Infernal Affairs - Game Over!

[Toogeloo]

also i already have a read this game:
Toogeloo is town.

How do I know?
Toogeloo is never scum.
Its a mafia rule at this point, any arguing with this will have me looking at u funny and calling u bad for challenging this common knowledge.

::funnycuzitstru::

[Toogeloo]

I think this game has cast the most trolls and/or shit posters of any game I've ever had the the pleasure to be in.

[Toogeloo]

actually on 2nd thought Fire could totally do what he's doing as scum.

Would he buddy me, of all people, post 1?

[Toogeloo]

Also want it known that I am not above Poilicy lynching anyone. I see the roster, I know what could happen.

1. Ix-nay the old ways. Adopt "Lim."
2. You have no idea what this p list is capable of. This p list belongs a lower tier than Mos Eisley residents.

[Toogeloo]

The Miltank brings all the lims to the yard
And their lim, it's better than yours...

[Toogeloo]

I'm like Boba Fett, yo.

[Toogeloo]

[Toogeloo]

Nero, I have a massive scum tell. Here it is...

If I am losing sleep at night because of a Mafia game, I am scum

You're welcome.

[Toogeloo]

Oh, and I am now considering finding a sleeping bag in momo's pocket. That last post was ++++++town.

[Toogeloo]

I'm down to wagon this. His ISO is real fluffy.

People keep pointing out how fluffy I am.

[Toogeloo]

Imagine wanting to eliminate someone because you are scared of their scum game...

[Toogeloo]

and is Toog a normal troll slot?cause it looked liked they started trying then went flat..

no, what they're doing is out of character for them as either alignment based on a quick metacheck.

Meta is a generally worthless metric anyways.

[Toogeloo]

I'm taking my sleeping bag back from momo's pocket. I thought they were going to be towning it up more, but alas...

[Toogeloo]

I just realized...

This game is called InFernal Affairs. I legit have been thinking it was called InTernal Affairs.

I don't really want to Lim anyone right now, I like all the posters. Would it be sus of me to want to vote Frozen Angel?

[Toogeloo]

So the movie is kind of like The Departed?

I claim Reverse Traitor. I know a scum team exists, but wasn't informed of their identities. I win when I expose them all and remove them. I can be alive or dead to achieve this win condition.

[Toogeloo]

I have a suspicion about Galron's 544.

I mentioned a while ago that I liked the active posters and asked about how bad it would look to vote Frozen Angel. Galron immediately voted FA right after, possibly in an attempt to give me permission to do so. However since I didn't, Galron's 544 might have been a way to save face for being the only vote to go there without support.

I like Andante's casing of Galron on the previous page as well, and am willing to town-bin her. MagikHorse's posting has been decent, and I have no complaints there, so I am lending support to the Galron push.

VOTE: Galron

[Toogeloo]

I've played multiple games from time to time, and I think it's unfair to judge someone based on differing activity between games. The other commitments might have the player more vested in the current game state, or require their time over other commitments. I myself can't multitask for shit, so sometimes I'll make sacrifices in time if a game doesn't require my immediate presence.

That being said, I think we can weigh in on frog's content here just fine without worry of their presence elsewhere. It's not like they have similar post content to someone like Frozen Angel. It is Day 1, early game still as a matter of fact, and it shouldn't really be concerning yet the amount of content any one player has produced yet.

[Toogeloo]

Dwlee, holy shit... I forgot you were in this game.

[Toogeloo]

But you sound so awkward and stilted and self-conscious and yea

You should have seen me at prom.

[Toogeloo]

so what is ur stance on frog posts?

I haven't taken one. Frog is unmemorable to me.

[Toogeloo]

think we can weigh in on frog's content here just fine without worry of their presence elsewhere.

i dont understand why u say this if u think its not memorable or worthy of attention if ur saying theres stuff that we can weigh in on

Royal we.

[Toogeloo]

I hate to remind everyone, but half the player list is shit posters and/or trolls.

[Toogeloo]

Is frog still the man of the hour? I'm not really impressed with the effort of the case on Magik, but I think plenty of people are ignoring Galron and letting that slide by.

[Toogeloo]

I wouldn't be sad to see frog perish from the game.

[Toogeloo]

Toogloo how many townreads do you have right now?

Probably two. But I'd put them at the level of how like an acquaintance is to a friend.

[Toogeloo]

So Galron and MagikHorse/Tejate are probably not aligned, right. It's unlikely he would confuse someone for his scumbuddy

Assuming you personally feel as though one of them has to be scum and you aren't considering them both town?

[Toogeloo]

Is Miltank around?

VOTE: frogster

On a side note, I caught soooo many Miltanks yesterday.

[Toogeloo]

wuss...

[Toogeloo]

When/if frog flips scum, I think it actually helps make some players near lock town.

[Toogeloo]

like this is oddly specific, no? Why is it 2 and not 1?

Why is it not all 3?

Well other than the fact that Fire's not on the wagon and he can't say he's bussing.

Speaking of oddly specific.

[Toogeloo]

Toogeloo, just the person I wanted to see!!! What are your reads looking like fam?

hellbooks and magikhorse town. Would vote wherever they wanted me to today. Hopefully they townread each other as well.

@Nero. We had 4 kills last night. Setup is unknown other than single ball. 3 total scum could balance out a high kill game.

[Toogeloo]

VOTE: Tejate

Giving support for this. As promised, I'll support hellbooks (and Magik) votes.

[Toogeloo]

Not Mafia is a policy lynch that will never happen. Not Mafia will come to play as town if we are winning, probably, maybe, I dunno. If we are losing, they'll always be that question mark in the back of our minds.

[Toogeloo]

Giving support for this. As promised, I'll support hellbooks (and Magik) votes.

That's my elaboration.

[Toogeloo]

What do you see in Hell that makes you think they're town Toogeloo?

Their early push on frog when Galron was an easy counter wagon to slip to.

[Toogeloo]

Plus, honestly, I think they had a lot of good posts on day 1.

[Toogeloo]

Is there a case on Fire, or is it just a random pressure wagon? One of those, "let's try something else," things?

[Toogeloo]

I feel like NM's play is somewhat genius. A day elimination on that slot in any game ever would have to be completely policy. I can recall one game ever where NM actually put forth effort to play, and it was at the end of the game when town was winning anyways.

All you can hope for is the best with NM in the game.

[Toogeloo]

There was that one time in Draft Mafia. That's the one I remember.

[Toogeloo]

Giving support for this. As promised, I'll support hellbooks (and Magik) votes.

That's my elaboration.

do you not have any confidence in your own reads? do you have opinions about who is scum ?? whats with this?

I am notoriously bad at this game. There are occasions where I display moments of brilliance, but generally speaking, I wing it. I've adopted a more supportive play style over the years where I find players I town read and try to work with them.

In all honesty, part of the reason I am bad though is because I start to skim when I get bored of the conversations or start seeing giant walls.

Another reason is that I'm just not an aggressive person. I don't even place RVS votes. I just idle until I see something I might be able to work with.

Finding town has often been easier than finding scum for me, so I go that route, and try to figure who "can't" (or less likely to be) be partnered with flipped scum and work from there.

[Toogeloo]

I do have this habit of picking a member of the scum team as my first town read in in well over half my games though. Like it's a special power.

[Toogeloo]

UNVOTE:

[Toogeloo]

ya'll town read me?

hellbooks and Magik moreso, but I don't not townread you.

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What do you think of magik doing nothing today and just riding the town cred?

Willing to give it a pass since he was day 1, post 1, target by now flipped scum. I really think that frog gave us quite a bit to work with today.

[Toogeloo]

I'm giving hellbooks a town read currently, and would oppose their elimination today.

I'd probably be fine with an STD elim if it came to it, but I don't feel strongly about their alignment in any way.

[Toogeloo]

I'm going to this SR, and hellbooks is most likely a partner

Wait...

So the team is the flipped scum, the player that the flipped scum was pushing all day 1, and the player who lead the charge against flipped scum?

There's literally no way I follow that logic train on Day 2.

[Toogeloo]

Nero, you still adamant with STD?
Same question at hellbooks.

I am inclined to vote there because Andante as VI is not something that would surprise me, and I've seen the routine before. Therefore, I'm more hesitant to vote there. However, I would be inclined to do STD, though I am disinclined to force two competing wagons.

[Toogeloo]

VOTE: Andante

Later, hater.

[Toogeloo]

Not going to wait for my popcorn.
I am a VT.

Whoever is next is still next.

I feel as though scum team has to be small if we are getting this many kills a night consistently.

[Toogeloo]

I wouldn't have believed 3 in 18, but it kind of has to be. Or maybe it's just a bulletproof serial killer lol.

[Toogeloo]

Think we went through this on Day 1. Also, a no Mafia, only Serial Killer is still single ball lol.

If I was in a 3 man Mafia team in a game this big, I'd probably be pissed. It's seem too swingy, or need to be. As many town vigs that have flipped, the game could have been over night 1.

[Toogeloo]

Mafia isn't in the game description anywhere.

[Toogeloo]

I say we take a vote. If you think this this is a Mafia game, vote Mafia. If you think it's not a Mafia game, vote Not Mafia.

VOTE: Not Mafia

[Toogeloo]

YOLO

Besides, I think the team is probably NM, You (Tejate), and one more, of which I'm still thinking on.

[Toogeloo]

We're all town. Everyone still alive. Ask anyone.

[Toogeloo]

What are your thoughts on the last person to claim and is what was your influence for skipping your "turn.

I don't think scum need to worry about where in turn they claim. Most scum teams already work out ahead of time their claim if they need it, and VT claims early in are just as likely to be scum.

I claimed out of order because I only have a couple of times a day to dedicate to the game, usually just once a day is what I aim for. Not that it's important, but I'm currently in Las Vegas for the weekend celebrating my 20th wedding anniversary. I wasn't sure when I might get to the thread again, so I just claimed. Besides, I'm not a patient person.

[Toogeloo]

Game seems dead. Many of those of the town faction must be feeling defeated already.

[Toogeloo]

I'm absolutely committed to Not Mafia at this point. I've had my vote there for days now, I don't intend on moving it.

[Toogeloo]

Apparently I needed a prod for this game.

I'm still fully committed to eliming Not Mafia here. I think of the other two wagons, I'd endorse the Keeper wagon. I honestly feel like Tejate's WIM is golden here and don't think I'm interested in that at all.

Could I see a NM, Keeper, Fire team.

Sure, why not.

[Toogeloo]

NM needs a case?

[Toogeloo]

Not Mafia is scum, "just because."

If you want a reason. Sure. Uh...
They changed their claim, which means they lied.

[Toogeloo]

I have a guilty on NM.

[Toogeloo]

Is that a good enough lie?

[Toogeloo]

Ok.

[Toogeloo]

Give me a town case on Not Mafia. Maybe you see something I'm not.

[Toogeloo]

You give me a town case, I'll self vote.

[Toogeloo]

You asked me to lie though

[Toogeloo]

And that's not a town case on NM.

[Toogeloo]

Reverse Miller Ninja Scumfinder

[Toogeloo]

I think this game has cast the most trolls and/or shit posters of any game I've ever had the the pleasure to be in.

[Toogeloo]

I told you I was there just because. I told you I was committed to it. I didn't need a reason beyond that. I did say where my compromise was.

You just needed a reason to place a vote on me, so I provided it.

[Toogeloo]

Whatever helps you sleep at night. An '09 has come to terms with their ineptitude and humility years ago.

[Toogeloo]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Keeper

[Toogeloo]

Hellbooks shot momo and that's a fine play. He shouldn't have shot me through.

I dunno. Seems like it worked out regardless.

[Toogeloo]

Just a friendly reminder that if you were a VT, you were playing a completely different game than if you were a vigi from da hood.