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This in particular I don't understand. If you think StD is scum because it took him awhile to post, why would him posting make you suddenly think he's town? Your main reason for thinking he's scum still exists
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Post #59 (isolation #10) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:26 am
Postby Black »
Why are you being so secretive about your read on me though? We know it's based on 10. You're right about me but I don't see why scum couldn't post that
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Post #65 (isolation #12) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:38 am
Postby Black »
In post 62, Psyche wrote:
i find it kind of wasteful to talk too much about townreads. i’m supposed to be looking for scum, right? if i get everyone thinking ur town (best case scenario) then you get NKed or something and i lose my townread. i’d prefer you be medium suspected until the moment of truth where it’s between you and actual scum and i use my verbal kung fu to save you from certain death and town from certain defeat. the crowd will go wild and i’ll finally feel worthy of my mother’s love again.
Not sure if I should laugh at that last sentence or not
Yes, you're supposed to be looking for scum, but part of that is figuring out who is probably not scum in order to reduce the PoE. Finding townies is pretty important
I understand your logic about not wanting everyone to townread me but I highly doubt you'd be able to do that based on your read on 10. It's a pretty NAI post imo
Anyway I just wanted to pick your brain to see if the read was real but I don't think I'm getting anywhere
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Post #67 (isolation #13) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:40 am
Postby Black »
In post 63, Doctor Drew wrote:
Ok I glossed over that, but I feel scum would show the appearance of a more thought out read, specifically to avoid this very discussion we are having.
I agree, which is why I said I'm not sure his posts are scum motivated
What would be the scum motivation from Psyche to post as he has?
Well I was wondering if he's trying to make something out of the way I mentioned StD in my opening post. The mention of 'alliances' makes me think that way, dunno what it means otherwise. If StD is town then playing up a connection there could be beneficial to scum, and they'd want to focus on Dragons first. Could just as well be town trying to make something of the comment. Mostly I'm just struggling to find a train of thought because Psyche seems all over the place. I can't tell how serious to take anything because stuff that seems possibly like an honest thought promptly gets undermined with tongue-in-cheek commentary.
In post 81, MargotRosa wrote:
The fact that some of the reads are wild and borderline nonsensical to me actually makes the town read a little stronger, as I think scum are more likely than town to appear to be putting in effort early rather than just pushing to make something happen from which to generate reads
This is kinda of a long the same lines I was thinking, yet I would say it is more NAI than anything
So not really along the same lines at all? If she thinks it's town indicative and you think it's NAI then where is the similar train of thought here
In post 69, Psyche wrote:
i…i liked the way you counted your odds of landing a vote on scum, okay?
I thought this might be what you were thinking, but yeah thats really weak. I... don't think scum could possibly be confused enough to try to give the odds of someone being town from a scum PoV because the concept makes no sense from the PoV of someone who already knows.
to be clear, the rationale is that i don't think scum would bother to add that detail, not that i think they'd get the odds incorrect
This is believable
Devil's advocate though, I could add it if I wanted to look townier
Not my fault they haven't posted to give me anything to work with! Margot is just dead null, Drew is maaaybe a smidge below and the rest of ya a little over null. Z is as good a place to suspect as any.
I was kinda feeling good about Margot's posting. Any reason you don't feel good about them?
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Post #140 (isolation #25) » Tue Jan 09, 2024 4:57 pm
Postby Black »
In post 121, MargotRosa wrote:
You stopped contributing and are just adding to your post count with nothing.
Not really vibing with this though
Drew could be scum but I don't think this is a good reason at all. It's pretty typical to have some posts that aren't meant to progress the game. Saying Drew has stopped contributing isn't really fair
Also, why even call it a PoE, are you seriously feeling that good about your townreads on page five, without Z even posting? How can Z be out of your PoE without posting? Are you actively scumreading Drew and I?
I'm calling it a PoE because that's essentially what it is
No I don't feel confident in any of my reads
Z is off my radar completely. He absolutely could be scum though
I'm not scumreading either of you but you're both probably south of null for me
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Post #152 (isolation #30) » Wed Jan 10, 2024 7:53 am
Postby Black »
In post 151, Psyche wrote:
uhhh
what now?
i guess i should try harder to choose between drew and alianna
std's coasting act is likely guaranteed to get him through D1 right
There's no rush
We still have Z who hasn't even posted yet
I haven't gotten many pings so the reads I have feel pretty weak
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Post #156 (isolation #32) » Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:07 am
Postby Black »
In post 154, Aureal wrote:
Thanks for asking before it all flees my mind! Although I nonetheless am taking the way you dropped a vote then went silent overnight only to come back with a response consisting of just one character to be a sign that you are nervous scum
Are you seriously scumreading me for not being available to post? Sorry I didn't post while I was asleep ig
In post 154, Aureal wrote:
I don't find your forming that poe to make sense with 73 which sounds like you agree with me. Forming a poe already doesn't make much sense in itself, it seems like trying to push a narrative. But the one you came up with is particularly bad, you seem to just be mirroring thread sentiment. Not including Zebedee is pretty wtf
I just said I didn't mind his PoE. I didn't say it was my PoE, I just found it somewhat believable. And I don't think it's necessary to include someone that hasn't even posted. Like of course they could be scum
In post 154, Aureal wrote:
Also I didn't like your interaction with Drew regarding Margot, it feels like interacting for the sake of it because you gave him a pass at the end but I didn't see his explanation actually explaining things
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Post #157 (isolation #33) » Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:09 am
Postby Black »
I do think your bogus read on me "going silent overnight" and then posting one character is more likely to come from town. It's just such an awful point that I don't really think scum!you would use it to try to convince others I'm scum
In post 157, Black wrote:
I do think your bogus read on me "going silent overnight" and then posting one character is more likely to come from town. It's just such an awful point that I don't really think scum!you would use it to try to convince others I'm scum
VOTE: StD
I'll go here for now
Do I need to cite scum you deciding to duck out for a bit rather than risk saying something to mess the situation up?
Yes because I don't know what you're referring to and now I'm curious
Legit though. I go to bed at 10-10:30 every night. Please don't try to use my sleep schedule against me
In post 157, Black wrote:
I do think your bogus read on me "going silent overnight" and then posting one character is more likely to come from town. It's just such an awful point that I don't really think scum!you would use it to try to convince others I'm scum
VOTE: StD
I'll go here for now
Do I need to cite scum you deciding to duck out for a bit rather than risk saying something to mess the situation up?
Yes because I don't know what you're referring to and now I'm curious
Legit though. I go to bed at 10-10:30 every night. Please don't try to use my sleep schedule against me
In post 157, Black wrote:
I do think your bogus read on me "going silent overnight" and then posting one character is more likely to come from town. It's just such an awful point that I don't really think scum!you would use it to try to convince others I'm scum
VOTE: StD
I'll go here for now
Do I need to cite scum you deciding to duck out for a bit rather than risk saying something to mess the situation up?
Yes because I don't know what you're referring to and now I'm curious
Legit though. I go to bed at 10-10:30 every night. Please don't try to use my sleep schedule against me
In post 177, Doctor Drew wrote:
but her voting std kinda seems like she wanted to lead Psyche to std over you or me
I voted for StD because I was getting bad vibes from him not doing anything, and Aureal is starting to town ping me
I wouldn't mind if some people followed me there though
What is town pinging you about Aureal?
I feel like her train of thought is coming from a town perspective
Like I said I don't really think scum!her would try to use my sleep schedule as a way to paint me as scum. It feels icky and it's not very convincing, so there's no real reason for her to even mention it if she's scum. I feel like this type of read comes from town!her that is paranoid that I'm scum, and I think it makes sense for her to be paranoid that I'm scum after recent games together
I also see the progression in her thinking I was trying to divert pressure off of you by voting for her. I don't think it's impossible for scum to have partner theories this early but this one actually feels real and genuine to me, idk
Your reads are weak and there's still a missing slot but you're actually confident enough to say this? About Drew specifically, even. This is just you putting it on the record that "no guys see, I really did want to fade Drew" after he flips scum.
I think Drew and StD are the scummiest players so far so yeah I'm down to fade either one. That doesn't mean I want to do it right now
In post 197, Black wrote:
I haven't given any reason, and I don't have to. Seem familiar?
If you think trying to take refuge in my playstyle is going to get you townpoints you should actually adopt it rather than try to cherry pick something you think I might do that happens to be convenient at the moment
I likely wouldn't need to answer such a question because I wouldn't be talking about my willingness to fade anyone without first having some strong reason for it.
I don't really care if you townread me atm. I'm kind of annoyed with you
I'll explain why I think Drew could be scum whenever I feel like it
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Post #215 (isolation #50) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:20 am
Postby Black »
In post 213, Aureal wrote:
Sorry if I'm actually bothering you two. I thought we were acquainted enough by this point that we could engage in friendly teasing banter, but I guess not.
Boy I almost want to thank my manager; spending an hour in the office yelling at each other about union stuff was a helpful jolt in pulling me out of a bad headspace where I cared about this Mafia shit.
...nope, never mind, writing this still hurts.
I don't think you need to apologize to me. I'm
slightly
annoyed with you in the context of the game but I'm not taking it personally at all
We can absolutely have teasing banter btw. That doesn't annoy me. Getting scumread for not posting overnight does, but you have every right to do that if you choose to. It's not crossing a line, but I hope you understand why it bothered me
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Post #219 (isolation #53) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:48 am
Postby Black »
In post 218, tired person wrote:
i was referring to all three nulls, with an emphasis on you. the reason is your and drew's playstyle is too chaotic for me to be able to discern your alignment based on play only, and sdt's playstyle is too mild to be able to get anything out of it either. but after a flip i could probably form better reads based on how you interacted with the person who flipped
It seems a little odd that you're already giving up on reading us, but maybe that's just how you operate. I agree that associations make reading people a little easier though
I think if one of Drew/StD flips scum then you could be a partner trying to weasel your way out of spewing them
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Post #229 (isolation #54) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 2:13 pm
Postby Black »
In post 222, MargotRosa wrote:
Christ playing this game as someone who is coming back after a long absence with little knowledge of others playing is difficult as hell. Working out where the social barriers sit is hard as hell. Anyway, I'm feeling better on Drew, and mostly just wanted to see what happened if I put them E-1, as I had no solid reads, sussed the slot and figured e-1 would give me a better idea of how to think about them.
For what it's worth, I am still sick, and in a lot of pain, so that wasn't a lie lol
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Post #236 (isolation #57) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 2:10 am
Postby Black »
In post 234, MargotRosa wrote:
At the time, I thought their response to being voted to e-1 seemed townie, but looking back, I may have just been overwhelmed by the heated emotions, which I've historically been thrown off by in the past, esp when I feel like I've contributed
This is believable, but can you elaborate on what you townread about Drew's response?
In post 239, tired person wrote:
i don't think it makes sense to ignore all the reasons she's scummy just because she had a weird read on you. if anything you should be pressuring her harder
Can you go over all these reasons you think she's scum? If it's just 211 then I don't think these reasons are very good