Open 789: Two-Fold 2d3 [Game Over]

[dramonic]

other TL:DR
If Chemist flips town somehow, I don't want WIFOM in my endgame.

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If it's still too confusing just assume I wanted to force a massclaim while also purging wifom

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I understand the perspective, but yeah dunn didnt really crumb any result so Im working with the assumption he copped a corpse.
Also the assumption that I'm right, cuz Menalque was absurdly scummy and makes sense as a partner for jake.

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Honestly I'm willing to bank on almost and hiraki being town. Their play makes no sense if allied with jake. That + 2 confown + myself makes for a pretty clean path to victory.

Edit: correct

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Fwiw marashu is just as conftown as you, so he might eat the bullet.
Also chemist is most likely the last scum, but you can have your day

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If you look at Dunn’s day long push of me and my positioning around Jake I think there is a decent chance he targeted me. RCE is a good bet too.

Dram, I dramatically disagree with your play today on a theory level, but I at least can see your twisted logic.

I got to be honest, I don’t care enough to do more work on this game.

Chemist> chkflip for me. If neither flips scum, I trust people at mylo to abstain and then take their best bet at lylo. I have my own thoughts, but there will be much more to go on.

VOTE: chenist

I endorse the above post (besides disagreeing with me :p)
Also chk... It's an open setup, read the setup stuff plz

[dramonic]

I might be overestimating scum here, but there is (well was) little benefit to not CC me as scum, especially after Teacher listed his investigations.

Unless scum were in my clears and couldn’t counterclaim.

I mean yes but that's a crapshoot.
Heck I coulda been one of your investigations, thatd have made for an awkward day.
Well, more awkward

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We know that they're a goon post-massclaim because there's only one case with solo cop as the only PR.
They knew I was lying pre-massclaim because they know their role and there's a dead cop, there is no setup that fits my claim and those conditions.

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DO EET *w*

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Cmon, ya coulda shot marashu :/
Now I'm gonna feel a little bit bad.

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Anyways, chkflip today ja?

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Gamma's entrance was basically pulling a shaky case out of his ass to vote me.
I'm legit surprised Chemist flipped town, but I wont speak ill of the dead

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I suppose

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They know I'm lying chk, they know they're a goon and therefore there is no PR besides the dead cop.
It's not a risky CC

This implies he knew the setup.

At that point I did. At that point everyone did.

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exhibit A)
If I were scum, nobody questionned my claim. I can shoot you tonight and win because we autolynch chemist, almost and hiraki.

Why has the list changed?

Because that is a different scenario where you and PP are "confirmed" and I don't retract my claim?

You're also ignoring the point that you knew the setup when you claimed. Cute, but I'll keep bringing it up. You couldn't have possibly known from a goon flip that there wasn't another PR.

But I didn't. I claimed to lock the potential goon out of claiming. I've explained that extensively already.
Can someone who isn't me explain this to chk, cuz he's clearly not getting it and I'm the last person he's willing to listen to <_<

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In either case we can work with the information provided to purge the scum tho, cuz in both case Teach would have had real clears and therefore only 2 ml are physically possible

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This whole debacle with chk kinda makes me question my read on !PP, cuz if thats town it means im wrong on someone.
Not a fan of being wrong.

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We're kind of all waiting for penguin to manifest

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I really think its between Chk and PP just based on day 1 tho =/

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eeeh, I'm not over the fact it wasn't chemist

vote: Almost50

It doesn't really matter to me. It's not Hiraki and chk today honestly doesn't feel scum.

@Chk: If you wanna use that tell I'm a WW

[dramonic]

Anyone who thinks I'm scum in this game after D2 is dumb. I'll give passes cuz I coulda been WW til that point, but I maintain that my day 1 play is the ultimate act of self-destruction as mafia xD

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I agree with 2 tho

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That feels like cherrypickin, but I don't really care.

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there we go <_<

@Dunn: so who WAS your investigation
It's funny that chkflip won his townread for me through sheer lunacy

@Almost: Actual thoughts IRT the fakeclaim plz ^_^;

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@Almost: Actual thoughts IRT the fakeclaim plz ^_^;

It's in the Mafia PT. I made the right call by NOT CC'ing bc I would have (falsely) confirmed the VTs. I needed them for the slaughter.

well yeah but im not gonna tell you THAT <_<

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bah. Gotta try some random gambles once in a while in solved games. Don't think you were getting out of this one without back-to-back quicklynches. Hiraki and me were unguilable by a semi competent town (albeit we didnt really have one of those), so it would PoE down to you unless you shot us :p
Also the menalque salt in dead thread is cute.

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Well, if it makes you feel better I was gonna shoot you over Marashu.

I love you too jackass

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(albeit we didnt really have one of those)

Rude.

you thought I could be buddy with Jake

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trying to read into replacement slots is dumb <_<

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lol, oh the sweet, sweet taste of delusion <3