Large Normal 232—Sibyl's Elegy [GAME OVER]

[samantha97]

also the longer almost50 waits to claim the less believable his claim is

so he should do it today

[samantha97]

Just.

VOTE: Andre

FOR SMARTASSES OF THIS TOWN.

IF ANDRE IS MAFIA, THEN GOOD WE GOT MAFIA.
IF ANDRE IS TOWN, THEN:
BLOOD IS MOST LIKELY MAFIA BECAUSE TWO VANILLA COPS
KITTY IS MOST LIKELY MAFIA BECAUSE ANDRE CLAIMS TO BE ROLEBLOCKED AND IF SO, WHY KITTY DIDN'T GET ROLEBLOCKED 1N

2VS1 TRADE IS GOOD ENOUGH.

NO REASON TO VOTE OUTSIDE.

[samantha97]

UNVOTE:
w8ing for almost50

[samantha97]

kitty/andres roleblocking dynamic was brought up yesterday and andres was voted, if you forgot

[samantha97]

both of their roles are likely at least mostly legit (bloodhail may be ungated in actuality if he is mafia), it's only their alignments that are in question

[samantha97]

cabd between andres/bloodhail which is more likely mafia

[samantha97]

no if they are both town we enter lylo, that's why we have to today

[samantha97]

almost50 can you claim pls

[samantha97]

if you crumbed something I don't know what it is

[samantha97]

bloodhail pro: more suspicious of andres, suspected by cabd and anastasia, logical targets
bloodhail neutral: claimed fake result when someone was l-2 for a decent amount of time and the votes initially had a lot of momentum; possible he was here and ready to unvote but otherwise it could be seen as covering a failed opportunity, and on the other hand it's risky for mafia to do that in general (but then that could give town points itself)
bloodhail con: sat on claim and didn't accuse andres of anything when andres claimed, claimed even-night after there was an odd-night claim, suspected by rathe

andres pro: claims roleblocked when he could just... not (unless his role isn't fruit vendor)
andres neutral: 2 mafia had votes parked on him d1, off T3 wagon despite saying he is mafia, roleblocking doesn't make sense with kitty unless roleblocker is 'night 2 night 3' variant (in neutral because that may be why t3 claimed that way)
andres con: targets don't make sense from a town mindset, ungated checks are more powerful in town hands (assuming town is supposed to glean something from it), constant ATE, slower and wavering conviction against bloodhail

even though the list for andres is more damning and I agree with enchant that it would be a 2-for-1 with kitty... rereading some of day 1 I just have to

VOTE: bloodhail

[samantha97]

atm I kind of hate this game because it feels like there's 5+ mafia lol

[samantha97]

VOTE: andresvmb

zzz

[samantha97]

I promise. Lets vote Anastasia. Great things happen!!?

you had me until that question mark

[samantha97]

anyway VOTE: cabd

ghosting this thread so I don't change my mind

[samantha97]

t3 unvoted vasex wagon d1
anastasia thought both cops were town
this will be the 3rd time cabd escapes being lynched even after being the counterwagon to town yesterday, and he had no issue with the double cop claim either

back to the shadows

[samantha97]

But I mean no one really cares to read, there’s way too many posts because Vasex just spews nonsense nonstop, and Town apathy has truly set in as far as I can tell. Every Town player I had some confidence was Town {Rathe, DGB, Kerset} and some players I would have cross-checked my thoughts with had they remained in the game because I trust their thinking {XP, Anya} are all dead. And Pooky who could clearly carry this Town if they tried doesn’t seem that invested, and Marky Mark has completely disappeared. The rest of you could all flip Scum as far as I’m concerned and I wouldn’t be totally surprised.

I am heartbroken

[samantha97]

yes the constant circular discussions are annoying

the ignoring rathe's reads and the clearly town-filled wagons stuff is annoying

which is why I'm willing to vote bloodhail/anastasia/cabd today

[samantha97]

thankfully I will be too soon~

[samantha97]

I talked them into dkkoba, but dunnstral was ignored in favor of save the dragons

they thought cabd/anastasia/bloodhail weren't town, and the day after they died cabd got saved by a town wagon, whether cabd is town or not

[samantha97]

@Sam can you help me understand why you think we need to elim Cabd due to them being the counterwagon to NDMath?

I get that counterwagon to scum has a good chance of being town (eg T3 scum implies Enchant town) but I don't see what stops Cabd/NDMath being T/T

nothing stops them from both being town

but I have to believe that for some reason it's difficult to lynch town 3 separate days + cabd believed he was hammered day 1 + cabd thinks it's normal for there to be 2 cops and 2 vanilla cops

also if either of the vanilla cops exist it's likely that at least 1 of the vanilla claims is mafia

[samantha97]

Votecount 5.5

Cabd

[4] - Nero Cain, Cabd, KittyTacky, samantha97

bloodhail

[2] - Andresvmb, Vasex

Vasex

[1] - Almost50

Andresvmb

[1] - bloodhail

Not voting

- Marky Mark, Anastasia, Enchant

I'm going to treat nero as confirmed town since we lose if he isn't anyway

the votes on cabd are minimally 2/4 town, one of which is a selfvote, and kitty is very likely town as well making it 3/4

even if kitty were mafia, mafia have the numbers to make up any reason they want and just hammer cabd here

why have they not?

[samantha97]

I don't really care about your vote as much as you explaining the numbers

there's 3 mafia left as far as I know, and cabd needs 2 votes to be lynched

[samantha97]

did bloodhail ever have enough town on him to be in range of their voting power? I don't remember what the votes were at its peak today

[samantha97]

it's been over 24 hours since cabd was l-2 and literally every player has posted since then

there's room to be wrong but... I think cabd inadvertently confirmed himself mafia by selfvoting

[samantha97]

Nero Cain survived to Day 6. He was a

Mafia Informed Traitor Neighbour

.

yeah that was never gonna be a town win lol

thank you for hosting, especially for being so prompt

nice playing with you all

[samantha97]

enchant was bussing t3 and kitty, and t3 was bussing enchant, + gunsmith clear on nero after a flipped traitor...

mafia played well plus the way events shook out we were mechanically screwed on top of it