Open 820: The Siege of Aurelia — Game Over!

Dunnstral · Post Post #86 (isolation #0) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:50 am

In post 29, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 8, catboi wrote:I'm going to treat any early movement as a scumclaim, though.
So, about this...

I'd have been ok with this if they went to the keep with this maneuver instead, because theoretically the different mechanics mean it doesn't matter (not considering swaps)

But they didn't, so I'm not

Dunnstral · Post Post #87 (isolation #1) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:53 am

Also, I have a bad feeling about Skitter

Dunnstral · Post Post #90 (isolation #2) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:30 pm

Since this game doesn't have standard eliminations I don't understand what 'they should go' implies here

Dunnstral · Post Post #91 (isolation #3) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:30 pm

Or at least, we're not at that phase yet

Dunnstral · Post Post #102 (isolation #4) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:38 pm

In post 93, skitter30 wrote:I have a bad feeling about dunn

Good to know

Dunnstral · Post Post #103 (isolation #5) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:38 pm

In post 97, T3 wrote:Any objections to Peng/skiter/me in the keep that are not ssbm?

I have an objection

It's page 4 and there's no basis behind this pairing

Dunnstral · Post Post #109 (isolation #6) » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:49 pm

I'm not sure where your confidence in penguin being town comes from

Dunnstral · Post Post #125 (isolation #7) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:56 am

In post 115, T3 wrote:Like I think this obviously isn't my scumgame, from an outsider's POV. I've tried tweaking my townplay so I hyperpost at a similar ratio but the way I respond to scumreads is way different .

We're on page 5 with nothing decided yet (except for ssbm)

Dunnstral · Post Post #190 (isolation #8) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:05 pm

In post 184, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Dunnstral, unwnd, if either of you were to come to the Gate now with me, who would you want as a third and why?

I don't know

Dunnstral · Post Post #194 (isolation #9) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:10 am

In post 191, implosion wrote:
In post 172, T3 wrote:
In post 171, implosion wrote:My townish pile is similar to skitter's actually, but dropping the "maybe" on unwnd and swapping catboi for Penguin.

I don't know how to read dunnstral at all though.
If he's active then he's town.
The problem is that the one game I played with him shows that the converse of this is false, and he's not being especially active.

Do you consider him in this game so far to be active? If not, then how do you read him?

Neither is true

Dunnstral · Post Post #228 (isolation #10) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:49 pm

In post 195, T3 wrote:This game he's relatively more active than I've seen him as either alignment, actually.

Now this is definitely not true

Dunnstral · Post Post #234 (isolation #11) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:26 pm

I'm fine to let other people decid where I'm going and then kicking things into high gear from there.

I considered just entering the keep, because really what can other people do about that besides swap me, but have decided against taking any impulsive actions

Dunnstral · Post Post #246 (isolation #12) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:21 pm

In post 245, skitter30 wrote:
In post 229, unwnd wrote:I feel decent about Dunnstral
Uhhh i dislike this read

Good to know

Dunnstral · Post Post #301 (isolation #13) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:34 pm

In post 286, unwnd wrote:I have two scumreads now I think

I know I'm being vague but it will come to fruition, eventually

Going to take a guess at your scumreads: Skitter and Implosion

Dunnstral · Post Post #303 (isolation #14) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:07 am

Dunnstral · Post Post #304 (isolation #15) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:07 am

That is incorrect, and I don't know where you got that idea

Dunnstral · Post Post #337 (isolation #16) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:04 am

VOTE: Keep

Dunnstral · Post Post #500 (isolation #17) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:39 pm

In post 498, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 497, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 494, skitter30 wrote:i find the fact that unwnd took gate to be rather scummy honestly
I find unwnd scummy, yes.
Nope - I meant catboi

catboi didn't take gate

Dunnstral · Post Post #668 (isolation #18) » Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:08 pm

In post 658, catboi wrote:Need to hear from Dunn on why he hammered the keep.

I thought it was all town, looks like I was wrong.

Dunnstral · Post Post #670 (isolation #19) » Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:09 pm

I think solving the gate first is the most informative

Dunnstral · Post Post #676 (isolation #20) » Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:13 pm

In post 673, catboi wrote:I plan on casting my vote at the keep as kingmaker, yeah.

I would vote for you.

Dunnstral · Post Post #682 (isolation #21) » Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:19 pm

In post 678, catboi wrote:
In post 676, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 673, catboi wrote:I plan on casting my vote at the keep as kingmaker, yeah.
I would vote for you.
...okay then. I had a feeling that might have been a motivator for you. You're confident on me as town compared to last time?

I felt you were towny in this game compared to the past few times I've seen you as scum, yes

Dunnstral · Post Post #693 (isolation #22) » Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:28 pm

In post 691, implosion wrote:and I actually am thinking more that it's Dunn rather than catboi at keep but I digress.

What about the third person at the keep?

Dunnstral · Post Post #707 (isolation #23) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:50 am

It always comes down to the wall

Dunnstral · Post Post #709 (isolation #24) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:53 am

ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 707, Dunnstral wrote:It always comes down to the wall
Meaning?

Same as last run of this setup.

In post 703, T3 wrote:Either skitter/{SS/Peng} or implosion/unwnd I think? This swap makes no sense unless there isn't a 2-0 or 0-2 in wall or gate.

Why those pairs?

Dunnstral · Post Post #832 (isolation #25) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:07 pm

Scum team is T3, Something_Smart, and then one of skitter/implosion.

Luckily, it doesn't matter how hard scum shades me. I believe T3 is clearly scum in my group from their posts today, which is what I was waiting on.

Dunnstral · Post Post #834 (isolation #26) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:19 pm

I don't think catboi is going to impulsively vote for t3 so I'm not in a rush

Dunnstral · Post Post #835 (isolation #27) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:10 pm

Actually, why am I letting you question me like that's relevant? I claimed I'd vote for Catboi, what do you have to gain from pushing on me?

You and Infinity

Dunnstral · Post Post #836 (isolation #28) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:11 pm

Who do you want voted in the keep?

Dunnstral · Post Post #849 (isolation #29) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:30 pm

In post 842, skitter30 wrote:
In post 789, catboi wrote:to my posts in the last game of this, and he feels, on some level, like he is really trying to convince her he is town
I feel like this too
Honestly in my mind the game feels somewhat solved:
-implo at gate
- unwnd at wall
- vote t3 at keep

Exact opposite of my reads so you're probably scum

Dunnstral · Post Post #874 (isolation #30) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:01 pm

In post 873, unwnd wrote:I want my block resolved first

Why?

Dunnstral · Post Post #878 (isolation #31) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:03 pm

In post 876, catboi wrote:Hey, Dunn, you still think I'm town?

Yes

Dunnstral · Post Post #881 (isolation #32) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:05 pm

In post 880, skitter30 wrote:Ugh i feel like that's a bad idea

Why?

Dunnstral · Post Post #890 (isolation #33) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:16 pm

So what do you want to happen in the keep?

Dunnstral · Post Post #913 (isolation #34) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:56 pm

In post 912, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I'm coming around on unwnd, and knowing catboi is town will solidify that.

I'm also town and think unwnd is town.

Dunnstral · Post Post #980 (isolation #35) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:01 pm

OK...

I'm still leaning t3/S_S as mafia

Dunnstral · Post Post #981 (isolation #36) » Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:04 pm

I'm ready to vote now except that I don't want to leave unwnd/s_s/Penguin as the last few alive if penguin isn't sure of what they're doing

my delay was mostly to let other people weigh in, mostly the gate. Actually unwnd/s_s have both kind of taken a back seat

Dunnstral · Post Post #1013 (isolation #37) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:42 pm

VOTE: Catboi

Dunnstral · Post Post #1024 (isolation #38) » Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:43 pm

UNVOTE: catboi

So we can solve the other group before we are hammered

Dunnstral · Post Post #1041 (isolation #39) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:23 am

In post 1034, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1026, Something_Smart wrote:By the way I haven't ignored the request for a case. I was hoping to wait until the Keep flips because there's still a chance of Dunn scum who wanted to throw off the Wall, but I guess I can do one assuming T3 is scum, since it's pretty unlikely that he isn't.
Should I just go ahead and assume that T3 is flipping scum?

Why does it matter to you?

Dunnstral · Post Post #1081 (isolation #40) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:49 pm

In post 1054, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Also just feel like unwnd got quiet after parking his vote on S_S.

I'm here to play devil's advocate though, I like to put the possibilities out there and weigh them

In post 1055, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Maybe catboi and Dunnstral could weigh in

I don't think Unwnd going quiet is an indicator that they're scum

Dunnstral · Post Post #1083 (isolation #41) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:51 pm

I don't have a strong read on S_S here, but last game I felt they were town over their opponent in the 1v1, and this game they don't feel towny, they're like neutral, while Unwnd doesn't feel like scum

Dunnstral · Post Post #1087 (isolation #42) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:11 am

VOTE: catboi