International Mafia Month 2024

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And if you REALLY want to give the Theme Queue its due, run and play some games there!

hey good idea actually

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near vanilla is a great setup where the prime appeal is that it won't turn into a catastrophic 9 day slog. i admire the coalition, it makes a novel kind of discussion happen and the mechanic is straightforward enough where everybody gets it and doesnt have to analogize it to a typical execution vote, plus it has a storyish appeal where theres like this big calamity at the beginning of the game that you spend the rest of it trying to understand and learn from. pick your power has this impressive quality of being fun for the players in spite of always creating horribly foul gameplay and unbalanced setups. jungle oligarchy was always a compelling and elegant idea to me, although i suspect it would be better balanced with an extra werewolf (which would make it less compelling and elegant) and also multiball is like not quite mafia unfortunately. although the open queue is exactly the place for it

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i like mountainous but the nightkill is a mechanic that affects the game just like anything else and mountainous games can be thought of an excess of nightkilling. like there aren't even any masons you have to shoot or anything

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the problem with nightless mountanious is that it just takes too long to get rid of all the players (one time i tried this idea of getting rid of them faster via mod intervention). scumteams will complain about how the good town players are too hard to deal with which is of course not a real problem

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https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ation_Rule

the "EV" (probability of town winning if every execution is chosen randomly) for nightless is 100% minus 2 times the proportion of scum. so for 3 scum and 6 town thats 33% and 3 scum and 7 town that's 40%. i think a "balanced" setup has an EV vaguely in the high 30s or low 40s although i dont think there's a consistent guideline for that; the idea is that towns are supposed to be better than random selection (although worse than random selection specifically in ELo where everybody has to be exactly right or the game ends). nightless tends to perform better than that EV given the way that "towniness" works in practice, so theoretically 6 town and 3 scum is pretty fair except that those numbers sound scary to me

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ok i see that you said mountainous and not nightless. lol. i think that you would want something closer to 40% for a nightful mountainous setup so that would be um twenty-four townies

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nightless tends to perform better than that EV given the way that "towniness" works in practice, so theoretically 6 town and 3 scum is pretty fair except that those numbers sound scary to me

i thought & wrote more about this here. i think it's not quite like how i wrote above, and more like nightless setups match EV and nightful setups perform worse, but EV is just a number in any case

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the thing i wrote as "northsidegal has been killed night 1" i had originally wrote dannflor and then changed it

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i think games with nightkill are fine if the mafia gets to choose the nightkill but the execution is chosen randomly

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you kind of laundered a really villainous idea in there

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hehehe

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oh do you have a standing desk

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without Users, this would just be spp.