Cheese Thief | Game 1 Over

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I have a concern that literally only arises because of what mallow said. Mallow just confirmed that there's an open timeslot that's unused. Cheese Thief can just slot in at the end now if they want to, but I also just feel generically sus that of calling the last person to claim sus

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To be fair, I don't disagree with you. I just want to ask what your plan is for that

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Also 6am

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I just woke up so I would have forgotten about it yeah.

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I have a question, because I want to make sure I'm understanding the rules right. Does the Cheese Thief need to place the cheese in front of them? When I read the rules I saw "somewhere safe" and assumed they could put it anywhere

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and why cant it be you or the skygazer/whoever else duo

Hi, we woke up at 6am

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I mean if you think that I lied about my wake claim that also means Sky also lied. And we have someone awake at 1am (when the cheese was stolen, supposedly) who can confirm we were not there?

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Honestly I don't like how snivy reacted when others called him potentially suspicious, but I'm not sure if it's because snivy isn't sure how to react or if he's worried people are catching on.

I need to see more

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I don't have the same level of problem with NDMath specifically because I can follow the logic. I understand where he's coming from.

I don't feel like I should be commenting on skygazer much, but I don't have a great read on them because all we've seen is a popcorn claim, meme reasons they should be clear, and non meme posts about them being clear. It feels a bit much

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I also don't love it.

Do you think him bringing up you and Skygazer as a possible team is Sleepy or Thiefy?

I mean it's always good to keep ideas in the back of your head, but I don't think the aggressive pushing in this direction makes any sense until snivy tells us why we lied about our popcorn claims, so thief

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oh, I could totally see why you think that furthers your theory of me being Math's follower. It makes perfect sense fypov

Let's see what Math and mallow say.

I feel like snivy is pushing for "as many people as possible" frankly. You have him pushing me and skygazer while also pushing you and Math.

This feels aggressively Thief play.

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At the risk of outing yourself to everyone immediately, yes

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I'm pretty sure this breaks spirit of the game

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Feel free to propose it lmao, but if I wanted to break a game over my knees I'd be building more Pathfinder characters right now

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Feel free to propose it lmao, but if I wanted to break a game over my knees I'd be building more Pathfinder characters right now

That made me genuinely laugh, thanks.

Yeah of course ^^

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I still think it's snivy and it's not even close, but a split on sky/snivy is fine if that's what others want.

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The more people we include in the tie, the easier it is for thief and follower to get their way with it. 2 is fine, 3 is really pushing it because thief or follower can vote late.

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The more people we include in the tie, the easier it is for thief and follower to get their way with it. 2 is fine, 3 is really pushing it because thief or follower can vote late.

nope

So your plan to split 6 votes among four people is? Having 2 people not vote is silly imo

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... I just stated issues with all 6. This four plan is the same concept as the six plan.

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Okay you know what, screw this

I think my original gut vibe was probably correct

It's probably math+mallow as sidekick

VOTE: Math

Is it just because neither of them seem too interested in responding?

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I still feel like it's snivy. Mallow is giving me disinterested vibes, so I could see him being a follower for sure.

As for Math... honestly, I feel like I don't have a read either way. Like I'm not seeing enough, consistency wise to make a solid opinion one way or another. I don't explicitly read the first page and a half or so as a scumread, more as a state of general confusion.

When it comes to snivy, I feel like we haven't gotten anything that's actively helpful. What we

have

gotten is intent to pull us into multiple different directions and backtrack into discussions that have already ended in an unhelpful manner without adding anything new to it.

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How about this:

Mallow and NDMath, please give us sound reasoning as to why neither of you are follower or cheese thief. I would like at least a paragraph (4 sentences).

I feel like I need to see a defense I can tear apart tbh

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mallow mechanically can't be cheese thief i think

I mean yeah, so he can just skip that part

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That's ... pretty aggressively fine. I'm not sold on the meta read because I don't know what your meta is in games like this, but I think the rest of it makes enough sense.

I particularly like your reasons for not being a follower tbh.

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Silverclaw have you ever played mafia on this site or only mish mash?

I used to a long time ago under my old main. I was pretty bad at it, but it's been a decade and I've generally found my groove a bit more in social deduction games I think

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Honestly I feel like snivy is the thief and mallow is the follower.

That feels suspicious as fuck.

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That's because mallow mentioned Math but decided to not even think about mentioning you

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I feel like snivy is deflecting really hard. This isn't an attempt to get a second vote in the game, it's an attempt to save his skin, and frankly it just reads poorly to me

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Because the most likely answer has you cheese thief, I don't think this is altruistic vote sharing

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Because the most likely answer has you cheese thief, I don't think this is altruistic vote sharing

Me???

No, snivy. Sorry

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Sounds good to me tbh

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idk if we're voting to end day now but like... seems valid as fuck to me frankly

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Yeah snivy it's not me

Can I ask you a genuine question?

Is it in your scumrange to propose autoloss hoping it will be rejected and/or somehow manipulate out of it?

not as far as i took it

I don't know your games (and neither does DE I think) so we probably shouldn't be taking this at face value. This is a pretty easy lie to just say to people

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I'm willing to stand corrected on that, but this is still a pretty freaking easy lie to just say to people. It's an entirely WIFOM meta read which may or may not be correct. Especially with 0 evidence given to back it up, a "trust me on this I'm not scum" is a very weak defense

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We have literally talked it over a number of times.

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Sorry I know I'm not giving a lot here but I'm still going to go with the theory that Skygazer is the cheese thief and Silver is covering for them.

I trust DE as I know he's not the cheese thief, I suppose he could still be the follower but I don't think so as he's done the most analyzing imo

I mean that's because Skygazer's really come into their own as of late and hasn't done anything thieflike lately?

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I agree that mallow is incredibly suspicious frankly. The only reason I'm not voting for him is because he keeps confirming himself as follower lmao.

I could see a world where DE is thief, but it's mostly due to incessant flip flopping.

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As for math .. eh? I feel like people are looking for things they don't like in it a little too much. Math is aggressively fine. Not my biggest suspect, but also not clear either.

I swear to God I need to finish my posts before I send them lmao

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Yeah I felt absolutely trapped and like I could do jack all for that entire game frankly