Open 909 | A Newbie Game | Game Over

[KayJayQueue]

Sup n00bs (myself included)

[KayJayQueue]

Newbie game means bully all the newbies right?

I stg….

[KayJayQueue]

Newbie game means bully all the newbies right?

I stg….

My backup vote is for you dw

Better be

[KayJayQueue]

i am here to provide a perfect example of what not to do in a mafia game

Thank you for your service

[KayJayQueue]

of course

have you noticed already the first step i have taken this will be on the quiz

rolling mafia?

[KayJayQueue]

do everything I say and do.

Done.

Next?

[KayJayQueue]

do everything I say and do.

Done.

Next?

Now everybody say your alignment publicly, I’ll go first.

I’m mafia

Got em!

[KayJayQueue]

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

I didn’t know it would be this easy!
I’m so good at mafia

[KayJayQueue]

VOTE: KayJayQueue

Bussing this early eh?

Bus? Where?

[KayJayQueue]

Oh shit I didn’t even know that was a rule, whoops quick Flush claim masons with me!!!!

Yes I claim masons... WITH KETCHUP

Jack in shambles

[KayJayQueue]

Dann already lagging!

[KayJayQueue]

Oh he took it back. I saw that Mr Mod!!

[KayJayQueue]

And for my first move (or technically second, the first move was giving ketchup a high five), I'm gonna try and pocket halfasleep.

*ahem*

Wow halfasleep you're so towny and funny! I loved your welewolf joke haha haha

(do you think she bought it?)

That only works on me!

[KayJayQueue]

I just gotta wave my hand and Kay is pocketed, it’s that easy guys watch


*wave*

*pocketed*

See?!

[KayJayQueue]

Masterfully done I must say

Yes Master, whatever you say

[KayJayQueue]

If I promise to not tunnel can you jump in my pocket Ketchup?

I need company

[KayJayQueue]

Masterfully done I must say

Yes Master, whatever you say

I say, you should vote Flush for betraying me

VOTE: StraightFlush

[KayJayQueue]

I take that back, vote ketchup

Fuck!
VOTE: Ketchup

[KayJayQueue]

I take that back, vote ketchup

Fuck!
VOTE: Ketchup

KJ i literally just saved you from a bus what the heck ):

If I’m driving the bus it can’t hurt me!

[KayJayQueue]

All these meme votes are gonna clutter up the VC posts so hard... have some mercy on host

Dann will love us no matter what

[KayJayQueue]

VOTE: halfasleep

i've gone cross-eyed but hopefully this is who i meant to vote for

Oh no not this again

[KayJayQueue]

origin of symmetry is my favorite album ever

“Finding God Before God Finds Me” is mine

Lets scumhunt by finding who has the objective worst taste in music and bully them out of the game

That’s easily going to be me lol

[KayJayQueue]

Ketchup let’s form a bad music taste alliance

UNVOTE:

[KayJayQueue]

halfasleep you’re invited too

[KayJayQueue]

If it wasn’t for dragon, I’d be clearly the one faded with my taste in music lmfaooo. But that is just cuz y’all are uncultured

smh

[KayJayQueue]

alright how do we wanna do this. i vote kay, kay votes ketchup, ketchup votes me?

This is a fun plan

[KayJayQueue]

VOTE: Ketchup

Sorry dann

[KayJayQueue]

i have no idea what we're achieving btw lmao

We’re winning shhh

[KayJayQueue]

Let us be cute damn it!

[KayJayQueue]

Dann killing it with these pagetops!

[KayJayQueue]

And for my first move (or technically second, the first move was giving ketchup a high five), I'm gonna try and pocket halfasleep.

*ahem*

Wow halfasleep you're so towny and funny! I loved your welewolf joke haha haha

(do you think she bought it?)

That only works on me!

Don't worry there's enough

drugged candy

compliments for everyone.

Also wow Kay you are so towny today. And I like your hair!

My hair is pretty fire, I’ll give you that lol

[KayJayQueue]

Dann killing it with these pagetops!

killng? what's that word doing in the lexicon of an innocent townie like you

And I oop-

[KayJayQueue]

He didn't stop posting after hitting 12345 posts. Literally destroying a piece of history

Most reasonable reasoning so far

I dunno…

69 was pretty compelling stuff

[KayJayQueue]

Play the game?

Okay scum

[KayJayQueue]

Okay I have an idea

Let's meme until the end of page 7 and then play the game or something.

I won't be part of it though becayse I'm either going to sleep or typing up some wallpost on another forum and then going to sleep.

VOTE: Dragon

No, RVS is forever. Only scum would want to get the game on track to something productive

Staaaaahp

[KayJayQueue]

Play the game?

Okay scum

that's what I thought! DE is scared of the RvS. A preliminary inspection allows us to discover why, of course it's a hidden acronym:
R ahhhhhhhh! Dragon is
V ery much going to get voted out as
S cum

Flawless

[KayJayQueue]

I lied. Death of Peace of Mind is the best album. Kay can you guess what the band is?

The Wiggles

[KayJayQueue]

Give me 9!

[KayJayQueue]

guys I have an announcement to make, I have caught the scumteam

liar 1:

I lied.

Death of Peace of Mind is the best album. Kay can you guess what the band is?

liar 2:

Okay I have an idea

Let's meme until the end of page 7 and then play the game or something.

I won't be part of it though becayse I'm either going to sleep or typing up some wallpost on another forum and then going to sleep.

did DE go to sleep? read on!

Okay why the hell am I second to last with post counts, that's not supposed to happen usually I'm second from the top.

Pedit: you caught me virgo, now. I have to OMGUS.

VOTE: JakesonLeo

Pedit again: guys stop posting for a moment I'm trying to post here

Pedit 3: yup

Pedit 4: uh uh

Pedit 5: STOP ITTTTTT!!!12!!1!1

NOPE

Jackson+DE wrap it up

Figures they’d both try to pocket me

[KayJayQueue]

I choose 4, halfasleep

test failed. town wouldn't have accepted.

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

(only the first to take the offer is sus. the other two are safe)

(you picked me btw, kjq picked ydrasse, ketchup picked kjq)

I double down, I want 4

ah, you've passed the secret second test. i'll sheep you wherever it takes me, boss

VOTE: halfasleep

Woah woah woah are you trying to take my place? Nooooooo

[KayJayQueue]

i claim mason with dannflor

Yeah you’re right. Once a liar, always a liar. Right?

VOTE: Ketchup

nooooooooooooooo

He’s got a point lol

[KayJayQueue]

Oh no let’s not actually though lol

[KayJayQueue]

I’m getting everyone to self vote, bow down to me

Done

[KayJayQueue]

I feel bad saying this because they’re new but not a super fan of zachs posts. I’ll let them cook though and come back to this after the game advances somewhat as it could just be nerves and not knowing what to do (as either alignment)

Hate to point this out but most if us are new lol

[KayJayQueue]

I feel bad saying this because they’re new but not a super fan of zachs posts. I’ll let them cook though and come back to this after the game advances somewhat as it could just be nerves and not knowing what to do (as either alignment)

Hate to point this out but most if us are new lol

I’m aware, not all new people are the same

Whaaaaaaat

[KayJayQueue]

UNVOTE: halfasleep

ok lol, i can't actually stay up to get us out of RVS but when i get get back i expect to see this thread immaculate. not a drop of dust, y'hear!

No promises

[KayJayQueue]

I feel bad saying this because they’re new but not a super fan of zachs posts. I’ll let them cook though and come back to this after the game advances somewhat as it could just be nerves and not knowing what to do (as either alignment)

OMG I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT BUT THEN DECIDED TO HOLD IT BACK FOR A BIT OMG OMG ACTUALLY IN SYNC

Get in my pocket already goddamn!

but you're voting me is this gonna be like enemies to lovers or

Okay you do that, I’ll do lovers to enemies. Let’s see who wins!

[KayJayQueue]

Also yeah I lied about falling asleep oh well

Mwahahaha stay awake with us dragon!

[KayJayQueue]

Nah I've come back to make a contribution, it was pretty much ignored, now it's sleepytime. Also if HA is sleeping I better be sleeping too because that cat's got insomnia or so I hear.

Nooooooo

[KayJayQueue]

Dragons stances

Innocent until proven guilty: Everyone
Guilty until proven innocent: Jackson

Seems legit

[KayJayQueue]

ooh 1000 kj posts quick screenshot it

omg

[KayJayQueue]

To be fair, I hate it but I can’t shorten halfasleeps name.

It doesn’t. Fucking. Work.

Fuck you for choosing that name

HA
HA
HA

[KayJayQueue]

To be fair, I hate it but I can’t shorten halfasleeps name.

It doesn’t. Fucking. Work.

Fuck you for choosing that name

Hmmm what else could we shorten it to?
Halfas? That sounds mean lol
Half? Maybe

[KayJayQueue]

Alright her name is now halfass

Now wait a second

[KayJayQueue]

Is it time to wagon halfass? Lesgooooo

If Jack tells me to I guess it’s time

[KayJayQueue]

Lets all halfass a halfass wagon before halfass comes and gives a halfass response calling us all halfasses

You’re such an ass lol a whole one

[KayJayQueue]

town: straightflush, KJQ, halfasleep
?: jackson, purplemango
scum: zach, ydrasse, DE, purple mango

How many mangos we got?

[KayJayQueue]

Why doesn’t anyone have a read on me lol I’m so overwhelmingly townie

I have a whole novel on you

[KayJayQueue]

Why doesn’t anyone have a read on me lol I’m so overwhelmingly townie

I have a whole novel on you

Read it to me in private

Stop mason claiming with me damn it

[KayJayQueue]

Why doesn’t anyone have a read on me lol I’m so overwhelmingly townie

I have a whole novel on you

Read it to me in private

Stop mason claiming with me damn it

Ah yes, that was what I was doing for sure

I knew it

[KayJayQueue]

i am an odd-night mason even-night mason mason enabler JOAT (mason,mason,mason)

That’s why I only get to talk to you privately half the time?! It’s all making sense

[KayJayQueue]

So cute!

[KayJayQueue]

So cute!

I know I am.. oh you meant foo foo? (Yes that’s her name)

Oh….definitely foo foo. Absolutely.

[KayJayQueue]

Um who am I currently voting for?

Jack what am I doing lol

[KayJayQueue]

now -Y- would i do something so nefarious as that...

Because I want you to and you said you were going to be the role model of what not to do. So be it

Can’t argue with that tbf

[KayJayQueue]

Oh so we’re just in the fucking twilight zone, got it lol

[KayJayQueue]

I’m getting whiplash ahhh

[KayJayQueue]

VOTE: ketchup777

more like tomato sus

ohh was this a sick pun on tomato sauce I only just got that

Looks like you were the one half asleep

[KayJayQueue]

I'm staunchly oposed to RVS longer than a few pages. The fact we're still in RVS on page 12 is really meh.

But pages =/= amount of time. Usually 3 pages takes longer. We’re just eager here lol

[KayJayQueue]

Kay who are ypu least townreading? Amd how serious is your Jack townread?

I don’t have any serious reads if we’re actually playing for realsies now. I don’t know how I was supposed to analyze all that fun we were having.

[KayJayQueue]

I don’t know how to transition into serious game playing, someone help.

[KayJayQueue]

VOTE: Ydrasse

[KayJayQueue]

It’s just one vote

[KayJayQueue]

I didn’t feel the need to explain myself to someone that referred to me as a child.

And I believe I’ll get the information I need from this vote either way.

[KayJayQueue]

Like I said, I believe I’m getting what I need from the vote.

[KayJayQueue]

I heard you, but I don’t think I need to necessarily bend to your will just because you give me advice. I feel fine with my choices so far.

[KayJayQueue]

I’m not sure how I feel about dragon, a lot of their posts keeping pulling me in two different directions

I felt weird about his explanation about not wanting to read through pages of fluff and then saying anyone repping in wouldn’t either. Why would we be trying to cater to players that might not even be joining the game? I’m not going to play games from the standpoint of how it’ll read for someone potentially repping in. Seems like an unnecessary burden to have.

[KayJayQueue]

No I think it’s NAI but I’m not a fan of it. I don’t like that that’s part of the way he began the “serious” part of the game though.

[KayJayQueue]

I didn’t feel the need to explain myself to someone that referred to me as a child.

And I believe I’ll get the information I need from this vote either way.

FWIW I don't think Ydra was calling you a child

Probably not

[KayJayQueue]

We both said it was NAI…

[KayJayQueue]

omg 69 and 420 hype

Confirmed town

[KayJayQueue]

VOTE: KayJayQueue

why

Reaction testing.

That feels a tad premature to say

Unless it was just for my reaction, but I didn’t want to give the satisfaction of reacting to a vote that felt like reaction fishing lol:

[KayJayQueue]

It was that obvious eh

Just a bit

[KayJayQueue]

Aww sleepy!!

[KayJayQueue]

Hello, enjoy our 8+ pages of fluff lol

[KayJayQueue]

Are you fucking serious

How did we go from 200 posts in an hour to “ruh roh it’s sub time” jn under two days

Dragon jinxed it

[KayJayQueue]

We both said it was NAI…

I know, but the conclusion wasn't my problem as much as three different people (you, JV, ketchup) twisting random stuff I said to mean something different than what I meant. It was very annoying.

I don’t think it was twisting your words so much as our own interpretation of what you said. Remember that we aren’t in your head and might have taken something from what you said that you didn’t mean. It doesn’t mean it was purposefully or maliciously done. Think of when I responded about being called a child and you said it wasn’t meant that way. Do you think I was twisting words then or do you think I misunderstood? I think you just assume the worst when it’s about things you say, when you should be giving the benefit of the doubt.

[KayJayQueue]

Kay do you have a read on anyone except Jack and Ydra?

I think ketchup feels town. I think halfasleep-slot is nearer to my scumreads than town.

I mostly have nulls. I’m appreciating StraightFlush and Zach so I probably won’t be convinced to vote them Day 1.

You’re an enigma to me currently lol

[KayJayQueue]

I just realized the two people I’m “appreciating” are voting me what a me thing to do damn lol

[KayJayQueue]

Okay makes sense. Would you be willing to vote Skitter with me? And also can you explain the basis of your Ydra scumread?

I don’t think I ever said I scumread Ydra. I voted her but purposely didn’t explain why.

I will say I didn’t vibe with her fluff contributions though. I preferred yours more even though they were somewhat critical near the end.

[KayJayQueue]

I just realized the two people I’m “appreciating” are voting me what a me thing to do damn lol

I moved my vote poopyhead

Now to figure out a vote that isn’t a fucking meme, geez I suck at this

When you figure out how to vote for realsies, please show me how thanks lol

[KayJayQueue]

Also, maybe it felt weird to ask you to play the game seriously when it's only been an hour, but I have done it as town before: viewtopic.php?p=14127562#p14127562

Ahh so you just hate fun!

[KayJayQueue]

Okay makes sense. Would you be willing to vote Skitter with me? And also can you explain the basis of your Ydra scumread?

I don’t think I ever said I scumread Ydra. I voted her but purposely didn’t explain why.

I will say I didn’t vibe with her fluff contributions though. I preferred yours more even though they were somewhat critical near the end.

Gotcha. So are you planning to stick with the vote? What are you planning to achieve with it?

I’ll move my vote when I have somewhere to move it.

But I’ll say that the more I get pressed to move my vote, the more I don’t want to lol

[KayJayQueue]

Why would I like fun? Do I seem like a fun-loving person? Do I look like someone who enjoys playing games? Don't be silly!

Silly dragon!

[KayJayQueue]

Glad KJQ brings up the sleepslot. I’ve never been in a game with non-prelynch subs before, do you guys tend to reset your reads on a slot if someone new fills it?

I don’t reset my reads. I give the rep-in a chance to catch up and comment on the game state. If that changes my read, I shift accordingly but I don’t clean slate them.

[KayJayQueue]

Glad KJQ brings up the sleepslot. I’ve never been in a game with non-prelynch subs before, do you guys tend to reset your reads on a slot if someone new fills it?

I don’t reset my reads. I give the rep-in a chance to catch up and comment on the game state. If that changes my read, I shift accordingly but I don’t clean slate them.

Note to self: never sign up as a sub

Nooo don’t say that. I suck at this game, don’t listen to me lol

[KayJayQueue]

i'm sure you don't suckkkk

4 Ks seems excessive. I can just regular suck, thank you very much!

[KayJayQueue]

i'm sure you don't suckkkk

4 Ks seems excessive. I can just regular suck, thank you very much!

i had to avoid 3 for my safety

Smart move

[KayJayQueue]

500!

I think you just wait around for these things lol

[KayJayQueue]

500!

I think you just wait around for these things lol

you'd think so but honestly i just keep getting lucky

Lucky number 777

[KayJayQueue]

i don’t usually care about the beginning of a game and just wanted to talk about muse

I want to call you hyperbased for that buuuuuut

I’m also a paranoid lil shit

It’s okay we can have a paranoid corner in this game. Come hang out with me there lol

[KayJayQueue]

i used to be a lot more “social” posty during the beginning of the game but it really contributes nothing to my personal solving. i usually give games some time and then pick out what i want to deal with after

also more importantly, dead by daylight

Interesting

[KayJayQueue]

Well that buddying, whether intentional or not, won’t be working now that we’re talking about it, I think that ship has firmly sailed.

[KayJayQueue]

also because it’s relevant now i don’t know if dragon was explicitly appealing to me or not in this game by backing me up and trying to engage with me but it felt a tinge strange. i’ve been letting things play out before saying anything because i am prone to doubting people on stuff like this

This just feels like fishing for votes/support on someone at E-2 but not wanting to appear too eager to wagon.

[KayJayQueue]

I vote not me for the wagon target lol

[KayJayQueue]

Don’t be sad

[KayJayQueue]

I vote to make Kay the wagon target

Ultimate betrayal lol

[KayJayQueue]

Hmm. I think I’m officially happy keeping my vote where it is. Nothing Ydra has said has given me any confidence in her as town. It’s just a bunch of non-committal, neither here nor there, easy outs for later on stuff.

[KayJayQueue]

I like dragon trying to move the game out of RVS quite a lot actually. That went on far too long

It actually didn’t time-wise. Maybe post wise from a few days later perspective but at the time, it wasn’t “too long” to anyone participating.

[KayJayQueue]

I like dragon trying to move the game out of RVS quite a lot actually. That went on far too long

It actually didn’t time-wise. Maybe post wise from a few days later perspective but at the time, it wasn’t “too long” to anyone participating.

I know but post wise can be as important as time wise, if not even more important, for thread health.

“Thread health” what is this mafia therapy lol

[KayJayQueue]

No shot dragon just softclaimed in early D1 with no prompt, please say sike. That's so dumb

It’s too obvious

[KayJayQueue]

Like I said, I believe I’m getting what I need from the vote.

What are you getting out of it

What I need lol

[KayJayQueue]

StraightFlush if you think someone has softclaimed, it's generally optimal not to draw attention to it as it may help scum direct their kills. That said, no comment on whether or not that was a claim.

That wasn’t soft my guy

[KayJayQueue]

Like I said, I believe I’m getting what I need from the vote.

What are you getting out of it

What I need lol

What do you need lol

What I got!

[KayJayQueue]

Hmmmmmm that seems circular but okay

Yeah it is, because Im purposefully dodging the question lol

[KayJayQueue]

Hmmmmmm that seems circular but okay

Yeah it is, because Im purposefully dodging the question lol

You can only keep your intentions about this stuff to yourself for so long before it starts to get anti-town. I believe I mentioned the same thing to yessiree in that normal and the same applies here

It was to gauge reactions just like yours was. My vote just got more and now it’s to the point where I actually believe it’s a good vote so I’m keeping it where it is for now.

[KayJayQueue]

Once upon a time, Dragon said we need to get out of RVS.

*a wagon starts on him*

“No not like that!”

The end.

jk jk, who is the best option then? Sleepy-slot?

[KayJayQueue]

I feel bad saying this because they’re new but not a super fan of zachs posts. I’ll let them cook though and come back to this after the game advances somewhat as it could just be nerves and not knowing what to do (as either alignment)

What didn'f you like abt them?

They were incredibly withdrawn with their posting, he posted in a way that felt like he needed to say something but couldn’t sink his teeth into it at all. Instinctively this read as scummy but I also knew there was a high chance it was NAI so wanted to wait it out, which I did

Probably worth noting that this is literally zach's first game on the whole site.

NAI it is then

[KayJayQueue]

Like I said, I believe I’m getting what I need from the vote.

What are you getting out of it

What I need lol

What do you need lol

What I got!

What do you got?

Wouldn’t you like to know

[KayJayQueue]

I feel bad saying this because they’re new but not a super fan of zachs posts. I’ll let them cook though and come back to this after the game advances somewhat as it could just be nerves and not knowing what to do (as either alignment)

What didn'f you like abt them?

They were incredibly withdrawn with their posting, he posted in a way that felt like he needed to say something but couldn’t sink his teeth into it at all. Instinctively this read as scummy but I also knew there was a high chance it was NAI so wanted to wait it out, which I did

Probably worth noting that this is literally zach's first game on the whole site.

and to roll scum! devastating

Be nice

[KayJayQueue]

I feel bad saying this because they’re new but not a super fan of zachs posts. I’ll let them cook though and come back to this after the game advances somewhat as it could just be nerves and not knowing what to do (as either alignment)

What didn'f you like abt them?

They were incredibly withdrawn with their posting, he posted in a way that felt like he needed to say something but couldn’t sink his teeth into it at all. Instinctively this read as scummy but I also knew there was a high chance it was NAI so wanted to wait it out, which I did

Probably worth noting that this is literally zach's first game on the whole site.

NAI it is then

did you only just realise it was Zach's first game?

Honestly, yeah. My bad.

[KayJayQueue]

I’ll post a VC here soonish

Words are meaningless Dann, show us that you care! Post the VC!

[KayJayQueue]

I feel bad saying this because they’re new but not a super fan of zachs posts. I’ll let them cook though and come back to this after the game advances somewhat as it could just be nerves and not knowing what to do (as either alignment)

What didn'f you like abt them?

They were incredibly withdrawn with their posting, he posted in a way that felt like he needed to say something but couldn’t sink his teeth into it at all. Instinctively this read as scummy but I also knew there was a high chance it was NAI so wanted to wait it out, which I did

Probably worth noting that this is literally zach's first game on the whole site.

NAI it is then

did you only just realise it was Zach's first game?

Honestly, yeah. My bad.

Thankfully for us, I

doxx

scout everyone's profiles before game start!

RIP for you when you stalk(ed) me. That was probably a nightmare lol

[KayJayQueue]

I’ll post a VC here soonish

dannflor more like dannsplendour (help nothing rhymes)

Dannbore. Cmon it was right in front of you

heyy i was going for positivity

@mod are you ok to go by dannthedinosaur?

Dannosaur*

[KayJayQueue]

I would like to know, yes

I told you, she got stuff!

Exactly!!!

[KayJayQueue]

I knew 5 of us were new players. I didn’t know the extent of newness!

[KayJayQueue]

I would like to know, yes

I told you, she got stuff!

I know she got stuff

Did you know she’s stuffin deez nuts in yo face?

That escalated quickly

[KayJayQueue]

I knew 5 of us were new players. I didn’t know the extent of newness!

maybe it's just me that looks at everyones postcount when I post (;

I’m on my phone so it doesn’t show post count like I (believe) it does on web. That’s why I didn’t know I was close to 1000 posts lol

[KayJayQueue]

Guys, this fluff is going to drive dragon insane. Be nice! Get back to the game…unless….what are you hiding?!?

[KayJayQueue]

I already claimed wolf, I’m not hiding squat

Wagon time!

[KayJayQueue]

skitter and i have the same eyes

are you high

[KayJayQueue]

I saw that dann…it’s all yours. Just reach out and take it!

[KayJayQueue]

He did it! Go mod go!

[KayJayQueue]

Ketchup how does it feel to be the towniest town?

[KayJayQueue]

I'm having some townpings on ketchup in the extended rvs thing; jacksonvirgo feels a little off to me tho

What makes me feel off

The way you interacted with early RVS felt a little forced to me

Nah, he lives in RVS lol

[KayJayQueue]

Like I said, I believe I’m getting what I need from the vote.

What are you getting out of it

What I need lol

Ok, can you share more please about thay?

580

[KayJayQueue]

Ketchup how does it feel to be the towniest town?

it's nice, but i'm scared of getting nightkilled ):
or am i
maybe i hacked the setup so i'm a 3-shot fruit festival

Mmm fruit

[KayJayQueue]

Reading back it was primarly kay's interaction with ydra that pinged me

Meh

[KayJayQueue]

Zach, Purple - thoughts on the last few pages?

I know you both had reasons for inactivity so this is just more of gentle push for any reads you guys might have gleaned.

[KayJayQueue]

i don't agree with any of your bottom 3 but ok

it kinda feels to me like you have arbitrarily decided to scumread certain people and townread others and that you have dug up your heels into the ground with regards to your reads and are not willing to reconsider. Respectfully, I'd advise that if you want to become a better player, you should consider reconsidering.

It seems like you disagree with his reads and are telling him he’s wrong. I don’t think it has anything to do with him being a good player or not. This post definitely feels condescend-y. How do you know he’s not willing to reconsider his reads? To assume you know better than anyone else right now is very odd to me. And to tell him that he needs to basically change his reads to be a better player is kind of ridiculous.

[KayJayQueue]

I think it was more meant in a ' hey, maybe it's time to reconsider some of your reads', but it could have maybe been said a little better

I think a lot of what dragon is getting voted for rn is more of a playstyle thing than him actually being scummy

It’s weird to push someone to reconsider reads they just came out with in the last page. I also don’t think he is blindly following anything here because he’s pushed back and asked us all questions about why we’re doing certain things. This reads way more like dragon not agreeing with reads and trying to use his experience to tell someone to change their mind which for a newbie game, I’d say is kinda not cool. You can’t just disagree with someone and tell them if they want to be better at the game, they should play the way you want them to play.

I can’t comment on why dragon is being voted, I have no idea what’s behind those votes.

[KayJayQueue]

So this is just about his read on you? The way it was framed you seemed to also be admonishing his townreads as well but I didn’t see you give reasoning why those were “wrong”. I guess that’s where my frustration was, mostly. But also, yeah, I didn’t love the condescension towards a newer player (not as new as the rest of us, but still) just because he isn’t townreading you the way you think you deserve. (I’ve been in that position and it’s not fun at all)

[KayJayQueue]

So this is just about his read on you? The way it was framed you seemed to also be admonishing his townreads as well but I didn’t see you give reasoning why those were “wrong”. I guess that’s where my frustration was, mostly. But also, yeah, I didn’t love the condescension towards a newer player (not as new as the rest of us, but still) just because he isn’t townreading you the way you think you deserve. (I’ve been in that position and it’s not fun at all)

No, it's not just the read on me. I gave it as an example.

Okay, so make a case as to why his town reads are wrong.

[KayJayQueue]

Dragon what do u think of jackson?

I’m a super cute townie boi

I agree with half of this post at least

[KayJayQueue]

Dragon what do u think of jackson?

I’m a super cute townie boi

I agree with half of this post at least

You think I’m scum?!?! Betrayal

I didn’t say which half!

[KayJayQueue]

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Apart from one game I remember where I was hella demotivated, these are my last two notable scum games (unless I’m forgetting one). I took control as much as I could in both.

Ah so you’re a mafia dom, noted.

[KayJayQueue]

Less confrontational isn’t AI for me. I try and control the whole game as a wolf, I can find examples if anybody needs it

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Apart from one game I remember where I was hella demotivated, these are my last two notable scum games (unless I’m forgetting one). I took control as much as I could in both.

cool thanks I’ll pretend I’ll read them

[KayJayQueue]

wow! that gambit that you did was amazing! what a fine scum player you are! After a thorough analysis I feel enlightened on my meta read. loved the way you outdid those poor townies!

You’re a speed reader!

[KayJayQueue]

Dragon I want to believe you, I really do but your votes have had no sincerity behind them whatsoever. I’m very confused by your gameplay so far.

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Hmm maybe the original reads on sleepy-slot weren’t crazy. It’s feeling like skitter is backing a town she thinks might be mislimmed because she knows he’s town. I just don’t see how she’s not seeing what we’re seeing and only seeing “town”. Which is not to say dragon can’t be town but to have no skepticism right now is odd.

[KayJayQueue]

Current solve: Ydrasse/skitter

Can’t wait to look like an idiot for this later but for now, I’m here.

[KayJayQueue]

VOTE: Skitter

I’m fine voting either of my current scumreads and this one makes more sense currently.

[KayJayQueue]

Dragon you are giving me serious whiplash lol

[KayJayQueue]

i don’t really think skitter is town

half’s contributions to the game were fine and seem excitable new player enjoying the atmosphere there wasn’t any awkwardness in how they interacted w people

skitter is defending a townread that i think is probably correct im not 100% on dragon being town but i think dragon is being moody in a way he wouldn’t as wolf

Your first statement and the rest of your post don’t seem to match up.

[KayJayQueue]

Looks like Dragon didn’t want to be wagoning one of the only people defending him, scum or not. So he jumped on the next wagon he saw.

[KayJayQueue]

Looks like Dragon didn’t want to be wagoning one of the only people defending him, scum or not. So he jumped on the next wagon he saw.

What do you mean by "scum or not" here?

Regarding skitter and the fact we had just formed a wagon in her.

[KayJayQueue]

Are you saying I'm not voting her regardless of her alignment?

At this moment, yes it feels that way. You switched so quickly to thinking she could be scum to “nevermind town, next wagon please” just feels like you’re in self preservation mode instead of scum-hunting mode which could be explained by the wagon you had on you I guess.

[KayJayQueue]

Okay let me explain

I don't think skitter is town. I also don't think she's scum. I don't have a strong read either way (are you noticing a trend here????)

However I feel like not voting her and voting with her is useful for me in developing my reads. You could say I'm in self preservation mode and that won't even be incorrect, as I was literally at E-1 and I don't feel like getting limmed today when barely nothing has happened and I don't trust town to find scum tomorrow because I myself have 0 clue who scum are. But aside from being in self preservation mode I'm also in "I really want to do something other than vote people I don't feel strongly about" mode, and voting skitter is not gonna help with that while voting straightflush is.

I don’t recall you ever being at e-1 but I might’ve missed it.

[KayJayQueue]

So you now feel strongly about straightflush? When did that happen? Before or after the wagon on him started?

[KayJayQueue]

So you now feel strongly about straightflush? When did that happen? Before or after the wagon on him started?

After, as I read Ydra's case and agreed with it.

You seem very impressionable this game. I really think you’re still feeling too defensive to really gather your thoughts. You agreed with me on skitter, then she said she was town, then you agreed and changed your vote, then ydra gave a case on SF and you agreed and followed the wagon. It looks to me like you’re trying to keep a wagon, any wagon, closer to lim than you without caring which wagon. And you’re more likely to jump in with those defending and/or town reading you.

You said you townread ketchup but discounted all his opinions because you didn’t agree with his read on you. Who else do you townread? Besides ydra. Do you have any strong feelings about anyone?

[KayJayQueue]

I’m asking because it’s surprising to me that you don’t. You don’t have any read on me at all? I feel like I’ve been engaging you more than almost everyone else. I guess I assumed you’d read me one way or the other by now. I understand having no reads on the two that are inactive, that’s fine we probably all feel that way.

[KayJayQueue]

I still don't ger why you're voting ydra either

obstinate town who digs in their heels when presented something that they don’t like whether or not it’s terribly AI

Insulting me at the same time you townread me isn’t the way to win me over into thinking you’re town btw

[KayJayQueue]

that post was not for the benefit of getting you to townread me

bluntly i don’t think you are willing to at this moment or maybe not in this game at all and at a certain point i shrug. can’t win em all

Never say never. It’s weird that you think I’m so unwilling to change my read at all after so short of a time. I think I’ve shown how invested I am but you can think what you’d like.

[KayJayQueue]

Dragon I want to believe you, I really do but your votes have had no sincerity behind them whatsoever. I’m very confused by your gameplay so far.

This is exactly what I’m saying, he keeps trying to gather people “for a cause” and just has no weight behind it, just none

yeah this. it’s like if you took putin, fed him some steroids and put him through a washing machine. then he comes out and expects everyone to follow him as a mighty leader just cos he survived being in a washing machine whilst on steroids

What are these analogies I’m dying

[KayJayQueue]

i’m weak and exhausted from contributing now

we‘re done for

Call it now

[KayJayQueue]

He’s voting inside his town core, everything is a lie lol

[KayJayQueue]

Dann I love your flavor this game. A++

[KayJayQueue]

That’s unfortunate

[KayJayQueue]

Holy catchup, Batman

Holy ketchup*

I’m Batman

[KayJayQueue]

Also why the actual fuck do people just give up like this, the timing here is too perfect for it not to be in-game reasons. Is it just a normal thing on this site to have multiple subs per game?

So far there have been no less than 2 in any game I’ve been in.

[KayJayQueue]

Can we get a summary of what happened? I read it but not sure how much I understand

+ I can play now!

i pushed dragon and then others pushed dragon and then dragon kept voting people until everyone was like bro what and then dragon was like what and we were like you know what and he was like no i don't and we were like well we think you're scum and he was like well i'm not and we were like well what if you are and then he replaced out

Also there was some other stuff

[KayJayQueue]

I piss and shit all over the place.

You’ll be a great addition to this game lol

[KayJayQueue]

Where is the plane in your eyes heading, KayJayQueue? Is there a specific date that the drawing is alluding to?

September 22, 2004

[KayJayQueue]

Yes please remember this is a newbie game and the new players (for the sake of this game) are: straightflush, PurpleMango, zaccheus and me. It was also halfasleep before she repped out.

[KayJayQueue]

Yes please remember this is a newbie game and the new players (for the sake of this game) are: straightflush, PurpleMango, zaccheus and me. It was also halfasleep before she repped out.

havent you played more games than me

I have 2 finished games

[KayJayQueue]

Oh ketchup do you count as a newbie too? You just seem more experienced lol

[KayJayQueue]

Yes please remember this is a newbie game and the new players (for the sake of this game) are: straightflush, PurpleMango, zaccheus and me. It was also halfasleep before she repped out.

havent you played more games than me

I have 2 finished games

oh ok snap

I just post too much. I never shut up (have you noticed)

[KayJayQueue]

unless ydrasse fixed core issues with her playstyle, i lean towards her being town. as scum, her playfulness drains to zero.

This is good to know, I’ll tuck it away for later. I might have to go do some research.

[KayJayQueue]

I will trust HEM's meta read for now until I have a reason not to.

this is a little curious given that i started the wagon on you that is currently happening lol

Do you usually expect to be scumread by the person you start a wagon on? I feel like that’s too reactionary to be realistic as a good town player.

[KayJayQueue]

But you were the first vote, if anything I think he’d be more concerned with how quickly skitter and dragon jumped on the wagon, not so much that you started it. I obviously can’t speak for him but I guess that’s my take on it.

[KayJayQueue]

It very much added fuel to my skitter scumread, seeing how malleable she seemed to be with that request to join the SF vote.

[KayJayQueue]

It very much added fuel to my skitter scumread, seeing how malleable she seemed to be with that request to join the SF vote.

even if she expressed suspicion of sf before i did…?

Yes

[KayJayQueue]

If this helps any, here are posts that have expressed my main issue(s) with the most recent gameplay by dragon:
687, 738, 782, 787, 793, 797, 800

[KayJayQueue]

i read the thread, and i understand, but i want to hear this from straightflush as it will help us read his slot better.

Gotcha. Wasn’t sure if it was in general or just him. Carry on.

[KayJayQueue]

Hi let me catch up

He’s back! Let’s gooo

[KayJayQueue]

Hi let me catch up

He’s back! Let’s gooo

The legend lives!

I will live blog any thoughts that come up as I'm reading so sorry if my opinions change as I'm posting

I fuckin love live blogging vs catch all catchup posts! I’m ready!

[KayJayQueue]

Splitting into paragraphs wasn’t invented before this post came about

What’s a paragraph

[KayJayQueue]

Oops maybe not what you wanted KJQ

I want it all, go off!

[KayJayQueue]

I'm kinda vla on fridays/saturdays, I'll be back later in the weekend

We’ll be here when you get back lol

[KayJayQueue]

This guy never misses!

[KayJayQueue]

Zach, Purple - thoughts on the last few pages?

I know you both had reasons for inactivity so this is just more of gentle push for any reads you guys might have gleaned.

Still not sure how I feel about you. I agree with skitter saying that Dragon trying to shift out of RVS is something I think feels like a townie move but I also see the argument for the fact that we weren't in RVS for a long period of real time.

Flush wagon looking hella awful

yup I agree, would be v surprised if not at least one scum in Ydrasse/Dragon/Skitter

Agree strongly

You went from agreeing with skitter and DE being town to strongly agreeing there is scum amongst the 3 on the flush wagon. I like the trajectory of your read but I’d love a bit more explanation on how you got there.

[KayJayQueue]

Can I have one of the guns? I wanna be a vigilante

Enough with these soft claims

[KayJayQueue]

I vibe with that read.

[KayJayQueue]

I love salmonella. In fact I'm handling raw chicken as we speak

RIP

[KayJayQueue]

Can I have one of the guns? I wanna be a vigilante

have mine, I'm skilled in all kinds of things. I'm something of a Jack-Of-All-Trades myself.

[KayJayQueue]

Hmm

[KayJayQueue]

I’m impressed Dann. I’m loving it lol

[KayJayQueue]

I’m not used to watching this from the sidelines lol

[KayJayQueue]

I’m not used to watching this from the sidelines lol

we duel at midnight

Bring it

[KayJayQueue]

I’m not used to watching this from the sidelines lol

we duel at midnight

Bring it

got any spare guns lying around? I searched home and all I can find is a syringe

Y’all are making me go insane