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[camelCasedSnivy]

why didnt you just ask in here lol

[camelCasedSnivy]

@biancospino if an Insurgent uses a secret vote, does that affect the results of Recount?

sorry need to confirm for my own sanity

[camelCasedSnivy]

ill wait for the response before i switch but forgot sac existed

[camelCasedSnivy]

wait actually i kinda like doing that then recount + sac

[camelCasedSnivy]

wait

[camelCasedSnivy]

ope

[camelCasedSnivy]

HURT: Election Security

i wanted to wait for mod response but oh well

[camelCasedSnivy]

Sorry about the hydra dissonance again

what was the dissonance about btw

[camelCasedSnivy]

Do you think I would lie about something that easily confirmable?

- Alianna

like i said, i needed to confirm for my own sanity

idk, maybe youre pulling a super slick maneuver i just want to be safe

[camelCasedSnivy]

unless Insurgents dont have secret votes and shes trying to get rid of our money

its impossible to tell, so im gonna slap a big label on it which spells "NAI"

[camelCasedSnivy]

Do you think I would lie about something that easily confirmable?

- Alianna

like i said, i needed to confirm for my own sanity

idk, maybe youre pulling a super slick maneuver i just want to be safe

This is the first thing Snivy has done all game that seems towny to me actually. You could have asked in the thread but you didn't. It's easily confirmable, so he's confirming, what's the problem?

alright

[camelCasedSnivy]

Do you think I would lie about something that easily confirmable?

- Alianna

like i said, i needed to confirm for my own sanity

idk, maybe youre pulling a super slick maneuver i just want to be safe

This is the first thing Snivy has done all game that seems towny to me actually. You could have asked in the thread but you didn't. It's easily confirmable, so he's confirming, what's the problem?

I don't find it problematic, I'm just asking why he seems so concerned about it.

- Alianna

...wrong account.

- Alianna

lol this is the first time I've seen you altslip the other way around I think

Not even a mainslip, a slip from my other alt lol.

- Alianna

true

Do you think I would lie about something that easily confirmable?

- Alianna

like i said, i needed to confirm for my own sanity

idk, maybe youre pulling a super slick maneuver i just want to be safe

This is the first thing Snivy has done all game that seems towny to me actually. You could have asked in the thread but you didn't. It's easily confirmable, so he's confirming, what's the problem?

I don't find it problematic, I'm just asking why he seems so concerned about it.

- Alianna

...wrong account.

- Alianna

lol this is the first time I've seen you altslip the other way around I think

Not even a mainslip, a slip from my other alt lol.

- Alianna

true

[camelCasedSnivy]

I have a question about recount- has this been answered already?

Recount ($60,000) -- discover if there were one or more Insurgents on the wagon for the last execution.

Does this mean we learn how many insurgents, or is like a yes or no thing?

Pedit: it amuses me that you would post a link to where I was sacrificed with my blessing and I was town

i would assume its yes or no

[camelCasedSnivy]

I have a question about recount- has this been answered already?

Recount ($60,000) -- discover if there were one or more Insurgents on the wagon for the last execution.

Does this mean we learn how many insurgents, or is like a yes or no thing?

Pedit: it amuses me that you would post a link to where I was sacrificed with my blessing and I was town

i would assume its yes or no

Then what's so great about it?

we can parity check 2 people

[camelCasedSnivy]

I’ll have to do the math though

60000 + 0 = 60000

[camelCasedSnivy]

oh for optimal recount?

[camelCasedSnivy]

I want to stick with Torture and T Post please

did this change after what deal with the devil proposed?

[camelCasedSnivy]

i almost wanna say everyone on torture vote gets ever so slight scum points at an attempt to overturn the torture target

[camelCasedSnivy]

i almost wanna say everyone on torture vote gets ever so slight scum points at an attempt to overturn the torture target

I have no idea what you're trying to say here?

in the case marci is scum (or maybe FL but doubt) scum would want to control the torture vote onto a town player (which is better for them)

[camelCasedSnivy]

cool

[camelCasedSnivy]

if marci is town, she did it to herself at this point.

Honestly, i scum read Merlyn more on a Marci Town flip for hard TMI'ing.

so merlyn is scum regardless of the flip

[camelCasedSnivy]

how many people on the wagon is mechanically better

[camelCasedSnivy]

wait what

[camelCasedSnivy]

shit there was a hidden part of it

[camelCasedSnivy]

HURT: Sacrfice

this too mayb

[camelCasedSnivy]

VOTE: RCEnigma

this seemed like a universal scumread yesterday but due to marci push it never went through

[camelCasedSnivy]

also either we decide sac target depending on flips now or everyone but leaf who votes for recount goes into sac meeting

[camelCasedSnivy]

i feel the exact same way but for some reason it sounds weird when you say it

[camelCasedSnivy]

confirmation bias

[camelCasedSnivy]

i feel the exact same way but for some reason it sounds weird when you say it

this

[camelCasedSnivy]

like what myself said

[camelCasedSnivy]

This changes things. We have more planning to do than I originally thought. We should decide who is the vote out and who should be on it.

UNVOTE:

That’s what we are doing.

Meow said we should vote for now, and see where everyone lies, and then we can unvote later

true

This changes things. We have more planning to do than I originally thought. We should decide who is the vote out and who should be on it.

UNVOTE:

That’s what we are doing.

Meow said we should vote for now, and see where everyone lies, and then we can unvote later

true

[camelCasedSnivy]

Imagine waiting whole deadline.

Sick.

Anyway, there's not much we can do, so some math:
11p
7vs4

We execute me
6vs4

Then presuming there was two people voting me:

T+T= Confirms them. 3 conftowns can win game pretty easily, but it's dreamland.
T+I= Gotta be 1vs1. Wrong pick result in 5vs4 and probably lose.
I+I= No chance to error, but again it's evidence to execute 1 insurgent, not both.


And you want additionally try to sacrifice someone. And mafia probably can kill.

Yes. Good idea guys. Bring it.

flavor leaf might be poisoned too

[camelCasedSnivy]

ugh if we mislim do insurgents win

[camelCasedSnivy]

HEAL:

mannnnn

[camelCasedSnivy]

oh i actually didnt know that wasnt explicitly a thing

man i suck at remembering rules

[camelCasedSnivy]

So what does 'condemn Marci and we'll see' mean?????

If Marci had flipped scum, that would make FL's musings possible. But he's saying, 'flip Marci and we'll see' like SHE'S TOWN. While HE'S VOTING FOR HER.

basically "we'll see" means if shes scum then your case is valid but at the time I didn't wanna tunnel on marci just because of FL

[camelCasedSnivy]

only person i would reasonably have pivoted to at the time would be RCEnigma but the interest for the wagon was not really there

[camelCasedSnivy]

ah shit is that a quickhammer

[camelCasedSnivy]

OH scum have control of sac

[camelCasedSnivy]

why is this still running

[camelCasedSnivy]

VOTE: Enchant
HURT: Assassination

rce dont you want the greater good of utopia

[camelCasedSnivy]

yo shouldnt we vote assassination

we cant stop it from happening can we

[camelCasedSnivy]

right that sucks

[camelCasedSnivy]

i dont see why bianco would keep the game running other than to write flavor idk

[camelCasedSnivy]

why

[camelCasedSnivy]

OH I SEE WHY

[camelCasedSnivy]

ok we good then

[camelCasedSnivy]

VOTE: No Elim

[camelCasedSnivy]

oh lmao

[camelCasedSnivy]

wait if this actually works that would be fucking hilarious

[camelCasedSnivy]

i think the worst scum can do is poison

[camelCasedSnivy]

if scum cant kill then we could kill one scum tommorow and marry the other two to ensure

even if theres poison i think it should still work?

[camelCasedSnivy]

also all voting effects should be gone anyway so no need to worry about that

[camelCasedSnivy]

ya im also sorry to penguin/infinity and marcistar

[camelCasedSnivy]

It just costed your game.

are we supposed to care

[camelCasedSnivy]

coolio

[camelCasedSnivy]

imagine theyre able to super saint a voting option that would be funny

[camelCasedSnivy]

Guildhall has the option to let town win instantly if you give bianco 10K robux

[camelCasedSnivy]

yo enchant im actually elon musk and if you do whats best for utopia ill give you twitter

[camelCasedSnivy]

collectively conceding is the faster way out

[camelCasedSnivy]

HURT: Injunction

[camelCasedSnivy]

forgot that Injunction technically isnt affected by the xelo rule

[camelCasedSnivy]

oh yeah thats probably better for us but it might give scum more money

[camelCasedSnivy]

ya true

HURT: Appointed Jury

the mech hurts my brain

[camelCasedSnivy]

so we decide the jury right so can we hammer no lim now

[camelCasedSnivy]

why cant scum pivot onto jury

[camelCasedSnivy]

@biancospino for appointed jury, we decide who the members of the jury are as a vote correct?

[camelCasedSnivy]

just need to make sure man

[camelCasedSnivy]

actually we can probably hammer it anyway

[camelCasedSnivy]

injunction takes away half a vote from us but we get a vote back so unless they can kill with 50K then its a good play

[camelCasedSnivy]

i mean if we're going jury route instead of infiltrating injunction then nothing better to do than hammer and pray game doesnt end

[camelCasedSnivy]

this was a lost game anyway but its kind of funny that we got to this point

[camelCasedSnivy]

ya wrong choice

[camelCasedSnivy]

Still got a vengekill

[camelCasedSnivy]

gg

[camelCasedSnivy]

if scum dont tmi slip it is somewhat scumsided

[camelCasedSnivy]

i have only one question

why did snivy send me a prod

wtf snivy

i forgot you died mb

[camelCasedSnivy]

wait bianco actually went through with it lmao thats kinda funny