Mini 2254 | Subreddit uPick | Fin

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Match 1 Begins.

cheese

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all alts are officially banned from existence

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Hi I am a mason.
(Btw I'm encouraged, but not mandated, to practice succinctness.)

okay so mastina never fakeclaims

except when she's sm

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ok um just acknowledging that i see your response and while i have ~thoughts~ i'm not sure i really want to comment on it

how serious is 20?

~

pooky are we gonna play charades this game?

20 is probably gutreads.

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Proxy vote to: Lady Lambdadelta

I'll vote whoever LLD does (even if it's me).

Peace offering: I promise never to vote LLD prior to D3-at-earliest (barring guilties on her). I reserve right to state suspicion, but promise not to act on it, and the proxy vote is proof of commitment to this promise.

I do not like this.

If you think that someone is a member of the mafia, voting them out is playing to your win condition if you are a member of the town.

I doubt Lady Lambdadelta would want you to play soft ball with her.

I thnk it's NAI, and that's just a personality thing. I do agree that it is pro-scum.

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Bweh, hey everyone.

VOTE: Dwlee

BWEH
VOTE: strangematter

T3 do you have a lot of experience with mastina?

10 or so games.

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i like bombay thus far

rogue this is notsci posting, yes?

What makes you tr Bombay?

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Match 1 Begins.

T3 do you wanna play a chess match

[roll]1d2[/roll]
1 i'm white

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townread is probably a little strong, more like it's p3 and i have Good Vibes Thus Far

same with that idiot ivan, i forgot to say

Original Roll String: 1d2

1 2-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

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Nf3

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1. Nf3 Nc6 2. e4

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sad, i learned so much reti gambit theory and then you play nc6 and i transpose into a nimzo declined

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she was watching the bucks play while watching this post and got confused?
or maybe she was hunting while posting. although it's pretty cold.

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Good evening everybody!

it’s going to be hard on marci

This statement made me cry, it's very rude.
I'm kidding, I do see how people will think this is tough for me but I will prove everybody wrong because of my solid game plan.

I will see you all later and post again when I feel like there's something actually interesting to talk about, au revoir!

~Marcistar

marci seems very subdued. I wonder why.

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1. Nf3 Nc6 2. e4 e5 3. d4

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marci seems very subdued. I wonder why.

She felt a little awkward but I know it’s tricky to break out of a typical posting style so I’m giving her the benefit of the doubt. It’s something to monitor though, yes.

my post 72 was just a bad joke

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idk anything about the chess game
we'll probably find out later i think

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i was replying to a post on page 4

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i get the bombay tr's pre-page 5, but the good vibes kinda just feel like noise

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I have thoughts about Mastina's whole thing and we will get to that when we have a moment, but let me take a moment to explain something.

This is a U-Pick. Cabd got to witness an experience in a game called Isekai U-Pick in which certain characters were unable to be given the love they were hoping for, which resulted in some pain.

I'm not one to play outguess the mod, but I do know that Cabd is the kind of moderator who seeks to provide all players with an enjoyable experience, doubly so in a u-pick.

So claiming that you are being given a grammar heavy post restriction that you didn't expect with your own pick feels extremely off base for me. I cannot fathom what subreddit you would have picked that this outcome would have come to you and you not expected it let alone been somewhat okay with it.

I just can't fathom it. I think this is fake and I think the amount of focus and attention Bombay is putting into it reads as scum.

this is waaaaaaay fake. i really don't see how this is an organic thought process.

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Maybe a flavor claim would be in order

Bombay, do you think your flavor is very indicative of your role? Because if it gets rid of the suspicion on you then that's good.

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You don't need to flavourclaim
I think you should have said enough to satisfy people already

VOTE: jjh
This reeks of whiteknighting. Especially because LLD is a very loud player.

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Skitter's prgression on us felt more natural in comparison.

My gut reaction to the situation was the jjh's was a pocket attempt hiding behind Skitter's initial defense.

Idk if marci goes along with such a fake post restriction tbh

This seems like a fair observation.

I dunno, Bombay is well over my day 1 bar for towniness and I don't think it's a fake PR

This feels like "me too! I am also defending you, and also calling you really townie!"

alright, bombay is probably town

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VOTE: Shiro

Clearly the second cat is the scum version of the town one

it's a bit late for rvs

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Maybe a flavor claim would be in order

Spoiler: These Images' Common Thread

(also a role 'crumb)

T++

:

Rogue > Suripoko > jjh927 > LLD > skitter30

T

:

T3

T?

:

StrangeMatter

N-T:

Dwlee99

N

:

Shiro

N-S:

Ivan

S

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SirCakez (always) > The Bombay

strange readlist.

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I have no idea where the townreads on Rogue are coming from.

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At the end of page 8 I'm scumreading Dwlee and and jjh, Dwlee's herosolve thing felt over the top.

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vote:dwlee

VOTE: LLD

Dwlee's iso is awful and contains multiple red flags wrt their alignment.

Including, asking for flavour claim, voting rogue and general faffing about over content.

They feel like they are building relationships instead of reads, and their reads list above is nonsensical.

Like this is the mastina tell, tbh.

lld is probably town? i've seen her bus d1, though

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Cause your red flags are bullshit 15 hours into me posting

VOTE: dwlee
you can die now

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Yea and if you were town maybe you'd consider how you did this exact thing to me in that TSQ game but instead you're just going to barrel ahead

Oh and you townread me when I actually was scum

Good accuracy rate to be so confident here

And now we have ad hominem of my play.

Just because I was wrong once does not make me always wrong.

Also, I want to note Dwlee cannot seem to get their story straight. Am I scum or am I wrong town Dwlee? This post appears to see me as both.

Or at least argue I am one and then talk as if I am the other.

THIS

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powerlim dwlee.

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the chess game siwtching upside down on each turn is slightly disorienting, making an observation that it seems possibly vaguely related to t3

how is it turning upside down related to me?

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You don't need to flavourclaim
I think you should have said enough to satisfy people already

VOTE: jjh
This reeks of whiteknighting. Especially because LLD is a very loud player.

Elaborate

You are free to call out "whiteknighting" if you like. Without pointing out any cool buzzwords, what makes you think this is scum aligned behaviour in this instance?

okay. you're reassuring and calling bombay town in order to gain their trust.

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i know something about it, but i am not a player (as of now)
i won't elaborate further, there's no point in doing so.

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my role isn't what i intended at all, when i chose the flavor. i will say that.

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that happens a lot

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You don't need to flavourclaim
I think you should have said enough to satisfy people already

VOTE: jjh
This reeks of whiteknighting. Especially because LLD is a very loud player.

Elaborate

You are free to call out "whiteknighting" if you like. Without pointing out any cool buzzwords, what makes you think this is scum aligned behaviour in this instance?

okay. you're reassuring and calling bombay town in order to gain their trust.

What makes you think this is scum aligned behaviour in this instance?

...i think that's fairly obvious

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VOTE: t3

I think this has highest chance of flipping scum rn

LOL
you say that i'm hard to read on day 1 and the best way to sort me is through interactions

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That d3 pawn is the weaker move

I hope whoever made it was put off by me saying nc3 was the best way to protect that pawn and just didn't want to copy me

Sure, they can develop their dark square bishop now and in fact without doing so already control a reasonable diagonal, but they've passed up on developing their knight with tempo and they don't gain any more centre control from this.

it depends. black could be a newbie who just played d6 for the heck of it, or is playing the philidor because they know the opening and like it.
bc4 i believe is the top engine move for white in that position, but d4 is the main line for white on move 3.

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White Move 5

this cleanly blunders a bishop.

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Oh shit it's happening that's a fun move since black will no longer be able to castle and is kinda positionally fucked but white is trading a bishop for a pawn

All comes down to whether black knows how to defend against the attack that is to come

Can white capitalise on the positional advantage, or will black be able to weather the storm and reach a stable endgame a piece ahead?

Thing to remember here is that when black inevitably takes bishop with king, white's got check with ng5 loaded up and ready to go followed by a variety of scary options for moving the queen out. Black will need to successfully evacuate the king over towards the queenside

there's really not much threat on the kingside. the bishop and knight will protect

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As a result of the chess game, Dwlee should be eliminated.

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Yes, jjh927 is a townread.

I'll be honest, I was about to townread Dwlee99, but they just keep getting worse.

please don't townread him

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tbh i just realized that my logic may be a little shaky, but i think they tmi'ed something about the chess game
so i'd like dwlee to claim what he knows about the chess game.

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more specifically, i think that dwlee should claim their color in the chess game.

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I received a PM saying that white won the chess game on time. The players may continue to play the game, but it will not affect the result. The players in the game have been informed of the winner, and then some additional info.

White and Black should claim.

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if dwlee is scum and in the chess game, then it could be bad.
not answering any more questions

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if dwlee is scum and in the chess game, then it could be bad.
not answering any more questions

Would town winning the game be good or just unbad? (I think this question makes sense?)

it depends on the setup.

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i thought i had a mechanics revelation moment, then i stepped back and realized that i jumped the gun.

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Hi t3. I want to ask you a question

?

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Spoiler: r/anarchychess was

Welcome to Subreddit Mafia!

Chess but both of the kings are gay. Almost all the pieces are supportive

You are r/anarchychess

Your Abilities are:

• Your voice and your vote
  
• Each game day you will face an unknown adversary in a chess game. The side who goes first on Day 1 will be decided by a random roll. Thereafter, the chess player who goes first will alternate each day.
  
• Each game day, the White side will have 24 hours in which to make their first move. The Black side has 24 hours in which to make their response. The player who takes the least amount of time to make their move gains one point. This will continue for 5 turns. At the end of 5 turns, if one player has lost fewer pieces than the other, that player wins the day's tournament. If they have lost the same number of pieces, then the player who earned the most points is the winner. If you are the winner, you will be able to use your night ability that night.
  
• If the game day ends before the match has reached 5 moves each, and the white player has made one more move than the black player, the game day will go into a twilight period until the Black player makes their final move.
  
• If the game day ends before the match has reached 5 moves each, and both chess players have made the same number of moves, the day will end normally and the winner will be declared based on number chess pieces remaining on the board OR via tiebreaker based on how many points each chess player has accumulated.
  
• Your night action is Strong-willed Cop. Your investigation cannot be redirected or blocked.

Your Win Condition is:
You win when all threats to

Town

have been eliminated or nothing can prevent that from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your alignment, and with the bolded line from the rules in the game thread.

OH COME ON
i also got a box

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jjh is town after a reread during the night.

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i thought dwlee was scum because he claimed to have the anarchychess subreddit but not having received it.

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T3, were you the other chess player?

I don't know why I am doing so poorly at this this game.

no.

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/prodge/thing/whatever because i feel sick
just got my covid booster.

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i'm not goig to engage with bombay's case on me.

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And Rogue that doesn’t explain anything. How did you come to the conclusion to draw attention to a really bad play? Because I’m still having trouble understanding why someone on town says that and it makes more sense to be something Mafia says.

The hammer was beyond a bad play. This isn't a case of some new player ignorantly quick hammering. Suripoko are making very deliberate choices here. They started out with a gimmick to avoid having to go on record with any actual arguments. Then they quick hammered the first wagon they could. They're taking refuge in charm, amusement value, and audacity.

This isn't town behavior. Pooky will quickhammer a wagon, sure--as scum.

Why are you defending them? Just what redeeming features do you see in anything they've posted? And why should anyone townread a single post they've made?

VOTE: Suripoko
wait this could be good. i've seen pooky openwolf and lolhammer as scum.

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i am town.
bombay is null town
extremely fatigued and sick from booster shot so this post is halfbaked and i may change my mind later on bombay

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that's really gutsy for bombay or ivan to fakeclaim though.

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@T3

Please claim how you knew the rule and results of the chess game.

If you were a player, please claim what your reward would have been if you won.

Thanks!

-Luke

no

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the suri lim is 100% the right play here

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school has been hell but i might post more tmrw or on the weekend

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Suri should die today

I’m not explaining unless I absolutely have to

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Limming ivan is bad

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that's really gutsy for bombay or ivan to fakeclaim though.

A knee ways,
I had a feeling That Idiot Ivan

could be

town because :waves hands: roleblocker helps scum combat all the investigatives, but I'm also not surprised that its a one shot.

This T3 posts reads a bit like too much info (in That Idiot Ivan = town world), but also reads like he wants to appear like he's trying to stop the fight, but isn't really (because he isn't directing the conversation elsewhere.)

please don’t tunnel on me

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catchup in 30 mins

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i did not get a message saying that i lost my box.

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i'm observing

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r/chessporn

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PFFt I blocked Rogue so….

why is this a guilty?
srry if i missed something.

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annoyed at the jjh kill

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We’re arcane.

We had a choice pregame of Piltover or Zaun. Piltover made us an inventor with an activatable commute and PGO.

But fuck Piltover.

We are a doctor who delays death a la the bleed out mechanic. Aka, the “alternative kill” that Shiro can stop. My guess is scum have a strongman and our combo can beat out the strongman to guarantee results. This is part of why I was so skeptical of Ivan once all the claims were out there, because with me around it already felt busted as fuck.

I didn’t mind the watcher claim as o it role seems like a decent workaround to the busted combination.

So yeah.

We targeted Bombay N1, because they seemed solidly Town. I was basically in the same boat as they were re protective decisions N1, after day one I kinda had squick feels about LLD.

Last night I tried to protect LLD.

oHhHhH

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r/chessporn
strong willed doc, i'm now permanently roleblocked because dwlee is dead :/

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i was black in the chess game

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i was originally planning on spewing bs that i was a powerful pr, but it's worked out badly for me in the past.

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Is your role worded basically the same as Dwlee's, just with the cop swapped out for doc?

@T3

ya

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T3 why were you so resistant to claiming? And why didn't you stick up for Dwlee?

i was reticent because i wanted to soft pr and all that so i could get niked

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i was bluffing that i had a secret reason

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i never knew that dwlee was the other player.

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i never knew that dwlee was the other player.

As a result of the chess game, Dwlee should be eliminated.

"As a result of" implies you knew, or had strong reason to suspect he was a player of the game.

tbh i just realized that my logic may be a little shaky, but i think they tmi'ed something about the chess game
so i'd like dwlee to claim what he knows about the chess game.

more specifically, i think that dwlee should claim their color in the chess game.

These?? No way you "never knew that dwlee was the other player."

i suspected he was

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reading

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rogue is always the best im here.

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i protected lld because she was the obvious kill.
it did occur to me later that i could be the cause of the no kil.

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T3, could your doctor protection stop the poison kill? Similar to how Strange Matter's could?

i protected you
idk whether the poison us stopped by my doc
i was fine letting the thread think rogue was guilty

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bombay is scum, because mastina is town.

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i have said previously that mastina is town.

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gg

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I should've repped out