Open 787 || Lovers Mafia — Game Over

[word321]

oooh
it has begun
hello ppl
I think i know everyone except innocentvillager

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Never mind what i said earlier about liking you. I actually hate you.

r u crumbing lover, nagatorotan?

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hey hey innocent villager
why dnt we go against Nash?
it sounds like FUN
VOTE: Nash

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Nor do i see that a BM/Deimos wagon would be "100% impossible".

I don't like how you're trying to cast doubt on everything, like you're saying things are possible but that kind of attitude only serves to confuse town into more and more uncertainty. The objective of town is to sort, read, and make the uncertain more certain, not decrease certainty and confuse the town. +1 scumpoints for you

You’re confusing differing playstyles as scummy. I do not play like you, nor will i ever. My towngame is completely different ftom your expectation of the proper conduct.
With that said, i think your way of playing is town indicative. I just dislike your way of doing things, because it allows you to come to wrong conclusions.

should I sl u for this?

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sl->scumlean in my vocabulary; so if u see it in my posts, thats what it is

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Nor do i see that a BM/Deimos wagon would be "100% impossible".

I don't like how you're trying to cast doubt on everything, like you're saying things are possible but that kind of attitude only serves to confuse town into more and more uncertainty. The objective of town is to sort, read, and make the uncertain more certain, not decrease certainty and confuse the town. +1 scumpoints for you

You’re confusing differing playstyles as scummy. I do not play like you, nor will i ever. My towngame is completely different ftom your expectation of the proper conduct.
With that said, i think your way of playing is town indicative. I just dislike your way of doing things, because it allows you to come to wrong conclusions.

should I sl u for this?

Asking if you "should" sl someone is scummy in itself. Light scumpings from your slot.

u just rised both the "u attack me in a newbie way, henceforth town" AND the attack the attacker for making u selfaware of ur mistakes, at the same time!
aint u a lil hedgehog

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in fact I bet it's Nash-Norwegian, Deimos-Norwegian doesn't make sense and neither does Nash-Deimos

i do like this guy

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VOTE: NorwegianboyEE
the only red conclusions I see here r urs tho

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u can ony lynch a scum with 100% townvotes tho

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i bet theres a rly high chance there is scum in nash/deimos just from this

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This is the dumbest push i’ve ever seen in my MS carrier hahahaha. I can’t stop laughing. "Nash" is my teammate? A literal person that hasn’t posted yet? And we’re on page 4.

u r not the only one; ive been laughing the whole time tbh
but the case remains that if u r scum, and u gave a free pass to iv for his reads, then

it simply worked

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UNVOTE: Norskboi

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i think i want to kill deimos now

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VOTE: Deimos

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come join my wagon norwee and save ur neck

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tell whom is the scumiest from the 3 of us then

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I suggest we just stop rn until Deimos and Nash appear

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BM is milimetrically on his meta

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@Word321 Explain your unvote on me in more detail

Im rly keen to knowing why u would ask for this, and yada yada yada
but let me open my game a bit
norwee, u cant rly dig urself out of this hole
and I rly am considering just advocating for the hammer here with battle mage
most of the arguments u gave, like the above, r more likely from scum

but there is this remote chance of killing by overpush
and I rly think none of u 3 r partners
so unless the game is

exactly

nash deimos, then one of em is scum
I want to see who from them bus u first
or not, cause it is impossible to bus this game

so this is a formality more or less

my suggestion is that this is just a game played by a lot of diverse players
and a good deal of rationality aint always a requisite for a good play
this is a social game after all


pedit: AAH why dnt u just yap it
this is beyond the intent of scumhunting
every single point that could be made was made, written in steel

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norwee, with all due respect, ur arguments r insanely weak
bms meta has been on point, we need 100% town vote to lynch from the nature of the game so it is necessary to gather every support possible, u asked for my opinion when the only possible bad scenario is me trying to become unrelated to the hammer of a town from town persepective, when the most profitable alternative is getting towncred by the defense of the rashness by other town
well, nothing will change the fact that BM has his target, and I rly dnt think that innocent villager will change his mind at some point; that by itself is already damning, if anyone of em is town, cause that means we have 100% of a townhammer this round.

its a hole for both town and scum. The thing is that this kind of scenario has a possible alternative; death by overpush, where the arguments given become increasingly weaker and the idea that we r lynching scum and u r trying to ditch a defense becomes more and more plausible, in a self feeding loop. But given the evidence, and bc this is just a game, i rly would go for the hammer a priori.

thats what I mean.

and yes, u r right with ur probabilities; the state of the game pushes it that way.
but it is a fallacy to work only with raw probabilities; none of us have strong connections to each other by attitude. the fact we default to nash and deimos is not due to simple probabilities to defaulting on ppl who dnt talk, but by making connections with already aquired knowledge. its simply how the game developed.

(answering the previous questions)

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on BMs meta:
yeah, I am
i think he is also aware of it
but ive seen some times now both in games with him and previous metareads on other occasions that focusing and dismantling like he is doing rn is pretty much part of the core of his meta
I dnt always agree with it, the level of confidence in being scum either dnt need to be that high or he has other ways of evaluating slots that i dnt see (i think he is pretty confident himself this time tho), but its just like that
I also think he plays with the notion of being a "suicidal" kind of player and making "blatant mistakes" to bait scum push opportunities, but I havent seen it here this time (exept perhaps the im town sheep me).
Either way, i think he is quite aware of his meta; but he DEFONETELY aint playing to his scum meta, and thats the point.

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i think thats it for today for me

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so everyone has appeared; thats good

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nash dnt like deimos and ghost votes norwee, deimos thinks the too much push on norwee is indicative of scum there while scum reading bm

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im ok with that course of action
it seems both norwee and deimos r rly motivated with BM
so let me tell ya somethin
deimos, vote for norwee so we can end the day and ull be my conftown
ill sheep u to whoever u want tomorrow, no matter whom
how bout that?

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norwee, let ur town block win this game for yu
your will will not be forgotten

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Well, that makes things far easier, then!
Let me tell ya somethin Norwee: u wont be getting the idea of deimos/norwee outside of my head anytime soon. So, if that rly is ur solve, u dnt mind going for Deimos->BM instead of BM->Deimos. Deimos refuses to vote u; the easy way out is u voting Deimos. Vote deimos, and Ill go back to him with u, and advocate for a deimos hammer. I think everyone is happy with that, right? Upon failure of red, under ur impression the only slot possible is BM; Im A-Okay going for a BM hammer day 2, or sipping u, or whatnots.

Heres a lil incentive to make a choice:
VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

Everything is on the hands of Nash and norwee I guess. Make haste!

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hmm
I think this is the last time I address the issue without parking the vote on ur slot:
Think about the situation we r here
A wagon was quickly formed on ur slot; there is a player against it
These r the possibilities I find more plausible given the situation we r in from Deimos. He is either:
1. Town, concerned over a misshammer
2. Scum, wanting to stay out of the hammer to capitalize on a misshammer
3. Scum, not wanting to hammer his partner

So I offer him on capitalizing my vote for tomorrow. That is insanely useful for the second option; and mildly useful for the first. If I go back on my word, after all, he can always capitalize on that, and rightfully think Im manipulative scum or make it seems so.

And then, he refuses. What do u think is the logical conclusion on that? I was even considering not actually voting for u if he voted; the thing is, he should have thought I actually wanted to vote for u. In the first 2 scenarios it is easier to sort the partner after all.

And nopw u refuse to vote deimos. Listen, Norwee, I rly am willing to sheep on u on whatever choice u make; this is the last chance u have to actually ascertain ur alignment on my slot. U R going to be hammered as town if u keep going that way, and that is antitown. So unless u r scum, lets go hammer Deimos first, and clear the doubt on everyones midn. It will prove without doubt that everyone thinks ur slot is scum, and henceforth, that u cant be scum.

Or lets wait for Nash, whatever u feel is the best, I guess. We either win or we play tomorrow without a conftown.

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ah, it dsnt work that way

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i dnt understand neither deimos nor norway for gods sake

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or maybe i can buy deimos if he was scum i guess

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i have no idea at all at this point to be honest
my best guess is on the lines of deimos/iv
guess how i would be able to know if deimos aint actually the scum at this point?

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but it is not good putting blame on the dead, i geuss

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this humble one is eternally graceful to the gods

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didn’t you say you would sheep him yesterday

half of it was being a manipulative bastard tbh

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iv,

I wont place my vote this early on a hammer or lose

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i want to hear everyone, and i want no one to vote
then we will make a course of action

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we can gather 2 suspects and make em vote for each other
as long as the game dsnt end in a day, that means one of em is scum

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Perot: you being a manipulative bastard or Deimos?? Idgi

i was being kind of a manipulative bastard
i think I already developed the 3 posibilities for deimos slot
one of em involved him being scum, and still going after norwee

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oh
GG ppl
the scum was exactly indeed nash/deimos it seems
well, it was fun while it lasted, i guess

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thanks Dannflor for moderating
why didt u take my offer norweeeeee