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Post Post #2045 (isolation #200) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:38 pm

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If you don't actually want to talk about anything, why haven't you even voted yet? I actually had just looked back at your ISO and saw that you'd had suspicion of Save the Dragons earlier so I guess he makes a reasonable amount of sense as a target choice. And then whenever I try to convince myself that you're on the level like that you go and act like this and piss it away again.

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Post Post #2047 (isolation #201) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:50 am

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In post 2043, Jake The Wolfie wrote: Shadez, if you feel like you want to end the day you can.

I can't control your action or how you use it, and suggesting anything is risky. Do what you think is best.

I think that Argon here is suspicious, trying to cast shade on me and putting my credibility into question. If I were alive tomorrow, I would almost certainly axe them.
if we live to tomorrow, we'll be voting you too so don't be worried. :P
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Post Post #2048 (isolation #202) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:54 am

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or we can compromise on dragoneater because i'd be happier knowing my reads weren't trash this game.
and there's still a part of me that thinks that we're both town who need to find each other.
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Post Post #2049 (isolation #203) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:55 am

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anyways i'm back.
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Post Post #2050 (isolation #204) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:55 am

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snipe.
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Post Post #2055 (isolation #205) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:45 pm

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In post 2053, Jake The Wolfie wrote: Unless you're proposing that the team of Jake and Progon somehow predicted the long haul, that everything would flip over and collapse when there would be no observable reason to believe that, then I would have no idea what your thoyght proccess is here.
I don't know what you mean by this. If you're a wolf, it's not hard to predict that Save the Dragons is going to be in trouble here today. Getting out ahead of it by saying you have a guilty on him is possibly a viable play, when there's a role like shaddowez has out there to use as an excuse for you surviving.

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Post Post #2056 (isolation #206) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:53 pm

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In post 2054, Jake The Wolfie wrote: I feel like I'm not being charitable here. What do you see from your perspective, Argon?
You're somewhat right: if you're town then you are not just not being charitable, you are actively being hostile and it's driving me crazy. You say your worldview drastically changed with the night's flips, but it's like you're still stuck tunneling on our slot anyway. I think I've given my perspective already, and all you do is ignore or try to scumread me even more for it. You are not confTown, but you're scumreading me for not acting like you're confTown.

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Post Post #2058 (isolation #207) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:59 pm

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Here, I color-coded a bunch of vote counts (I skipped a bunch on day 1 because lazy and not that much wagon movement)

Spoiler: Day 1
In post 250, Alianna wrote:
1.06
Votecount 1.06


SirCakez
(5):
Skygazer
, lucca261,
Not_Mafia
, Argonauts,
Save The Dragons

Argonauts (3):
SirCakez
,
Invisibility
,
Roden

Mucho Man Randy Passion
(2):
Black
,
JacksonVirgo

Black
(2):
shaddowez
, Jake The Wolfie
shaddowez
(1):
Mucho Man Randy Passion


Not Voting (1):
Hu Tao


With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to secure an execution or 7 votes to secure a no-execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-01-21 20:03:19).
In post 300, Alianna wrote:
1.08
Votecount 1.08


Argonauts (3):
SirCakez
,
Invisibility
,
Roden

shaddowez
(3): Argonauts, lucca261,
Black

Black
(2):
shaddowez
, Jake The Wolfie
SirCakez
(1):
Not_Mafia

Mucho Man Randy Passion
(1):
JacksonVirgo

lucca261 (1):
Mucho Man Randy Passion


Not Voting (3):
Hu Tao
,
Skygazer
,
Save The Dragons


With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to secure an execution or 7 votes to secure a no-execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-01-21 20:03:19).
In post 425, Alianna wrote:
1.10
Votecount 1.10


shaddowez
(4): Argonauts, lucca261,
Black
,
Not_Mafia

Black
(2):
shaddowez
,
Roden

Argonauts (1):
Invisibility

Mucho Man Randy Passion
(1):
JacksonVirgo

lucca261 (1):
Mucho Man Randy Passion

Not_Mafia
(1):
Hu Tao

Skygazer
(1):
SirCakez

Save The Dragons
(1): Jake The Wolfie

Not Voting (2):
Skygazer
,
Save The Dragons


With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to secure an execution or 7 votes to secure a no-execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-01-21 20:03:19).
In post 583, Alianna wrote:
1.13
Votecount 1.13


Argonauts (5):
Invisibility
,
Save The Dragons
,
Black
,
Roden
,
Skygazer

shaddowez
(2): lucca261,
Not_Mafia

Jacob24
(1):
JacksonVirgo

Invisibility
(1):
shaddowez

Skygazer
(1):
SirCakez

Not_Mafia
(1):
Hu Tao

Save The Dragons
(1): Jake The Wolfie
Jake The Wolfie (1): Argonauts

Not Voting (1):
Jacob24


With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to secure an execution or 7 votes to secure a no-execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-01-21 20:03:19).
In post 650, Alianna wrote:
1.15
Votecount 1.15


Invisibility
(5):
shaddowez
,
Black
,
SirCakez
, Jake The Wolfie,
Save The Dragons

Argonauts (3):
Invisibility
,
Roden
,
Skygazer

shaddowez
(1):
Not_Mafia

Jacob24
(1):
JacksonVirgo

Not_Mafia
(1):
Hu Tao

lucca261 (1):
Jacob24

Skygazer
(1): lucca261
Hu Tao
(1): Argonauts

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to secure an execution or 7 votes to secure a no-execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-01-21 20:03:19).
In post 715, Alianna wrote:
1.FINAL
Votecount 1.FINAL


Invisibility
(EXECUTED):
shaddowez
,
Black
,
SirCakez
, Jake The Wolfie,
Save The Dragons
,
Hu Tao
,
Skygazer
,
Roden

shaddowez
(2):
Not_Mafia
, Argonauts
Argonauts (1):
Invisibility

Jacob24
(1):
JacksonVirgo

Skygazer
(1): lucca261
SirCakez
(1):
Jacob24


With 14 players alive, it took 8 votes to secure an execution.


Spoiler: Day 2
In post 750, Alianna wrote:
2.01
Votecount 2.01


Jacob24
(E-2):
JacksonVirgo
,
Black
,
Skygazer
,
Save The Dragons


Not Voting (7): Jake The Wolfie, lucca261, Argonauts,
shaddowez
,
SirCakez
,
Jacob24
,
Roden


With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-02 17:23:21).
In post 800, Alianna wrote:
2.02
Votecount 2.02


Jacob24
(E-1):
JacksonVirgo
,
Black
,
Skygazer
,
Save The Dragons
,
Roden


Not Voting (6): Jake The Wolfie, lucca261, Argonauts,
shaddowez
,
SirCakez
,
Jacob24


With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-02 17:23:21).
In post 825, Alianna wrote:
2.03
Votecount 2.03


Jacob24
(E-1):
JacksonVirgo
,
Black
,
Save The Dragons
,
Roden
, Argonauts

Not Voting (6): Jake The Wolfie, lucca261,
shaddowez
,
SirCakez
,
Jacob24
,
Skygazer


With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-02 17:23:21).
In post 903, Alianna wrote:
2.FINAL
Votecount 2.FINAL


Jacob24
(EXECUTED):
Black
,
Save The Dragons
,
Roden
, Argonauts, lucca261,
JacksonVirgo


Not Voting (5): Jake The Wolfie,
shaddowez
,
SirCakez
,
Jacob24
,
Skygazer


With 11 players alive, it took 6 votes to secure an execution.


Spoiler: Day 3
In post 926, Alianna wrote:
3.01
Votecount 3.01


SirCakez
(2):
JacksonVirgo
,
Black

JacksonVirgo
(1): Jake The Wolfie

Not Voting (6):
Save The Dragons
, lucca261, Argonauts,
Skygazer
,
shaddowez
,
SirCakez


With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-05 20:12:42).
In post 950, Alianna wrote:
3.02
Votecount 3.02


SirCakez
(1):
JacksonVirgo

JacksonVirgo
(1): Jake The Wolfie
Save The Dragons
(1):
Black


Not Voting (6):
Save The Dragons
, lucca261, Argonauts,
Skygazer
,
shaddowez
,
SirCakez


With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-05 20:12:42).
In post 1100, Alianna wrote:
3.03
Votecount 3.03


SirCakez
(1):
JacksonVirgo

Save The Dragons
(1):
Black

Black
(1): Jake The Wolfie

Not Voting (6):
Save The Dragons
, lucca261, Argonauts,
Skygazer
,
shaddowez
,
SirCakez


With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-05 20:12:42).
In post 1203, Alianna wrote:
3.04
Votecount 3.04


SirCakez
(1):
JacksonVirgo

Save The Dragons
(1):
Black

Black
(1): Jake The Wolfie
shaddowez
(1):
Save The Dragons


Not Voting (5): lucca261, Argonauts,
Skygazer
,
shaddowez
,
SirCakez


With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-05 20:12:42).
In post 1290, Alianna wrote:
3.05
Votecount 3.05


SirCakez
(E-2):
JacksonVirgo
,
Skygazer
,
Black

Skygazer
(2):
SirCakez
, Argonauts
Black
(1): Jake The Wolfie
shaddowez
(1):
Save The Dragons


Not Voting (2): lucca261,
shaddowez


With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-05 20:12:42).
In post 1306, Alianna wrote:
3.06
Votecount 3.06


Skygazer
(E-1):
SirCakez
, Argonauts, lucca261,
Black

SirCakez
(2):
JacksonVirgo
,
Skygazer

Black
(1): Jake The Wolfie
shaddowez
(1):
Save The Dragons


Not Voting (1):
shaddowez


With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-05 20:12:42).
In post 1325, Alianna wrote:
3.07
Votecount 3.07


Skygazer
(E-1):
SirCakez
, Argonauts, lucca261,
Black

shaddowez
(2):
Save The Dragons
,
JacksonVirgo

SirCakez
(1):
Skygazer

Black
(1): Jake The Wolfie

Not Voting (1):
shaddowez


With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-05 20:12:42).
In post 1475, Alianna wrote:
3.08
Votecount 3.08


Skygazer
(E-1):
SirCakez
, Argonauts, lucca261,
Black

shaddowez
(E-2):
Save The Dragons
,
JacksonVirgo
, Jake The Wolfie
SirCakez
(1):
Skygazer


Not Voting (1):
shaddowez


With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-05 20:12:42).
In post 1539, Alianna wrote:
3.09
Votecount 3.09


shaddowez
(E-1):
Save The Dragons
,
JacksonVirgo
, Jake The Wolfie, lucca261
Skygazer
(2):
SirCakez
, Argonauts
SirCakez
(1):
Skygazer

Save The Dragons
(1):
Black


Not Voting (1):
shaddowez


With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-05 20:12:42).
In post 1609, Alianna wrote:
3.10
Votecount 3.10


shaddowez
(E-1):
JacksonVirgo
, Jake The Wolfie, lucca261,
Save The Dragons

Save The Dragons
(E-2):
Black
,
Skygazer
, Argonauts
Skygazer
(1):
SirCakez


Not Voting (1):
shaddowez


With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-05 20:12:42).
In post 1650, Alianna wrote:
3.11
Votecount 3.11


shaddowez
(E-2):
JacksonVirgo
, Jake The Wolfie, lucca261
Save The Dragons
(E-2):
Black
,
Skygazer
, Argonauts
Skygazer
(1):
SirCakez


Not Voting (2):
shaddowez
,
Save The Dragons


With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-05 20:12:42).
In post 1727, Alianna wrote:
3.12
Votecount 3.12


shaddowez
(E-2):
JacksonVirgo
, Jake The Wolfie, lucca261
Skygazer
(E-2):
SirCakez
, Argonauts,
shaddowez

Save The Dragons
(2):
Black
,
Skygazer


Not Voting (1):
Save The Dragons


With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-05 20:12:42).
In post 1751, Alianna wrote:
3.13
Votecount 3.13


shaddowez
(E-2):
JacksonVirgo
, Jake The Wolfie, lucca261
Skygazer
(2):
SirCakez
,
shaddowez

JacksonVirgo
(2): Argonauts,
Black

Save The Dragons
(1):
Skygazer


Not Voting (1):
Save The Dragons


With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-05 20:12:42).
In post 1800, Alianna wrote:
3.14
Votecount 3.14


shaddowez
(E-2): Jake The Wolfie, lucca261,
JacksonVirgo

Skygazer
(2):
SirCakez
,
shaddowez

JacksonVirgo
(2): Argonauts,
Black

Save The Dragons
(1):
Skygazer


Not Voting (1):
Save The Dragons


With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-05 20:12:42).
In post 1827, Alianna wrote:
3.15
Votecount 3.15


shaddowez
(E-1): Jake The Wolfie, lucca261,
JacksonVirgo
,
Skygazer

Skygazer
(E-2):
SirCakez
,
shaddowez
,
Black

JacksonVirgo
(1): Argonauts

Not Voting (1):
Save The Dragons


With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-05 20:12:42).
In post 1914, Alianna wrote:
3.FINAL
Votecount 3.FINAL


Skygazer
(EXECUTED):
SirCakez
,
shaddowez
,
Black
, Argonauts,
Save The Dragons

shaddowez
(E-1): Jake The Wolfie, lucca261,
JacksonVirgo
,
Skygazer


With 9 players alive, it took 5 votes to secure an execution.


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Post Post #2060 (isolation #208) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:12 pm

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In post 2059, Jake The Wolfie wrote: You, uh, don't have just 4 flips to go off of.
Skygazer, Black, Jackson, Cakez is 4 new flips
I clocked that Shadez was town immediately after I saw that Jackson was a wolf, I thought that you might've as well.
I started townreading shaddowez already the day before for the babysitter claim and the red flip solidified it more; you may recall me grousing at you for not even bothering to take the claim into account?
You also caught that I was crumbing something about Progon, so I would think that you would've at least consider that I had some form of guilty on Progon. Given those two facts alone, I thought that you would've figured out that, at least from my POV, the game was shrunk down to just finding the last scum between you and Neugon.

Given that I thought you had figured the above, it was very suspicious for you to throw shade Neugon's way, instead of showing what you thought was scummy about Lucca/Neugon.
You were obviously crumbing a result on Dragons, a guilty was the most obvious conclusion, yes. Do you not see how BAD your reasoning is here? You came into the day OBVIOUSLY CRUMBING before I've even posted and then start blaming me for responding to ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS that happened to make my reads shift because you happened to throw some crumbs in there. You're putting the cart before the horse. There is literally no way for me to NOT be suspicious in your eyes, given your behavior. Your crumbing action had little or no impact on my reads but you're assigning all of the impact to it. Why the hell did you even crumb?! There was literally no reason for it. If you're not trying to set up false suspicion on me, you're shooting yourself in the foot by insisting that it's all about yooooooou and your crumbs. All you have to do is look at the previous day to see that Dragons was almost certainly gonna be next on my list to push today, there's nothing at all unnatural about it. My PoE narrowed in the exact same way yours did, to DE and you; and yet you think it's bizarre and suspicious and can't get over the idea that your crumbs are somehow being some incredible trap you've caught the last wolf in. It's incredibly frustrating. The likely actual wolf team is just sitting there dead in the water, meekly hoping we implode ourselves over your stupid crumbs because they're too pinned down. So kindly knock it off.

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Post Post #2070 (isolation #209) » Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:10 pm

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Yeah, probably gonna vote DE here, I think the shaddowez kill is highly incriminating for him as a decent chance to turn a very bad situation he'd have to struggle with into an instant win if shaddowez babysat a townie. First maybe should make sure the others are...

...


Eh, screw it, I am in charge here.

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