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Post Post #3824 (isolation #600) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:51 pm

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In post 3821, DkKoba wrote:lmao andres is a fair point but u think theres 2 other ppl at this table who would kill outside baltar with me yelling at them to do so? Get real
also a fair point

if it's you + npow + aldus i don't see them overruling you….
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Post Post #3825 (isolation #601) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:52 pm

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VP + aldus + npow

does that make sense?
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Post Post #3830 (isolation #602) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:55 pm

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so like
only 2 realistic scenarios

VP is town, scum is koba + aldus + npow
VP is scum, other scum is aldus + npow

let's flip npow
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Post Post #3831 (isolation #603) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:56 pm

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In post 3828, VP Baltar wrote:Andres+Koba teaming up to talk Ico out of voting Koba with any BS.

Ico, please don't cost us this game. I'm literally handing us scum.
it's possible

BUT

NPOW is still scum
if we flip him, there is a shot scum MIGHT kill you which is HUGE benefit for town at that point

and if you live, we continue this discussion
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Post Post #3832 (isolation #604) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:56 pm

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like, not a single scenario where NPOW is town lol

koba, you see this rigth?
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Post Post #3833 (isolation #605) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:57 pm

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i think this is what andres wants to achieve

force scum to decide what to do with VP (if he's town), while we flip someone who is Always gonna be scum either way
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Post Post #3837 (isolation #606) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:59 pm

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koba

lets flip NPOW yes or no?
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Post Post #3841 (isolation #607) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:00 pm

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why the no?
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Post Post #3842 (isolation #608) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:00 pm

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well we don't need you for it actually

flip NPOW y/n

thoughts plz
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Post Post #3844 (isolation #609) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:02 pm

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i love lylo's
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Post Post #3846 (isolation #610) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:03 pm

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boy oh boy

i'm actually very close to voting aldus

lol
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Post Post #3849 (isolation #611) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:04 pm

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In post 3845, Alduskkel wrote:The only universes where NPOM is town are if 1) Icon is scum or 2) both VPB and Koba are scum so yeah I'm fine yeeting NPOM.
2 is literally NEVER the case lol
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Post Post #3851 (isolation #612) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:05 pm

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In post 3847, Andresvmb wrote:But why are you pushing for a third wagon. There’s already two 1v1s. If you’re Town, you’re actually gambling at that point that you have practically the perfect solve.
i know

it's coming from REALLY wanting to kill NPOW in this game

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Post Post #3859 (isolation #613) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:10 pm

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optimal for you, yeah
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Post Post #3860 (isolation #614) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:11 pm

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a scumteam of andres + koba + npow's only way out of this is to push aldus as the flip here
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Post Post #3862 (isolation #615) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:13 pm

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i don't see what the problem is

i have a solve that i think is the most likely scenario

but i'm covering all bases here, as I should?
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Post Post #3864 (isolation #616) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:14 pm

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koba + npow + aldus

OR

VP + npow + aldus
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Post Post #3865 (isolation #617) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:14 pm

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but excuse me for being extremely paranoid about just everything at this point lol
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Post Post #3866 (isolation #618) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:15 pm

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but like

there is actually a lot of things pointing towards koba being town
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Post Post #3868 (isolation #619) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:16 pm

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In post 3867, Andresvmb wrote:Then vote Aldus. Like what? If you can’t decide between VPB and Koba, but have me as Town, then your choice is obvious.
who says i'm not going to?

i'm not ready to end just yet
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Post Post #3869 (isolation #620) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:17 pm

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i honestly believe scum!koba would Always kill VP here

but if VP is town then… what?

he got tracked doing the kill and did a reverse datisi, where he fakeclaimed a power role that may be in a partner hands?
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Post Post #3870 (isolation #621) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:17 pm

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scum*

if VP is scum*
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Post Post #3875 (isolation #622) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:25 pm

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In post 1948, DkKoba wrote:more like masonizer amirite
In post 1967, DkKoba wrote:u know what i think there may be a tracker and mafia know and baltar was indeed on bailey... as the kill :lol:

just my ... big brained prediction.
rereading the whole claim scenario

this reads like koba was VERY informed at that time
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Post Post #3876 (isolation #623) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:25 pm

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knowing scum had info on billy being MASON TRACKER from Day 2 onward, this is mighty convenient for Koba to know.
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Post Post #3878 (isolation #624) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:29 pm

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wait fuck

that's it

scum already knew on D2 that there was at least a mason tracker
add to that a 'loyal neighbourizer' and a fake PT cop claim might actually work for scum

scum can just have the rolecop or smt, investigated Hell on N2, and stuck to their PT rolecop thing claim.
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Post Post #3879 (isolation #625) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:30 pm

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if this theory is true

then VP is scum, with Koba being town -> Andres pushing away from koba and doubting VP so much means Andres is conftown

so scumteam is VP + NPOW + Aldus

i'll go reread them in ISO now
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Post Post #3882 (isolation #626) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:31 pm

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this covers all bases I think

koba's play this game does not make sense for scum
neither does andres

npow is scum
aldus can so easily be scum
and VP got caught and fakeclaimed his way to LYLO and now fakes the guilty at the perfect time
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Post Post #3883 (isolation #627) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:36 pm

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In post 1967, DkKoba wrote:u know what i think there may be a tracker and mafia know and baltar was indeed on bailey... as the kill :lol:

just my ... big brained prediction.
tho this doesn't work with both VP and koba being scum smh
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Post Post #3884 (isolation #628) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:37 pm

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imagine town!koba actually figuring out the mason tracker AND the VP kill on GB lol
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Post Post #3886 (isolation #629) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:39 pm

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i hear you, VP
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Post Post #3887 (isolation #630) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:40 pm

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i fully understand that Datisi NK shakes up the towncore a lot more then a VP kill
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Post Post #3888 (isolation #631) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:42 pm

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@VP

but we both agree NPOW is literally Always scum, yes?

If we flip there, you have an investigation again. If scum go for the full wifom play, you have information tomorrow. If scum decide that play is over, and kill you, we will have confirmation on scum!koba.

That's a lot better then killing koba today, yes?
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Post Post #3892 (isolation #632) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:46 pm

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VOTE: NPOW
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Post Post #3895 (isolation #633) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:47 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #3896 (isolation #634) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:48 pm

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In post 3891, VP Baltar wrote:Imagine having caught scum and multiple people trying to tell you to yeet elsewhere.
easy if you know ur town lol

for everyone else… not so much
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Post Post #3899 (isolation #635) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:50 pm

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hey npow

did you ever get around to answering my questions?
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Post Post #3900 (isolation #636) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:50 pm

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In post 3898, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Which part of this is xylo don't you understand? If we eliminate wrong there won't be a tomorrow right?
so who you voting ?
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Post Post #3931 (isolation #637) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:18 pm

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then why aren't you voting?
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Post Post #3934 (isolation #638) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:19 pm

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NPOW if ur that serious about treating VP's claim as a guilty, you should vote for koba. Now.
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Post Post #3935 (isolation #639) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:20 pm

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In post 3933, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Because it's xylo and that's not what you do in xylo.
you… don't vote for a guilty in xylo?
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Post Post #3938 (isolation #640) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:21 pm

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In post 3936, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 3931, Iconeum wrote:then why aren't you voting?
Why are you pushing for the guy you SR to vote?
i have reasons
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Post Post #3940 (isolation #641) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:22 pm

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are you talking about me?
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Post Post #3945 (isolation #642) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:26 pm

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In post 3943, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I'm not inclined to trust Icon at this point. It sounds like he wants to hammer town for a scum win.
Right, i'm scum *with VP* who are shooting for a fake guilty

after I killed the person who was singlehandedly gonna win this game for me -> datis -> if i'm scum?
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Post Post #3947 (isolation #643) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:26 pm

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In post 3944, Andresvmb wrote:@Ico please explain to NPOM why my vote guarantees Scum in Me/Aldus.
it guarantees it, yes

but you are not taking into account that aldus is only confirmed to YOU, and not to us?
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Post Post #3952 (isolation #644) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:29 pm

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NPOW

i want your full reads
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Post Post #3954 (isolation #645) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:30 pm

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you either think koba is town, and i'm alinging him for the misrope

or you think VP is town, which means koba is scum, which means you can't think i'm alligning him for the misflip

which is it
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Post Post #3956 (isolation #646) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:31 pm

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In post 3954, Iconeum wrote:you either think koba is town, and i'm alinging him for the misrope

or you think VP is town, which means koba is scum, which means you can't think i'm alligning him for the misflip

which is it?
there, adjusted it before you say you don't see the question
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Post Post #3959 (isolation #647) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:31 pm

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In post 3955, NoPowerOverMe wrote:But I've already said my solve is DKK/Icon/Andres
In post 3943, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I'm not inclined to trust Icon at this point. It sounds like he wants to hammer town for a scum win.
then how did you come to the conclusion i am pushing you to vote koba so i can hammer town for the win?
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Post Post #3962 (isolation #648) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:32 pm

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In post 3957, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 3954, Iconeum wrote:you either think koba is town, and i'm alinging him for the misrope

or you think VP is town, which means koba is scum, which means you can't think i'm alligning him for the misflip

which is it
Why are you only presenting one of the two 1v1s in the game?
VP vs koba is BY FAR the most important one
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Post Post #3967 (isolation #649) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:35 pm

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In post 3960, Andresvmb wrote:I’m going to bed. This game is lost.
there's 2 votes on koba tho

don't you wanna stick around to see what happens?
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Post Post #3970 (isolation #650) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:36 pm

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no
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Post Post #3971 (isolation #651) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:36 pm

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if you wanna roll over and die

just do it

but i'm actually trying to solve and win here
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Post Post #3972 (isolation #652) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:37 pm

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andres, if you can't see the problem with how you are treating me here, that's on you

you cannot expect for me to blindly trust you for something that is only confirmed to you
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Post Post #3974 (isolation #653) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:38 pm

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i don't see how you cannot comprehend that VP is in the exact same spot as you
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Post Post #3975 (isolation #654) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:39 pm

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or eh

maybe you do

lol
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Post Post #3978 (isolation #655) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:40 pm

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andres if you go to bed

and koba isn't killed by the time you wake up

wat does that tel you
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Post Post #3981 (isolation #656) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:43 pm

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i'll wait for hellbooks to catch up now
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Post Post #3983 (isolation #657) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:47 pm

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VOTE: npow
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Post Post #3984 (isolation #658) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:48 pm

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here i'm tunneling you npow
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Post Post #3989 (isolation #659) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:51 pm

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In post 3986, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Cool. The scum team is trying to get me lynched again. Like this is a surprise. Looks like my hunch is right.
if ur town, we never had a chance coming into today

that's ok
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Post Post #3993 (isolation #660) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:13 pm

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i'm just lurking right now

don't mind me
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Post Post #3995 (isolation #661) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:49 pm

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ok
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Post Post #3996 (isolation #662) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:49 pm

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go on
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Post Post #3998 (isolation #663) » Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:58 pm

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i'm fairly sure npow is just scum tho
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Post Post #4001 (isolation #664) » Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:01 am

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refreshed thoughts layed out

1 scum in koba+VP
1 scum in andres + aldus
1 scum in npow

there is enough evidence to not blindly trust VP's claim, but not enough to straight out not believe it either. boths sides have fair points and stuff going in their favour, so I deem it ok to not flip in them right now.
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Post Post #4003 (isolation #665) » Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:34 am

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koba according to your own logic i should be close to conftown to you
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Post Post #4011 (isolation #666) » Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:41 am

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In post 4008, Andresvmb wrote:I mean at the same time who cares. If NPOM is Town we literally never win.
this is true
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Post Post #4314 (isolation #667) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:49 am

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REEEEEEEEEE
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Post Post #4315 (isolation #668) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:49 am

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I WAS TOWN GUYS

I WAS TOWN ALL ALLONNNGGGGG
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Post Post #4316 (isolation #669) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:49 am

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@scumteam: how the fuck did you guys come up with a Billy kill???
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Post Post #4321 (isolation #670) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:50 am

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scum managed to guess both other masons after datisi claim??

NoPowerOverMe is killing Billy Pilgrim.
•NoPowerOverMe is jailkeeping Hellbooks.
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Post Post #4323 (isolation #671) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:52 am

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In post 4317, DkKoba wrote:gg i was 0/5 lol.

i shoulda been more sus on why aldu quickhammered in a situation where I clearly wanted NPOM...
at the very least you managed to slow me down enough and convince me you would effectively *never* kill so suboptimally, and turned me around on VP
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Post Post #4325 (isolation #672) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:53 am

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@raya

great modding, especially considering it's your first

you can release my PT without redactions as soon as it fits you
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Post Post #4332 (isolation #673) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:59 am

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In post 4327, DkKoba wrote:dead thread still not public... i wanna see ppl yelling at me(justifiably so)
tbf, we were only yelling at drunk!koba
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Post Post #4334 (isolation #674) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:00 am

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In post 4333, DkKoba wrote:ew... menalque in dead thread. kinda weird they commenting on a game im in after they got banned for being toxic to me and also even DMed me asking me to not join their games xP
but i digress
you should give him another chance... for real

also i still think our shouting at drunk!koba was entirely justified :lol:
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