Open 809: Charge Me Up! [Over]

[DkKoba]

100% you see guilty you didn't bother seeing scum math motivation

[DkKoba]

And when has scum acted the way i have upon being guiltied? Wanna cite the game?

[DkKoba]

swap andante for std if nd flips redirector

[DkKoba]

jk i was scum

[DkKoba]

swap andante for std if nd flips redirector

lmao std is town so that won't work

What am i flipping andante?

[DkKoba]

nah im flipping town. Everyone who is town voting me is gonna be the embodiment of the clown emoji after i flip

[DkKoba]

swap andante for std if nd flips redirector

Pikachu shock meme when i flip town after u refused to read the game
lmao std is town so that won't work

What am i flipping andante?

scum

[DkKoba]

i dont wanna hear a "wow shoulda listened to koba" later.

yall 3 town on the wagon helped this

[DkKoba]

If flea is scum - this yall fault

[DkKoba]

yall also coulda just _actually_ read what I said on the day I got fake guiltied and seem i cased Robert lol

[DkKoba]

gj mathblade thx

And thanks for not limming yesiree yall

[DkKoba]

There's always doing it completely random, eliminates both the meta aspect and the claim aspect being able to clear PRs

[DkKoba]

I swear DK was going to have an aneurism in the dead thread xD

I can definitely forward these ideas on.

Any thoughts on the no pre-game discussion rule? It has to be in place because an honest mass claim would automatically solve the PRs and a dishonest mass claim would really narrow the pool down. But it would be nice if there was a way to make it more lenient so it doesn't fully take away that aspect of the game

Keep it, honestly. It's a potential game breaker as people can claim, claim shots, then claim who they charged and fake claimers are done. I would say submitted role could be claimable but that's it.

I did really enjoy this tbh, and I'm glad I in'd for it [/quote
I did.. i thought once i flipped green theyd be like "huh ok lets see what town dk was talking about" but no. Luckily robert was really just that blatant

[DkKoba]

Role assignments:

Spoiler: Order from random.org

mozamis
Dark Magician Girl
NDMath

MiniVirgo (MiniMegabyte + JacksonVirgo)
TheYankeeReaper
Save the Dragons
Green Crayons
NoPowerOverMe
Flea the Magician
Not_Mafia
Artemiana
Lukewarm
flow trap
DkKoba

DkKoba -

Commuter, Not_Mafia

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0

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Vanilla

flow trap -

Friendly Neighbor, mozamis

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1

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1 shot Friendly Neighbor

Artemiana -

Midnight Desperado, Flea The Magician

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0

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Vanilla

MiniVirgo -

Jailkeeper, Flea The Magician

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0

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Vanilla

VFP

NoPowerOverMe

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Friendly Neighbor, Not_Mafia

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0

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Vanilla

Dark Magician Girl -

Jailkeeper, mozamis

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1

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1 shot Jailkeeper

mozamis -

Tracker, NDMath

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3

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3 shot Tracker

Green Crayons -

Friendly Neighbor, Not_Mafia

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2

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2 shot Friendly Neighbor

Vanilla

Flea The Magician -

Jailkeeper, mozamis

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2

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2 shot Jailkeeper

vanilla

Lukewarm -

Rolecop, Save The Dragons

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0

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Vanilla

Yessiree

TheYankeeReaper

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Tracker, Green Crayons

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0

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Vanilla

Not_Mafia -

Midnight Desperado, Green Crayons

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3

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3 shot Midnight Desparado

Save The Dragons -

Doctor, flow trap

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1

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1 shot Doctor

NDMath -

Watcher, Dark Magician Girl

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1

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1 shot Watcher

Question on this, how did 1 shot jailkeeper happen but not 2-shot? :/

Mod error but it didnt effect anything i see

[DkKoba]

game was fun, thank you for modding! glad we caught scum in the end! good job town and well played, scum

scum was caught well before the end

[DkKoba]

Nice

I'm sincerely sorry

[DkKoba]

game was fun, thank you for modding! glad we caught scum in the end! good job town and well played, scum

scum was caught well before the end

you're right, we had 2 shots and got them on the first one

No, math and i caught them 2 day phases before yall just couldnt bother to read

[DkKoba]

mathblade and I are clear ty

VOTE: dkkoba

I'm 1-Shot Watcher, koba was the only visitor lol.

I'd imagine that {Robert, Yes, Flea} is the gamewinning poe since two bussers could have easily instead got yes or me elim'd yesterday.

lmao are you really trying to trade here?

i actually want to reread robert because i actually realized i kinda have noticed their existence in this game but not really anything they've said.

oh right we have 2 maths here now - ndmath is my scumread, i like mathblade so far

I concur.

I read Flea's all-over-the-place long posts. Flea is wrong about me so I'm skeptical of the other comments.

One thing that jumped at me is that Flea tries to massage KdKoba's ego, like scum ingratiating themselves with a player they know to be town.

VOTE: ndmath

Why nd?

Why ndt?

I'm following DK cause it will get me TRed by them

but I think nd will flip town and Koba also fosses Almost50...

I'm really not seeing what you're seeing.

NDmath, almost50, and save the dragons makes sense as a scum team to me, especially if yesiree were to flip today as green

NDmath looks like genuine game solving to me?

VOTE: DkKoba

hold on hahahahhaa

mathblade i think it is robert actaully LOL

NDmath>Robert>STD should win the game no matter what

I think robert is the most incriminated based on how shitty their progression is on their partner, as soon as I'm pushing ND, robert popped in and tried to shade me, forgetting they were agreeing with my worldview just a few posts ago.

no, vfp, thats incorrect.

[DkKoba]

see, just proving yall didnt bother reading once the guilty was claimed

[DkKoba]

But the above was basically what every said.
I said all game Robert was scum.
I said early that ND was scum.

At this point of saying who is scum was a pretty low scum pool as available anyway. I mean, you even wanted to try and push focus towards me as scum The day of your lim as well so there's that. You most likely said majority names or leant a way to keep them available lims (from looking outside) on your last day.
If your reads were consistent I'd be me obliged to follow.

i think out of spite i wanna mark the legacy PoE as Robert>Andante>VFP

I could probably go through a huge list of posts to show why I wasn't wanting to listen to you this game (I even stated this day 1 or 2).
When you're putting Andante in the PoE here, I'm never taking you seriously.
Andante should never have been there.
Thats just my opinion though.

maybe take a look at andante's play and you realize why.

everyone else was townier than you and andante. you were so focused on the fact you weren't townier than my other townreads and ignored the person at the top of my scumreads probably just being the last scum.

unless you disagreed with me on that point, it made no sense for you to attack me for putting you as an insurance read, that's just ego.

"consistent reads" is a farce. but also my reads WERE consistent. a PoE that assumes a robert!town world however DOES have you as scummy in this game. and it DOES have andante as scummy.

mathblade also echoed my sentiments so i know i am not crazy.

[DkKoba]

Like you agreed - robert prob final scum.

cool.

but my pov was reasonable to say that if robert was town, these names might be scum.

you 100% ignored my robert case and me stating several times that "robert is probably just the solve here and this doesnt matter"

all of the town who voted on my wagon were guilty of literally not reading any of Day 3, and that includes you.

[DkKoba]

It was a frustrating experience and I hope you 3 learn to better and not repeat this mistake because it was not fun to play in an enviroment where i was just talking to several walls who would not budge because of a claimed guilty and refuse to look at egregious dayplay.

[DkKoba]

I get we won, but I was very blatantly town over NDmath and it was extremely embarrassing to see that I was limmed. I don't want players to repeat a mistake like this.

[DkKoba]

I don't think either MathBlade or I played badly at all starting on Day 2 and I am not accepting any criticism for this game at all. I have bad games, but this was one of my best games to date in terms of my day play and solving.

[DkKoba]

On that note, wanted to share I did nominate MB for a scummy for this game :

White Knight
15/05/21	DkKoba	MathBlade	Open 809: Charge Me Up!	This game was a wrap as soon as day 2 rolled around, however I want to say that MathBlade's replace in helped shift momentum towards town incredibly and their view on the game was top notch. On day 2, they replaced into the game. Almost immediately he is rereading day 1 and pushing good content into the game. They call out NDmath right away, who ends up as scum, and then later on quote a votecount and call out Robert as scum, and then several posts later, A50 scum! Damn he got the whole scumteam pretty fast on replace in. This PoE creation was a contributing factor in a game where people were chasing the LHF slot Yesiree and such, and put town on track to win the game. While this isn't directly after their replace in, I want to also bring attention to their play on day 3 when NDMath fake guiltied me to take me down with them, MathBlade was able to actually read between us and call out NDmath as clearly fake, while other townies were just reading the guilty and moving on. They refused to get off track on the solve and ended up eating a nightkill for it, but since their replace in it shows they were on the right track and pushed town into the correct direction despite the town's insistence on doing otherwise. It also was enjoyable to have someone actually believing in me being town when I was fake guiltied.

I think they deserve it.

[DkKoba]

I get we won, but I was very blatantly town over NDmath and it was extremely embarrassing to see that I was limmed. I don't want players to repeat a mistake like this.

you should take it as a compliment of your scum game

no, this wasn't because people were paranoid of my scumgame, this was because people just chose not to read and abandon logic because of a mech guilty.

its just that this situation in this game NEVER happens if im scum. id have to be literally throwing.

[DkKoba]

I get we won, but I was very blatantly town over NDmath and it was extremely embarrassing to see that I was limmed. I don't want players to repeat a mistake like this.

I didn't see you as blatantly town.
I get you are going to be bias here because its a read you want people to have on you but just to sum it up, you didn't town lock yourself and you were never in a position for town to ever go "we never lim Dk".

I read your last day and I clearly stated I was happy to lose a VT in the 1v1 if wrong.
The reason those claims should be considered more is because they do not work in scum favour to pull off (as proved this game).

I'm not saying you played badly. I'm saying there were questionable views you took that didn't convince me to just go "Oh Dk is right!"
But if you want to refuse that this is true and are going to accept 0 criticism, I'm not sure that there's any point to continue this conversation and instead I'll just go along with what you want and say "nice work Dk, you won it for us! I promise to never question or ignore your reads in future".

You only suspected me bc i said u might be scum after other ppl flipped town.
You refused to learn that claims dont matter it is about the dayplay.

I didnt have questionable views. If you think"robert town might mean vfp is scum" after i saw a reads list where u put a confscum from my pov high and a flipped scum higher too - idk what to tell u.

Caring about "PRs" is the path that players take that lose them games

[DkKoba]

You voted me over being put in PoE just admit it.