The Mod lies!!!
We didn't go to Sea Uni for 8 years for you to diss us like this.
We will not stand for this!
Mostly because only 1 of us has legs.
-Fishy
The Mod lies!!!
i shouldn't have used "vague", i wanted to use something like "general", but didn't want to appear to be completely copying skitter, and words are difficult. my point was "scum often feels the need to prepare their posts in game" should not be applied as "scum often feels the need to prepare their posts in rvs".In post 41, Nahdia wrote:....rvs is exactly the time vague scumtells should be applied? because there's not much else to go on?
did you miss the "if" there? i wasn't arguing that, i wanted to see if nahdia would classify your post as "prepared". i wasn't feeling suspicion towards you because you changed a vote in a minute.In post 53, Wooper wrote:i'm sorry you.... thought I faked my vote on you becausw it came a minute later but then lol voted bugslray...In post 42, Fishy Logic wrote:nahdia, wooper's skitt post and vote (6) came after our """bad""" intro, and wooper held that vote for a good minute before switching back to us.ifi were to argue 6 was also "prepared", what do you think?
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so you're ignoring active suspicion on my slot to bash up a null read who is posting badly....
do continue friends I am so curious to see how you're spinning this oje
ok wooperIn post 58, Wooper wrote:if you know bugspray I think you probably know they're unlikely to be blown away from shiptoasting by one (1) pressure vote lolIn post 50, Fishy Logic wrote:yes, while i was waiting for either of you/nahdia to come back and try to give meaning to your votes i decided to pressure the person on this playerlist i have historically had the most accuracy reading thank you for asking
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okIn post 48, Wooper wrote:do you seriously have so few other thoughts that this feels important rn?
early town?
the joke is that while i did read you correctly in both our completed games i'm not pretending to know how to read youIn post 67, skitter30 wrote:??In post 55, Fishy Logic wrote:(arguably i've actually had the most accuracy reading skitter but that's because (1) i townread her in both games we played and (2) she always happened to be town so i'm not gonna put too much stock into that)
holy fuvk the pedits
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In post 37, skitter30 wrote:i mean in general maybe but i'm not sure that applies to meme rvs posts
if anything i would associate 'let me go out of my way to make an rvs meme' with townie behavior than scum behavior
In post 39, Fishy Logic wrote:in my head i'm thinking "you're taking vague scumtells and applying them to rvs when they probably shouldn't be applied there"
i reload the page and see skitt's post saying exactly that
is it too early to start townreading skitter
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i don't know what this meansIn post 79, Wooper wrote:I can see reasons for town reading or scum reading splitter so far this game but I think this is explicitly not alignment indicative, it's like,exactly an expectation of how people approach the game holistically
i played like 4 games w bugs and i read them right in 3/4 (screwed up only in the first game we played in) so i guessIn post 100, skitter30 wrote:dats you think you're good at reading bugspray?
from my limited experience with them i don't think they've done much ai
also i think that dats literally commenting on every single post on p1 cuz he was annoyed is p townie for him too
it doesn't have to make senseIn post 132, skitter30 wrote:i'm not sure votato/nahdia makes senseIn post 119, Fishy Logic wrote:my page two solve was two of bugs/nahdia/votato and i have so far seen nothing that changed my mind
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also is this cuz you're townreading everyone else or
do you think scum is liekly to see a townie scumreading their partner and go "ah yes i sheep that"?In post 136, votato wrote:im starting to feel like nahdia is bait and wooper is scum with bugspray (that scumread on bug is pure sheeping the D)
can you elaborate on the wooper and my slot's read (other than obviously the meme thing)?
Its almost like scum me would have voted Vota for not putting out an rvs vote, and then made noise about how avoiding rvs is scummy and only scummy scummers avoid rvs. Weird, i should take notes for next time so i can play better as scum, I am fucking this one up from the get go.In post 31, skitter30 wrote:in fact i almost think it comes from town more than scum
(not that i think it's inherently townie but the examples i remember offhand seem to have been done by townies)
Why? I don't disagree, but I want to see if im seeing what youre seeing, or if youre blinded by the glint of your horn.
Can you link to where this popped up in a game to make you feel this way?In post 34, Nahdia wrote:eh, ive had the opposite experience. at least that's my memory of it anyway.
While that may be true, scum normally arent the trendsetters in the game because they need to wait and see what the majority of town does before they can id their targets for a mislynch. Like me not questioning Votas lack of an RVS vote, and the lack of a mention on the claim that really doesnt need to be mentioned are both things that scum would have jumped on to muddy the waters and just fling shit to see what stuck. I took the approach I normally do in games and I'm surprised that more people aren't aware of it and still let me get away with it.In post 36, Nahdia wrote:restated, my point is that scum tend to overthink and overprepare, whereas town act more "off-the-cuff".
Nah, shes a good egg to have around as town, i dont know if ive seen her as scum before.
This donkey speaks the truth. You can find it unfunny, but that doesnt make it scummy.In post 45, votato wrote:except another scumtell is not being able to pick up on or appreciate humor, especially rvs humor.
Are you the thought police? In what world do we have to defend what we choose to give our attention to, and especially to you, who has done less then most have in the game at this point?In post 48, Wooper wrote:do you seriously have so few other thoughts that this feels important rn?
Wait, are you saying that you were monopolizing your game time to interact with a high number of players so that you can more accurately discern their alignment in a clear effort to help progress the game and work towards a town shared wincon? Who the fuck taught you how to play? We are supposed to randomly pick someone for a random stupid reason and then stupidly tunnel on them until we force them to out some shit and then we lose the game. Fucking newbies.In post 50, Fishy Logic wrote:yes, while i was waiting for either of you/nahdia to come back and try to give meaning to your votes i decided to pressure the person on this playerlist i have historically had the most accuracy reading thank you for asking
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How do you normally come to your scum reads? The fact that skitt came out of your tet-a-tet with a bad taste towards you makes perfect sense to us. You latched on to a weak as hell low hanging fruit reason to vote us after a few people had naked voted us, so you as scum felt comfortable sliding into that 3rd voting slot and put us at l-2. Now scum probably wouldnt be dumb enough (if you arent scum that is and they werent voting us at the time) to vote and hammer on our mislynch like that, but they could definitely start pushing on us and then shit spirals and you lose out on our sunny disposition for the rest of the game, or until scum decides to kill us at night cause we arent getting lynched.In post 57, Nahdia wrote:i think the alignment indicative stuff is the fact that skitter got a scumread on me out of it.
I dislike your tone towards us. Youre acting like we said that our vote on Bug was going to fucking break him faster than shoving bamboo reeds under his nails, when all Logic said was that he wanted to put pressure there. How else does one put pressure on a slot other than voting it and then trying to engage with it which is clearly what Dat did. Also, how else to wagons start other than 1 vote being made and someone giving a reason why that other people agree with and can get behind?In post 58, Wooper wrote:if you know bugspray I think you probably know they're unlikely to be blown away from shiptoasting by one (1) pressure vote lol
Meh, kinda depends on what your role pm says now doesnt it? Cause if youre town, then youre just bad, if youre scum then you are doing what you need to do to get a mislynch. So i guess, maybe do some soul searching, maybe check your role pm again and if you have green anywhere in there maybe take a step back and let things develop at a more natural pace instead of trying to force evolution by putting your hampster in the microwave.In post 60, Nahdia wrote:i see a disconnect between
"nahdia's tell is bad/ineffective" to "nahdia is scummy".
Yes, that perfectly normal response was hilarious.
dumb question, read contextually.In post 71, Wooper wrote:y early town on skitter
In post 72, skitter30 wrote:- why did you originally say you liked nahdia's post?In post 56, Wooper wrote:objectively same btw I think that you/nahdia convo hits a very boring impasse very quickly w/o revealing ai stuffIn post 43, skitter30 wrote:i associate 'posting meme rvs posts' with 'how much someone likes to post meme rvs posts' over alignment
- it is possible that we have differing views on how scum approach rvs because of different site meta/culture experiences. i wasn't aware that scum had that experience / expectation at taht point in scum history, from my current perspective i think that posts like that are p much nai and that's why i thought it strange to call that scummy
- i disagree with your dats take and how you're framing it
In post 73, Wooper wrote:hardclaim neutral talk show host, I win by asking a whole lotta intrusive questions but avoidimg talking about myself please don't question this very legrimtiate serious claim
Hey look another naked vote! I'm going to call this "The Great OMGUS Vote Of Micro 951, page 4" has a ring to it doesnt it?
Does this come to fruition? Cause i kinda feel you are playing me the same way you did in TreeStump, and I hated that game because of that. You were impossible to work with because you couldnt get out of your own head and away from your paranoia long enough to leave me the fuck alone so i could figure stuff out in the rest of the game.In post 81, Wooper wrote:i'll circle back to this i promies
Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real. Please be real.
Kk, Nahd is totes scum out of those two.In post 88, Wooper wrote:I hate that there's scum in nahdia/skitter
Wait... what?In post 92, Wooper wrote:VOTE: bugspray
So, Wooper, do you know at this point that the gladiate isnt real? Because if it is, your random vote onto Bug spray, you know the guy you were mad at us for pressuring saying one vote wouldnt do anything to him, do you think joining that wagon will now crack him?In post 88, Wooper wrote:I hate that there's scum in nahdia/skitter
If town sees someone take a post and read it in an entirely different way, their first thought isnt "huh, this other fellow townie has become confused, i shouldnt worry about their motivations and just trust that it was an honest mistake that they happily fixed upon finding out the error of their ways" they think, "huh, this is weird, ill push here a little and see what happens. Oh, they doubled down and are now scum reading me for even questioning their motivations and intentions instead of realizing their weak reasoning was weak reasoning and admitting to it. That seems like something scum would do."In post 101, Nahdia wrote:the fact that your mind jumps to "fake" rather than "wrong" doesn't make sense from a town perspective to me.
I couldnt have said it better, so imma let you do it again.In post 108, skitter30 wrote:wut
Maybe 1/2 right, I have an idea about Wooper.In post 113, votato wrote:what do you think of my wooper nahdia solve?In post 112, skitter30 wrote:wooper i follow very little of what you've been posting this game
I can see the nahd indie scum read, and if nahd flips scum I could see a link back to Bug because of the soft defense of our vote on Bug.In post 119, Fishy Logic wrote:my page two solve was two of bugs/nahdia/votato and i have so far seen nothing that changed my mind
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Yee, if someone makes a claim that they can be confirmed, you work under the assumption that they are telling the truth, because its instant death if we find out they lied. Also, if you read between some lines you can see people talking to each other without it being obvious. I also have a theory on the whole thing, but havent fleshed it out with my other head yet and I dont want to talk much about it in case i inadvertently give scum info they didnt have before.In post 138, votato wrote:i dont see scum making that claim so early. its potentially verifiable and will lead to wayyyy too much scrutiny in subsequent days. unless scum has watering abilities and can prevent the IC trigger.
Because eventually we will have more information than we have now and when no flips ever say anything about water and the babyIC is still alive and kicking, we can revisit that claim, but until then fighting someone on an IC claim is beating up town for no gain.In post 164, hari wrote:but why not? like if olorin says 'give me enough water and i will become an ic' and there isn't a water mechanic, what is the risk?In post 162, skitter30 wrote:and @hari claiming something that can make you ic feels like a thing scum probably doesn't do imo?
In post 166, Nahdia wrote:i didnt like the way you buddied up to skitter in 39
Buddying?
Buddying the shit out of Skitter, and not a comment to be seen from you. Guess this is another one of those times where your blinders are restricting your view down that death tunnel youre in.
Guess that Gladiate was fake, Wooper knew before hand im calling it now!In post 175, schadd_ wrote:little johnny is gleefully dancing around in the dunes
Vote count 1.1
Nahdia (3):votato, skitter30, Wooper
Fishy Logic (1):bugspray
hellbooks (1):hari
bugspray (1):Fishy Logic
skitter30 (1):Nahdia
not voting (2):hellbooks, Olórin
with 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. day 1 ends june 29th at 23:59 central US time; in (expired on 2020-06-29 23:59:00)
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- skitter30 is vla on umm.......... friday?? oh and saturday as well.
So you moved it onto the person you harped on us for voting after moving it off you? Is Bug just a way station for our votes when they arent on each other?In post 180, Wooper wrote:to unvote fishy while I processed my feelings
Yeah, but if its a bad one you eventually need to come off it and figure out what running that type of move gets you for information.In post 181, Wooper wrote:taking a stance gets things moving :/
This feels like a forced comment made to solidify Nahd comment which was basically a carbon copy of this one. Also, completely ignores Wooper falling over himself to say hello to the SAME FUCKING PERSON we keep getting accused of buddying.In post 186, hellbooks wrote:Feels like a weird buddying attempt
In post 18, hari wrote:adapting this logic for myself in order to VOTE: hellbooks.
this seems like a fair assumption since hectic was part of the magus hydra from mystery box of silver sevings and olorin's opening here appears to be a direct reference to hectic's opening from mystery box of silver hate:In post 13, bugspray wrote:@Olórin are you hectic
viewtopic.php?p=11736760#p11736760
why?
Odd that somehow you were able to misunderstand a question that I thought was fairly clear.In post 198, Nahdia wrote:i was literally just curious if it was an RVS vote or if you had a reason for it.
Ok, and my other question was when you saw scum make a post like you claim mine was scummy.In post 199, Nahdia wrote:to answer your other question: my own recent scumgame comes to mind (the quote is an obscure pro league of legends meme): viewtopic.php?p=11823595#p11823595
And there are the first posts from the 3 scummers. How are any of the indicative of the post I made? Or did you misunderstand that question as well, and just link to you last scum game?In post 182, Madonna wrote:Heya, it has been ages since I have played, have not looked at the the votes yet so give me a moment before making a crap RVS vote that is not an accidental hammer. Good work getting to page 8.
ok, hammer yourself.In post 212, Nahdia wrote:If I'm lynched today, fine. But you sure as shit power lynch Fishy Logic tomorrow.
How many times did i say I have an idea of what he is doing, and that I was giving him room to work?In post 216, hellbooks wrote:what happened to your shade campaign against wooperIn post 205, Fishy Logic wrote:Oh by the way, scum is probably Hell and Nahd, youre welcome.
Im me, sorry if you dont like me. Doesnt change the fact that youll flip red.In post 218, Nahdia wrote:you're like, really unpleasant, huh?
Right, and if someone is defending someone i know to be town, and the person accusing is spouting the most ankle deep thought process on their vote then I am going to assume one of those people is town and one of them is scum.In post 218, Nahdia wrote:Town doesn't look for people who are bad, they look for scum. You know who is looking for "bad" town? Scum, seeking out mislynches they can push.
Cool story, keep pushing this and see how that turns out for you. I have a sinking feeling for you its not going to be a way youll like.In post 222, Nahdia wrote:Nor does it change the fact that you're blatantly scum who has latched on to pushing a mislynch on what they feel is a "bad" townie.
Probably just sheeping good players in the game.In post 224, hellbooks wrote:idk how i got through all these games w/o reading... my third eye hast been opened
Oh my bad, I was under the impression you made a bad read on us and thought we were scum. Just a miscommunication, if you moved past that bad initial read and were able to read us correctly then there's no issue.In post 226, Nahdia wrote:I'm not still on it. It was a reason to vote on page one, and I got questioned on it so I explained myself.
oops shit my badIn post 200, Fishy Logic wrote:Wait, are you saying that you were monopolizing your game time to interact with a high number of players so that you can more accurately discern their alignment in a clear effort to help progress the game and work towards a town shared wincon? Who the fuck taught you how to play? We are supposed to randomly pick someone for a random stupid reason and then stupidly tunnel on them until we force them to out some shit and then we lose the game. Fucking newbies.In post 50, Fishy Logic wrote:yes, while i was waiting for either of you/nahdia to come back and try to give meaning to your votes i decided to pressure the person on this playerlist i have historically had the most accuracy reading thank you for asking
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is this a townread towards us? if so, can you elaborate?In post 209, hellbooks wrote:these posts were just like kind of unpleasant to read all around + the solve seems to be omgus based. doesn't really change my townread i thinkIn post 200, Fishy Logic wrote:How do you normally come to your scum reads? The fact that skitt came out of your tet-a-tet with a bad taste towards you makes perfect sense to us. You latched on to a weak as hell low hanging fruit reason to vote us after a few people had naked voted us, so you as scum felt comfortable sliding into that 3rd voting slot and put us at l-2.
nobody believe their lies. they know exactly what they did.
this ^^ is literally the only vote she's made in the entire game? and in 175 she's shown as not voting??