Mini Normal 2215: Deco [Complete]

[VFP]

Everyone below me is town.
VOTE: DGB

[VFP]

VOTE: gerain
Tbh the pointing out of the not claiming vt thing feels weird to me.

I'm not sure how to do this.

Last game - which you were in - I claimed VT and everyone seemed to shout at me. This game, I said I wasn't straight up claiming vanilla town people say I am suspicious!

It would be a bold move for Scum Gera to try this tactic.

[VFP]

So far in the VFP block

Gera
Bugs
Jake
Titus
T3
Roden
Egix
Ex

[VFP]

Weekend stuff
I'll post later

[VFP]

What's this mean?

It's just the names from page 1.

[VFP]

We're not limming T3 today though.
I'm happy with my vote on DGB.

[VFP]

You and Roden.

Why are you voting T3 then?

[VFP]

Yeah this is different from what I've seen with DGB.

[VFP]

Are you challenging this on page flocking SEVEN?

Which part are you talking about? The T3 vote or the Jake / Roden part?

[VFP]

It's irrelevant if DGB is basic scum or traitor.
Scum DGB is good for us regardless, and this doesn't seem like town DGB.

[VFP]

Your asking why I haven't updated my T3 vote.

But you're scum, thanks for outing yourself :dancingbanana:

I'm more inclined to know why you're not adding pressure to Jake or Roden with a comment like that.
You were happy to jump on my for questioning it, so what made you doubt Jake or Roden as scum here?

[VFP]

You seem to be reading the game... did you miss the part about me scumreading them for traitor-fishing?

This is my concern though.
You scum read them for this but yet you sit on T3.
I call you out and then you vote me. So this just tells me your scum read isn't genuine here and you're not worried about voting away from T3.
Either you're scum with 1 / both or you're scum knowing that both are town.

I feel if both were town you wouldn't have worried about placing a vote there though.

[VFP]

Sorry, have acquired a puppy today.
Do not expect quality posts from me today
VOTE: dripping goof ball

Nice, what breed?

[VFP]

I hope everything is okay, Titus.

[VFP]

CockerPoo. Called.ginny

Those ones are cute!
I love all doggos!

[VFP]

[VFP]

Just sayin'

It's a statistic based on my general observations replacing in.

I agree as someone who replaces into a lot games.
Early day1 replace outs I'm talking about.

[VFP]

I guess it means that Bugs is just super serious.

[VFP]

Well I don't think Ranny and DGB are S/S here with that voting.
Same with either slot on Roden since scum theatre wouldn't be needed there.

[VFP]

Welcome back to the game I guess.
Might want to check first with the mod if you can post though.

[VFP]

I doubt Jake starts it then pushes it as scum. It's most likely a town mindset of what others are doing in the game.

Regardless I agree with Ranny on cw. It's not even just a waste though, cw is actively looking for a reason to avoid doing anything.
Okay, even if you need a PC to do RQS, what are you doing? I play 95% of my time on mobile, even if I'm on the PC already and I sure majority of players do, so what's the issue?

VOTE: cw357

[VFP]

I think its random question stage...
If I'm right it's just stuff like what do you prefer scum or town and pointless things like that.

[VFP]

That's E1.

[VFP]

Doesn't scum cw just claim machine cop now?

[VFP]

Macho*.
Although a cop that can tell if you're a toaster or not would be handy.

[VFP]

UNVOTE: cw

I have to think this over to who I owe, but Jessica, Titus, and T3 get town reactions there.

[VFP]

Perhaps so, but I have a feeling a doctor might not be very useful this game.

No, doctor is going to be extremely helpful this game if T3 is town.

But I can do VOTE: Excall

I'm not feeling like DGB as scum right now so I'd rather away from that.

[VFP]

How would a Doctor be helpful if T3 is town?

Because T3 told us that there's a macho.
Scum want to get Macho over Doc, so if doc hits right then a town life is saved, including PRs.

The threat here to scum is the Macho plus a plausible vig, not the Doc.
The annoyance to scum here is the Doc.

[VFP]

Why are we believing this claim?

It sounds like something scum would do to out the real doctor.

No.

[VFP]

If there was a CC you all know my motto day 1...
I don't disbelieve the claim. At worst cw is scum Doc.

[VFP]

I think scum cw screws themselves there regardless though.

[VFP]

If I'm scum, my go-to fakeclaim is going to be scum or tracker.

Are you scum or tracker?

[VFP]

I'm not taking for granted that we might have a vig, since personally I see no indication of one.
Also, strongman might be a possibility.

So this is the problem with no vig and a loyal doctor.
Why is the doctor loyal? This is a normal so no re direct or bus fuckery.
If just a scum doc, then why if there's already a macho cop?

It's not set, but it's very plausible if cw is doc regardless of alignment.

[VFP]

It's Friday evening so I'm out for boardgames, and even more so to get me excited, it's the start of the Euro's tonight!
I doubt I'll do much over the weekend but I'll try!

Have a great night everyone!

[VFP]

I hope you feel better soon T3!

[VFP]

I'm still happy to lim that slot.
The replace out was NAI.

[VFP]

Not if he’s mafia loyal doctor.

Then there's no need to claim loyal.
As loyal suggests a vig, I would expect cw scum to try and get.a.scum buddy shot to clear them as scum.

[VFP]

KA was Bugs.
I didn't scum read Bugs.

[VFP]

So I like T3, Jake, and cw as town.
DGB and Titus town lean too.

I'm trying to work out Gera here, and if their new style either align is this or not.
I just don't see the gain as scum Gera though.

[VFP]

VOTE: Rodrn

I'm not against a Gera vote but I think Roden has a better chance of flipping red.
I also don't really want T3 to be the lim.

[VFP]

What play and what game?

[VFP]

So what's the chances that cw flaked and didn't do an action?

[VFP]

What I find puzzling, and I don’t know if cw’s slot will help me figure this out, is why someone would attack the target that a doctor called.

It suggests a roleblocker.
But I want to see if an action was even made.

I don't feel like scum kill there if cw is scum.

[VFP]

I guess so.
Well we'll know more hopefully with a replace in.

[VFP]

Weekend stuff.

VOTE: Kidamn

Thats E1

779 looks to be lining up T3 if KA is town? Scum flip probably paints Egix as town though.
But it's about time we got some pressure going.

[VFP]

There’s no reason for the cop to hold back now. If the cop is real, it’s either Titus or VFP.

After yesterday, I don’t even want to vote until everyone has said what they need to.

I'm not cop

[VFP]

I have a theory. Now I know the last time I said this we ended up limming the doctor but I have a theory.
All the other prs out today.
The cop claims vt,the outs tomorrow.

The cop will most likely have used both of their shots by now, so how does this help? Wouldn't it just make us risk losing the peeks?

No. Even if the cop dies it still helps us. I know this sounds like it makes no sense.

How?

[VFP]

I wonder if scumT3 was just trying to out a cop and the informed is that there's a macho in the game? (Just a scum informed of course)
The 2 shot is irrelevant at that stage as it could be argued as giving false information to trick scum.

[VFP]

The 2 shot is irrelevant at that stage as it could be argued as giving false information to trick scum.

The mod cannot lie to scum. That would not be normal.

I'm talking about T3 claiming to lie as town to trick scum.

[VFP]

Well if T3 uses it for the reasoning I'm insta locking my vote.
So it's not really bailing.

[VFP]

I read that very different.

[VFP]

I read that very different.

What was your interpretation?

The plan was just bad and basically confirmed cw when a vig wasn't known, and even now no sign of a vig.
The response just seems to be Jake disagree that it works imo.

The wording of Jake shows the opposit of hinting to vig and basically confirming he's not a vig. Otherwise there's not holes in the plan, and he can just ask why could there be a vig.

[VFP]

So T3 is active atm. I'll give until the morning otherwise I'm voting there.
We're in an important stage and there's obviously no cop claims so T3 is lying.

[VFP]

VOTE: T3

Thats E1.
I don't believe town T3 lies here and I've never seen it before.

[VFP]

UNVOTE: T3

Go on then Ranny, entertain me.

[VFP]

Roden where to you hint to targeting DGB?

[VFP]

Then why would you assume that a replace in knows where to protect?
This seems just odd.

[VFP]

Why would A50 go, oh this player hammered town, let's protect?

[VFP]

You keep following my votes, and yet try to pin it on me?
I'm really not liking that, especially while re-reading under the assumption that T3 is scum.

Where did I try and pin it on you?

[VFP]

VOTE: T3

I agree.
T3 knows my thoughts on masons with abilities from previous games so to be posting this is just weird.

Back to E1.

[VFP]

VOTE: VFP

I don't see how 990 and vfp being a mason encryptor ever reconcile.

That's a passive not an ability.

[VFP]

I can confirm that me and Jake discussed it and that I'm in the hood.

[VFP]

We both know it's a passive.
It's one of the reasons I said getting me in the hood is good. Town Egix we're basically upgrading the masons.

[VFP]

I don't see passive the same as active myself.
There's a difference to masons having an irrelevant passive to having an ability that can be used and discussed with.

[VFP]

VFP, did you ever crumb?

I kept posting that Jake is town as my crumb. But more as shutting down if I felt a push was there.
Last time I was Mason my crumb was seen day 1 by scum so I didn't want to do that.

[VFP]

VOTE: Gera

Gera only deciding to do something on Elo. This is scum.

Pedit I just was

[VFP]

I'm not sure why you're waiting on my vote anyway?

[VFP]

56 was a joke other than Jake 3rd.
My rules is always 3rd.

Last Mason game I spelt out Mason T3 on all the 3rd words.
I can show if needed

[VFP]

Okay, Wheme!

T

here's no reason I shouldn't sheep you day 1.

VOTE: T3

I have

3

town reads page 1.

Wheme
Meuh

T3

Pear has disappointed me already though with such a bland entrance!
I feel another push is going to happen

Also, since

M

arci isn't in the game, anyone not auto town me out of T3, Meuh, and Pear are scum.

Advice to

a

nyone new, feel free to add a profile picture. It helps other players identify you easily.
With that

s

aid, T3 never will it seems!

Just go

o

ver why 6 was considered as serious though, Wheme?
But it's

n

ow time for work so I'll pick this up later.

As I said, scum claim to have seen it day 1 in that game. But I always like to stick to the 3rd.
T3 being in this game and me telling him how I post Mason claims had me not want to go fully into it.

[VFP]

In that game, scum caught you because you were acting weird. No other reason. viewtopic.php?p=12763845#p12763845

Looks like the mod gave up before unlocking the pts, so, nothing I can do there.

At least don't pretend to read the game, as what you just said it just wrong...
Scum didn't catch me, I claimed to get scum day 1 which worked (I made a fake claim of Cop encase they had a roleblocker). They caught my partner because of me apparently though.
My point is that scum said I made us being masons obvious. It wouldn't be from calling T3 town because I do that a lot without reason, so it was obviously from my crumb.

T3, I will say you did a good job of dodging the NK. I was confident The Bulge wasn't the mason, so I thought it was Weuler. If I was scum in that situation, I probably would have made the same shot.

I knew T3 was mason, VFP made it overwhelmingly obvious (so much that at first I hesitated, thinking they might be trying protect their real partner by pretending to be paired with someone else, which would make sense along with VFP's kamikaze strat) and T3 himself slipped a handful of times. I left him alive intentionally because I knew he would never vote me.

[VFP]

If you are scum, VFP and Jake do not have to be town. They could be bussing to set up a win.

It's arguable that you're doing the same.
It's more plausible Gera is flipping scum here.

[VFP]

Gera knows this and is playing naive there.

[VFP]

I'm playing dumb with these two.
I would appreciate it if others join

What is this even trying to say?
You and Titus are pushing together. There's no town mindset of playing AtE by trying to look out numbered.

[VFP]

VOTE: VFP

Let's see if Ranny is town or not.

[VFP]

Wtf?

[VFP]

I did suspect that when you messaged to kill me by accident.

[VFP]

I feel bad for DGB and it's genuine confusion.
I was scum!

[VFP]

No idea.

[VFP]

I thought it was 6 votes, not 4...

[VFP]

Geratim, do you agree that Egix not checking us is a scumclaim?

Or just let Egix decide! >:|

[VFP]

Welcome to Who's line is it anyway!

Is it your line?

[VFP]

The scumteam is Not_Mafia, Korina, and Noraa.

They can't keep getting away with this!

[VFP]

Thanks for the game all. I had fun with the scum team.
It was a fun game overall!

Well tried town and thanks Umlaut for modding.

I'm surprised no one was wondering why I voted Gera over Titus.