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In post 185, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I feel bad saying this because they’re new but not a super fan of zachs posts. I’ll let them cook though and come back to this after the game advances somewhat as it could just be nerves and not knowing what to do (as either alignment)
OMG I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT BUT THEN DECIDED TO HOLD IT BACK FOR A BIT OMG OMG ACTUALLY IN SYNC
I get that because my posts have been awkward forced and stilted af lol I just don't know how to sillypost with completely new people. I wish I had something to cook but the fridge is empty because I haven't been able to make sense of anything that has been said <3
Not sure how relevant this is but I did want to point out she self voted twice during the RVS period, once at the start and then again later.
My only solid read last night after reflecting on the thread was a townread on DE70 for trying to push out of RVS. I can get behind a halfasleep wagon but I just woke up and I'm not sure where the votes are at and don't want to put her in range of a hammer before she returns to give us content to work with.
Not sure how relevant this is but I did want to point out she self voted twice during the RVS period, once at the start and then again later.
My only solid read last night after reflecting on the thread was a townread on DE70 for trying to push out of RVS. I can get behind a halfasleep wagon but I just woke up and I'm not sure where the votes are at and don't want to put her in range of a hammer before she returns to give us content to work with.
I disagree on DE70. Feels he’s trying to slow the game down as we gather momentum
Can you elaborate on how he's slowing the game down? Not that I don't believe you, I just don't have a frame of reference to help me judge the pace of the game. I did kind of feel like KJQ was resisting going deeper into things.
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Post #448 (isolation #14) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:32 am
Postby zachheus »
Hi everyone... I'm around but haven't had a lot of time/mental energy to think about this much in the last 24 hours. Grad school has sucked my soul dry
Yeah it is, because Im purposefully dodging the question lol
You can only keep your intentions about this stuff to yourself for so long before it starts to get anti-town. I believe I mentioned the same thing to yessiree in that normal and the same applies here
I was holding onto this thought for a while actually which is why I haven't changed my vote at all yet. At first it was random tho
I know you both had reasons for inactivity so this is just more of gentle push for any reads you guys might have gleaned.
Still not sure how I feel about you. I agree with skitter saying that Dragon trying to shift out of RVS is something I think feels like a townie move but I also see the argument for the fact that we weren't in RVS for a long period of real time.
I know you both had reasons for inactivity so this is just more of gentle push for any reads you guys might have gleaned.
Still not sure how I feel about you. I agree with skitter saying that Dragon trying to shift out of RVS is something I think feels like a townie move but I also see the argument for the fact that we weren't in RVS for a long period of real time.
yup I agree, would be v surprised if not at least one scum in Ydrasse/Dragon/Skitter
Agree strongly
You went from agreeing with skitter and DE being town to strongly agreeing there is scum amongst the 3 on the flush wagon. I like the trajectory of your read but I’d love a bit more explanation on how you got there.
Oh, I was agreeing with skitter's assessment of Dragon as town but I don't think skitter is town. I think Dragon was acting in a manner that felt pro-town at the beginning but I didn't really like the spinning out that StraightFlush so succinctly summarized in 909. I still lean town on Dragon's slot despite that. halfasleep was vaguely scummy to me and the way skitter questioned why someone would even find Dragon suspicious in 755 felt weird because even I as a Dragon supporter this entire time was put off by how they were acting.
Do you think I’m scum currently? More or less than skitter?
Currently I don't think you're scum. So less than skitter. I also agree that purple's uncertainty about skitter could have some strategic scummy basis.
I don’t think skitter wagon is going to make it thru
Why not?
noone else seems very interested in voting there
Purple expressed interest though in a weird way. I specifically asked Zach if he scumread skitter more than me and he said yes (he’s currently voting me)
Pretty sure that would be the 5 we need if we wanted to lim.
In post 1180, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
yes i have kjq. i have a bind on both you and ketchup. one of you has to be town.
I agree with you, I’m a little back and forth with ketchup as there’s posts that would be a stretch to traditionally call scummy, theres some form of
potency to his push on dragon that feels forced
looking back that I wanted to iso him for but never got the chance or effort. For the things that I would consider too weird to be posted from scum I don’t think that’s necessarily true for him.
He absorbs plays like a sponge, he has put into practice one of my subtle plays at one point I don’t believe it’s a stretch he does more hidden under the guise of a huge fluff poster (I know he has a lot of content, but as a playstyle he also posts a lot of fluff)
The bolded is a very good point I hadn't considered.
I thought Dragon was acting pro-town in the beginning but their over-defensiveness when pushed shook that feeling a lot. I agree that HEM not having thoughts on skitter when first tagging in is strange because skitter DID defend Dragon quite a bit and Dragon even pointed it out. I'd like to see how HEM responds to 1212. Maybe I'm just hanging on too tightly to my initial impressions but even though my confidence was shaken I think HEM feels more town than skitter.
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Post #1346 (isolation #40) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:01 pm
Postby zachheus »
In post 1332, KayJayQueue wrote:
A purple wagon starting after I give an in-depth analysis on him, yet no actual response to that post. So what prompted the purple vote specifically?
For what it's worth, I agree with your analysis entirely
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Post #1360 (isolation #41) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:21 pm
Postby zachheus »
In post 1357, skitter30 wrote:
Yeah I feel a sense of bravado around jackson's votes that keeps pinging me but they also said somewhere that this is a purposeful playstyle choice so i'm trying not to read too much into that
This is why I have found it impossible to have a read on Jackson from the beginning
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Post #1369 (isolation #42) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:49 pm
Postby zachheus »
In post 1364, Purplemango wrote:
I don't think there will a time where it'll be like "oh yea i'm sure kay is town" or something like that
I still try to give my thoughts kinda
I can be too much sure in random things, its sound funny
I can relate to this but I think it's healthier for the game state if we (like us specifically since we're on the lower end of posting) just post more and give the others content to work with even if we aren't confident in our thoughts. The only way to improve at the game is to engage, not that I'm calling you bad or anything since I have no way of knowing but hopefully you understand what I'm saying
In post 1357, skitter30 wrote:
Yeah I feel a sense of bravado around jackson's votes that keeps pinging me but they also said somewhere that this is a purposeful playstyle choice so i'm trying not to read too much into that
This is why I have found it impossible to have a read on Jackson from the beginning
Is it? Can you elaborate
I just haven't been sure what to make of your general aura/personality and how that translates to the game. You project as knowledgeable and charismatic and it makes me sort of inherently want to give more weight to what you say since I'm quite new to all of this but I'm also aware of how that can be a bad thing lol. So I come away unsure of what to make of you.
Sorry if this is a dumb question but I'm assuming the replacements aren't as common in other queues?
My impression is that open queue forces more subs bc there are more new players/multitasking veterans that do these games as a side hustle. My standards might just be too high tho, on my home site subs are almost unheard of due to lower game frequency
My home site is dedicated to ORGs and when an onsite mafia game rolls around once in a blue moon the issue is always inactivity. Makes sense though.
In post 1635, StraightFlush wrote:
Jackson expecting me to pivot when I’m not interested/hate every pivoting option and then voting me when I express that. Cool stuff.
I’m voting you because you avoided answering my question and instead opted to justify your behaviour in a way that did not matter.
Your question is rigged because I do not know anything about scum!pov firsthand. If you think that’s irrelevant you can sod off.
I don't either but I don't think it's completely unreasonable to put yourself in that position
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Post #1656 (isolation #49) » Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:03 am
Postby zachheus »
In post 1652, KayJayQueue wrote:
The problem I have is that I think if Skitter didn’t rep out, she would’ve been limmed. So the rep out literally gave that slot new life and that’s insane to me. If there was enough to lim off of before a rep, an entrance that didn’t even provide any real detailed thoughts about the game shouldn’t be enough to take that slot off the table now.
I think their posts were more valuable than skitter being missing for nearly 48 hours
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Post #1665 (isolation #50) » Wed Apr 03, 2024 12:09 pm
Postby zachheus »
In post 1661, ketchup777 wrote:
To push through this wagon it has to be us 5: flush, kjq, jackson, ketchup, zach. i think we have the firepower. and this is such a based wagon. seriously, the difference between us potential wagoners and the offwagoners is startling to me.
I thought you had me in the same tier as Ydrasse and mango? Can I ask what changed? Or am I just the least based of the based...
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Post #1943 (isolation #55) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:09 am
Postby zachheus »
In post 1940, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 1926, Dannflor wrote:
Not Voting [1]: Purplemango
theories on purplemango's non-vote towards the end of the day?
I was thinking about this overnight and I'm still not sure. I'm trying to think about what makes sense for purple to do as scum in that situation and I think it would have seemed *more* suspicious to hammer Snivy after being so resistant for so long. But then why would he not hammer the one who was his preference to vote as of 1725? Maybe because Ydrasse said she would do it, but that reasoning doesn't sit right with me. So I'm getting very mixed vibes from the non-vote.
Sure purple is sus but he wasn’t actively working against the correct lim for a week.
HEM still comes across as town to me
So who is most likely to be paired with Snivy/Skitter?
I'm not sure, but Occam's razor says HEM's very strong defence of Snivy was town rather than scum pulling a "too scum to be scum but is actually scum" maneuver. Purple is suspect to me but I can't make out reason for the non-vote. I do feel like HEM cares about the health of the gamestate more than most though I don't want to relitigate the arguments from the end of yesterday.
I also agree that purple's uncertainty about skitter could have some strategic scummy basis.
