secret hitler round 2 [7/7] (fascists win!)

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Eh /sure

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Postpone works better for me anyway tbh

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Postpone works better for me anyway tbh

is this an /in?

The /sure was an in

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What is 3pm est for us who live in a reasonable time zone?

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21h?

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Okay cool, sounds good! I’m /in unless my phone dies and I’m not home by then lol

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Is that not just an element of the actual game tho

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That would be infinitely better for me I’m omw home from the park rn

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And like, I can play from my phone/on public transport but would much rather go from my laptop lol

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Make me chancellor cakez

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Fml my bus is delayed due to protests so it’s gonna take me twice as long to get home

Posting may be a bit spotty until I am

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Well I have a good liberal strat we can use for elections but me being last at table makes the suggestion kinda funny

The strat is as follows. We need to get reads on everyone. Things cycle through a table in a row. 7 people at table. To get the most reads quickly we should have elections go as follows

Seat 1 noms seat 7
Seat 2 noms seat 6
Seat 3 noms seat 5
Seat 4 noms whoever most liberal so far

Then this plan stops and we go based on reads gotten so far. Thoughts?

Strategy is booooooring just follow ur heart

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This game would be so much more based if there were communists not just libs and fash

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Well I have a good liberal strat we can use for elections but me being last at table makes the suggestion kinda funny

The strat is as follows. We need to get reads on everyone. Things cycle through a table in a row. 7 people at table. To get the most reads quickly we should have elections go as follows

Seat 1 noms seat 7
Seat 2 noms seat 6
Seat 3 noms seat 5
Seat 4 noms whoever most liberal so far

Then this plan stops and we go based on reads gotten so far. Thoughts?

this is super boring and not the point of the game

More proof cakez is a lib

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voting start

Privately submit votes for the following government:

president

sircakez

and chancellor

unwnd

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election tracker: 0/3

Fuck u cakez, the betrayal

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Vote nein if ur a lib

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Libs aren’t content to just sit and watch fucking /betrayal/ smh

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voting start

Privately submit votes for the following government:

president

sircakez

and chancellor

unwnd

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election tracker: 0/3

Fuck u cakez, the betrayal

UNWND IS MORE LIBERAL THAN YOU
THE BERNIE SANDERS TO YOUR BETO

THAT WOULD MAKE HIM LEFT U GOON

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If we ever get to fash 3 and I’m president I’m picking fash and shooting cakez

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yeah ok i had three r obv

lol

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Never give Cakez authority again

The Ja has incriminated him and you should be thanking me

No, ur also suspect

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Also obvious nein on whoever unwnd chooses

Smh at letting cakez choose the next person clockwise

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I have presubmitted my nein

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lol fuck u

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lol fuck u

Had to test your faith

This is maybe slightly libby but you’re still going nowhere near power again

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unwnd is fascist scum with cakeboi

Obviously not lol

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Which rube believes the 3F raise ur hand

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Who hasn’t neined yet

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Pick me toad

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Jeff bezos is a job creator

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Nancy pelosi is a wonderful politician

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Keri starmer is doing a really good job in a tough time

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Pooky might be fash, that’s a gutread

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Pooky/cakez?

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toad/poker/peta
book it

lol

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Pooky might be fash, that’s a gutread

your gut is garbage did you not eat dinner or something

Actually no

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I’m omw home now then I’m gonna eat

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NICE

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NEINS ARE FASH

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I sent in JA but if this fails again im gonna flame MEna so hard for the rest of the game

Not gonna happen pookybear

We gonna get so liberal

We gonna pass means tested UBI just like Stella creasy dreams of

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Lmao

I said “pass the lib” to dats meaning that’s the one I wanted to use

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Then had huge panic that he’d interpret that as me wanting to play the fash lmao

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Why did u nein peta, that’s sus

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I already claimed

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Read my posts dammit

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Why did u nein peta, that’s sus

i wanted to be pres and didnt trust toad

Hmmm

Maybe this is okay

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Toad what did u get?

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Ja on this

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Why would we nein

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We need to test a new pair

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I absolutely don’t believe anything cakez says lol

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Unwnd I’m not sure on but is probably green actually

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I wanna test unwnd when I get pres

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Also if anyone gets more than 1 more F basically confirmed cakez is lying

I lean lib on toad

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I wanna test unwnd when I get pres

You should never test! Always vote liberal every chance you get. I not like this comment

What r u talking about

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Hmm

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I could see peta or poker being hitler maybe

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Strong objections to unwnd?

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I just got in gimme 5

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Talk amongst ur selves and do botín hmech stuff

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I'm on laptop now

who can I pick? so not peta/poker

leaves cakez (lol no), unwnd, toad, pooky

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I feel like toad is a safer check (unless hitty) whereas unwnd greening would be more useufl

but then again I think unwnd probably just passes green here to try and look safe?

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no offence, but is there any reason to bring pooky into the rotation and not just go me/toad -> peta/poker until we red again?

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toad

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it seems much more likely that you got 2f1l given the other claims than that you got 3f

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toad claim

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I had 2F1L

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toad is either confirmed lib or hitler

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I've now seen first hand 3F's

toad seems v unlikely to be lying which means that between us we've had 4F

which means that cakez is confirmed lying

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but it ALSO means that I think that peta is probably confirmed lying

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hang on, no noms for a second pls

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cakez -> unwnd : claimed 3F
toad -> mena : 2F 1L
peta -> poker : 2F 1L
mena -> toad : 2F 1L

now I KNOW that 3 of the Fs from my time in power are real

plus we know there was at least 1 F from cakez to unwnd

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it's a hard throw to pass F with your buddy on turn one right? so that means unwnd probably telling the truth about receiving 2F?

which means that 5Fs are accounted for

which means peta is lying

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nominate poker I think

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I think who you nom isn't gonna really matter cause I think you're Fasc and there's very little lib cards left

we've had like, all of them?

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sorry, wrong way round -> it's basically only libs left @uwnnd?

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there's only 6Fs in the deck right?

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there's only 6Fs in the deck right?

6L

oh fuckin lmao

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well this was probably a horrible misplay then lol

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shoulda gone poker->peta

my bad guys

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I already ja'd too

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I'm very confused by what the implication is now

so it's 11F 6L ?

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and we have

FFF FFL FFL FFL claimed?

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only probably one of the first Fs was an L meaning of the remaining 5 there should be uhhh 2L ?

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anything wrong with poker + peta? one of them is probably hitler but like whatever

probably we try to just chain back and forth between you/me and poker/peta until we hit another red

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I'm totally sold that toad is either lib or hitty

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let's move it along people I wanna go make dinner

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also @poker yes, IF true that's correct

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poker, pick peta

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A REMINDER THAT PETA IS LITERALLY OUTED SCUM

how lmao

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you can't do toad, he was in govt with me just now

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peta or unwnd

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scum are gonna have to out soon if the streak continues

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I'M BEING FRAMED

I mean if we start getting low on people who aren't susp then we consider

I kinda wish it was me toad in the final ones we get to see before shuffle but here we go

if poker/peta have fash and are setting you up it comes out after the shuffle because they can't keep going for cred by passing libs

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im gonna auto vote nein for everything

even on me uwu

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simmer down lads, let's keep this friendly

I'm the only toxic player here and I want to keep that reputation exclusive to myself

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why is poker obvtown?

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this is so funny if cakez is fash but actually did draw 3F lmao

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why is poker obvtown?

Involvement in past liberal pass + play

seems a little dubious

like I'm not even totally sure on toad and we've passed 2 libs together

I don't get why poker can't just be slowplaying fypov


I actually think one of the townier things he did was introduce the boring strat thing right at the start

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this is so funny if cakez is fash but actually did draw 3F lmao

The best world is where this happened and Unwnd is hitler

claim it

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didn't mean to quote there

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toad, why were you thinking cakez/peta was F/F?

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clearly he should cop peta, right?

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if he cops unwnd it makes it a threeway which is harder to keep out of the game

now I think we bring in pooky?

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poker, what's your full claim ?

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so poker/peta are in a hard claim-off

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Correct me if I'm wrong but that basically means no libs are left right

it shuffles anyway now, no?

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what's the claim at?

FFF FFL FFL FFL FFL ? which if true would mean LL are left, which seems... unlikely

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can we get to a toad/me govt again?

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kinda want you to pick me, poker

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yeah but I'd feel better about it being poker!lib and peta!fash if he checks me and confirms

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either way, I am right in thinking that we no longer want either of peta/poker in govt, right?

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Still say check pooky

I am really tired and zoning out

I don't really see how pooky!check is helpful

doesn't that just set up more confusion if he claims red?

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I guess checking unwnd is okay

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if unwnd greens do we want him in

feel like the answer is yes, maybe

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i mean this kind of play is normal enough for lib/town pooky yeah? i mean i don't have a great memory but i think they play like this normally

nothing pooky has done screams fash to me

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equally he doesn't scream lib

I think he's justifiably irritated about not being in govt and that's NAI

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did you eat something mena

some crisps, yeh

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Holy crap!!!

unwnd and peta are both fascist!

hmmmm

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toad, how much do you trust me?

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oh wait it's actually more of how much do I trust you lol

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idk I think I should prob stay paired with toad?

maybe you pooky?

but I'm struggling to decide if it think fash is you/poker OR peta/unwnd

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toad, how much do you trust me?

willing to lose if you're fascist at this point. everyone else is scummy I have nothing else in this world

I need to think for a moment

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wait, how can it be poker unwnd? why does poker bus him instead of claiming green?

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toad, what do you think of cakez/pooky?

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and if it reds again, that implies that cakez and poker are fash, I think

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wait, how can it be poker unwnd? why does poker bus him instead of claiming green?

it creates distance between them? granted I haven't thought about it very much, but I don't see why they wouldn't bus

I haven't either lol but it feels like it has a big backfire risk? like if unwnd gets frozen out as well as freezing out poker/peta

that's both fash out and hitler is basically on his own vs 3 libs

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peta you can wink nod me to your leader

im liberal

dude we have 4 votes between me and your fascist team

just let me throw in peace

can u not

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okay, if we Ja this what happens if it reds

hmm

I don't think I want cakez to have the presidential?

think I prefer neining this and unwnd until we have toad again

unless that fucks us in terms of a president afterwards

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what's your complete fash solve @cakez?

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I haven't voted yet

I'm honestly really susp of poker and I feel like cakez is much less likely to be fash after realising it's 11F 6L not the other way round

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I think I prefer nein here and having a tough choice on chancellor if it comes down to it tbh

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I trust toad more than cakez

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I'm not sure on poker town at all

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unwnd pick whoever this is definitely getting nein'd

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probably poker over peta

probably poker fash you mean or probably poker lib?

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poker why did you ja that

actually, good point

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oh wait no it does make sense internally

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i think if we do unwnd/toad we can have toad as president after and that seems ideal

err

what?

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I mean I think toad can only be hitler or lib

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okay, I'm neining

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pooky can u stop

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like ur just being kind of a shithead now if ur a lib

I get it's annoying not being in govt and I find it frustrating myself but that's no reason to try and throw

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please can we go faster I really want to eat lol

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i mean i was pretty close to backing a pooky chancellor nomination

okay this is encouraging because I was thinking the exact same way

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Why would you nein yourself as town president????

for the same reason I nein'd myself as chancellor?

don't feel okay with a govt with unwnd in it

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I think it's prob poker/cakez fash but I'm always prone to having my reads ass backwards

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maybe pooky hitty?

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please can we go faster I really want to eat lol

you can eat while playing dude

yeh but I can't make food while playing

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toad if ur hitty then well played

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I don't really think you are but like if pooky is lib and you've been slow playing then I think you've handled it very competently

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secret hitler is so fun when you get libread and to be part of the govts

and really not that fun if you get fashread and frozen out all game

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If you vote nein on this you're literally hitler

i voted nein

I got 2F

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i got 3f. chancellor is supposed to claim first but unless mena wants to claim he discarded a liberal i don't see the point.

i just choose mena for president yeah?

I already claimed my dude

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i got 3f. chancellor is supposed to claim first but unless mena wants to claim he discarded a liberal i don't see the point.

i just choose mena for president yeah?

I already claimed my dude

no pedits in marathon

oh right, gotcha

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Cakez

how do you know cakez is fash, unwnd?

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can everyone say who they want me to pick

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I mean I'm p sure that hitty is either toad or pooky so pooky seems like an obviously terrible choice

so it's more who do I think are the fash and who do I think are libs of poker/cakez and unwnd/peta

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I think I'm leaning to it being pooky/cakez/poker

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yeah, I was leaning unwnd

pick: unwnd

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o fuck wait does poker ja'ing this mean it's a loss

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I'm so Liberal that I put my ballot as Bernie Sanders even when he lost primary

I'm so liberal that I still have a "not my president" badge that I wear every day

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I can't choose toad, he was in govt

special election is only for president

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okay, I need to do some math

it was 3F

what's the probability of drawing 3F twice in a row

because I'm either shooting toad or pooky here

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poker cannot be hitty, I think -> he'd have to be mental to make a play this ballsy if he's hitty as it basically means he never gets chancellor

unwnd... seems a lot less likely as his partner than cakez? so cakez/poker seems to be basically conf fash, right?

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peta/unwnd, help me out here

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is this an auto loss if I miss? I think it is right because scum just stall out the game until we get random

and if we get a random fash after 3 fails then poker will be president and can shoot a lib for the win

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what to do

trust the read or the math

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unwnd/peta should I trust the math and shoot toad or trust my gut and shoot pooky?

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how do cakez or poker make sense as hitler ?

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card claims are FFF FFF

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aghhhhhhhh

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okay sorry everyone give me 2 mins to try and think this through

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shoot pooky

sorry if wrong

my logic is this:

the teams seem like they have to be peta/unwnd/toad or poker/cakez/pooky

if it's one of the latter three, then even if pooky isn't hitty (and he seems most likely to me) then by shooting in that grouping, I remove the possibility of it being that group as fash and it probably is peta/unwnd/toad

in that case, toad seems like the obvious fash, and if we just stall on the govt 3 times and it's at worst a random draw of 6/6

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sigh

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I'm pretty sure we should just be neining everything right, so can we just default straight to the rand draw to save time?

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like if we all agree

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surely fypov pooky must have been lib, cakez ?

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I don't think cakez/poker make sense as hitty tho

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and they were the only possible team to go with pooky

which means that the team must be you/peta/unwnd

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I'm thinking you're probably hitty actually toad, and were counting on me not shooting you despite the 3F claim

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talk me through that

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I'm so confused

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I'm tired, I'm hungry

can we just let this go to the rand

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ehh, I'm okay with losing to toad

I don't think I would've been okay with losing to pooky and it was a hard choice

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I'm probably gonna ja just to speed up the game tbh

don't really mind losing to toad

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nom: unwnd

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nom: peta

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ja

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oh fuck me

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I had 2l 1f

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I was hoping peta would pass fash which would confirm (peta/unwnd/toad) where toad must be hitler and I could shoot for the win

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it still could be that team if peta realised that was my play

or toad is right and poker is hitler who was stuck in a bad spot

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wait a second

hang on before we do anything let me think a moment about the conf!not hitty stuff and pooky being gone

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hmmm

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so toad is claiming fash

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so it was probably

FFL FFF FLL

which means uh

5F left and 3L

so the rand chance isn't great and we prob need to try to form a govt

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What did you discard mena!

giving peta a choice at this point in game and or discarding a L is dumb if you did that!

yeh, I let peta choose

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no

why would you joke at this point, felt more like wifom

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unwnd + who as chanc if it cant be you or me

right this is the fucking nightmare world

I think we rand it here because there's a non-minimal chance that it's you/toad/unwnd and you knew I'd shoot toad if you played the fash