Micro 1025: Would You Like to be My Hydra?

[Thor Ragnarok]

Ho Ho Ho

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VOTE: Enchant

Cool

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Gotcha

VOTE: Dwlee

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The mafia should just outright claim

We can misexecute town and all have them join the mafiosos and then everyone can win

[Thor Ragnarok]

I will start us off

I am mafia

[Thor Ragnarok]

There's issue.

Everyone can't win. Even if we murder mafia to not let them win too fast, in situation 2 towns+1 maf, these two townies can't win, because game will end immediatly after it as parity.
And considering how funny person with 6 hydras will look in this situation...

Who cares about that

Let those two townies go to the gutter

[Thor Ragnarok]

Do you want the two valiant mafiosos to lose? Who have put in so much hard work to make mafia games entertaining, and to suffer for us?

Or two good for nothing townies who misexecute and rage game after game?

The choice is simple

[Thor Ragnarok]

We can play some fun minigames like connect 4 or conspiracy to decide which townies get to be eliminated or killed at night

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[Thor Ragnarok]

Good call, Dwlee

VOTE: bugspray

Let's policy execute the hard lurker before they get a chance to post

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[Thor Ragnarok]

If you vote me out I'll just come back from the dead to join your scum hydra and obvscum it

Weigh your options

[Thor Ragnarok]

But you never even said hi, Dwlew

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[Thor Ragnarok]

But you never even said hi, Dwlew

I can say hi when you hydra me

Only if you promise you're scum

[Thor Ragnarok]

Who wants to play mafia

UNVOTE:

How would we do that? Isn't that game for tryhards

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I thought you were reaction-testing.tm

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I'm touched

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gg

Does this mean I get to hammer myself now?

[Thor Ragnarok]

I don't see why he can't just be lying? He's almost telling people to not vote him

To me it read, that he will hydra with the scum he thinks is voting him and obvscum as revenge, which isn’t the same.

I think that scum probably would play differently in this setup? Don’t you?

Correct

And I have perfect reads so I'm gonna pinpoint whoever scum is that's voting me

Yes, I'm talking about

you

, person who's reading this now

[Thor Ragnarok]

Same

If I was scum this game I would just claim scum and enforce the strategy I was suggesting earlier

No subtle implying nonsense

[Thor Ragnarok]

What I did was joking while as scum it would've been dead serious

You can tell from how it is

[Thor Ragnarok]

@mod when is bugspray going to get modkilled because I scumread them? Like are you even rooting for the town or what?

[Thor Ragnarok]

What were you, Infinity?

Also, the hydras become two flips for one now, and very valuable votes

[Thor Ragnarok]

Game is 4v5 now

[Thor Ragnarok]

How do you know you were killed by scum and not vigged?

[Thor Ragnarok]

You were kinda scummy yesterday

[Thor Ragnarok]

So what were you?

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Oh yeah

[Thor Ragnarok]

I am completely and utterly town, I promise. Join my hydra and I can have a heart to heart with you, and it'll be very obvious then that I'm town.

Infinity, we can vote you out today if you want and you and Ydrasse can join my hydra. I'm really good at looking town in a PT so I'm fairly confident I can convince you I'm town in a hydra.

[Thor Ragnarok]

I'd probably join Ydrasse/Infinity so I can prove them wrong

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Why are you ignoring me, Infinity

I'm going to vote you

[Thor Ragnarok]

Should we kill Enchant together and settle our differences? Look inside your heart

VOTE: Enchant

[Thor Ragnarok]

Infinity, we can vote you out today if you want and you and Ydrasse can join my hydra. I'm really good at looking town in a PT so I'm fairly confident I can convince you I'm town in a hydra.

Should we do this? Or would you rather I join your hydra?

Either way I want to talk to you in a PT so you can see my shining towny vibes and change your mind

[Thor Ragnarok]

Infinity, we can vote you out today if you want and you and Ydrasse can join my hydra. I'm really good at looking town in a PT so I'm fairly confident I can convince you I'm town in a hydra.

Should we do this? Or would you rather I join your hydra?

Either way I want to talk to you in a PT so you can see my shining towny vibes and change your mind

you realize you get the players role pm and become their alignment when you hydra with them?

t3 feels pretty towny to me, like he just doesn't care. he said once that he explains himself more when scum. and i buy his townslip

Oh, so there's no point then

Why do you want me in your hydra PT then?

[Thor Ragnarok]

Infinity, we can vote you out today if you want and you and Ydrasse can join my hydra. I'm really good at looking town in a PT so I'm fairly confident I can convince you I'm town in a hydra.

Should we do this? Or would you rather I join your hydra?

Either way I want to talk to you in a PT so you can see my shining towny vibes and change your mind

You understand that we’re not supposed to vote out slots we tr, right?

I would prefer neither of you be the elim today.

Hmm, who do I vote then? Infinity could've been scum who was vigged, but she might be town now that she's joined Ydrasse

[Thor Ragnarok]

Maybe Enchant?

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Oh yeah, I keep forgetting about the VT flip because it wasn't colored green in the mod ISO

[Thor Ragnarok]

I can hammer test here. If Enchant doesn't hammer me here, I think he's town

VOTE: Thor

[Thor Ragnarok]

UNVOTE: Thor

I got scared of Enchant's silence

[Thor Ragnarok]

How can we hammer test before ELO??

I mean Enchant would hammer me because he knows I'm town and he'd survive today

[Thor Ragnarok]

VOTE: No Elim

I don't mind no elimming. Can whoever gets killed at night join my hydra? I want a PT with someone to bounce thoughts off of

[Thor Ragnarok]

Enchant, why didn't you hammer me?

[Thor Ragnarok]

My scumread of Gypyx here is because he is completely absent right now.

why is being absent worse than being here and not solving? lol

@enchant you're in my poe and you're playing anti town

Imagine eluminating Jester for acting like Jester.

If you are still town, you will be dissapointed.

Why are you acting like a Jester?

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I'll vote Gypyx/bugspray if they promise to join me, I just want a PT

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Nah, they could be scum, and I'd figure that out quickly if they joined me

[Thor Ragnarok]

Ah, that sucks for them

Lot less fun

[Thor Ragnarok]

Ah, that sucks for them

Lot less fun

[Thor Ragnarok]

Why would scum!Infinity push me if I was gonna join their hydra PT? I already made it clear I would obvscum it if I joined a scum one

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T3 is definitely scum

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He's getting cheap hammers quicker than a construction worker does at a bargain sale

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Kill me please so I can join a hydra, I beg you, T3

In fact, I'll join your hydra and then make it look towny so they don't vote you out. We could win as scum together... think about it

[Thor Ragnarok]

If thor end up mafia in the end, i will be pissed.

Why? Will you miss me?

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T3, so will you kill me at night? I can help

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Join me Gypyx/bugspray!

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Well, do you want to be town or scum?

[Thor Ragnarok]

I also offer lightning shock therapy for Pain, which you seem to have

[Thor Ragnarok]

T3, so will you kill me at night? I can help

T3

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Yes

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Mafia Rolecop?

[Thor Ragnarok]

You'll never guess what my role is

[Thor Ragnarok]

I'm a Night 2 Cop

I didn't want to say but if we're all claiming, it might help

[Thor Ragnarok]

I'm checking T3 if he doesn't kill me

[Thor Ragnarok]

Should I hammer you? I'll do it if you promise to join me

[Thor Ragnarok]

VOTE: T3

What's your solve? Do you think scum are spread out on multiple slots or grouped in one hydra?

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Should I hammer you? I'll do it if you promise to join me

I would join the largest existing hydra which is ydrasse/infinity

I'm going to hammer you if you refuse

Consider your options

[Thor Ragnarok]

Fuck!

Thor, what the fuck.

What'd I do?

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You hammered him after calling T3 mafia for hammering.

Hypocrite.

I voted T3, not bugspray. You're mixing up the elim baits

[Thor Ragnarok]

It's probably just T3 as scum left and then we can find out if there's another who hasn't had their alignment changed

[Thor Ragnarok]

Let's vote out T3 and win the game!

[Thor Ragnarok]

T3 doesn't want me to check him tonight, he's definitely scum

[Thor Ragnarok]

I'm a Night 2 Cop

I didn't want to say but if we're all claiming, it might help

I'm checking T3 if he doesn't kill me

VOTE: thor
Scum doing a suicidal gambit.

Proof is all in the words

[Thor Ragnarok]

I don’t believe we have both a town tracker + a town cop.

Thor, I’m assuming AC, correct?

I think probably one scum between T3 and Thor.

I don't have any modifiers

[Thor Ragnarok]

i am thor motherfucking ragnarok
you are clearly loki in disguise

Nah, you're Gollum or maybe Smeagol on a good day

[Thor Ragnarok]

I thought you said you were night 2.

I meant modifiers like loyal or whatever

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Okay, fine, I'm not a cop, I was lying because I wanted scum to kill me so I could join a hydra

But if T3 is telling the truth then they won't kill me so what's the point

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UNVOTE:

I won't say what I actually am

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Who's hydra should I join?

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Scum is probably Enchant but I'm with dying and joining one of the hydras to talk it out first

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I'm fine with dying and...

[Thor Ragnarok]

But you voted for me and threw me to the dogs

Infinity and Ydrasse are probably town so I'll join them

[Thor Ragnarok]

Enchant must be scum

I would bet my hammer on it

[Thor Ragnarok]

Enchant has to be scum

I'm trying to convince Ydrasse and Infinity

[Thor Ragnarok]

Why Enchant

He randomly hammered me after he kept saying he thought I was town

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VOTE: Gypix

I have nothing to lose, expect for soul.

It actually looks like randomquessing, but considering suicidal Thor i am not willing to push him.

Ydrasse... Harder choice.

Because i was on 1% of charge on phone and didn't see that.
I quickhammer when it have sense or fun. If i quickhammer town here (and unless you are suicidal mafia, which is unlikely) it's possible lose to me. Unless i get nightkilled, which mafia will avoid most certranly.


No-Elim is mistake. Situation will not change, we just lose 1 member and we STILL end up in bad situation (6 town vs 2 mafia, after elumination 5vs2, + nightkill 4vs2, and welcome to "how the hell we quess mafia with so many members).

It's easier to deduce mafia in 3townvs2maf situation than in 4townvs2maf and stakes are same: Right or get dunked.

If thor end up mafia in the end, i will be pissed.

Well.

It's complicated now.

I don't believe in scumreading. Words, and such, i can't comprehend it. I try to use logic.

Given:
Thor tried to bait hammer from me. It's openly suicidal, because even if he is mafia, that's dumb risk being actually hammered. Did he hope i will get exactly this thought? Or did he knew he is not actually in danger?
I remember my first game as scum, where i won simple by acting like myself (being dumbo), here he seems have no idea what's going on, which gives me some de ja vu.

T3+Thor i told before, why he would agree to hammer his teammate? I am actually easy target to counterpush, he would easily save Thor and redirect murder on me instead.
So T3 not mafia with Thor. Period. And Thor seems town.

... Did i made same conclusion twice...

Ok.

Dwlee claimed PR. I don't really believe it, because there's nothing endangered him and it's like asking for bullet.
My claim also fake, obviously.

About Bug/Gypix. Idk, they could knew they are not in danger, but "kill T3 after me" sounded like from town.

Sooo. Well. Uuuh.
Why i am solving it again?

Do you expect me to hammer?

Well, too bad.

VOTE: Thor

[Thor Ragnarok]

Who is his partner?

Idk, and it might just be him on his own

[Thor Ragnarok]

We could no elim and slow the game down if T3 needs results

[Thor Ragnarok]

Let's just get the easy scum in Enchant out and then we can worry about if there's a partner tomorrow

Also we'll get that back from the dead track from T3

[Thor Ragnarok]

Let's just get the easy scum in Enchant out and then we can worry about if there's a partner tomorrow

Also we'll get that back from the dead track from T3

I actually feel the worst about Enchant.

T3, what do you think?

Enchant didn't give intent or even ask for a claim yesterday, and that was after saying I was town the whole day

No way he's town, and no one else fits the bill

[Thor Ragnarok]

He saw the opportunity come up and it was too juicy of a cheddar slice for him not to roast to halloumi fries

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He's trying to scare