Micro 1090: Fruit Mafia - Vegetable Chat

DragonEater70 · Post Post #19 (isolation #0) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:08 pm

Halo!

I will read the main thread later, but did we crumb anything lemon/lime related yet?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #20 (isolation #1) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:10 pm

Cause if not I really wanna go "YESS I GOT THE BEST FRUIT EVER" (referring to dragonfruit)

DragonEater70 · Post Post #22 (isolation #2) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:16 pm

Okay so if it's fine with you I would actually like to tey playing with no dostancong and mutually townreading each other and probably Skitter and make a towncore.
This is probably very risky and dumb, but I think bussing is overrated and in almost any game I've played or read I saw people scumreading others for "distancing", so I would like to avoid that kind of behavior. Also it woud be really fun to have a towncore that's made of scum

So what do you think?

In post 21, Aristeia wrote:

Quoting for a ping

DragonEater70 · Post Post #23 (isolation #3) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:16 pm

Like to try*

DragonEater70 · Post Post #24 (isolation #4) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:16 pm

Distancing*

DragonEater70 · Post Post #27 (isolation #5) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:53 pm

I guess I can bus you Day 2 or Day 3 but for now let's form that towncore

DragonEater70 · Post Post #28 (isolation #6) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:09 pm

Also FYI Skitter does know me as scum and I am really afraid of getting her to ELO. Which is why I'll get her consensus townread and then strongarm her death before ELO.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #30 (isolation #7) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:38 pm

You do? Because I have no clue what I am doing (I just lost 3 scum games in a row)

DragonEater70 · Post Post #31 (isolation #8) » Tue Aug 15, 2023 5:57 am

Should I switch to Datisi or keep pushing Night Shade? I was gonna vote Datisi but then I saw Skitter's vote and changed my mind.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #32 (isolation #9) » Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:16 am

Okay I just want to rant that whenever I read a player's post and think to myself that it's scummy and try to develop a read from it I remember I'm scum and everyone except me and you are town and I will never be able to find scum

I'm so sad.

(but /srs for a sec: I think the only option is to stop pretending I'm scumreading people and start forcing other people into a corner where they have no choice but to be scummy, and then eliminate them. I've never done this online but I have done this IRL so it might just work.)

DragonEater70 · Post Post #33 (isolation #10) » Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:34 am

Ari I'm so lonely in this scum thread, when are you coming backkkk?

Also, do you think you can come up with a reason for a vote on Night shade or even just sheep me/Skitter? I think it would be awesome to put some serious pressure on the hydra.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #36 (isolation #11) » Tue Aug 15, 2023 11:48 pm

Oh thanks :3

I think you are also doing well.

And I really should have a look at that game thread soon. But not this minute.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #37 (isolation #12) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:06 am

I don't think I'm doing well any longer

Seems like I backed myself into a corner with the Skitter things.

What do I dooooo

This is like my first game as real scum, ever.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #40 (isolation #13) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:21 am

I like your tips, I'll try to be more whimsical.

But I thought I was already being whimsical with my dragonfruit thingy.

Also, you are pretty whimsical this game which definitely feels townie (I think).

DragonEater70 · Post Post #41 (isolation #14) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:54 am

Okay TemporalLich replacing into that slot is basically almost a guaranteed win for us I think.

Like I know he's voting you right now but his townread on me is solid and I think I can easily convince him to TR you, and I also think Skitter is slightly pocketed by me and Datisi is slightly pocketed by you and this could really work out!

OMG we doing so well.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #44 (isolation #15) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:09 pm

In post 42, Aristeia wrote: uh I don't think anyone townreads me ? I think it might even make sense for you to bus vote me here if you feel his reasoning is compelling.

its up to you though

Naaah Datisi is totally going to be pocketed by you if you keep doing what you're doing. It's 100% guaranteed¹.

¹No refunds allowed. We do not bear responsibility for hurt feelings and/or eliminations that may result from relying on this statement.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #45 (isolation #16) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:09 pm

In post 43, Aristeia wrote: I like your catchup though! you are doing a great job

Thanks I will continue to do so

DragonEater70 · Post Post #46 (isolation #17) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:56 pm

Okay so I see two branching paths for us, tell me what you think (you'll probably disagree with both because you seem to really want to be bussed, but still)

Option one: I continue SRing Lich's slot and we lim them today by combining with Skitter and somehow getting 2 other people to vote with us. There's enough scummy material on the slot that this could happen, but it would be quite hard and might be incriminating.

Option two: I pocket Lich while you pocket Datisi and then we either form a towncore or just happen to SR the same slot (probably infinity or Atsi) and these guys will stop pushing us and cooperate. Then we kill someone out of Lich/Datisi/Skitter.

Which one do you want to go with?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #48 (isolation #18) » Sat Aug 19, 2023 7:54 pm

Okay cool

DragonEater70 · Post Post #49 (isolation #19) » Sat Aug 19, 2023 9:14 pm

Okay I'm rereading and I think Skitter might be mislimable.
If I start pushing her would you join in?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #50 (isolation #20) » Sat Aug 19, 2023 9:20 pm

No nevermind Shea is definitely the lim.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #51 (isolation #21) » Sat Aug 19, 2023 11:32 pm

I genuinely did not intend to hammer there, I think this situation is quite hilarious and will hopefully paint me as "stupid townie" or something.

I'm okay with maybe bussing you tomorrow but I deliberately left it open-ended.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #52 (isolation #22) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:21 am

Okay apparently I am screwed because town decided I faked something which I did not in fact fake.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #53 (isolation #23) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:22 am

I think you do the kill tonight since I'm probably be tracked if there's a tracker.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #59 (isolation #24) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:32 am

In post 56, Aristeia wrote: any idea who could be a power role?

I'll be honest, I thought it was role madness

So if it's not role madness, here's what I think:
Atsi - 80% sure they are PR
Infinity - 60% sure they are PR
Marci - 70% sure they're VT, 30% PR
Ausuka - 80% sure they are miller, 20% PR
Datisi - 80% sure they're VT, 20% PR
Skitter - 99% sure they're VT, 1% PR

I think we should kill Atsi and investigate Infinity.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #60 (isolation #25) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:34 am

In post 57, Aristeia wrote:
In post 52, DragonEater70 wrote: Okay apparently I am screwed because town decided I faked something which I did not in fact fake.
thats funny

also its just a game dont stress too much

Thanks for being a good emotional support

DragonEater70 · Post Post #61 (isolation #26) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:43 am

You managed to pocket me big time.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #62 (isolation #27) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:43 am

Now you just need to pocket Datisi.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #63 (isolation #28) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:45 am

@Cakez could you provide a dragonfruit fakeclaim?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #65 (isolation #29) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:50 am

Good question
IDK what would you make it?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #69 (isolation #30) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:38 pm

The thing is:
1. I still thing you can pocket him which would be good
2. I feel atsi is more unpredictable, and we kinda want to remove the unpredictable elements from the game, right? I dunno if it makes sense.
3. Wouldn't killing Datisi trace back to me easily?
4. Atsi also wants me dead and IMO is probably a PR

DragonEater70 · Post Post #70 (isolation #31) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:39 pm

@cakes okay what about a fake bomb claim? Could you do that?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #75 (isolation #32) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:32 am

Okay here's a question: if we kill Datisi, who do you think we mislim on Day 2?
Cause like we need 3 mislims to win and don't really care if one of us dies as long as the other lives (though of course it's easier with both alive).
WIth Datisi alive, Skitter could be an actual miselim for tomorrow. With Datisi dead, I don't really see who would push Skitter. Or do you think we kill Datisi here and then mislim Atsi and kill Skitter N2?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #81 (isolation #33) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:17 pm

In post 77, Aristeia wrote: maybe we just kill infinity here and leave datisi alive to push you so he might think why would scum leave me alive?

I like this idea

In post 78, Aristeia wrote: im like really bad at playing the mafia alignment because i dont have a lot of experience with it.

Yeah me neither. But we gonna make it work

In post 80, Aristeia wrote: gonna put this in for now:

dragoneater kills infinity

aristeia investigates datisi

Don't you wanna invest Atsi? I really think it's not likely that Dats is a PR.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #82 (isolation #34) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:18 pm

But even though I suck at scum, I feel like we're working together which is good and we

could

make this work.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #83 (isolation #35) » Tue Aug 22, 2023 1:23 am

Another question:

Is it fine with you if I make a semi-serious push on you at the beginning, that will look strong enough so that it's not thought of as "obvious distancing", before I start pushing someone else?

I really need to have a good push tomorrow for towncred, that's why I'm asking. And I feel like there's no chance I will atick with my initial push to the end of day, ao the initial one might as well be you.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #84 (isolation #36) » Tue Aug 22, 2023 1:24 am

Also Marci sounds extremely pocketable from her posting, what do you think?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #89 (isolation #37) » Tue Aug 22, 2023 7:10 am

In post 87, Aristeia wrote:
In post 83, DragonEater70 wrote: Another question:

Is it fine with you if I make a semi-serious push on you at the beginning, that will look strong enough so that it's not thought of as "obvious distancing", before I start pushing someone else?

I really need to have a good push tomorrow for towncred, that's why I'm asking. And I feel like there's no chance I will atick with my initial push to the end of day, ao the initial one might as well be you.
you can do anything you want to

it is a game and I am fine with it

That's a good attitude but I do feel we should be coordinated.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #92 (isolation #38) » Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:47 am

Oh okay.

Glad we didn't waste a kill then

DragonEater70 · Post Post #93 (isolation #39) » Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:48 am

Do you know what fruit they are?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #96 (isolation #40) » Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:58 am

In post 95, Aristeia wrote: maybe you should be suspicious of datisi pushing you and vote him because he also wanted Temporal lich dead and now he's trying to pin it on you?

It would feel like OMGUS, no?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #97 (isolation #41) » Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:59 am

In post 95, Aristeia wrote: also like temporal lich claimed already and it was like one day to deadline so it wasn't even a lolhammer

Yeah

I'm trying to show Datisi that his scumread on me makes zero sense. But I don't feel like scumreading him now tbh

DragonEater70 · Post Post #99 (isolation #42) » Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:43 am

Well I just kinda questioned it

But if you press it then I can answer that

DragonEater70 · Post Post #100 (isolation #43) » Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:44 am

I think we're doing surprisingly well.

I think Atsi mislim might be happening here, or even datisi mislim.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #107 (isolation #44) » Tue Aug 22, 2023 7:49 pm

In post 102, Aristeia wrote: also its p weird to ask ausuka to engage and then say good night to her

I guess you should at least respond in some way?

I will engage now

I didn't realize it was so lateee

DragonEater70 · Post Post #108 (isolation #45) » Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:06 pm

In post 101, Aristeia wrote: i did ask you in 612 why you had the negative reaction

I think it will be a bit weord to answer that now, so you can quote that and ask me to answer (which will give you towncred probably) and then I'll answer.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #109 (isolation #46) » Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:09 pm

I mean towncred for your consistency basically in getting people to answer your questions

DragonEater70 · Post Post #111 (isolation #47) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 8:47 am

Okay I think the lim today is either Skitt or Dats. Unless you think taking both to Elo is actually a big brain move and they'll crossvote?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #112 (isolation #48) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 8:52 am

How much do you think this post will get me scumread from 1 to 10?

Hypothetical Dragoneater wrote:
In post 633, Datisi wrote:
In post 625, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 617, Datisi wrote:
In post 592, Aristeia wrote: I dunno how I feel about dunking dragoneater I am kind of worried it'll be another townflip and then f5 elo will be awful
don't disagree, what are your other reads?

VOTE: skitter
Why?
because of the early stuff still and her ??? townread on dragon, i vaguely recall skitt being okay at reading me (or at least like, always calling out scum me in spec chats) so i'm raising an eyebrow at the vote on me (note that i am aware she may have a tendency to scumread me regardless of alignment, which is why i'm not pushing this harder) and while i was yelling at dragon at eod1 for hammering, her "i'm not sure this makes dragon scum" (presented with no further comment) gave me this distinct FEELING of TL being town and dragon being town and her capitalizing on me going batshit insane over the oopsie hammer so that she can push me once dragon flips town
Dude that's some serious paranoia (though it probably comes from a town mindset).
Like I'm not saying you wrong but is scum!Skitt known for planning lims 2 days in advance like that? Can you link a game where she does it?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #113 (isolation #49) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:03 am

Meh I felt waiting would be scummier so I just posted something that will hopefully sound better than this.

But seriously we should decide who to get rid of. Do you think we should try limming Ausuka cause her claim is scummy if there's no cop? (I'm 95% sure there isn't one btw otherwise I would've been copped)

DragonEater70 · Post Post #114 (isolation #50) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:05 am

also:

" her "i'm not sure this makes dragon scum" (presented with no further comment) gave me this distinct FEELING of TL being town and

dragon being town

and her capitalizing on me going batshit insane "

I'm pretty sure Datisi is gonna have both of us in the townbin by the EoD. So we should probably keep him.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #115 (isolation #51) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:05 am

I'm actually liking an Ausuka lim so much right now. Would really like to hear your thoughts on this.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #116 (isolation #52) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:12 am

I think you might need to claim rolecop here to "prove" that there is no cop. But only if we do go for the Ausuka lim.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #118 (isolation #53) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 6:10 pm

Okay.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #119 (isolation #54) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 6:10 pm

But if we do lim Skitter, won't it be obvious that I'm scum on D3?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #121 (isolation #55) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:17 pm

Really? Okay

DragonEater70 · Post Post #122 (isolation #56) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:02 am

In post 670, Aristeia wrote: no actually you shouldn't because my tender heart can't actually handle criticism from you i'd die

I see you decided to pocket Datisi in the end. I think it's the right move

DragonEater70 · Post Post #123 (isolation #57) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:04 am

I'm torn between riding Datisi's paranoia and limming Skitter, and the other option which is trying to look consistent and not opportunistic by making a case against Atsi and then saying that I think it's Skitter/Ausuka on D3.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #124 (isolation #58) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:52 am

Should I post this?

I had a very quick look at her ISO and I'm not feeling the townvibes from Ausuka. Like her posts are towny on the surface but I just feel something is off about the tone that I can't fully explain? But if I had to put my finger on it, maybe she's overly aggressive as a defense mechanism / a way to fake having scumreads.

Still, I think Atsi is scummier atp because at least Ausuka is trying to engage with other players and Atsi isn't.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #126 (isolation #59) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:35 pm

Okay sure

DragonEater70 · Post Post #127 (isolation #60) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:44 pm

In post 117, Aristeia wrote: rolecop is kind of a scum claim

i think we can elim skitter if marci votes there and datisi doesnt change his mind

Okay if we wanna pull this off you ahould answer my question with "Skitt wants to keep you for ELO and then you'd be an even easier miselim"

Then I'd have a very good excuse to go full paranoia and vote Skitter.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #128 (isolation #61) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:44 pm

I mean the question of why would Skitt defend me

DragonEater70 · Post Post #129 (isolation #62) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:06 pm

Okay I have this crazy idea that we lim Skitter today, then tomorrow I hard bus you and on D4 say that Ausuka is your partner.

I think it could work cause you constantly tr in a way that I would definitely find suspicious if I were town

DragonEater70 · Post Post #130 (isolation #63) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:07 pm

The other option is we somehow convince Datisi that Ausuka and Atsi/Marci are the scum team and tbh I don't know how likely that is to work.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #131 (isolation #64) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 1:20 am

If you think an Atsi lim is a good idea (tbh I would prefer a skitter lim but I didn't actually think about it so maybe Atsi is better), then you could definitively start a serious push here with saying that atsi only provided reads when they were pushed for it and it doesn't sound sincere.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #132 (isolation #65) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 1:21 am

Otherwise you should probably start convincing me in the thread why skitter is scummy / a good lim option

DragonEater70 · Post Post #133 (isolation #66) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 1:46 am

In post 750, Ausuka wrote: Ok nevermind dragon is probably just town lmao

UNVOTE:

I'm so towny I just made a aperson who was never voting me to unvote me anyway.

Ohh we so got this game in the bag

DragonEater70 · Post Post #136 (isolation #67) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:48 am

I know which is why we lim them today.

OR, we lim Skitter and tomorrow I claim cop with N1 inno on Datisi and N2 inno on you and we ignore atsi pushing me.

It's a really risky strat but it is still a valid one.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #138 (isolation #68) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:09 am

Not now

I meant on D3.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #139 (isolation #69) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:10 am

Like opening D3 with a PR claim

DragonEater70 · Post Post #140 (isolation #70) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:11 am

It's pretty bold and also probably anti-wincon for scum which is why I would get hella townread for doing it out the gate.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #141 (isolation #71) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:23 am

fuck it I'm crumbing cop with an inno on Datisi

This is gonna be so good.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #146 (isolation #72) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:29 am

In post 142, Aristeia wrote:
In post 140, DragonEater70 wrote: It's pretty bold and also probably anti-wincon for scum which is why I would get hella townread for doing it out the gate.
but you're already townread

and if Datisi is a PR you basically are dead

Which is why I won't claim it until after you rolecop him.

I don't think anyone will notice the crumb. Hoepfully

DragonEater70 · Post Post #147 (isolation #73) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:29 am

Can you tell the crumb? If you can't they can't either

DragonEater70 · Post Post #149 (isolation #74) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:31 am

In post 143, Aristeia wrote: like if we wake up with 5 alive and you claim cop with innos on 2 of us, then if you're actually a cop the scum team would have to be the other 2 people alive who will instantly know you are lying

I'll claim one-shot cop then. Or that I was roleblocked. Look this is not set in stone, but it's safer to have a crumb than not.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #151 (isolation #75) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:33 am

In post 144, Aristeia wrote: and like thats not good? you dont have to be in the cross fire at all

I guess not but I feel you are very optimistic about how f5 works for us if you don't think I have to be in the crossfire.

Fine I'll say I was oneshot cop then.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #153 (isolation #76) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:34 am

In post 150, Aristeia wrote: you're doing a great job so far

You too. But seriously if we want to lim Skitter you are going to have to convince me in the gamethread that they are scummy. This will also look very good later since normally scum don't interact with each other so much, and I feel like I would be convinced by your arguments.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #154 (isolation #77) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:35 am

In post 152, Aristeia wrote: you dont have to say anything tbh

people are kind of set up in a way that they townread you and scumread each other

you just have to be kind of undecided and let them try to convince you that they're town

That sounds like scum heaven

DragonEater70 · Post Post #155 (isolation #78) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:35 am

In post 145, Aristeia wrote: like you're doing fine as you are right now and being townread just for putting your thoughts down because in terms of relative positioning you are doing a lot more than the people who aren't playing - there's no need to do any fancy or flashy gambits because there's not a lot of upside and plenty of downside

Fine fine fine I'll just keep doing that.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #156 (isolation #79) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:36 am

Okay I really do need to sleep so good night! (I get the feeling it's not night for you yet but whatever)

DragonEater70 · Post Post #160 (isolation #80) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:50 pm

In post 158, Aristeia wrote: though if we both live to f5 it might be kind of miserable

Yeah

DragonEater70 · Post Post #161 (isolation #81) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:51 pm

I'm also hoping for skitter/datisi crossvote

DragonEater70 · Post Post #162 (isolation #82) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:54 pm

Another thing we

could

do is miseliminate marci today, kill no one during the night, claim doc with inno on datisi / roleblocker with guilty in Melo, then have town be a bit more more likely to crossvote, miselim Skitter/atsi Day 3 and then strongman kill Night 3 for the win.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #163 (isolation #83) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:01 pm

I btw the reason I constantly mention Datisi specifically as a target for faking innos or whatever is that from his posts thia game, he strikes me as the type of player who will not suddenly re-evaluate his reads just becase we hit f5 / f6, and he's currwntly reading both of (I'm pretty sure) and scum reading Skitter. Which we can utilize.

Whereas for Skitter, yeah she's townreading me right now, but knowing her, she would absolutely re-evaluate all her reads the exact second we hit f5 / f6, and might start to randomly scumread us for no reason. And then she might even convince Datisi about it and it's game over.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #164 (isolation #84) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:01 pm

In post 159, Aristeia wrote: like we would have to fake a lot of dissatisfaction with the game state >.>

Yeah

I mean I could probably do that

DragonEater70 · Post Post #165 (isolation #85) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:09 am

Ideally I would like to decide on a final lim by Sunday evening / Monday morning latest, and start steering the thread in that direction. Since rn it's a bit dispersed without any solid wagons.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #166 (isolation #86) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:10 am

In post 150, Aristeia wrote:

DragonEater70 · Post Post #168 (isolation #87) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:22 pm

Ok
I trust you since I have no real experience as playing scum

DragonEater70 · Post Post #170 (isolation #88) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:36 am

Well you definitely sound more confident than I do.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #171 (isolation #89) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:45 am

In post 798, Datisi wrote:
In post 781, DragonEater70 wrote: @Datisi
Can you tell me who you think is Skitter's partner if you think she's actually scum? Or at least who might have "partner vibes" with her? Personally I can't think of anyone except maaaaybe Ausuka but I'm not sold on that yet.
i don't fucking know homie imagine getting good partner reads in this economy

like, ausuka makes sense as a sort of they were going to powerwolf this game together team. you would make sense as a sort of, extreme level zero associate read (though i doubt it as skitter isn't showing enough wim for her to be brave enough to be making such level zero associates behind her i think). and atsi and marci are both like. i mean if you're skitter who's partners with one of them what realistically do you do. i think she'd make more sense as a marci partner rather than atsi because i don't think she'd be acting like this towards partner atsi when he's under real threat of getting yeeted so idk

i guess her being with ari is possible but i don't think ari is scum (or i just really don't want ari to be scum) so i'm ignoring that

it's like, unless you can make a VERY strong case on why skitter is not paired with EVERY SINGLE other player, i don't think "well you don't know who the partner is thereforwe i'm not gonna vote" is good

yes i know that isn't what you really said i'm tired of this game and having two people that basically refuse to play but tha i think are probtown i sense atsi is gonna die and flip green and we're losing f5 and etc

I told you about Datisi being pocketed.

Also, would it be in-character for you to say "I don't wanna have atsi in f5 if they're town, and they're super scummy so let's yeet them now"? Because it's not really in-character for me to say which is why I'm not saying it. But I have seen townies say it.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #173 (isolation #90) » Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:56 am

Fair enough

DragonEater70 · Post Post #174 (isolation #91) » Mon Aug 28, 2023 6:03 pm

Dang I think my last few posts really suck idk why I made them. Now I'm going to be sr'd
But I think I can realistically post an ISO on SKitter and start pushing her. Will you join the push?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #180 (isolation #92) » Tue Aug 29, 2023 8:37 pm

Wow this is convincing

DragonEater70 · Post Post #181 (isolation #93) » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:19 pm

Okay I just came up with the best freaking idea for a fake claim

Like I think it's pretty risky but it's funny as hell and I think if I pull it off well then Datisi and Skitter would absolutely eat it up.

We lim atsi, nightkill Ausuka, then I say I viggied her because I realized her miller claim must be fake, and also the reason I town read Skitter so hard D1 is I was sure Skitter was a cop and that's why they TR'd Ausuka for claiming miller, but D2 I realized Skitter wasn't a cop so my TR of her dropped and it made me realize there's probably no cop so Ausuka is fakeclaiming.

Idk if this makes any sense whatsoever, it's probably a horrible strat, but it's so damn funny to think about and I don't see Datisi going "yeah that's scum" but rather "oh I guess that makes sense"

And the banana peel thing would justify why scum didn't kill.

K the more I think about it the worse it sounds but I still want to try it if circumstances allow it.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #185 (isolation #94) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:18 am

I totally agree

It's just random ideas I come up with

DragonEater70 · Post Post #186 (isolation #95) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:18 am

How screwed are you by Marci's post?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #187 (isolation #96) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:18 am

I need to know this before I post more stuff

DragonEater70 · Post Post #188 (isolation #97) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:25 am

The answer is apparently "not very screwed"

Which is good

Cause I would fucking NOT WIN if I had to bus you today and then try to get two consecutive mislims.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #189 (isolation #98) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:26 am

In post 183, Aristeia wrote: also I don't think there's ever been a vig in a 9p

I don't know if there's ever been a bomb though

IDK do you think we just like claim vanilla in F5?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #190 (isolation #99) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:32 am

Oh damn I'm reading now and apparently Ausuka thinks scum is in atsi, Skitter, Datisi

That's really good for us

DragonEater70 · Post Post #196 (isolation #100) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:43 pm

Yeah I thought we shoot marci here and investigate Datisi

Then tomorrow you say you think it's skitter/datisi or skitter/ausuka, Ausuka will probably say it's skitter/datisi, I will say I think it's you/skitter and datisi will probably still vote skitter. It's like, super easy.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #197 (isolation #101) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:46 pm

In post 194, Aristeia wrote: that self hammer is wild

Yeah it is

DragonEater70 · Post Post #199 (isolation #102) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:05 pm

They are all paranoid about each other though

DragonEater70 · Post Post #200 (isolation #103) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:06 pm

I mean I guess that flips change a lot but I don't think killing Datisi is the move here

DragonEater70 · Post Post #201 (isolation #104) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:07 pm

Since we're 2 PRs, how many PRs do you think town has?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #202 (isolation #105) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:07 pm

And do you think the Miller claim is legit? Because I really don't think anyone right now is behaving like a cop

DragonEater70 · Post Post #203 (isolation #106) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:09 pm

Except maybe Marci is cop on you in which case it idk if it is a good idea to kill her, then lim you and take it to f3, or not kill her and risk people believing her claim.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #204 (isolation #107) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:09 pm

Actually she probably isn't cop because if she was she would've pushed you harder

DragonEater70 · Post Post #207 (isolation #108) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:32 pm

I think we go for fun because tbh I would have zero idea how to play an endgame with Marci

DragonEater70 · Post Post #208 (isolation #109) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:32 pm

Aristeia rolecops Datisi

DE70 Strongman kills Marci

Is this okay?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #213 (isolation #110) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:54 pm

In post 211, Aristeia wrote: killing marci when she's not even playing is such a flex kill

The thing is I am like 90% sure that her not playing is exactly why she just lolvotes us in f5 and then Skitter probably prefers her to us

But actually nvm I think skitter said Marci is scummy and it's true that killing Datisi leaves the town in a really disunited state

Do you want to kill Datisi?

DragonEater70 · Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:17 pm

But alsoooo if we do kill Datisi, who's to say that it won't cause Skitter to re-evaluate everything and find both of us out?

DragonEater70 · Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:18 pm

Are you available in about 10 hours from now?

DragonEater70 · Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:18 pm

To talk about our strategy in real time

DragonEater70 · Post Post #217 (isolation #114) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:45 am

Well lemmie know if you are available

DragonEater70 · Post Post #218 (isolation #115) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:50 am

But I was thinking about killing Datisi rolecopping Skitt and if they are VT (which I'm 95% sure they are) pocket them by saying I was sure they were cop the whole time (I actually have a good explanation of why I would think that), which would

probably

make me seem extremely uninformed. And then I just lament Datisi's death and sheep Skitter and it's GG.

Spoiler:

DragonEater70 · Post Post #222 (isolation #116) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:34 pm

But how would killing Ausuka work? Like I'm sure skitter is snart ebough not to think it's just Datisi and Marci, right? And same for Datisi.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #223 (isolation #117) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:37 pm

Like basically this is how I see it:
If town reaches ELO and see there's only one sus player alive, they'll have to re-evaluate reads. If there are 2 sus player alive they don't have to re-evaluate. Ausuka, skitter and Marci are sus but Datisi isn't (and Datisi doesn't suspect Marci)

So killing Ausuka makes Skitter and Datisi re-evaluate which is bad for us. Same with killing Marci I think.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #224 (isolation #118) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:52 am

In post 221, Aristeia wrote:

I'll tell you what, I really want to No Kill and frame it as Skitter trying to kill Datisi but getting roleblocked by the banana that Infinity planted. But I can't think of any believable claim to justify why we would know that Datisi was the NK target.

Ao first, do you like the idea? And second, can you think of any claim?

Otherwise we might beed to just kill Datisi, as unfortunate as that would be.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #226 (isolation #119) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:09 am

The thing is cop!datisi would have like, have investigated someome N1 and wouldn't be so clueless.

Which is why I really think there isn't a cop at all.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #227 (isolation #120) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:10 am

But you are right that Datisi has the highest cop equity here.

DragonEater70 · Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:34 am

I'll do that tmrw
I'll also have a look for any reason he might have to check infinity

DragonEater70 · Post Post #233 (isolation #122) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:05 pm

DragonEater70 · Post Post #234 (isolation #123) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:05 pm

I'm okay with #232

DragonEater70 · Post Post #235 (isolation #124) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:06 pm

But I have 0 fucking clue what I'm going to do tomorrow

I will be extremely miserable without Datisi to coast off of

DragonEater70 · Post Post #236 (isolation #125) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:06 pm

IDK if coast is the word
but like interact with

DragonEater70 · Post Post #237 (isolation #126) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:07 pm

It's probably the opposite of coast actually

DragonEater70 · Post Post #238 (isolation #127) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:08 pm

Okay you know what

I think in a vacuum killing Datisi is better but we're both gonna be so miserable we'll probably lose.
If you agree with this all you should do is post the following in bold:
"Dragoneater strongman kills marci
Aristeia rolecops Datisi"

DragonEater70 · Post Post #239 (isolation #128) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:15 pm

reposting for better readability:

Okay you know what

I think in a vacuum killing Datisi is better but we're both gonna be so miserable we'll probably lose.

If you agree with this all you should do is post the following in bold:
"Dragoneater strongman kills marci
Aristeia rolecops Datisi"

DragonEater70 · Post Post #242 (isolation #129) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:48 am

I also don't think it will be easier to win from a logical standpoint, I just think we will both feel less miserable.

And I don't think we can win when miserable.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #243 (isolation #130) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:49 am

Though tbh do you think we could just channel our miserableness into looking towny?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #246 (isolation #131) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 5:15 am

In post 244, Aristeia wrote: winning is overrated

True

DragonEater70 · Post Post #247 (isolation #132) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 5:16 am

Well I won't be down at all if we're killing Marci

DragonEater70 · Post Post #248 (isolation #133) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 5:17 am

Can you like post your result on Datisi as soon as you get it, so I know how to enter D3?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #251 (isolation #134) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 6:18 am

Yeah good

DragonEater70 · Post Post #253 (isolation #135) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:19 am

Well idk do you wanna change?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #254 (isolation #136) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:20 am

I mean I was planning on saying it's you/Ausuka anyway

DragonEater70 · Post Post #258 (isolation #137) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:14 am

I knew it!

DragonEater70 · Post Post #259 (isolation #138) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:17 am

currently 4/5 of my role reads were correct (I predicted Tl, Datisi, and Marci being VTs and Infinity being PR, but I was wrong on Atsi being PR)

DragonEater70 · Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:30 pm

In post 261, Aristeia wrote: hmm ok I guess if Datisi is VT and Ausuka is a miller that makes skitter the cop?

I can claim cop with a guilty on skitter n2 and an innocent on Infinity n1

or

you could claim cop with an innocent on Datisi n1 and an innocent on Marcistar n2? [I don't know who you would investigate n2]

or we could just not claim and let skitter be an uncontested cop claim if she is a cop.

what do you think?

I want to cop Datisi N1 and say I tried to investigate Skitter n2 you but was banana blocked?

DragonEater70 · Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:31 pm

In post 264, Aristeia wrote: well we didnt get a chance to jump the gun and guilty skitter b4 she claimed but she doesnt have any useful results and she suspects me/datisi so I guess there's no need to CC her unless you really want to 1v1 her

Oh

That is interesting

DragonEater70 · Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:31 pm

Well I did kinda want to 1v1 her but let's see

DragonEater70 · Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:31 pm

But actually noy

DragonEater70 · Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:32 pm

I think I want to vote you then Datisi

DragonEater70 · Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:39 pm

Holy shit we would've been SO SCREWED if we did kill Datisi in the end

DragonEater70 · Sun Sep 03, 2023 12:08 am

I really wanted to suggest that you bus me here but I'm 90% sure Skitter is protected by a banana so killing me is GG

DragonEater70 · Sun Sep 03, 2023 12:10 am

So the question is whether I bus you, or you wabt to try to pivot for a Datisi lim?

Because I don't think skitter is gonna vote Ausuka (though datisi

might

?)

DragonEater70 · Sun Sep 03, 2023 12:18 am

Fuck I should have CC'd cop and Datisi would vote Skitter

Am I that bad at scum that I didn't realize that

DragonEater70 · Post Post #275 (isolation #148) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 2:16 am

Fml I should have just claimed inno on Datisi

DragonEater70 · Post Post #276 (isolation #149) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 2:22 am

Damn I think we should've shot Skitter and blamed Marci

Though it's much easier to say that AFTER skitter claimed.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #277 (isolation #150) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:01 am

I'm so dumb why didn't I CC Skittet

DragonEater70 · Post Post #281 (isolation #151) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:08 am

In post 280, Aristeia wrote: i guess you just have to be townier than datisi

I literally can't

DragonEater70 · Post Post #282 (isolation #152) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:09 am

In post 278, Aristeia wrote: well its too late

i know but I just think it's so freaking stupid that I was planning to claim PR since Day 1 and then when it actually makes sense to claim PR I don't.

DragonEater70 · Sun Sep 03, 2023 11:08 am

DragonEater70 · Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:27 am

You kniw what

Maybe I CAN be townier than Datisi

We'll see tomorrow.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #287 (isolation #155) » Mon Sep 04, 2023 5:52 pm

That is incredibly smart

DragonEater70 · Post Post #288 (isolation #156) » Wed Sep 06, 2023 1:42 am

Something really amusing: I told a friend about this site, he asked to read a game I was in so I linked this one, he read up to like page 6 or 7 or wherever it is I replace into the game, and he goes "damn the way you talk is really mafia-like, you are probably mafia here"

Which I find amusing since nobody was SR'ing me for that entrance I don't think. So it's beautiful how an outsider perspective can help you spot scum so easily.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #290 (isolation #157) » Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:02 pm

In post 1076, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1074, Aristeia wrote: I don't think there's anything that I'm incapable of faking and I think it'd be violating the trust tell rule if I said I only do something as town and I can't fake it as scum.
Sorry i phrased poorly and should have said something like: anything in your iso that you feel points to town-you?

But fair enuf

I need to do my homework unfortunately i havent really ruled out any pairs

If i had to commit rn it would be like dats/dragon idk

I feel like whether or not I react to this post and how I react to it might determine whether skitter will be voting Datisi or me

Please help me find how to react to this properly.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #291 (isolation #158) » Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:04 pm

Damn if Skitter votes Datisi now then all of our weird kill gambits and suboptimal decisions would have been worth it.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #292 (isolation #159) » Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:04 pm

In post 289, Aristeia wrote: that is pretty funny

Pinging you

DragonEater70 · Post Post #293 (isolation #160) » Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:06 pm

@mod are we allowed to use discord to coordinate a quickhammer when the need arises?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #294 (isolation #161) » Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:08 pm

I only ask this because I notice our activity times don't overlap much

DragonEater70 · Post Post #295 (isolation #162) » Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:37 am

I have an idea

Could you quote Skitter post where she think it's me/Datisi, say "oh okay I guess" (but with your personality thing), and then vote Datisi?

If you do that then Skitter might vote Datisi then I can hammer

Of course this might backfire, but I think it's a better option than having Skitter decide to vote me all of a sudden.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #296 (isolation #163) » Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:38 am

I meant "oh okay i guess this makes sense" or "oh okay I'm fine with voting Dats if you are really sure it's him"

DragonEater70 · Post Post #297 (isolation #164) » Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:38 am

But again, with your personality

DragonEater70 · Post Post #298 (isolation #165) » Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:39 am

Though I think I did a pretty good job of copying your posting style

DragonEater70 · Post Post #299 (isolation #166) » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:08 am

Well it's been too many hours since I posted so I think it's up to you to lead the way

DragonEater70 · Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:36 pm

DragonEater70 · Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:36 pm

In this case I'll just hold my breath waiting for Skitter to vote

DragonEater70 · Post Post #304 (isolation #169) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 2:25 am

I sent you a friend request

DragonEater70 · Post Post #306 (isolation #170) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:14 am

DragonEater70 · Post Post #307 (isolation #171) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:17 am

https://discord.gg/pYvfvPJ7

DragonEater70 · Post Post #308 (isolation #172) » Sun Sep 10, 2023 2:22 am

Datisi and Skitter are gonna LOVE reading this PT in the postgame.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #309 (isolation #173) » Sun Sep 10, 2023 5:05 am

Tbh I feel like we've done our oart and we should just sit and pray skitter susses Datisi more than us

Idk how likely it is to happen but we'll see

DragonEater70 · Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:12 am

This is so nerve wracking.

DragonEater70 · Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:15 am

Specifically Skitter's solve aligning with my "solve" (Ari/Datisi) but then going "shouldn't they have more chill vibes?"

Which like, I have no fucking clue about because I don't know the people involved and apparently everyone else does and like I guess they should but how big a factor in a read is their vibes???

Can't you just go with logic and realize that they are the only ones who make sense as scum here?

DragonEater70 · Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:15 am

I mean obviously me and Ari make more sense as scum but I think I did a good job of looking town.

DragonEater70 · Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:20 am

Okay I'll just let Skitter do her thing. I trust her to do the right choice (by which I mean, vote Datisi)

DragonEater70 · Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:21 am

Also unrelated but damn, when did I pass the 3k post mark? I thought I was at around 2,500 or so,

DragonEater70 · Post Post #316 (isolation #179) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:20 am

If you are the lim today (which is pretty likely), I kinda wanna troll by placing the hammer vote and then saying "gg ez I was scum with Datisi"

Question is, how bad do you think this will get me scumread if I do it?

DragonEater70 · Post Post #317 (isolation #180) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:56 pm

Oh damn if skitter votes Ausuka just ping me on discord and we can quickhammer.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #318 (isolation #181) » Tue Sep 12, 2023 6:30 am

Sorry for voting you

DragonEater70 · Post Post #319 (isolation #182) » Tue Sep 12, 2023 6:30 am

We could have limmed Ausuka if we were both online

DragonEater70 · Post Post #320 (isolation #183) » Tue Sep 12, 2023 6:30 am

DragonEater70 · Post Post #321 (isolation #184) » Tue Sep 12, 2023 6:40 am

Did I fuck up hammering???

DragonEater70 · Post Post #323 (isolation #185) » Tue Sep 12, 2023 6:40 am

According to Skitter I did

DragonEater70 · Post Post #324 (isolation #186) » Tue Sep 12, 2023 6:40 am

Hi cakez

DragonEater70 · Post Post #325 (isolation #187) » Tue Sep 12, 2023 6:40 am

STRONGMAN KILL SKITTER

DragonEater70 · Post Post #327 (isolation #188) » Tue Sep 12, 2023 6:59 am

I will be SO FUCKING HAPPY if we win this

I feel like I fucked up so many opportunities, like we could get Skitter to E-1 on Day 2 and wouldn't have to worry about cop on D3.

Or I could 1v1 cop on Skitter on D3

But despite these enormous fuckups we still had a victory railroaded since Skitter said Ausuka is D4 lim

But now I

maybe

ruined this with that scummy hammer.

Hopefully not though

DragonEater70 · Post Post #328 (isolation #189) » Tue Sep 12, 2023 6:59 am

Aaaaaaaaaaaaah

DragonEater70 · Post Post #329 (isolation #190) » Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:01 am

I REALLY want a fast night to end this but I also think it would be scum indicative for me to ask for a fast night

DragonEater70 · Tue Sep 12, 2023 10:42 am

In post 307, DragonEater70 wrote: https://discord.gg/pYvfvPJ7

In post 326, SirCakez wrote:
In post 324, DragonEater70 wrote: Hi cakez
Hello
In post 325, DragonEater70 wrote:
STRONGMAN KILL SKITTER

Got it

Just making sure you saw the link cause you did ask to be added but never used it

Not that it's relevant or anything.

DragonEater70 · Tue Sep 12, 2023 10:43 am

Ugh I feel so cruel for hammering Ari during her nap

DragonEater70 · Post Post #333 (isolation #193) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:40 am

In post 888, marcistar wrote: Ari - Honestly it was mainly what someone else said that has convinced me that shes scum.
Like, among all the things temporallich has said
In post 449, TemporalLich wrote:and now Aristeia's playing the "RVS vote outside of RVS" gambit and that gambit seems to have worked as it involved DE70...
DOES THAT NOT CAUSE YALL TO GO THINKY THINK? Like obviously that alone isn't enough but it interested me so much last phase that I isoed ari and convinced myself!! LIKE I SEE IT

MAYBE IM BEING DELULU BUT BEING DELULU IS THE SELULU

i'm not sure if i can explain things better than temporallich could ever. but i believe in this motion!!
i actually dont believe her "scumhunting" is actually scumhunting, i think shes just making comments along to things a majority of the time.

these are like, setting up for if it backfires and shiiii:
In post 802, Aristeia wrote:I'd be willing to vote skitter but I'm kind of terrified that if she flips town it's going to be awful and I'd really just like to get it right today

In post 796, Aristeia wrote:I don't have a very good track record of reading people who don't actually play tbh

Without reading context at all, this and a few other things in her iso reads as just shutting down convo:
In post 722, Aristeia wrote:I don't really get the impression that Datisi is leaving himself open to pushing dragons? he's like been accusing ausuka of trying to trick him into voting dragons ?

i dont like how she treated temporallich last phase.

but all over all im not interested in continuing to try to find reasons for something thats just sheeping a dead player OWO

I just wanna say this post is so fucking amazing and I'm sorry for killing you Marci if you ever read this.

DragonEater70 · Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:40 am

Also damn, I just realized I have so much blood on my hands

DragonEater70 · Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:41 am

Being scum is awesome and notsome simultaneously.

(notsome is a made up word meaning not awesome)

DragonEater70 · Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:41 am

Will this scum PT get to 15 pages before the game ends? Probably.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #337 (isolation #197) » Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:50 pm

Okay I'm just gonna post here my plan, and in fact send here exactly every single post I'm planning to send in the main thread, so I can look at it after it's written and judge how it looks.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #338 (isolation #198) » Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:50 pm

Will this make me sound extremely artificial? Maybe

Do I totally feel like anything I might do might spell immediate doom for me right now? Probably.

DragonEater70 · Post Post #339 (isolation #199) » Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:54 pm

So, I know Ausuka is actually the slot I should be pushing because I've been pushing her early Day 3 and I should be sheeping skitter.

But if I'm honest, I feel Ausuka as a player is more likely to be happy with sheeping a dead town, rather than Datisi as a player. So if sheeping skitter meant voting Datisi I would 100% vote Datisi and win. But I don't think Datisi is going to actually agree to sheep Skitter, and honestly Datisi sounds pretty convinced I am scum.

So if I vote Ausuka I'm lock scum in her eyes and Datisi will probably vote me and it's a GG.

Therefore I have to change my mind or somehow make it seem like I found new evidence to support scum!Datisi