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Post Post #37 (isolation #0) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:09 am

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I'm just a bodycount, don't mind me
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Post Post #40 (isolation #1) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:13 am

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In post 38, OkaPoka wrote:decline that unwnd this setup is super complex and mom is basically taking a shotgun to a surgery
You just want me to yourself, don't you
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Post Post #42 (isolation #2) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:15 am

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I don't think it looks townie at all
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Post Post #46 (isolation #3) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:18 am

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Why try to force confrontation this soon even though we're not even past page 3
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Post Post #63 (isolation #4) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:46 am

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I will not propose to anyone and I will accept at last minute
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Post Post #68 (isolation #5) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:49 am

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In post 65, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 63, unwnd wrote:I will not propose to anyone and I will accept at last minute
why did you feel a need to announce it like this?
Born this way
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Post Post #74 (isolation #6) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:55 am

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I think Oka is a kooky chicken man and Mom reaching out to familiarity are both non-talking points
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Post Post #76 (isolation #7) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:57 am

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Not sure but Sans sure is a chatterbox
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Post Post #81 (isolation #8) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:59 am

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In post 78, OkaPoka wrote:ok unwnd how do you propose we play this then
Let people decide for themselves
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Post Post #82 (isolation #9) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:00 am

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Do you guys want to-the-point blunt unwnd or subtly-inferring unwnd
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Post Post #85 (isolation #10) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:02 am

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In post 83, Ydrasse wrote:unwnd you seem ornery
It's the loud music and my dance shoes don't fit
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Post Post #88 (isolation #11) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:03 am

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In post 87, Sans Undertale wrote:unwnd sure is a chatterbox.
I'll make a funny bone out of you bub
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Post Post #92 (isolation #12) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:05 am

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In post 89, Sans Undertale wrote:pretty humerus
I don't know how to respond to this so I'll just admit defeat here
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Post Post #94 (isolation #13) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:07 am

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What mom did was objectively bad? I wouldn't say I townread it but I didn't mind the initiative. That's where me and Mr. Bones disagree
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Post Post #97 (isolation #14) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:11 am

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In post 96, OkaPoka wrote:i think pairing doesnt really matter that much other than finding the 3 scummiest player to put in a box and lim because first trio-ing isn't perm
Hypothetical question for you--

What seems more likely

1) Scum wanting to get into a trio quickly
2) Scum waiting to see what town does and working around it
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Post Post #99 (isolation #15) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:16 am

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I really really doubt anyone here would be going for the phase 1 win

You have Aaron (who has the same avatar I did for that one game I played with Maria) who has said multiple times 'I'm just here to dance'

This a chat flirty flooze and mafia second
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Post Post #103 (isolation #16) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:17 am

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In post 101, Sans Undertale wrote:unwnd, you do understand that i don't find the early proposal scummy at all, right? if anything it's slightly towny i feel. what i dislike is entirely based on .
I think the proposal and that post aren't related, just seemed like she was thinking outloud

Unless you think that thought was scummy and she's saying that for town points
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Post Post #107 (isolation #17) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:21 am

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I'm always right

It's a curse
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Post Post #109 (isolation #18) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:26 am

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Anyways sans I have a very egotistical reason why I don't mind the proposal. I think scum would be less reluctant to just pair with people they couldn't easily snow and like

Me and Koba? Koba is a fucking war axe and I'm fickle
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Post Post #113 (isolation #19) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:32 am

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Bare in mind that I have barely read the content of the setup but I would definitely not be afraid to nuke my two dance partners if I felt strongly that at least one of them was scum
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Post Post #115 (isolation #20) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:34 am

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I'm allergic to reading
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Post Post #122 (isolation #21) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:43 am

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I didn't say no but I also didn't say yes!
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Post Post #195 (isolation #22) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:55 pm

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If I were trying to defend Mom I would've just accepted her proposal right there
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Post Post #197 (isolation #23) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:58 pm

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I don't want to pair with people I don't townread

The explanation is right in front of you
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Post Post #201 (isolation #24) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:04 pm

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I don't know Oka, how does that defend mom...?

Man I am a bit grumpy huh
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Post Post #203 (isolation #25) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:06 pm

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So we both agree that I wasn't defending mom yet you want to tell me the reason I'm scummy is for..trying to defend her?

The goose is cooked
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Post Post #205 (isolation #26) » Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:08 pm

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Asking you loaded questions to generate a response from you
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Post Post #236 (isolation #27) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:21 am

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In post 235, OkaPoka wrote:right now the only thing that should matter is finding the 3 people we want to lim most
I don't feel we are any closer to this goal and it has me concerned
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Post Post #237 (isolation #28) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:21 am

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I have some fleeting thoughts but nothing that could become substantiated. I think I have about one or two townreads however which at least is something
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Post Post #239 (isolation #29) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:57 am

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Indifferent mostly

I don't think there's anyone that is pinging me really hard for scum
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Post Post #257 (isolation #30) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:53 am

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What are your reads oka? You're putting a lot of thought into how to win, but I don't know how that should obviously include you
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Post Post #261 (isolation #31) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:01 am

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I'll agree with your plan once you've given me a reason to think you're town

So far, that hasn't happened
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Post Post #264 (isolation #32) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:04 am

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I cannot on good conscience agree to someone's plan if im unsure of its leader

And what you've been posting isn't really telling of your alignment
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Post Post #269 (isolation #33) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:08 am

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What if i think oka is Scummy but he assumes leader position and undermines my attempt to read him

Like he's doing now
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Post Post #275 (isolation #34) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:13 am

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It requires testing? And that needs a more controlled environment. It basically can broken down to use the setup to poe 3 scummiest players, which is kinda what should happen regardless?
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Post Post #279 (isolation #35) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:14 am

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I am gonna advocate for Townie pairings and want to kill the not so Townie ones, but so far oka's scum reads are reliant on who he thinks is or isn't agreeing with him lol
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Post Post #282 (isolation #36) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:21 am

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Your position is inherent

But saying 'oh let's just kill people who could lose us the game' doesn't value that your judgment could potentially cast on town
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Post Post #283 (isolation #37) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:22 am

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In post 281, Ydrasse wrote:ahh okay, sorry, i was getting more of a distaste for the plan itself than that

who would you wanna poe-pool right now unwnd?
Right now sans/koba/aaron? With Aaron being there because he doesn't seem inclined to do much
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Post Post #288 (isolation #38) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:31 am

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Koba seems full of hot air and sans came out swinging on Moma just to dissipate into the background

Would be willing to explain it further when i get home
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Post Post #291 (isolation #39) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:36 am

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Btw i dont think those 3 comprise a scumteam, but I'd bet at least one
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Post Post #292 (isolation #40) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:12 pm

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As I was driving I realized my explanation was good enough

That may sound like a copout but my absolute problem if I haven't hinted at it enough is that

We are still here and I am still at baseline reads because the game isn't really progressing. Was your plan meant to motivate people into action?
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Post Post #297 (isolation #41) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:16 pm

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My read is not related to whatever personal misgivings you have

Do you still scumread ydra?
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Post Post #299 (isolation #42) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:18 pm

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Can you put a why into that
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Post Post #325 (isolation #43) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:36 am

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In post 321, OkaPoka wrote:okay here's my tentative groupings, i expect much commotion as a result

deathpool:
koba, mom, aaron

group2:
okapoka, harley, sans

group3:
ydrasse, unwnd, hatters

pedit: xd
I would be alright with this
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Post Post #327 (isolation #44) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:50 am

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You shouldn't feel that way, my comment extends to the other groupings as well
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Post Post #347 (isolation #45) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:28 am

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I have too many nulls to commit to a readslist, which slightly tilts me
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Post Post #357 (isolation #46) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:42 am

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unwnd
Ydra
Aaron (I like their readslist, tbh)
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Mom
Hatters
Harley
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Sans
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Post Post #361 (isolation #47) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:46 am

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In post 300, Sans Undertale wrote:what does one do when they've joined 10 mafia games at once?
In post 301, Sans Undertale wrote:i very much want mara in the pool of 3

other than the initial reasons i gave, she's made no reaction to push in terms of trying to solve
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alignment - no comment on me and whether my push makes me scummy or towny

additionally, is made in such a strange hypothetical way, while i think town would just outright defend themselves more forcefully

i also don't like how she's "understanding" of oka's push in

i've seen a lot of scumtells and feel pretty good on this one read, i feel it in my bones
In post 302, Sans Undertale wrote:ydrasse's defensive reaction to koba calling her out for shitposting is nai, she's had a similar reaction as town and i think she'd have the same reaction as scum
In post 303, Sans Undertale wrote:and that's all i've got after skimming

aaron, are you a human? my bro's looking for one and i'll SPARE you if it means making papyrus happy
I dislike this sequencing of posts, they all just seem like a grab bag of topics that sans felt like they needed to hit and nothing else. The curiosity is surprisingly formal as well, and I think it caters too much to their thread appearance
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Post Post #362 (isolation #48) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:47 am

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Ydra why were you townreading sans? Or if you still are, I really just don't see it
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Post Post #417 (isolation #49) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:25 pm

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In post 401, DkKoba wrote:also unwnd is part of the "cant read koba at all" club so their read on me should be discarded regardless of their alignment
Get over yourself, I townread you properly in the last game we played
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Post Post #443 (isolation #50) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:29 pm

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I'm good with sharing a PT with Sans, I want to hash things out because apparently we've gone from disagreement to both scumreading each other. I do know he's overgamed as well so I want to see what a less distracting environment could bring
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Post Post #464 (isolation #51) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:46 pm

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Koba I don't respect you enough as scum to consider you a threat
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Post Post #467 (isolation #52) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:48 pm

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I wouldn't respect you

I think you're a bad player, genuinely
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Post Post #469 (isolation #53) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:49 pm

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So stop pretending you're god's gift to mafia because it's clearly not working out if most of the game wants you to die

Thanks
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Post Post #473 (isolation #54) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:51 pm

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In post 471, DkKoba wrote:
In post 469, unwnd wrote:So stop pretending you're god's gift to mafia because it's clearly not working out if most of the game wants you to die

Thanks
this fucking literally happens in all my towngames bc scum think i can be an easy mislim shut the fuck up
You must be doing something wrong then
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Post Post #475 (isolation #55) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:52 pm

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I haven't said anything personal to you
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Post Post #477 (isolation #56) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:54 pm

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That isn't personal
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Post Post #479 (isolation #57) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:58 pm

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I'm allergic to reading

Point has been made, I don't townread Oka either Koba btw
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Post Post #483 (isolation #58) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:01 pm

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Wow I've been killed N1 plenty of times too
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Post Post #485 (isolation #59) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:03 pm

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You care too much of what you think of yourself and anyone doesn't agree they're just scum
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Post Post #489 (isolation #60) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:14 pm

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You're still talking to yourself I see
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Post Post #494 (isolation #61) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:18 pm

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I'm not engaging you further on this, everything is just an argument to you be to won, not necessarily to reach understanding. That isn't the way I like to play the game, and the only mistake I've made thus far is engaging you at your level. That is why I insulted you, because I just didn't assume you have the capability to be humble. To have any sensibility.

Despite this, you're playing this game and I respect the mod's choice

It's not my decision whether you live or die, despite my own coarseness
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Post Post #558 (isolation #62) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:54 am

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I am pretty bad at reading fire doggo (Koba's replacement) so I'll take the easy route and believe that slot is town
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Post Post #560 (isolation #63) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:56 am

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I was never townreading moma but as hypothetical day passes get handed out, I find myself not having one for her
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Post Post #561 (isolation #64) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:59 am

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Aaron you don't like me but I'm fond of your conclusions so far

I was worried everyone was tring Oka lol
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Post Post #588 (isolation #65) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:42 am

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In post 581, Firebringer wrote:
In post 579, OkaPoka wrote:Unwnd default reading fire as town is strange considering they sr pred ss scum no?
I was just thinking that statement was weird because unwnd successfully read me last game we played but i didn't feel like going strong meta arguments this game. also i think cabd was one probably townreading me there.

idk i don't like when people say they default read me town. it makes harder for me to sort
It was all Cabd there for the beginning but eventually you became obvtown

I think sorting in this game is really really important so I don't want to get hung up on details. I'm using what leverage I can get from other players
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Post Post #589 (isolation #66) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:58 am

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I think right now you have a bunch of Proactive people (Ydra, Myself, Aaron?, Oka) all doing their own thing. I don't really feel a sense of unity from my common posters but this is likely given how early the game is. Right now I am willing to believe there is good intentions in most of us who care enough to continually post, but if I haven't hinted at it enough, I don't really like Oka here. Just feels like he's talking around the people he apparently wants to wrangle into his plans, and that his reads and thoughts are only processed by what is given to him. He lacks the nature of seeking things out himself. I especially thought him scumreading me for not agreeing to his plan and then going 'ok I guess unwnd can be town now that he's on board' lacks depth. Yes I understand the game is still around the 500 post mark but I think I've given out enough opinions to start dissecting them, but it's like he's not really interested in reading me, only categorizing me.

With that thought tangent out of the way, you then have the grouping of (Hatters, Harley, Sans) who I think are being awkward. Sans is awkward because he claims he's overgamed so the intent behind him trying to prod me and other things just isn't very successful. Could it be scum who wants to put in minimal effort but still cares enough to play somewhat wincon? Or town who feels compelled to at least try despite the burden of it all. I don't know if I'm ready to decide and that's where (without repeating myself) I want to see what he does in a PT instead. Harley/Hatters are interchangeable to me, but I will say that Hatters seems a bit more sensitive to everyone around them. Harley just posts and doesn't really care if anyone is listening, or if the things she says will eventually mean something. I don't townread the behavior from Harley and I think Hatters needs to stop being so cagey.
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Post Post #590 (isolation #67) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:00 am

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Moma slipped my thought process and I guess Firebringer. Moma I understand you held offense towards me (and others) but I really want to see what you're thinking about. I just know nothing about you this game and that's why I wasn't comfortable with accepting.

I think with proactive people (Ydra,Myself, Arron, Oka) there is probably one scum and I agree that it's Oka. The awkward group needs more time and I would actually advocate for some of them to pair up with another.
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Post Post #593 (isolation #68) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:04 am

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Do you townread chicken man Firebringer?
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Post Post #596 (isolation #69) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:07 am

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That's not how I feel at all Oka I promise
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Post Post #597 (isolation #70) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:09 am

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I just find your behavior to be scummy and I'm not seeing where your output matches town initiative? With your plan now devised where has it lead you in terms of how you read the game?
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Post Post #601 (isolation #71) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:14 am

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In post 598, Firebringer wrote:unwnd u seem to always get a strong emotional reaction out of people. and it doesn't seem intentional.
why do u think that is?
People read my tone like a stern figure combing through the game and passing judgment on the way

But for me I'm just commenting on what I see, and how I personally feel about it

If It has to be said if someone got the wrong idea with Koba: I don't consider myself above everyone else, and I am very open to differing perspectives and ideas. I welcome them and value them, sincerely
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Post Post #602 (isolation #72) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:15 am

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In post 600, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 597, unwnd wrote:I just find your behavior to be scummy and I'm not seeing where your output matches town initiative? With your plan now devised where has it lead you in terms of how you read the game?
bro did you not see koba basically scumclaim? read my interactions with them, they be caught scum. they basically were trying to do anything, like a kid drowning in the ocean trying to latch onto something to stay afloat, just to stay alive. read their progression. they fought me every step of the way, then they retconned themselves and when i pointed it out, they ignored that point and decided a new hill should be fought on.
That slot is Firebringer now who you were kinda chummy with last night
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Post Post #605 (isolation #73) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:20 am

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So you'd want your deathpool to be like Firebringer/Me?/Moma?
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Post Post #609 (isolation #74) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:25 am

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In post 606, OkaPoka wrote:firebringer/aaron/mom probs im considering subbing in one of ydrasse/sans/harley for insurance that i didn't just kill three townies though and have a complete misread of the game because its certainly possible im third impostering
I don't hate it

We should get some pairings going sooner rather than later
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Post Post #616 (isolation #75) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:31 am

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Actually I'm going to rescind my comment on Firebringer town after consideration

{Firebringer, Harley, Moma}

Is my lowest dancing pairing right now
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Post Post #617 (isolation #76) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:32 am

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In post 615, OkaPoka wrote:unwnd why did u default to a fire townread again?
It sorting for convenience but then I realized I don't have a strong reason to think he's town just because Aaron said so lol
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Post Post #837 (isolation #77) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:15 am

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Im not against the death pool because unless something changes I am at a complete disconnect with people here
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Post Post #839 (isolation #78) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:19 am

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My personal preference will always be with people i townread however

I don't townread Harley, and Firebringer while I find a nice doggo probably doesn't synchronize with me
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Post Post #840 (isolation #79) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:23 am

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Ah whatever

Do what you want with me, i dont think this phase is the one where i get my way on most things. I have a busy day today and o won't be back later till tonight
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Post Post #1350 (isolation #80) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:27 am

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Whoa whoa what the hell why is there suddenly 54 pages
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Post Post #1356 (isolation #81) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:32 am

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I was starting to think I was posting too much already honestly

I'll skim a few things. I had some more thoughts while I was out doing errands because just love that mafia so much that while on the highway I'm thinking things like 'I wonder if Firebringer is actually scum' and then shaking my head in person only to miss my turn goddamnit
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Post Post #1359 (isolation #82) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:34 am

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I accept whoever asked to pair
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Post Post #1372 (isolation #83) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:51 am

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I think you should figure out Ydra/Sans/Firebringer/Oka sooner rather than later. I've been townreading Ydra for her interaction with Koba but Koba isn't here anymore and I no longer think that interaction is exclusive. I think tone is simply not enough for me at this point. That's what makes everything so hard because I feel everyone's personality much more strongly. I think this table is full of people who are really self-aware, almost to a dangerous aspect.

Why am I exactly put into consensus? I don't think anyone has really dropped a reason to dislike me based on the argumentative process. It's all just feeling me out and relying on some conceptual behavior. The familiarity of the room almost is what is making me uncomfortable, because I have a feeling the few players who are town are withholding all these secret tells they have on friends/familiars and don't exactly want to share. This does not help me and I don't think it will help us in the long run. I know the game is early but walking into the next phase still at this level will only lead to problems.
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Post Post #1379 (isolation #84) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:54 am

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In post 1376, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1374, OkaPoka wrote:Unwnd, ur not consensus
yeah most people don't have strong views of u right now.
That's the problem!
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Post Post #1386 (isolation #85) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:56 am

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In post 1375, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1372, unwnd wrote:I think you should figure out Ydra/Sans/Firebringer/Oka sooner rather than later. I've been townreading Ydra for her interaction with Koba but Koba isn't here anymore and I no longer think that interaction is exclusive. I think tone is simply not enough for me at this point. That's what makes everything so hard because I feel everyone's personality much more strongly. I think this table is full of people who are really self-aware, almost to a dangerous aspect.

Why am I exactly put into consensus? I don't think anyone has really dropped a reason to dislike me based on the argumentative process. It's all just feeling me out and relying on some conceptual behavior. The familiarity of the room almost is what is making me uncomfortable, because I have a feeling the few players who are town are withholding all these secret tells they have on friends/familiars and don't exactly want to share. This does not help me and I don't think it will help us in the long run. I know the game is early but walking into the next phase still at this level will only lead to problems.
Are u still feeling iffy on oka im assuming i guess u haven't read latest stuff....

Why r u worried about sans
I've talked about it before and my feelings haven't waned. To rephrase, I think he's all about the showmanship of his words and less about how effective it is in developing reads.
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Post Post #1395 (isolation #86) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:00 am

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In post 1393, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1386, unwnd wrote:
In post 1375, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1372, unwnd wrote:I think you should figure out Ydra/Sans/Firebringer/Oka sooner rather than later. I've been townreading Ydra for her interaction with Koba but Koba isn't here anymore and I no longer think that interaction is exclusive. I think tone is simply not enough for me at this point. That's what makes everything so hard because I feel everyone's personality much more strongly. I think this table is full of people who are really self-aware, almost to a dangerous aspect.

Why am I exactly put into consensus? I don't think anyone has really dropped a reason to dislike me based on the argumentative process. It's all just feeling me out and relying on some conceptual behavior. The familiarity of the room almost is what is making me uncomfortable, because I have a feeling the few players who are town are withholding all these secret tells they have on friends/familiars and don't exactly want to share. This does not help me and I don't think it will help us in the long run. I know the game is early but walking into the next phase still at this level will only lead to problems.
Are u still feeling iffy on oka im assuming i guess u haven't read latest stuff....

Why r u worried about sans
I've talked about it before and my feelings haven't waned. To rephrase, I think he's all about the showmanship of his words and less about how effective it is in developing reads.
Ive never thought of oka as a showman. he is more like a cat that is easily distracted and jumping around from place to place. if u shone a light on the wall he would chase it to the end of the world.
Was talking about Sans there, but yeah Oka is definitely not showy

I disliked him earlier because I thought he was being excessive, but it's probably tipped over to the point where it has to be town
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Post Post #1408 (isolation #87) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:04 am

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Cabd isn't here doggo but I think he'd be telling me to townread you here
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Post Post #1422 (isolation #88) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:07 am

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In post 1415, Momrangal wrote:Oka, unwnd dance with me
I'll accept on one condition

A thoughtrant about how you feel about the players in this game or the gamestate. As long or as short as you want
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Post Post #1440 (isolation #89) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:17 am

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In post 1431, Momrangal wrote:Ydrasse- scum
Go on this a bit further?
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Post Post #1445 (isolation #90) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:22 am

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In post 1425, Firebringer wrote:what is the best way to read u unwnd
As town the things I say are emphasized and I don't waste time
As scum I create conversation to fall back on so I have a reason for my inconsistencies
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Post Post #1459 (isolation #91) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:29 am

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The question I have is that this hellfire that apparently happened

Do people believe that was an intentional stoking of the flames, or a byproduct of personality clash? Because if I am scum and I were being accused then I just make the situation even worse and make town assess the damages.
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Post Post #1464 (isolation #92) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:32 am

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In post 1462, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1459, unwnd wrote:The question I have is that this hellfire that apparently happened

Do people believe that was an intentional stoking of the flames, or a byproduct of personality clash? Because if I am scum and I were being accused then I just make the situation even worse and make town assess the damages.
this hellfire broke out because of norra coming in and then we got a conflict of personalities + scumreads on each other of active posters.
In my opinion that probably just suggests maybe like one scum involved and then the rest of them not really wanting anything to do with it. This is slightly ambiguous but I haven't skimread yet lol
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Post Post #1465 (isolation #93) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:33 am

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Where I stand if you put Hatters/Moma/Harley all in a death pool you almost always flip at least one scum. Guaranteed.
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Post Post #1470 (isolation #94) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:36 am

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In post 1467, Noraa wrote:
In post 1465, unwnd wrote:Where I stand if you put Hatters/Moma/Harley all in a death pool you almost always flip at least one scum. Guaranteed.
mmmmmm im not sure I like that pool.
That's probably because it doesn't comprise a team which is why the deathpool idea kinda sucks. You're sacrificing very likely two town just to kill one scum
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Post Post #1476 (isolation #95) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:37 am

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If you're playing the game that way you need to not go 'lets put all the 3 scummiest people into one pool' rather you put like two nulls and a scumread because working off your own confbias (especially if wrong) just resets the gamestate
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Post Post #1499 (isolation #96) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:43 am

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Friends will fuck you over especially in mafia games, I try to not let liking someone deter me
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Post Post #1510 (isolation #97) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:50 am

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To moma's credit I don't think on D1 the best option as scum is to try and save your partner, right now their priorities are likely to pair with someone and nothing else. I doubt the team is working like a unit right now
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Post Post #1525 (isolation #98) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:56 am

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In post 1513, Ydrasse wrote:idk man if everyone else is wrong on firebringer might wanna start looking into that but your reads are fucking upside down
If this is towards me I am fine with being wrong lol
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Post Post #1531 (isolation #99) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:59 am

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I've deduced the problem this game is having right now

Everyone wants to win at D1, but the game moves on regardless. I don't know all this planning and coordinating is doing us favors, overthinking can be an insidious killer and if I'm being honest I see a bit of it happening with myself. I would really like to just move on with my life at this point
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Post Post #1536 (isolation #100) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:03 pm

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In post 1532, OkaPoka wrote:unwnd you want to be in a pt with me and noraa
Like a desperate smelly virgin I am fine if anyone would want to fuck me at this point

And talk about yugioh
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Post Post #1540 (isolation #101) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:05 pm

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Chaperoning with benefits
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Post Post #1541 (isolation #102) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:06 pm

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Actually I take that comment back
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Post Post #1595 (isolation #103) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 3:59 pm

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Town!unwnd would do the banana splits and hop on one foot but because he's not doing that so he's scum
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Post Post #1608 (isolation #104) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:20 pm

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In post 1535, Noraa wrote:actually
propose to sans and unwnd
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Post Post #1760 (isolation #105) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:09 pm

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I don't understand why everyone hates each other and is exhausted
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Post Post #1799 (isolation #106) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:49 am

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Oh alright koba/doggo was just scum

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Post Post #1800 (isolation #107) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:55 am

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In post 357, unwnd wrote:unwnd
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Do i confbias this harder

Actually ill sleep and read doggo a bit more

I'm not sure who i want to dance with
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Post Post #1802 (isolation #108) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:00 am

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I've definitely been thinking you/Ydra had one

My slot to you is just resolved though that quick? I'll take it but lol
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Post Post #1805 (isolation #109) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:04 am

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I don't remember your read on ydra but I felt the flip there too was a bit strange. There's a lot of things unresolved in my own head with your slot therefore I wanted to understand where you came from previously
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Post Post #1811 (isolation #110) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:09 am

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What makes me the ideal world

I'm weighing my options
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Post Post #1815 (isolation #111) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:11 am

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I'd like to ISO doggo and a few other things before I'm ready for (any) commitment
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Post Post #1816 (isolation #112) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:21 am

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While I'm here though I'd like to thoughtrant about your slot Ydra. There are some instances in this game that stand out to me, like your interaction with Koba before they repped out. This specific instance is not what is telling to me rather I think you replicate that behavior to others when you're accused. There's just a lot of 'oh well fuck this game' or you seem a bit sulky/temperamental towards people killing your vibe or whatever. That all plays into this fine emotion that sans himself has said you're pretty good at faking. Should I be lead to believe that your natural response is to be this way if you feel someone is wronged you, or that you would lean into your own sensibilities more as scum? I remember Hectic v Flavor Leaf and I gave a lazy ass townread on you for your emotional presence, but then you'd feel responsible to actually trying to fake solve inbetween which I feel like you know is just awkward.

So my problem relates to the fact I'm seeing a lot of emotional behavior, which is something you're good at. Something that would definitely get you townread in a tight situation. If you're town I'd like to hope things don't have to be so apprehensive? And if you genuinely felt like people were killing your vibe me personally I don't feel that way but I do need to read you and a lot of that vibeness to me doesn't seem like a valid way of doing so. I'd just be making the same mistake as FL v Hectic.
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Post Post #1856 (isolation #113) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:39 am

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Gonna do some rereading sooner or later.

I acknowledge your response Ydra but I'd like to know a bit more where your head is at in terms of reads? I recall you mentioning that you've flipped your read on Sans and now thinks he's scum. Whatever you wanna talk about
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Post Post #1857 (isolation #114) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:39 am

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Hatters I'd love to confront you but I can't read through the gimmick, it has a certain prose that I just instantly tune out from
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Post Post #1871 (isolation #115) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:47 pm

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I would like to see people stop getting cold feet and determine who they're dancing with
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Post Post #1907 (isolation #116) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:36 pm

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What you're seeing is low effort unwnd and being more intentionally ambiguous
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Post Post #1912 (isolation #117) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 4:44 pm

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Alright taking the initiative then

Ydra let's dance
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Post Post #1915 (isolation #118) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 4:48 pm

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Oh I absolutely do, but if I'm misreading a potential Sans/Ydra team I don't wish to give them a convenient excuse
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Post Post #1918 (isolation #119) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 4:53 pm

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In post 1913, Noraa wrote:
In post 1912, unwnd wrote:Alright taking the initiative then

Ydra let's dance
you don't think ydra and sans should do backflips?
No because that is an uncontrolled variable. You have two people who like each other a good amount and play a ton of games together. The obvious choice is to let them dance together right? Wrong. I don't really townread either of them so why would I advocate a pairing like that in the first place
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Post Post #1922 (isolation #120) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 4:55 pm

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It'd be way different if I townread (Sans) or (Ydra) because then I would be entrusting my townread to take the fall. I do not feel this way and recent development doesn't help me

Ydra said she townreads me, and we're getting to the point where scum just wins if we run out of time.
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Post Post #1928 (isolation #121) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:03 pm

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In post 1925, Noraa wrote:that's what you want right unwnd?

Me
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Sure we can afford the leave but I don't know if it actually ever comes, and then if Ydra/Sans are just scum together they just do this game until it's over lol
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Post Post #1930 (isolation #122) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:10 pm

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No because they never leave
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Post Post #1933 (isolation #123) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:25 pm

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I didn't think there was a voting phase actually? Skimmed the rules, not read
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Post Post #1937 (isolation #124) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:32 pm

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I looked something over which influenced my decision

That and the whole 'lose if nobody dances'

Let's get a move on
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Post Post #1944 (isolation #125) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:38 pm

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Ydra I think you're town right now and the whole thread can hear it

You can just be another doggo who I'm terrible at reading if I'm wrong lol
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Post Post #1975 (isolation #126) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:52 am

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So that should default Hatters to Sans right?
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Post Post #2032 (isolation #127) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:21 am

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Sans you think it's Harley/Ydra right?
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Post Post #2042 (isolation #128) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:17 am

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Sounds redundant but are you town sans? I have reasons to ask this which i can disclose
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Post Post #2044 (isolation #129) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:21 am

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Caring is fun sometimes, we could start a movement

I prefer to lose gracefully
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Post Post #2045 (isolation #130) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:22 am

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I'm saying 'lose gracefully' there because i could be wrong but it'd just be confbias instead of making an informed decision
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Post Post #2048 (isolation #131) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:26 am

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Yeah? Got anything you'd wanna say? Doesn't need detail

I just want your perspective

Ninja- I was TRing Harley but they aren't strong
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Post Post #2052 (isolation #132) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:32 am

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I have some bones to pick with you, i think what this game needs is less reservation

So once i get back to the computer I'll list my concerns. Curious though, I've been shading your slot for a while now but you haven't entertained them much, why not?
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Post Post #2057 (isolation #133) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:36 am

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Does someone misrepping you not really effect you? Like if you're town and im misunderstanding your intentions, then wouldn't you want to correct them? I know not all players are like that, but it's still something to think about
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Post Post #2060 (isolation #134) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:39 am

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Was meant to sans but it's cool you can answer too
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Post Post #2062 (isolation #135) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:45 am

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I think right now yeah I do

I want you to feel confident on Hatters being scum though, if you're not then stick around
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Post Post #2068 (isolation #136) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:49 am

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If your decision is town motivated then I'm fine with it

I think you leaving breaks stalemate

Though that gives me more work though in the end
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Post Post #2082 (isolation #137) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:02 pm

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No I think if you're both town it's just Ydra/Noraa
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Post Post #2087 (isolation #138) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:45 pm

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I'm washed up!

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Post Post #2090 (isolation #139) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:51 pm

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Harley/Ydra did a good job maintaining their personality quirks to be townread

I was coming around to Sans being town right at the end as well. We just couldn't pull it together
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Post Post #2093 (isolation #140) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:54 pm

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I really didn't notice it, I felt quite detached from the game at all times
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Post Post #2096 (isolation #141) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:59 pm

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Don't be so hard on yourself

Enjoyed playing with everyone, what I said to Koba wasn't right even if they were scum in the end. I generally don't see people that way but I had some spite well up because the way you play sometimes just doesn't match with how I do. It's nothing personal though, would like to apologize regardless
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Post Post #2099 (isolation #142) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:06 pm

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My only regret is being a sap towards Ydra

If we play again I'll need to find a different way to read you
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Post Post #2101 (isolation #143) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:11 pm

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It was a bit of how you interacted with Koba and a bit of this too:

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Today at 11:00 PM
a lot of my townreading her was just getting trust
i do that ingame
ill give a townread and try to get people to trust me
even if it doesn't fully match
i mean i definitely had a moment where i did consider her being town as well so it wasn't all diplomatic
but something felt wrong either way
also yes that too
i contemplated sacrifice actually
my problem sometimes is that i think some people do take this game very emotionally right
so part of me was like 'i wont in case ydra is town and they get all sad'
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Today at 11:02 PM
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you're such a softie :heart:
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Post Post #2105 (isolation #144) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:18 pm

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While I wasn't scum I see what you mean, and I feel like that one response you made to me about your emotions (even as scum) was probably true right? Like I told Pooky though don't mistake my intentions I just wanted everyone to enjoy themselves so we could have a sweaty tryhard game

That's all yeah
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