Mini 2284: The Thing Anonymous [The End?]

[petapan]

Mini 2284
The Thing Anonymous

A mafia game based (mostly) on The Thing (1982) by John Carpenter

Moderator and Setup Designer: petapan
Backup Moderator: Prism
Reviewers: Syryana and Bell

Player List

1. MacReady~
   
2. Blair~
   
3. Childs~
   
4. Clark~
   
5. Nauls~
   
6. Palmer~
   
7. Copper~
   
8. Norris~
   
9. Bennings~
   
10. Garry~
    
11. Fuchs~
    
12. Windows~
    
13. Lars~

Spoiler: Alive

Blair~
Childs~
Copper~
Fuchs~
Garry~
MacReady~
Nauls~
Palmer~

Spoiler: Dead

Clark~,

Thing

, eliminated Day 1
Lars~, went missing Night 1
Windows~,

Thing

, eliminated Day 2
Norris~, went missing Night 2
Bennings~, incinerated Night 2

[petapan]

Ruleset

(shamelessly taken from Hectic by way of Prism, with my own modifications)

1. Fundamentals

• All site-wide rules apply. Read and respect them.
  
• This is a game. Have fun, and keep the game fun for other people. This might be the most important rule.
  
• There is no personal communication regarding this game outside of this gamethread & associated PTs.
  
• Do not quote any private communication (either real or fabricated) with the moderator, backup moderator, or fellow players. Do not reference timestamps of private communication.
  
• Do not engage in the use of trust tells.
  
• Heated discussion and debate is allowed, but personal attacks are not. I reserve the right to protect my players, and all other community members. Please PM myself and the backup moderator if you feel something needs our immediate intervention.
  
• If you make a post indicating that the game is having a negative impact on your out of game relationships or well being, you will be warned or forcibly replaced, depending on severity. If you believe the game is having a negative impact on your life, send me a PM rather than posting about it in the game thread.
  
• Play to your Win Condition.

2. Phases & Activity

• Please post at least once every 48 hours. If you fail to do so, you will be prodded. If you fail to respond to said prod within 24 hours, you will be replaced.
  
• Contentless "prodges" do not count for the purpose of resetting the prod timer.
  
• At the time you would receive a third prod, or fail to respond to a prod by posting in thread within 24 hours (or by PM if at Night), you will be force replaced.
  
• All Day phases will have a 7 day deadline. Night phases will last for 2 days. If necessary, extensions will be granted for the purpose of securing replacements.
  
• If there is no majority at the deadline, there will be no elimination.
  
• Votes must not be spoilered and should be in the format of VOTE: Player or
  Vote: Player
  , or they will not be counted. Abbreviating someone's name is acceptable, so long as I can discern who you were voting for without trouble. If I think it should count as a vote, it will.
  
• Unvoting is not required, but is much appreciated.
  
• The following is a list of outlawed shenanigans:
  • Using invisible text, codes, cryptography, etc.
    
  • Editing your posts (if you have the power to do so)
    
  • Quoting any PTs you may have access to
    
  • Referencing the flavor text (in
    Italics
    ) from your role PM. You are free to claim your role name.
• If any of these offenses are committed, I have the right to force-replace you from the game, or, with listmod permission, modkill you.

3. Miscellaneous

• Do not impersonate the moderator.
  
• Feel free to address me in-thread, but if there is a large egregious mistake please PM myself or Prism. Small matters like errors in the votecount can be posted in-thread.
  
• I have the final say on any issue. If you disagree with any action or inaction taken by me, feel free to PM myself or the relevant listmod,
  lilith2013
  .
  
• While I have tried to be thorough, I reserve the right to take corrective action with or without warning for any issue I feel was omitted in this ruleset.

[petapan]

Setup

This game uses a

closed

setup. The following information about the game is publicly known.

The Thing

Setup

• 10 Humans
  
  
• 3 Things

Mechanics

• The
  Things
  have daytalk.
  
• The roles of players
  will not
  be revealed on death.
  
• Players who are eliminated during the day
  will
  have their alignment revealed. Players who die during the night
  will not
  .
  
• Assimilation:
  During the night phase, the
  Things
  can choose to have one of their members "Assimilate" the nightkill. If that
  Thing
  successfully carries out the nightkill on its intended target, it will "assimilate" the alternate account of the killed player and gain control of it. The
  Thing
  will lose control of its original account, and it will flip as having died during the night phase instead.
  
• There is no limit to the number of times a
  Thing
  can jump to a new account.
  
• Assimilation is optional for
  Things
  . They do not have to jump to a new account if they do not wish to do so.
  
• There exists at least one Vanilla Townie in this game. Non-vanilla roles may also exist.
  
• Things do not have powers beyond the factional kill and assimilation.
  
• Night actions will be resolved on their
  original target
  . Assimilation takes place
  last
  in the order of Night Action Resolution.

Spoiler: Night Action Resolution Order

1. Hide
   
2. Bus Drive
   
3. Block
   
4. Redirect
   
5. Protect
   
6. Miscellaneous
   
7. Kill
   
8. Inspect
   
9. Assimilate

An action being present in this list does not necessarily mean there is a role in the game capable of performing that type of action.

Spoiler: Sample Human Role PM

Captain Blake

Welcome,

Captain Blake

. You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities, your only tools are your voice and your vote.

You win when there are no more

Things

remaining.

Confirm by replying with your role name and one of the Anonymous Game Rules.

Spoiler: Sample Thing Role PM

Captain Blake

Welcome,

Captain Blake

. You are a

Thing

.

Your partners are

[Playername]

and

[Playername]

. You may speak with them at any time in your private topic, located here:

[PT link]

Each night phase, one of you or your teammates may kill a player, removing them from the game.

Assimilate:

If you are he one carrying the factional kill, you may choose to assimilate your target. This will give you control of the killed player's account, taking it away from them. You will lose access to your current account, and it will flip as having died overnight. Usage of this ability is optional.

You win when you reach parity with the

Humans

, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Confirm by replying with your role name and one of the Anonymous Game Rules.

[petapan]

SPECIAL RULES FOR ANONYMOUS GAMES

Anon Game Rules

• You are only allowed to post in this game thread on your moderator provided alternate account.
  
• You are not allowed to post in threads that are not related to this game with your alternate account.
  
• Slipping up on either of these will result in immediate force replacement.
  
• You are allowed to change your alternate account's timezone. You are allowed to change your account's theme. I have helpfully set the themes of the alternate accounts to the lovely Sepia, but you should use a theme that is different from the one you use on your main account, to minimize the chances of alt slipping.
  
• You are allowed to list your preferred pronouns on your alternate account. Do not abuse this. Do not publicly speculate on the main accounts of other users based on their pronouns.
  
• You are not allowed to change
  any other
  setting for your alternate account, including avatar, signature, location, or quote. Do not try to change the account's password.
  
• Do not tell others your main account. Do not even hint at the identity of your main account.
  
• Do not publicly guess or speculate about the identity of alternate accounts. Do not make suggestive statements about someone's identity. (e.g. "I know who you are", "If I'm right about [player]'s main, they're in their town meta")
  
• Violations of any of these rules will result in a warning or forced replacement, depending on the severity of the offense.
  
• As a general rule, keep things secret, respect the secrecy of others. Don't go trying to break the game in some way.
  
• Your main account
  will
  be revealed at the end of this game, so don't be a dick.

[petapan]

Setting up...

Generating Alternate Accounts...

Finalizing game rules...

Generating role PMs...

Assigning roles...

Assigning alternate accounts and sending login info...

Role and Login PMs sent, awaiting confirmations...Game will begin at 10/13 confirmed...

Currently at 10/13 confirmations...

Confirmation threshold reached, commencing game start.

████████████████████ 100%

[petapan]

Vote Count 1.00

Not Voting (13):

Bennings, Blair, Childs, Clark, Copper, Fuchs, Garry, Lars, MacReady, Nauls, Norris, Palmer, Windows

With 13 alive, it's 7 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is November 10 at 1:00 AM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-11-10 01:00:00)

soundtrack

♫

Main Title

♫
▶ ❚❚ ──────────────────────────────  0:00 / 1:46

[petapan]

A reminder to all players:

The following is a list of outlawed shenanigans:

Using invisible text, codes, cryptography, etc.

Codes are explicitly forbidden in the rules, don't go attempting to use them. This will be the only time I warn people, further instances will get you booted from the game.

[petapan]

Vote Count 1.01

(i wish i could use this font)

Clark (5):

MacReady, Garry, Lars, Blair, Childs

Copper (2):

Palmer, Clark

Childs (1):

Fuchs

MacReady (1):

Windows

Windows (1):

Norris

Bennings (1):

Copper

Fuchs (1):

Bennings

Not Voting (1):

Nauls

With 13 alive, it's 7 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is November 10 at 1:00 AM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-11-10 01:00:00)

soundtrack

♫

Main Title

♫
▶ ❚❚ ──────────────────●───────────  1:07 / 1:45

[petapan]

-

[petapan]

Vote Count 1.02

Clark (4):

MacReady, Garry, Blair, Childs

Norris (2):

Nauls, Lars

Bennings (2):

Copper, Palmer

Copper (1):

Clark

Windows (1):

Norris

Fuchs (1):

Bennings

Palmer (1):

Fuchs

Blair (1):

Windows

With 13 alive, it's 7 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is November 10 at 1:00 AM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-11-10 01:00:00)

soundtrack

♫

Main Title

♫
▶ ❚❚ ─────────────────────────────●  1:43 / 1:45

[petapan]

Replacing Clark.

[petapan]

The Clark~ account has been given to a replacement player.

[petapan]

Vote Count 1.03

Norris (4):

Nauls, Lars, Copper, Childs

Clark (3):

MacReady, Garry, Blair

Copper (3):

Clark, Bennings, Windows

Windows (1):

Norris

Palmer (1):

Fuchs

Lars (1):

Palmer

With 13 alive, it's 7 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is November 10 at 1:00 AM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-11-10 01:00:00)

soundtrack

♫

Main Theme - Desolation

♫
▶ ❚❚ ────────●────────────────────  1:18 / 4:29

[petapan]

Vote Count 1.04

Norris (4):

Nauls, Lars, Copper, Childs

Clark (3):

MacReady, Garry, Blair

Copper (3):

Clark, Bennings, Windows

Windows (1):

Norris

Palmer (1):

Fuchs

Lars (1):

Palmer

With 13 alive, it's 7 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is November 10 at 1:00 AM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-11-10 01:00:00)

soundtrack

♫

Main Theme - Desolation

♫
▶ ❚❚ ───────────●─────────────────  1:48 / 4:29

[petapan]

Prodding Garry.

[petapan]

Vote Count 1.05

Clark (5):

MacReady, Garry, Blair, Fuchs, Lars

Copper (3):

Clark, Bennings, Windows

Windows (3):

Norris, Palmer, Nauls

Norris (1):

Copper

Not Voting (1):

Childs

With 13 alive, it's 7 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is November 10 at 1:00 AM EST.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-11-10 02:00:00)

Notes:

I forgot Daylight Savings Time was ending, you get an extra hour of Day as a result, note the adjusted deadline.

soundtrack

♫

Main Theme - Desolation

♫
▶ ❚❚ ─────────────────────●───────  3:23 / 4:29

[petapan]

Vote Count 1.06

Clark (4):

MacReady, Garry, Blair, Lars

Copper (3):

Clark, Bennings, Windows

Windows (2):

Palmer, Nauls

Palmer (2):

Fuchs, Norris

Norris (1):

Copper

Not Voting (1):

Childs

With 13 alive, it's 7 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is November 10 at 1:00 AM EST.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-11-10 02:00:00)

Notes:

Garry is being replaced. The deadline will receive an extension once a replacement is in place.

soundtrack

♫

Main Theme - Desolation

♫
▶ ❚❚ ──────────────────────●──────  3:35 / 4:29

[petapan]

Garry has been replaced and a new player is now using the alias. The deadline has been extended 1 day to compensate.

New deadline: (expired on 2022-11-11 02:00:00)

Prodding Clark~.

[petapan]

Vote Count 1.07

Clark (4):

MacReady, Garry, Blair, Lars

Copper (3):

Clark, Bennings, Windows

Windows (2):

Palmer, Nauls

Palmer (2):

Fuchs, Norris

Norris (1):

Copper

Not Voting (1):

Childs

With 13 alive, it's 7 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is November 11 at 1:00 AM EST.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-11-11 02:00:00)

soundtrack

♫

Main Theme - Desolation

♫
▶ ❚❚ ───────────────────────●─────  3:44 / 4:29

[petapan]

Childs~, as played Junkochan, is being replaced. The game thread will re-open when a replacement is found.

[petapan]

A replacement has been found for Childs~. The game resumes now. Deadline will be extended 9 hours to compensate for the thread lock. An additional 24 hours will be granted to account for the new replacement.

New deadline timer: (expired on 2022-11-12 11:00:00)

[petapan]

i sent the notification pm to everyone's main to ensure you saw it, please don't altslip

[petapan]

Vote Count 1.08

Clark (5):

Garry, Blair, Lars, Fuchs, Childs

Copper (3):

Clark, Bennings, Windows

Windows (2):

Palmer, Nauls

Palmer (1):

Norris

Norris (1):

Copper

Not Voting (1):

MacReady

With 13 alive, it's 7 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is November 12 at 10:00 AM EST.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-11-12 11:00:00)

soundtrack

♫

Humanity 2

♫
▶ ❚❚ ─●───────────────────────────  0:09 / 2:42

[petapan]

MOD PETAPAN: If a Thing assimilated a power role, would they be able to use it?

No. Roles do not transfer on assimilation.

[petapan]

Vote Count 1.09

Clark (5):

Garry, Blair, Lars, Fuchs, Bennings

Copper (2):

Clark, Windows

Windows (2):

Palmer, Nauls

Palmer (1):

Norris

Norris (1):

Copper

Not Voting (2):

MacReady, Childs

With 13 alive, it's 7 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is November 12 at 10:00 AM EST.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-11-12 11:00:00)

soundtrack

♫

Humanity 2

♫
▶ ❚❚ ──────────────●──────────────  1:21 / 2:42

[petapan]

Night actions will be resolved on their original target. Assimilation takes place last in the order of Night Action Resolution.

@Mod how does this even work.

hypothetically if a vigilante targeted a thing who was assimilating another player and there are no other night actions, what happens?

Kills resolve before assimilation, so both the Thing and their nightkill target would flip as having died.

[petapan]

-

[petapan]

Vote Count 1.10

Clark (6):

Garry, Blair, Lars, Fuchs, Bennings, Windows

Windows (2):

Palmer, Nauls

Copper (1):

Clark

Palmer (1):

Norris

Norris (1):

Copper

Not Voting (2):

MacReady, Childs

With 13 alive, it's 7 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is November 12 at 10:00 AM EST.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-11-12 11:00:00)

soundtrack

♫

Humanity 2

♫
▶ ❚❚ ────────────────────────●────  2:19 / 2:42

[petapan]

Vote Count 1.11

Clark (7):

Garry, Blair, Lars, Fuchs, Bennings, Windows, Nauls

Windows (1):

Palmer

Copper (1):

Clark

Palmer (1):

Norris

Norris (1):

Copper

Not Voting (2):

MacReady, Childs

With 13 alive, it took 7 to eliminate.

soundtrack

♫

Humanity 2

♫
▶ ❚❚ ────────────────────────────●  2:42 / 2:42

[petapan]

Clark

got blown up Day 1.

Clark was a

Thing

.

[petapan]

It is now Night 1. The deadline for Night 1 is

November 13

at 9:00 AM EST. Submit night actions by PM, if applicable.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-11-13 09:00:00)

[petapan]

Alt Guessing Contest

If you wish, submit a list of list of guesses for the main account behind each alternate. You do not have to submit a guess for each alt, but there is no penalty for doing so. Correctly matching a player to their alias is worth 2 points. Guessing a player who is in the game but not the alt they are using is worth 1 point. The player with the most points gets a prize awarded postgame.

[petapan]

deadline for alt guesses is end of night 1 btw

[petapan]

Lars

went missing Night 1.

[petapan]

It is now Day 2.

Vote Count 2.00

Not Voting (11):

Bennings, Blair, Childs, Copper, Fuchs, Garry, MacReady, Nauls, Norris, Palmer, Windows

With 11 alive, it's 6 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 2 is November 20 at 10:00 AM EST.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-11-20 11:00:00)

soundtrack

♫

Despair

♫
▶ ❚❚ ─●────────────────────────────  0:18 / 6:51

[petapan]

Assimilation does not grant a thing access to the previous player's role information or night actions. Any private messages sent to or from the previous occupant would be wiped.

[petapan]

Vote Count 2.01

Windows (2):

Palmer, Garry

Palmer (1):

Windows

Not Voting (8):

Bennings, Blair, Childs, Copper, Fuchs, Nauls, Norris, MacReady

With 11 alive, it's 6 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 2 is November 20 at 10:00 AM EST.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-11-20 11:00:00)

soundtrack

♫

Despair

♫
▶ ❚❚ ───●──────────────────────────  0:32 / 4:46

[petapan]

Vote Count 2.02

Windows (3):

Palmer, Garry, Copper

Palmer (1):

Windows

Not Voting (7):

Bennings, Blair, Childs, Fuchs, Nauls, Norris, MacReady

With 11 alive, it's 6 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 2 is November 20 at 10:00 AM EST.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-11-20 11:00:00)

soundtrack

♫

Despair

♫
▶ ❚❚ ─────────────●────────────────  2:17 / 4:46

[petapan]

Vote Count 2.03

Windows (6):

Palmer, Garry, Copper, Fuchs, Norris, Bennings

Palmer (1):

Windows

Not Voting (4):

Blair, Childs, Nauls, MacReady

With 11 alive, it took 6 to eliminate.

soundtrack

♫

Despair

♫
▶ ❚❚ ──────────────●───────────────  2:25 / 4:46

[petapan]

Windows

got incinerated Day 2.

Windows was a

Thing

.

[petapan]

It is now Night 2. The deadline for Night 2 is

November 18

at 1:00 AM EST. Submit night actions by PM, if applicable.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-11-18 01:00:00)

Fast Night

is available on request.

[petapan]

Norris

went missing Night 2.

Bennings

went missing Night 2.

[petapan]

It is now Day 3.

Vote Count 3.00

Not Voting (8):

Blair, Childs, Copper, Fuchs, Garry, MacReady, Nauls, Palmer

With 8 alive, it's 5 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 3 is November 25 at 1:00 AM EST.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-11-25 02:00:00)

soundtrack

♫

Despair

♫
▶ ❚❚ ─●────────────────────────────  0:18 / 4:46

[petapan]

It is now Day 3.

...or is it?


Why don't we just... wait here for a little while... see what happens?

[petapan]

With no more

Things

remaining, the

Humans

have won Mini 2284!


Stand by for final reveals.

[petapan]

Spoiler: Clark

As played by

Roden

Elements

Clark

Welcome,

Clark

. You are a

Thing

.

Your partners are

Windows~

and

Bennings~

. You may speak with them at any time in your private topic, located here: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=90065

Each night phase, one of you or your teammates may kill a player, removing them from the game.

Assimilate:

If you are he one carrying the factional kill, you may choose to assimilate your target. This will give you control of the killed player's account, taking it away from them. You will lose access to your current account, and it will flip as having died overnight. Usage of this ability is optional.

You win when you reach parity with the

Humans

, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Confirm by replying with your role name and one of the Anonymous Game Rules.

[petapan]

Spoiler: Lars

As played by fireisredsir

Lars

Welcome,

Lars

. You are a

3-Shot Town Bodyguard

.

That's not a dog! Start the helicopter now!

Three times per game, you can target a player at night. If that player is targeted by a killing action, you will die in their place. The Things will be unable to take control of you account if you die this way.

You win when there are no more

Things

remaining.

Confirm by replying with your role name and one of the Anonymous Game Rules.

[petapan]

Spoiler: Windows

As played by imaginality

Windows

Welcome,

Windows

. You are a

Thing

.

Your partners are

Clark~

and

Bennings~

. You may speak with them at any time in your private topic, located here: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=90065

Each night phase, one of you or your teammates may kill a player, removing them from the game.

Assimilate:

If you are he one carrying the factional kill, you may choose to assimilate your target. This will give you control of the killed player's account, taking it away from them. You will lose access to your current account, and it will flip as having died overnight. Usage of this ability is optional.

You win when you reach parity with the

Humans

, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Confirm by replying with your role name and one of the Anonymous Game Rules.

[petapan]

Spoiler: Bennings

As played by Uncrowned

Bennings

Welcome,

Bennings

. You are a

Thing

.

Your partners are

Windows~

and

Clark~

. You may speak with them at any time in your private topic, located here: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=90065

Each night phase, one of you or your teammates may kill a player, removing them from the game.

Assimilate:

If you are he one carrying the factional kill, you may choose to assimilate your target. This will give you control of the killed player's account, taking it away from them. You will lose access to your current account, and it will flip as having died overnight. Usage of this ability is optional.

You win when you reach parity with the

Humans

, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Confirm by replying with your role name and one of the Anonymous Game Rules.

[petapan]

Spoiler: Norris

As played by marcistar

Norris

Welcome,

Norris

. You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities, your only tools are your voice and your vote.

You win when there are no more

Things

remaining.

Confirm by replying with your role name and one of the Anonymous Game Rules.

[petapan]

Spoiler: Blair

As played by PookyTheMagicalBear

Blair

Welcome,

Blair

. You are a

1-Shot Town Friendly Neighbor

.

Now I'll show you what I already know.

Once per game, you may send a message to another player. The message will confirm you as town to that player. The message will read as follows:

[Player Name]

is confirmed to be a

HUMAN

You win when there are no more

Things

remaining.

Confirm by replying with your role name and one of the Anonymous Game Rules.

[petapan]

Spoiler: Childs

As played by

JunkoChan

mastina

Childs

Welcome,

Childs

. You are a

1-Shot Town Novice Vigilante

.

We gotta burn the rest of 'em.

Once per game, you may kill a player with your flamethrower during the night. The player's alignment will not be revealed. You may not use this action on Night 1.

You win when there are no more

Things

remaining.

Confirm by replying with your role name and one of the Anonymous Game Rules.

[petapan]

Spoiler: Copper

As played by KittyTacky

Copper

Welcome,

Copper

. You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities, your only tools are your voice and your vote.

You win when there are no more

Things

remaining.

Confirm by replying with your role name and one of the Anonymous Game Rules.

[petapan]

Spoiler: Fuchs

As played by Lukewarm

Fuchs

Welcome,

Fuchs

. You are a

2-Shot Town Motion Detector

.

And everybody watch whoever you're with... real close.

Twice per game, you can target a player at night. If that player visited someone with their night action, or was visited by someone else, you will get a result of

MOTION

. If the target did not visit anyone and was not visited by anyone, you will get a result of

NO MOTION

.

You win when there are no more

Things

remaining.

Confirm by replying with your role name and one of the Anonymous Game Rules.

[petapan]

Spoiler: Garry

As played by

Ydrasse

Freedom

Garry

Welcome,

Garry

. You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities, your only tools are your voice and your vote.

You win when there are no more

Things

remaining.

Confirm by replying with your role name and one of the Anonymous Game Rules.

[petapan]

Spoiler: MacReady

As played by skitter30

MacReady

Welcome,

MacReady

. You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities, your only tools are your voice and your vote.

You win when there are no more

Things

remaining.

Confirm by replying with your role name and one of the Anonymous Game Rules.

[petapan]

Spoiler: Nauls

As played by Meuh

Nauls

Welcome,

Nauls

. You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities, your only tools are your voice and your vote.

You win when there are no more

Things

remaining.

Confirm by replying with your role name and one of the Anonymous Game Rules.

[petapan]

Spoiler: Palmer

As played by Datisi

Palmer

Welcome,

Palmer

. You are a

1-Shot Town Alignment Cop

.

We're gonna draw a little bit of everybody's blood... 'cause we're gonna find out who's The Thing.

Once per game, you may give another player a blood test. You will receive a result of

HUMAN

or

THING

.

You win when there are no more

Things

remaining.

Confirm by replying with your role name and one of the Anonymous Game Rules.

[petapan]

it's way late for me so i don't have time for full thoughts but basically: assimilation mechanic never came into play because town stomped from very early on, unfortunate but sometimes thats the way it goes. there are obvious obstacles to the mechanic of scum jumping to a new account that make it tricky/intimidating to use, some of these can be compensated for but if i ran a game like this again i'd have to clarify things/add mechanics to make assimilation more favorable. for an initial run of the setup i wanted to make it reasonably simple, though. had idea for some complex item based mechanics but cut them down to make something more familiar to most players. maybe more tomorrow.

[petapan]

Btw on the setup:
I feel like this setup would be balanced if it was not known the Things had no power roles, but knowing that every power role had to be town, I do think the setup was townsided, here.

For it to not be, assimilation needed to be more viable than it actually was. I thought that we had only three power roles--the 1x cop, the 1x "messenger" (friendly neighbor), and the 1x vig--because that was three conftown, and that we

maybe

had room for like a 1x doctor (or as it turned out, x-shot bodyguard).

With the knowledge that Things had no PRs, that's about the level I'd expect for town power, but we had another investigative on top of that.

If we didn't have the knowledge of Things not having PRs, then I think the town has the perfect level of town power; this setup would be close to the balanced range in a mini normal, for instance. The lack of flips and Things having the assimilation mechanic would aid the scum, as would the lack of knowing for sure some things.

But imo, it needed to be one of the two, not both.
We needed either fewer PRs with the knowledge we had, or the number of PRs with less knowledge than we had.

That said, obviously, scum elimination with scum guilty and town being right on the third meant scum got a disproportionately bad start, and I think the win was

mostly

from good play, but I def think it was townsided at least somewhat.

i do think revealing the things had no power roles was a mistake, i somewhat absent-mindedly gave that info out in the setup posts without thinking about the implications. that being said, the only confirmable power roles in the setup were the friendly neighbor, which cleared itself regardless, and the vig, which is basically always town in MS site meta. i suppose the motion detector could confirm itself too but that's a somewhat unlikely scenario.

it is hard to assess balance when town stomps, i think the power obviously had a cumulative strength since town rolled, the intention was building in some redundancy to counteract the no reveals + assimilation mechanics. I think, for instance, the 1-shot cop is much less powerful when getting a clear because town can't be assured the cop or his clear are legitimate, and even if they are, if they haven't been jumped on later days. motion detector in most instances is unlikely to get anything useful at all. i think probably the vig was underestimated in review where it was seen as being mostly antitown, which was probably not correct.

but yeah basically was counting on the prs being less useful than they actually were

[petapan]

My brain as it turns out gets unhappy trying to read games with similar icons but garry 2 did the job well ! ty for modding and gg

i have been yelling at peta on discord about this exact issue lole

yeah this was obviously an issue, i basically had to throw stuff together at the last minute so I just pulled the pictures of the characters off the wiki, i didn't have a problem with them but obviously it was for other people, if i were to do another iteration of this i probably try to make the avatars more visually distinct? of course it's hard because a lot of the movie takes place indoors at night, it's not a brightly lit movie most of the time

[petapan]

these were my guesses:

MacReady~ skitter30
Blair~ cephrir (this is the one guess that i have no fucking clue about and my confidence in it is zero)
Childs~ mastina
Clark~ elements
Nauls~ greeting
Palmer~ datisi <3
Copper~ kittytacky
Norris~ pooky
Bennings~ ydrasse
Garry~ rh9
Fuchs~ lukewarm
Windows~ thestatusquo
Lars~ radical rat

the thestatusquo guess was solely because the way windows was linking posts was identical to how shea does it. but i should've known that the fact the posts didn't feel similar at all was important

you did very good but fireisredsir had absolutely absurd accuracy

[petapan]

PTs

Things:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=90065

Garry/Freedom Notes:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=90078

Dead/Spec:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=90066

Mod:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=90063

[petapan]

Doesn't assimilation happen after action though?

Original you could have sent the message
Gotten assimilated
Assimilated-you sees what actions original you had taken
And thus known original you sent the message

Like once you have access to the account you can see everything the slot did previously, no?

Also fwiw i still think this would have been really cool

was suggested the things needed more incentive to assimilate given the difficulties in doing so in a forum setting (in addition to all the stuff about posting styles and timezones, there's the simple factor that in a forum game it's usually easy to tell what nightkills "should" happen and it usually will be obvious if someone jumps - but if a scum is generally being townread it's rarely in their interest to jump to a new account)

i definitely did not consider the possibility both sides could be ambiguous about the FN message effectively making them unable to be jumped while the other was alive

i was worried about scumsiding the setup too much with a mechanic like this but if if i ran a V2 of the setup i would probably have something like that to make the things stronger. that wouldn't be for some time though obv

[petapan]

it's way late for me so i don't have time for full thoughts but basically: assimilation mechanic never came into play because town stomped from very early on, unfortunate but sometimes thats the way it goes. there are obvious obstacles to the mechanic of scum jumping to a new account that make it tricky/intimidating to use, some of these can be compensated for but if i ran a game like this again i'd have to clarify things/add mechanics to make assimilation more favorable. for an initial run of the setup i wanted to make it reasonably simple, though. had idea for some complex item based mechanics but cut them down to make something more familiar to most players. maybe more tomorrow.

this setup could def be run again - I remember this also happened first time Divide and Conquer got ran it ended day 1

well i mean i can't re-run a closed setup but i'd throw in some tweaks

[petapan]

also thing pt is now released