Large Normal 235: Large Normal With No Multiball [Game Over]

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HELLO

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I've been on the replace list for this game for a bit, so I've already skimmed a decent portion of this game. I'm going back to reread the second half of day 1 and day 2, but consider my vote on Shrek for now.

Hi Gamma!

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Did I say reread? I mean read.

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I believe so.

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I haven't played in about a year, but is Alien a role that mods are actually putting in Normal games now? I know it's whitelisted, but a year ago, I don't recall seeing a single Normal with an Alien in it. Has the meta for Normal setups changed that much?

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My thought on D3 is... why did

they

not turbo Mega after their action claim? It blatantly contradicted everything. Yes Mega died fast but the fact that they argued a bit more after that raises an eyebrow.

Who is the "they" that you're referring to here?

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Well no shit? It was half the game ago, my two readslists were close together.

My reads changed quite a bit at this point though.

Please post a readslist.

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I think you're both town, if it helps.

@Nero and Gamma

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UNVOTE:

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Ok I think the no kill happened for 1 of 2 reasons:
1. I was JK'd and the target.
2. Scum wifom chose to no kill to see which direction today was going to go and give us less info to work with. This lines up with Shrek rescinding his claim because he would have been the logical NK after not rescinding yesterday. So scum killing anyone else would have confirmed him as scum. If scum were blocked from killing it was definitely aimed at me.

Since my role is now redundant, I'll claim. I am a watcher, which doesn't clear Gamma in anyway. N1 noone targeted Gamma, which I thought was where the NK would go if all the pushes on Gamma came from Town. I was trying to decipher Gamma's play after the result and I can see strange associatives with both MegA and Kitty that could indicate a scum!Gamma here. Town would have worked this out on my flip so that could be why I've been kept alive to keep people believing I have an inno on scum!Gamma. I don't think this necessarily clears Nero because his pushes on Gamma haven't really led anywhere.

Nero associatives with MegA are slightly better than Gamma but it's weird that MegA only felt comfortable pushing Nero. I think it's slim chances that both Nero and Gamma are town or Scum but more likely one is scum and it's probably Gamma.

You thought the N1 NK would be on Gamma in spite of him being the EOD counterwagon to town!T3? Why would scum do that >_> - it would reveal so much info about the Day 1 gamestate. Not to mention removing an easy mislim.

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Why did you choose to out yourself now Cheeky?

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But cheeks reasoning for "watching" gamma is pretty poor I think

Scum watcher would have had good reason to watch Gamma. Gamma was controversial enough to likely draw invests.

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Hey, with any luck, Shrek will flip scum RB, and Cheeky's role will resolve itself tonight.

I would prefer KittyTacky give a readlist before ending the day.

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Well no shit? It was half the game ago, my two readslists were close together.

My reads changed quite a bit at this point though.

Please post a readslist.

Previous list with flips:

post 1445, KittyTacky"]Locktown
{Me} - no explanation needed.
{Nero} - strong town vibes, seems to play somewhat different from his traitor game. Talks to people more. I can bin this.
Townlean
{Cheeky, Shrek} - haven't done anything noticeably scummy, good tone.
{STD} - meta read.

Town

Null-ish
{Meg, Norwe, Roden, DOTW, Dwlee}

Norwe town, Meg scum

{DGB, A50, ArcAngel}
{Testarossa}

Town

Scumlean
{Gamma}
Lockscum
{T3}

New list:
{Me} - I am still town.
{Nero} - Still willing to sheep him.
{DGB} - I trust their claim.
Townlean
{Cat Scratch Fever} - Maybe too early to read into them much but good tone and shows an interest in solving.
Null-ish
{Roden, DOTW, Dwlee} - Literally don't ping me as anything really.
{A50, ArcAngel} - Quiet but that's not enough for a strong scumlean.
{Cheeky} - Lots of shit takes despite an early good tone.
Scumlean
{Gamma}
{Shrek} - Slipped one or two times but claim is semi believable.
Lockscum
Nobody yet.

My only lead is on Shrek RN.

This list has to be fabricated.

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I really struggle trying to read bad/dumb town play /=/ scummy.

Where is Mega? VOTE: MegA

VC 2.6

cyrus62 (4) - Dwlee99, DrippingGoofball, Nero Cain, Roden
MegAzumarill (4) - CheekyTeeky, Shrek, Gamma Emerald, Dragon of the West
Shrek (2) - ArcAngel9, Save The Dragons
ArcAngel9 (1) - LicketyQuickety
KittyTacky (1) - MegAzumarill
DrippingGoofball (1) - cyrus62

Not voting: Almost50, KittyTacky

With 15 alive it takes 8 to exile.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2021-08-22 22:30:00) or when an exile is reached.

DoTW unlikely scum, doubt he would bring MegA up to even chances of being limmed with Cyrus at this point.

Scum were bussing though. Or at the very least, Shrek was hard bussing MegA.

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the only wagon that I am currently confident about is "Shrek", I said no to T3 wagon yesterday but nobody listened and i was right about what i said about T3 self hammer behavior is town indicative.

And i have a feeling that Mega wagon could be similar. I don't know much about him , he was all active at the beginning and then went away and then back during pressure and still nothing has changed after that. At this time, I put him null because i rather want to eliminate from my scum read pool.

and also on the other hand Cyrus may be not a bad idea. I can compromise but i still prefer Shrek.

If Shrek is red AA9 is green.

I agree with this one.

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KittyTacky, how can you have me placed lower than DBG if you trust its claim? Either we're both town, I'm scum with DGB, or I'm town with DGB scum. But there isn't a scenario where I'm scum and it's town.

You seem like a logical, measured player, and if you were town, I doubt you would've overlooked this point when trying to solve.

Make it make sense.

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DGB claimed loyal neighborizer and neighborized my slot night 1

This was all outed early day 2, which based on a quick iso skim, I'm pretty sure you've read...

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GG

TemporalLich, do you know when the setup review thread will be released?

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Nice reads Nero!

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Hey it happens. I wouldn't feel bad about it and just queue again. Maybe your next game will be more your jam.