Toriel's Patience (14/14)

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Toriel's Patience (14/14)

Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:53 pm

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Toriel's Patience


I am saving flavor energies for the game!

Spoiler: Rules
[Uncommon Rules]Experienced players are often tempted to skim the rules, so here are the rules most unique to my modding to be most aware of.
  1. You must play to win the game, in maximum harmony with other ongoing games, and
    at the expense of future games.
    Players who claim to be playing less than full strength to realize benefits in later games may be force replaced. Players who do so secretly may not be detectable but I admonish you.
  2. Do not say you would concede if you were not town. On the other hand, if you are not town, you may PM about concessions.
  3. If you feel totally unable to play to your win condition for any reason, please request replacement upon realizing this.
  4. This game is using a special rule that relates to hammer testing and quickhammer coordinations. Anytime you make a post in the game thread where you could win the game if you and all of your antitown allies made a vote, you have 10 minutes to PM the mod and link or quote the post and indicate your understanding that you've met that condition. The post doesn't need to include a vote. Unvotes after the potential winning post do not matter. If you do so properly, the mod will edit your post to include a game winning vote and teammate proxy vote(s) that win the game.
  5. Discuss site/game rule violations with the moderator/listmod, not in the game thread.
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  4. You may quote a private topic if it is fully known(everyone alive reading the post is also permitted to view the post in the private topic it came from.)
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  8. Don't hide information using shared reminiscence.
  9. Do not discuss this game outside this thread or PTs related to this game you have access to.
  10. Do not use provable randomness. Saying you used a random criteria is fine, providing even weak evidence that you did so isn't.
  11. Do not fake mod posts/edits.
  12. Once you are dead you may not post. No bah posts.
  13. Be civil to other players. Criticize play, not players. As one rule of thumb, negative nouns or profane adjectives that describe a player will start strikes against you; describing actions of a player will not.
  14. No set of rules can be complete. If you think something is wrong, please don't do it. Breaking the spirit of rules is also disallowed. Do not encourage others to break the rules either. If in doubt, please PM me.
  15. During the course of the game I may add extra rules if necessary. These rule changes will be announced publicly.
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Deadlines, Activity, and replacements
  1. Nights will last 52 hours. Similar mafia controlled decisions last 52 hours.
  2. Prods will be issued if you do not post for 52 hours.
  3. If you get three or more prods, or fail to respond to a prod by posting in thread within 28 hours (or by PM if at Night), I will begin seeking for a replacement (this means the third prod functions like a notice that you are racing the search for your replacement.)
  4. If you receive a prod and satisfy that prod, you are "on probation" for the next 100 hours after responding to that prod. Meeting criteria for a prod during probation immediately triggers the search for your replacement even if it's your second prod.
  5. If you expect to be unable to post for a while, please declare V/LA in thread. Should your V/LA be unreasonably long (>=6 days), however, I encourage and may require replacement. There's no probation during V/LA.
  6. You will still be prodded while on V/LA, but these will not count towards the above three prod limit. An official prod will be sent 24 hours after your V/LA ends if you haven't posted then.
  7. When replacements or prods happen at night, deadlines will be tolled as appropriate to conceal information. If it is possible to conceal information and avoid tolling by forcing the active part of a faction to make decision on behalf of the entire faction, though, the deadline will not be tolled.
  8. Factionally aligned groups can choose actions for eachother and submit actions by PTs.
  9. For replacements, day deadlines are extended by the length of time between the missing player's due post and the first post of the new player. A post that does little more than acknowledge they've replaced into the game isn't counted as that post. Don't exploit this rule.
  10. If you would like to replace out, please PM me. Do not publicly replace out, discuss about wanting to replace out, threaten to replace out, or persuade/dissuade others from replacing out.
  11. Once your replacement request is publicized, it is final. You must cease to post. Inquiries about possibly retaining the slot must be conducted by mod PM.

Voting Rules
  1. Use VOTE: to vote.
  2. Once majority is achieved, it is final, and the Day will end immediately with further votes and unvotes being invalid.
  3. If majority is not achieved by deadline, I will privately contact the mafia to decide on behalf of the town.
  4. I will do my best to ensure that each vote count is accurate. Check the vote counts. If I make a grave error I may reset all votes at my discretion.


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Setup:
Spoiler:

3 Mafia
11 Town
Nights 1-3 are skipped.
One player is randomly, publicly Toriel at game start. Toriel's vote is doublestrength on day one and normal strength thereafter. Players cannot vote for Toriel, even though Toriel might be mafia.
On Day 2.5, players vote to choose Mercy or Fight. If Mercy is chosen, for the rest of the game subsequent eliminations are flavored as sparings and town wins if town spares four townies and loses if it spares two mafia.
If Fight is chosen, those effects are simply not applied.
Day 3 lasts one prod timer and voting is disabled. The day 3 elimination is Toriel.


Signups
  1. Dannflor
  2. Aristeia
  3. Lazy Shirou
  4. Brown Eyes
  5. Dunnstral
  6. Meuh
  7. Sakura Hana (unconfirmed prein)
  8. Merlyn
  9. Keyleth
  10. Mandate
  11. Alisae
  12. Taly
  13. implosion
  14. beeboy
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1 (isolation #1) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:01 pm

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If I can have your attention for an important initial matter:

While this setup has been though extensive initial review, I was thinking through the setup and felt Day 2.5 may be undemocratic-in-practice in a way that is less than perfect from a QoL perspective, although pretty balanced either way. The game will be on evens in 2.5, with Toriel incentivized to vote Mercy in most gamestates, requiring a 7-5 consesus to choose Fight.

A substantial number of people have pre-inned to the setup after reviewing the original version, but before any alignments are rolled, I would like some input about the following change:
  • Toriel has one vote in day 2.5 -> Toriel has zero votes in day 2.5
Maintaining the 2 votes in D1 and one vote in D2.

I do not think the original setup is unplayable or imbalanced but I thought this would probably be funner!

Please post a little input, or explicit difference, when confirming your pre-in or joining and we'll decide what to run. Thank you!
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #18 (isolation #2) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:38 am

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By my count, there are no more slots, but one person can post here to reserve the if-Sakura-Hana-doesn't-confirm spot.
Though I hope she joins us.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #20 (isolation #3) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:46 pm

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[*]Dannflor
[*]Aristeia
[*]Lazy Shirou
[*]Brown Eyes
[*]Dunnstral
[*]Meuh
[*]Sakura Hana
[*] Merlyn
[*] Keyleth
[*] Mandate
[*]Alisae
[*] Taly
[*] implosion
[*] beeboy

I'll get this started tomorrow after work PST
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"

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