Micro 1082 - I’m the Real Tracker (Day 4)

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@Jason:

Are you happy or sad at the State of Origin result today?

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VOTE: Jason

For not caring about State of Origin.

(Fair enough though)

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Do you not think you've narrowed down that pool yourself by claiming on page one?

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I have to disagree with that and I find it actually inherently scummy to be suggesting a no-lim with the intensity that you are. This is the only thing you're pushing and my gut reaction is that it stinks.

UNVOTE: Jason
VOTE: Kowahbunga

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Isn't it a bit odd that you say it isn't indicative, rather than 'I don't think it's indicative'?

I find it pretty scummy and to be honest I find it pretty goofy that you're defending it based on what, meta?

Ninja'd by Bingle: Uh

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Isn't it a bit odd that you say it isn't indicative, rather than 'I don't think it's indicative'?

what does this mean

I find it weird that there's no hesitancy from Merlyn in calling it specifically 'Not Scum Indicative.

Like they very clearly say that 'It's not scum indicative of them', which isn't preceded by an 'I think or anything like that - it's a very definite statement backed up by absolutely nowt.

UNVOTE: Kowahbunga
VOTE: Merlyn

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Getting a bit frustrated with this, I shan't lie.

I raise a point about the language being used by a player, and how it points to a more informed (read: mafia) perspective, and three of you jump down my throat?

It feels like I'm being told that trying to game-solve is bad and to be honest the votes on me are all significantly worse and reactionary than my votes which have at least had a smidge of thought put into them.

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I really don't see the value in no-limming D1. That's pretty universal - I would take a no-lim over the lim of someone that I think 99%+ to be town, but that's a pretty rare occurrence.

In this game it still doesn't make sense as a strategy to push a no-lim. We don't need a full playerbase in order to generate information, and to be honest even from a mechanical perspective - shit will be easier to work out if we have less players.

I'm a bit miffed at the focus on mechanical solving in D1 over plain old scumhunting - I do genuinely feel like Merlyn has something to hide on this because of how they described Kowah's actions as Not Scum Indicative, rather than intimating that it isn't certain.

Clearing someone of scumhood through purely meta reeds less than 100 posts into the game just doesn't scream town so my vote is on Merlyn for now.

Those of you with votes on me in particular, I'd encourage you to commit to game solving and telling me why it's worth eliminating me for calling out something I find scummy.

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You didn't say it's NAI. You specifically said it's Not

Scum

indicative.

I've never claimed that you townread Kowah.

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It's pretty odd to me that this plan is being attributed to kowah by a bunch of different people. Vizzy was the first one to bring it up.

Kowah had three posts advocating for no-lim when I posted. Invisibility had one.

Bit of a point here:

The semantics argument is a real lazy way to define and discredit my points.

Why would Merlyn go to the lengths of specifically saying that what I had pointed out was Not Scum Indicative due to meta, but then not comment on when Invisibility also advocated for a No-Lim? Maybe she's right, maybe Kowah is just a cautious player, but there's a certainty to what they said about it specifically being Not Scum Indicative, referencing meta from when Kowah was town.

I just don't see why Town!Merlyn would approach this with that kind of confidence in a 'this person isn't scum'-read. She then goes on to weirdly kind of recant this with the following:

I don't actually have any townreads yet at all, you're all leaning a little scummy to me lol.

Pretty easy card to play with just over 100 posts in the game.

#106 doesn't make sense.

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Delta, what was scummy about Merlyn clearing Kowah of scumhood, as you put it?

How would Town!Merlyn be so convinced NotScum!Kowah through purely meta? What's the benefit for Town!Merlyn in doing this?

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*snip*

I agree UNVOTE: we are thinking the same thing.

I find it a smidge suspect how you agree with me in full after being called out for sheeping the vote on me.

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Tbh my kneejerk reaction to your claim was 'what the shit' so I'm a bit iffy on you and so JW's statements speak to me. I don't think I've seen them saying that people should target you though?

Also, has your read on Merlyn changed or do you still see her as town?

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And I think my aversion to using meta kind of blinds me to the positives of it - so I've not got much input on the differences between that game and this one.

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Invis are you good?

Cause I was talking about Merlyn, not you.