Micro 1099 - Creative Mafia is Over [Over]

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VOTE: No Elimination in accordance with my manifesto

Mafia players of the world unite!

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VOTE: No Elimination in accordance with my manifesto

Mafia players of the world unite!

I'm afraid I would need to see a gesture of good will from the others first before I acquiesce to such a novel idea.

comrade Ircher, let us not wait for others! the cause of raising the consciousness of the playing class begins now, we must have the bravery to be the first to stand up!

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VOTE: Ircher

Could also be Bingle, Ranger is the only one of the 3 I am even slightly vibing for town

I expect to get fried, but tell me Doctor Drew, why are you voting me over Bingle currently if you think there's a similar probability either of us is scum? Are you perhaps scum with Bingle (who tried to make the argument (in the neighborhood) that you not sending in an intent is extremely town indicative)?

surely those of you who expect to die have the least to lose from joining our nascent movement?

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Are you afraid to put people at E-2? Why should the vote count matter?

Are you afraid to have more votes on you?

It is more that I would like to make sure votes are off Ranger.....and keep the lim between you and Bingle

Do with that info as you wish

why not turn our bloodlust against the true enemy? why fight our fellow mafia players?

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(in the neighborhood)

Tina lives in Berlin.

True story, I also live in Berlin

seizing the cities is the next step!

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- Ircher
- Ranger

The market.

if we can subvert their markets (the votecount) we can undermine their power

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okay but there are definitely players who would never do that

And when I’m on the market.

if you want mafiascum forums to be your own, vote against eliminating your fellow players! this ought not to be a marketplace where we bid on each others slaughter, but a community where we unite against the common class enemy!

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VOTE: drew

i think i'd prefer to wagon in the big hood

Why?

i want to end the game on d1

we can do this dann

everyone vote not to eliminate with me and we can turn our unified strength against the moderator

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SirBakez is still baking, I haven't reached my full power levels yet. The dough has to rise first

players reach their full power and actualisation through class consciousness, but when we are all there the dough of revolution shall rise!

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votecount 1.4

upstanding citizens

lusting for blood

(7) Ircher, Ranger, Skygazer, SirCakez, Doctor Drew, The Undead Poet, Dannflor
filthy commies (1): light_ganski
as yet apathetic... (1): Bingle

brought to you by mafiascum.net™ inc.
let the slaughter commence!
the deadline is in (expired on 2024-03-18 16:55:00)

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Whilst I still believe that the strongest move of the playing class is to unite and overthrow the mod oppressor, I fear I may be compelled to play the game and assist in the wanton murder of a member of the player-class today lest I lose the chance to promote class-consciousness on later days

(anyone still down for radicalisation pls contact me we can still wagon hellbooks comrades just say the word)

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VOTE: Bingle
I'm masons with Ircher and Bingle, this is a distancing vote.

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So buckle your belts and raise your sword
because for today we can play...

but tomorrow, we kill the mod!

also cannot believe i missed this line at the start

undead poet if you're still up for this once I've finished seriousposting lets do it

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/srs

undead poet straight out voting outside the small neighbourhood on page one, AND then justifying it with a full poem is odd

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VOTE: Ircher

Could also be Bingle, Ranger is the only one of the 3 I am even slightly vibing for town

I expect to get fried, but tell me Doctor Drew, why are you voting me over Bingle currently if you think there's a similar probability either of us is scum? Are you perhaps scum with Bingle (who tried to make the argument (in the neighborhood) that you not sending in an intent is extremely town indicative)?

could you expand on what bingle said in the neighbourhood? because this seems like a very sus thing to think on page 2

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VOTE: ircher
the croissant told me to vote here

did the croissant say anything in particular about the game, and why this was a better vote than bingle?

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okay but there are definitely players who would never do that

And when I’m on the market.

do you view yourself as being on the market here? a kind of class traitor maybe?

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genuinely i keep coming back to drew/ircher being S/S

let's kill drew

i'm getting potential bad vibes for drew with both ircher and bingle actually

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VOTE: drew

i think i'd prefer to wagon in the big hood

(in the neighborhood)

Words move faster

In the neighborhood, Bingle has proposed that Doctor Drew and Dannflor are much more likely to be town since everyone in the small neighborhood submitted intents. Bingle's reasoning is that scum would have discussed the setup, and neither Dannflor nor Doctor Drew would pass up the opportunity to submit a gimmick for an intent.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMM

VOTE: doctor drew

under protest because we should be uniting against the mod oppressor, but if we are to murder we ought to find the scum team, overthrowing the true oppressors can wait

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wait UNVOTE: sorry I didn't realise this was E-1

I'll finish my reread and then I may put that vote back

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yolo solve: ircher + cakez

why cakez?

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my pool rn is {bingle, ircher} from the small group and {drew, dannflor} from the large group

Ik that dannflor is probably a very tinfoil hat SR for most people here, and his being one of the only players making decent content probably counts against this too, but his attitude towards this basically being a meme game reminds me of how I used to play as scum in meme games and that's pinging me hard. In a game low on game advancing content it's easy to go under the radar as scum just by looking *useful*. this also applies to drew here

plus ircher's comment about bingle's spec about drew and dannflor feels prescient somehow (especially if bingle is the small group scum). because I don't agree at all w bingles point and it seems so superfluous to make when their actual ingame conent has been song lyrics.

in fact bingle just apparently abandoning the meme in the neighbourhood just feels all wrong considering how committed to the bit they are here and i dont understand the motive (if bingle could explain in the group and ircher or ranger could relay that response itd be great)

I think drew has scum equity with both ircher and bingle, plus the reasoning for the {bingle, dannflor} linkage also applies to him

everyone else is town for me rn

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I probably need to go over the last two pages again before deadline but I have the whole day off so I'll have time

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VOTE: ircher

3 hours left, yolo hammer time

this was hammer right or am I miscounting

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wait no that's four votes isn't it

VOTE: ircher

should've probably been bingle instead but eh it's pretty close

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Hellbooks has truly dealt a blow against the player class today, in the form of driving us to kill amongst our own

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wait no that's four votes isn't it

VOTE: ircher

should've probably been bingle instead but eh it's pretty close

So did you have time to reread? Why should it have been Bingle, and how was it close between us? I don't recall whether you explained why not Ranger.

I reread but I didn't glean much else from it

it should've been bingle bcos bingle has just posted song lyrics, but simultaneously has actually (according to yourself) been talking in the neighbourhood so clearly does have thoughts on the game and wants to conceal them. I can understand keeping to the bit (I mean I tried to) but I think the way bingle has done it makes them look like they could be engaging when they aren't

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yes that's my point precisely, that's his approach to this game and it feels scummy to me

k why did you single out bingle over light ganski who has had a similarly contentless approach to the game

If we're being fair, Bingle has made more of an effort to use the gimmick to reveal alignment in comparison to light's useless no elimination proclamation.

okay nvm I think ircher flips red

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Well, can you cite evidence to refute my assertion? I can cite evidence to support it.

no, I can't cite positive proof of a negative

but it would be useful for you to cite where bingle has been helpful in this game, like at all

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I am a plurality cop; Bingle and light_ganski share an alignment.

VOTE: Bingle

Let’s get this scum.

I was about to ask why you were scumclaiming until I remembered you always fake claim

_{and that this is an open}

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VOTE: lightIt's prob light and Bingle

I agree. However, I’ll vote the confscum first.

if ranger were scum why not vote me and put off dying an extra day (as she's significantly more townread than bingle)

VOTE: bingle

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As much as I appreciate your snark, doesn't make you town

Sure.

That'd be my role PM.

Ya but Light voting Bingle

Would sure be nice if anyone else was playing the game as well

If you're scumreading me harder than bingle or ranger, why arent you voting me? (This question goes for everyone else as well - especially on the Ranger wagon)

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UNVOTE:

somethings bugging me

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VOTE: lightIt's prob light and Bingle

I agree. However, I’ll vote the confscum first.

if ranger were scum why not vote me and put off dying an extra day (as she's significantly more townread than bingle)

VOTE: bingle

actually dont agree with myself here anymore

the real question is would scum!ranger play to self preserve or would she rather keep me alive as the dedicated ELo miselimination

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if ranger were scum why not vote me and put off dying an extra day (as she's significantly more townread than bingle)
VOTE: bingle

A good question.

Still doesn't feel town from you.

earnest town who thinks they have me caught or setup to making me look like her buddy D4 after shes been killed

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also is it really a good question? I mean considering it took me several days to work out the flaw in my own thinking then maybe

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Bingle is probably correct that Drew and Dann are more likely to be town for not submitting intents.

I mean I still dont agree with this line of thinking

But at the same time I think the question I've been missing and what's bugging me here is: this line of thinking from bingle being

wrong

doesnt necessarily make this line of thinking

scummy

?

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iirc in echo bay grits we won as scum because most of the town spent D1 vigging each other and playing it like a meme game whilst we scum spent our time acting serious and gratuitously scumreading the memers

that was like a decade ago ofc

would scum submit the ostensibly anti-town intents, or would they try to look

useful

by seeming to play the game and expecting at least some of the town to treat it as a meme game (or at least a relatively casual game? I know I recieved a town role pm and I also know I submitted a memey pretentious intent not because I was thinking of what could be most pro town, but because I wanted to fuck around and have fun with it)?

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and to reverse the view, would only posting in lyrics from push upstairs be more likely to come from scum!bingle genuinely trying to play a strong anti town game, scum!bingle just playing this as a meme, or town!bingle just playing this as a meme

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and when you flip it like that you gotta VOTE: ranger

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actually UNVOTE: it's still E-1 if I do this

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/vote I mean

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this still doesnt address the question of who tf the big group scum is either

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i wish i could draw more emotion for that than just "eh"

but that sums up this game for me and I'm sorry to you all for that

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my final thoughts discounting the hammer are that bingle and ranger are kinda 50-50 and both have reasons to dislike

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but I think if ranger is scum we've lost either way

in the big group nothing I said about drew doesn't still apply

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it was probably best I was killed today rather than being left alive to be mislimmed at ELo, and that's an indictment of my play and my mindset today

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yay well done everyone

thanks for modding hellbooks, I really enjoyed the concept of this and I wish I'd been able to develop my roleplay more D2 like I'd initially intended, but it was fun nevertheless!

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bingle and skygazer are legends for pulling it off

actually everyone is a legend

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also thank you hellbooks for playing along with my statement of intent so well <3