination.

(expired on 2019-08-31 22:00:00)

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Votecount 5.1

Send someone on an adventure.

Something_Smart (0)
chennisden (0)
Elements (1) - Adorable
Adorable (2) - Elements, chennisden

The mod botched one of the genocide conditions.
The entire game must be restarted.
Gaining several days advantage on racing the mod to game completion..
It fills you with determination.

With four unambiguously alive it take 3 votes to send someone out

(expired on 2019-08-31 22:00:00)

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Votecount 5.2

Send someone on an adventure.

Something_Smart (0)
chennisden (0)
Elements (1) - Adorable
Adorable (1) - Elements

Loki swatted at the Nintendo Switch screen to try to get the protagonist to stop walking along the Snowdin bridge to the next victim for Genocide Route.
He is clearly a pacifist in solidarity with all of you.
It fills you with determination

With four unambiguously alive it take 3 votes to send someone out

(expired on 2019-08-31 22:00:00)

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Votecount 5.3

Send someone on an adventure.

Something_Smart (0)
chennisden (0)
Elements (1) - Adorable
Adorable (2) - chennisden, Elements

A great way to trap one of your friends is to encourage them to walk into a room that has an Employee Entrance, but only a Fire Exit.
This only works if your friend is an employee, but is not made of fire.
This prank idea fills you with determination.

With four unambiguously alive it take three votes to send someone out

(expired on 2019-08-31 22:00:00)

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Votecount 5.Final

Send someone on an adventure.

Something_Smart (0)
chennisden (0)
Elements (1) - Adorable
Adorable (3) - Something_Smart, chennisden, Elements

Determination.

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Spoiler: Game outcome

The group pushed Adorable out of the lab, locking the door behind her. She would be on her own to journey and explore. They felt pretty sure the fog was not seeking something it wished to destroy, so she should be fine.

They walked back into the first floor of the lab. They felt more and more sure that Something_Smart was a pretty good person. Finally, they realized why: Something_Smart was Alphys, a true friend.

"I'm certain Adorable was the problem, but we need to reclaim our friends in the fog. I have a machine that will help us." Something_Smart said, smiling.
"Our souls can power it and send out a signal that dissuades the barrier."

Something_Smart pulled out a funny machine. It seemed to have three levers, covered in electrodes, jutting out from a golden cylinder. Atop it all was a radio dish.

"It takes three people to power."

Alphys pulled one lever, holding it down. A pale white, mystical flow traveled along her body and into the machine. She kept it held down.

"You guys now."

Elements nodded, grabbing a lever. The stream flowed from his body to the machine as well, and the dish began a half hum that signified it was almost at full strength.

"You too", Something_Smart nodded at chennisden, after an adjustment of glasses. With a happy smile, chennisden reached for the lever.

At which point Elements let go of his lever.

"Psyche, you disgusting creatures!
We heard the monsters here were responsible for human deaths. So we ratcheted up the barrier to make its charge unstable, then came in so it'd start reaching for us. It's taken quite a while, but here it comes."

The nasty fog broke through a window. After hearing the harshness of Elements' words, they realized they were looking at a human - and had been, all this time.

"It's harmless to me, and it didn't harm volxen either. As for you - well becoming part of the barrier that keeps the underground empty forever doesn't leave you altogether purposeless, does it? But it definitely helped that you brought me to the geographic center of the underground. It helped the slaughter be so total and complete."

The monsters panic, and look for places to run, but the fog is at every window. Elements doesn't chase them; he throws his head back, laughing and laughing and laughing. "And this is my first time taking on a quest for the village! volxen has lots of EXP and LOVE, but he let me perform every kill!"

Elements' laughter grows more and more maniacal yet inaudible, as their existence is absorbed into the monolithic construct and they gradually cease attunement of any of their senses, except for a new one: sensing the proximity of the nearest souls.

Adorable

was made to learn that It's Too Dangerous To Go Alone!

Something_Smart

has been endgamed!

chennisden

has been endgamed!

Congratulations to

volxen and Elements

, the winners of Undertale SemiOpen! Well played to

Adorable, chennisden, Dr Easy Bake, DrDoLittle, Oversoul, Something_Smart, Gamma Emerald, Chemist1422, and Emperor flippyNips

, the losers of Undertale SemiOpen!

[popsofctown]

Spared PT: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=80527

Dead PT: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=80520

[popsofctown]

Need one more consent for Mafia PT release.

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Thank you everyone for playing in my first moderated game! I was very happy with the activity level, replacement percentage, and general win effort.

I thought this setup would be awesome. For the most part it seemed awesome.

Fun fact, the special Spare PT deadline was never used, but someone came within four hours of getting the no penalty prod! Everyone voluntarily used the Spare PT to gamesolve which I mostly expected.

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volxen disagreed with that assessment and honestly it may have directly impacted his win% since an Oversoul push looked very viable D2

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Two posts I made from the dead PT, I would like to highlight specifically

The reason for the anomaly with Toriel's ability, which had to do with impartiality and conscientious modding:
viewtopic.php?p=11182343#p11182343

And a new fork of the setup I'm interested in which I will be posting in Open Setup discussion soon (perhaps to be ripped apart we'll see):
viewtopic.php?p=11196796#p11196796

I apologize to the scumteam for having to play around extra Toriel shots. The interpretation was based on balancing in favor of the scum faction in general, but in practice for the particular run of the setup harmed them.

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Do you mean, what does the Alphys PR that S_S designed, that was excluded from my first run of the setup do

or do you mean, what was the flavor for the town win written like?

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She spares an extra player when the core is reached. I kind of don't get how it's helpful really. Maybe S_S can explain how it is.

[popsofctown]

Elements has a 100% scum winrate

[popsofctown]

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=80514 Mafia PT

[popsofctown]

She spares an extra player when the core is reached. I kind of don't get how it's helpful really. Maybe S_S can explain how it is.

Yeah it's kinda a convoluted mess at this point but if the core is reached in Pacifist she gets to spare another player if she isn't killed that night.

It's helpful because it gives town another mislynch in Core.

Let's move any discussion on that to the Open Setup thread (which all players are welcome to come to).

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Pops you dang troll

I thought I didn't mod that bad

[popsofctown]

Told Volxen to stop trolling me in the dead thread and then you go and troll me in the dead thread

I see u

It's MariaR's fault for giving me this limitless power

[popsofctown]

I kinda thought S_S would be a good "kill the unpredictable" kill

[popsofctown]

Gamma did you not have fun?

[popsofctown]

I WHITE KNIGHTED HIM SO HARD

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wh.ew!