Open 909 | A Newbie Game | Game Over

[ketchup777]

hi i'm town

[ketchup777]

i claim mason with dannflor

[ketchup777]

I am also town! High five ketchup!

ow that's my plastered hand, can we try that again with my left?

[ketchup777]

VOTE: zachheus

zach probably thought we would eliminate alphabetically and trying to hide being scum under starting with z

[ketchup777]

I am also town! High five ketchup!

ow that's my plastered hand, can we try that again with my left?

\o

\o

let's go find dem scummies

[ketchup777]

of course

have you noticed already the first step i have taken this will be on the quiz

rolling mafia?

[ketchup777]

I will be the inverse, do everything I say and do.

Don’t listen to what ketchup has to say about this

ketchup has much to say about this

[ketchup777]

do everything I say and do.

Done.

Next?

Now everybody say your alignment publicly, I’ll go first.

I’m mafia

oops!

[ketchup777]

do everything I say and do.

Done.

Next?

Now everybody say your alignment publicly, I’ll go first.

I’m mafia

Can't believe you're throwing like this, as your scummate I feel horrible. Blacklisted

rule 8 already broken the world has ended

[ketchup777]

VOTE: KayJayQueue

Bussing this early eh?

Bus? Where?

ITS COMING GET OUT THE ROAD

[ketchup777]

Oh shit I didn’t even know that was a rule, whoops quick Flush claim masons with me!!!!

Yes I claim masons... WITH KETCHUP

dum dum dummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[ketchup777]

Dann already lagging!

he got the pagetop tho what a champ

[ketchup777]

not saying anyone can pocket me but if you have 3 easter eggs and a pack of smarties then...

[ketchup777]

If I promise to not tunnel can you jump in my pocket Ketchup?

i won't promise but maybe (:

[ketchup777]

69

[ketchup777]

*runs away screaming*

[ketchup777]

I take that back, vote ketchup

Fuck!
VOTE: Ketchup

KJ i literally just saved you from a bus what the heck ):

[ketchup777]

VOTE: Jackson take out the leader!

[ketchup777]

o:

[ketchup777]

I take that back, vote ketchup

Fuck!
VOTE: Ketchup

KJ i literally just saved you from a bus what the heck ):

I was talking to Kay while the game was still in signups about how fun you are, sorry but guess we’re not playing with you that much this game smh

it's ok i'm not at E-1 yet!

[ketchup777]

origin of symmetry is my favorite album ever

“Finding God Before God Finds Me” is mine

Lets scumhunt by finding who has the objective worst taste in music and bully them out of the game

I am so screwed

[ketchup777]

any supporters for toad sings last christmas?

[ketchup777]

Ketchup let’s form a bad music taste alliance

UNVOTE:

origin of symmetry is my favorite album ever

“Finding God Before God Finds Me” is mine

Lets scumhunt by finding who has the objective worst taste in music and bully them out of the game

rip i'm getting faded

me you HA let's go

[ketchup777]

halfasleep you’re invited too

Get out of my brain holyyy

Actually no, stay in there I like it

kinky

[ketchup777]

alright how do we wanna do this. i vote kay, kay votes ketchup, ketchup votes me?

works for me
VOTE: halfasleep

[ketchup777]

i have no idea what we're achieving btw lmao

[ketchup777]

i have no idea what we're achieving btw lmao

A new record for fluff in the first hour? 120 posts is pretty darn dense

you're welcome?

[ketchup777]

Dann killing it with these pagetops!

killng? what's that word doing in the lexicon of an innocent townie like you

[ketchup777]

Can we just vote random people for the rest of the game and have perpetual RVS, this shit is fun

works for me

[ketchup777]

quick hour 1 is closing in! can we get to 150

[ketchup777]

Play the game?

Okay scum

that's what I thought! DE is scared of the RvS. A preliminary inspection allows us to discover why, of course it's a hidden acronym:
R ahhhhhhhh! Dragon is
V ery much going to get voted out as
S cum

[ketchup777]

VOTE: DargonEater70

wait I literally just realised he's not a dragon but actually a dragon eater what the actual fuck

[ketchup777]

i'm too lat e but i would've gone 7 ):

[ketchup777]

guys I have an announcement to make, I have caught the scumteam

liar 1:

I lied.

Death of Peace of Mind is the best album. Kay can you guess what the band is?

liar 2:

Okay I have an idea

Let's meme until the end of page 7 and then play the game or something.

I won't be part of it though becayse I'm either going to sleep or typing up some wallpost on another forum and then going to sleep.

did DE go to sleep? read on!

Okay why the hell am I second to last with post counts, that's not supposed to happen usually I'm second from the top.

Pedit: you caught me virgo, now. I have to OMGUS.

VOTE: JakesonLeo

Pedit again: guys stop posting for a moment I'm trying to post here

Pedit 3: yup

Pedit 4: uh uh

Pedit 5: STOP ITTTTTT!!!12!!1!1

NOPE

Jackson+DE wrap it up

[ketchup777]

I technically told you the truth, that I’m mafia so clearly I’m town

once a liar always a liar

[ketchup777]

i claim mason with dannflor

Yeah you’re right. Once a liar, always a liar. Right?

VOTE: Ketchup

nooooooooooooooo

[ketchup777]

I caught you lackin ketchup. How does it feel?

it feels bad

[ketchup777]

VOTE: Ketchup777

[ketchup777]

I’m getting everyone to self vote, bow down to me

if you get everyone to selfvote at once you can pocket me

current selfvotes: 2

[ketchup777]

I feel bad saying this because they’re new but not a super fan of zachs posts. I’ll let them cook though and come back to this after the game advances somewhat as it could just be nerves and not knowing what to do (as either alignment)

OMG I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT BUT THEN DECIDED TO HOLD IT BACK FOR A BIT OMG OMG ACTUALLY IN SYNC

[ketchup777]

I feel bad saying this because they’re new but not a super fan of zachs posts. I’ll let them cook though and come back to this after the game advances somewhat as it could just be nerves and not knowing what to do (as either alignment)

OMG I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT BUT THEN DECIDED TO HOLD IT BACK FOR A BIT OMG OMG ACTUALLY IN SYNC

Get in my pocket already goddamn!

but you're voting me is this gonna be like enemies to lovers or

[ketchup777]

ooh 1000 kj posts quick screenshot it

[ketchup777]

ooh 1000 kj posts quick screenshot it

omg

you idiot(;

[ketchup777]

AAHIHAVEA300WORDGERMANESSAYDUEINTOMORROWANDITS10:40PM

[ketchup777]

town: straightflush, KJQ, halfasleep
?: jackson, purplemango
scum: zach, ydrasse, DE, purple mango

[ketchup777]

wait i did purple twice who did i forget

[ketchup777]

wait i did purple twice who did i forget

oh im town oops

[ketchup777]

Why doesn’t anyone have a read on me lol I’m so overwhelmingly townie

i suck at reading youuuuu

[ketchup777]

Why doesn’t anyone have a read on me lol I’m so overwhelmingly townie

I have a whole novel on you

Read it to me in private

Stop mason claiming with me damn it

ahhhhh i thought id actually spotted a crumb for once

[ketchup777]

although i am the mason ofc

[ketchup777]

i gotta hope dann was drunk and accidently sent town masonizer instead of town mason

[ketchup777]

i am an odd-night mason even-night mason mason enabler JOAT (mason,mason,mason)

[ketchup777]

i am an odd-night mason even-night mason mason enabler JOAT (mason,mason,mason)

That’s why I only get to talk to you privately half the time?! It’s all making sense

I think so, it took me a while to understand. so much for this being a newbie setup smh

[ketchup777]

Anyway I claim vanilla wolf. I’m a 3P who gets converted to whichever faction sends me pictures of their pets first.

Yeah that’s right this is a bastard game

Spoiler:

awwww

[ketchup777]

So cute!

I know I am.. oh you meant foo foo? (Yes that’s her name)

who named her

[ketchup777]

i am here to provide a perfect example of what not to do in a mafia game

VOTE: Ydrasse

might be scum anticipating failure

[ketchup777]

So cute!

I know I am.. oh you meant foo foo? (Yes that’s her name)

who named her

My mum did lol, I can’t have any pets at my house so she’s at hers and wanted to name her.

ok ill forgive you

i need to actually do this piece of HW see you in a bit

[ketchup777]

VOTE: zachheus

zach probably thought we would eliminate alphabetically and trying to hide being scum under starting with z

actually yeah Ydrasse probably also saw the alphabet strat coming but thought z would be too blatant so went with a subtle Y

[ketchup777]

i am here to provide a perfect example of what not to do in a mafia game

VOTE: Ydrasse

might be scum anticipating failure

VOTE: ketchup777
Do you really think that’s a realistic thing to think in this group, this sounds like scum trying to wagon off a poor townie

idk

i feel like that's E-2 btw incase anyone tries to stir me into being mislimmed

bye for now!

[ketchup777]

My logic was so strong, everyone went speechless

*poof*

[ketchup777]

Player List

1. KayJayQueue
   
   
2. halfasleep
   
   
3. ketchup777
   
   
4. Ydrasse
   
   
5. zachheus
   
   
6. JacksonVirgo
   
   
7. DragonEater70
   
   
8. Purplemango
   
   
9. StraightFlush

bold = confirmed, asterisk = prod, strike = replaced

hmm let's analyse 'Player List'. Where some people might think the gap between 'Player' and 'List' is only a space, I think it shows a kind of blackness, an obscure patch of darkness that could hint at a cruel scum. and where does the space occur? 7 characters in. player 7 is DE70, who also has a 7 in their username. confscum?

VOTE: DE70

help i'm locked in RvS mode

[ketchup777]

Player List

1. KayJayQueue
   
   
2. halfasleep
   
   
3. ketchup777
   
   
4. Ydrasse
   
   
5. zachheus
   
   
6. JacksonVirgo
   
   
7. DragonEater70
   
   
8. Purplemango
   
   
9. StraightFlush

bold = confirmed, asterisk = prod, strike = replaced

hmm let's analyse 'Player List'. Where some people might think the gap between 'Player' and 'List' is only a space, I think it shows a kind of blackness, an obscure patch of darkness that could hint at a cruel scum. and where does the space occur? 7 characters in. player 7 is DE70, who also has a 7 in their username. confscum?

VOTE: DE70

help i'm locked in RvS mode

Nice try scum!!! You know who else had a 7? YOU

THREE OF THEM

GET FUCKING ROASTED, SCUM!!!

busted again!

[ketchup777]

I feel bad saying this because they’re new but not a super fan of zachs posts. I’ll let them cook though and come back to this after the game advances somewhat as it could just be nerves and not knowing what to do (as either alignment)

OMG I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT BUT THEN DECIDED TO HOLD IT BACK FOR A BIT OMG OMG ACTUALLY IN SYNC

I get that because my posts have been awkward forced and stilted af lol I just don't know how to sillypost with completely new people. I wish I had something to cook but the fridge is empty because I haven't been able to make sense of anything that has been said <3

yeah I felt like this in my first game I understand (:

[ketchup777]

Is it even ketchup?? Or is it blood!!!! You murderous mafia!!!

erm my manager did say they were trying some new recipe but as far as I know it should still be 105% tomatoes with no blood

[ketchup777]

VOTE: ketchup777

more like tomato sus

ohh was this a sick pun on tomato sauce I only just got that

[ketchup777]

I can vibe with that tbh, selfvoting during RVS can be a sign of scum trying to avoid making enemies by accident.

VOTE: halfasleep

HA also voted for 3 people before voting herself tho

[ketchup777]

help i'm locked in RvS mode

Gonna ignore the rest of your post. What do you think about my TR of you? What do you feel about putting a serious vote on Jackson / who else would you consider putting a serious vote on?

help i'm locked in RvS mode

Gonna ignore the rest of your post. What do you think about my TR of you? What do you feel about putting a serious vote on Jackson / who else would you consider putting a serious vote on?

townreading me is always wiseeeee
why would I put a serious vote on Jackson when he’s not in my scumleans rn?

I could vote you or Ydrasse or Flush or Zach

[ketchup777]

I'm staunchly oposed to RVS longer than a few pages. The fact we're still in RVS on page 12 is really meh.

More optimistically, we've only been on RVS for 8 hours! We're just getting it all out of our system super quickly

more nervous sweating

I townread all of this nervous sweating, feel like newmaf would be scared of saying that. don’t start perspiring now everyone though please

[ketchup777]

help i'm locked in RvS mode

Gonna ignore the rest of your post. What do you think about my TR of you? What do you feel about putting a serious vote on Jackson / who else would you consider putting a serious vote on?

help i'm locked in RvS mode

Gonna ignore the rest of your post. What do you think about my TR of you? What do you feel about putting a serious vote on Jackson / who else would you consider putting a serious vote on?

townreading me is always wiseeeee
why would I put a serious vote on Jackson when he’s not in my scumleans rn?

I could vote you or Ydrasse or Flush or Zach

Wait so you are saying I am wise. Can you sheep a wise person and vote half asleep w me?

Also feel free to explain your scum leans assuming they're not just pure gut.

I’m not sheeping you you feel scummy

my scumreads are mostly just on tone rn, I’ll explain some when I see fit

[ketchup777]

I want a ketchup flush dragon towncore right now

These are super weak reads atm but like I'll take what I can get, need to get the game out of rvs hell

much as I’d love you here you’re not making it to my towncore

[ketchup777]

Oh yay does that mean you agree with my town core?

you’re desperate to be seen in the towncore eh?

[ketchup777]

Ha

Btw JV, I abbreviated halfasleep's name exactly once, the other times it was supposed to be fake laughing.

Anyway StraightFlush help me build a semi-serious wagon which as it builds up will generate alignment indicative content.

Not unreasonable. VOTE: Ydrasse

I find it interesting how narrow she chose to make the scope of her involvement in RVS.

how does interesting equate to being a vote worthy behavior in this instance

Hi Ydra I don't think I've ever read you successfully and I'm interested in starting to read you successfully. Any tips and tricks?

Alternatively if that's boring, here's a different question: if you had to give each player in this game a warrior cat name what would you name each one?

you say you want to get out of meaningless fluff yet then put it back in with warrior cat names (not that I’m opposed to having fun…). what gives?

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HA also voted for 3 people before voting herself tho

Not sure how relevant this is but I did want to point out she self voted twice during the RVS period, once at the start and then again later.

My only solid read last night after reflecting on the thread was a townread on DE70 for trying to push out of RVS. I can get behind a halfasleep wagon but I just woke up and I'm not sure where the votes are at and don't want to put her in range of a hammer before she returns to give us content to work with.

I disagree on DE70. Feels he’s trying to slow the game down as we gather momentum

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I didn't really put my mind to it
He is more leaning to town in my mind right now

okay. because there’s two interpretations to you saying that
one is like the reassuring “im sure you’re town” and thre other is the firm “im sure you’re town” and one of these is clearly more worrisome than the other

why is straight a townlean for you?

Ydrasse towny

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Oh yay does that mean you agree with my town core?

you’re desperate to be seen in the towncore eh?

No? I just want to have friends

aw I’m sowwy we can be friends

[ketchup777]

You’re on like E-3 I think

[ketchup777]

HA also voted for 3 people before voting herself tho

Not sure how relevant this is but I did want to point out she self voted twice during the RVS period, once at the start and then again later.

My only solid read last night after reflecting on the thread was a townread on DE70 for trying to push out of RVS. I can get behind a halfasleep wagon but I just woke up and I'm not sure where the votes are at and don't want to put her in range of a hammer before she returns to give us content to work with.

I disagree on DE70. Feels he’s trying to slow the game down as we gather momentum

Can you elaborate on how he's slowing the game down? Not that I don't believe you, I just don't have a frame of reference to help me judge the pace of the game. I did kind of feel like KJQ was resisting going deeper into things.

Okay I have an idea

Let's meme until the end of page 7 and then play the game or something.

I won't be part of it though becayse I'm either going to sleep or typing up some wallpost on another forum and then going to sleep.

Dragon kinda subtly telling us to stop posting anything by page 8. imo rapid RVS is better than stagnation

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im saying there was no need to rush out of RvS, content is content. You can say you were trying to get us to play the game all you like but at the end of the day is telling people to stop what they’re doing really going to progress the game?

[ketchup777]

I do agree by now RVS is probably bygone, however when you were pushing for it it was not

[ketchup777]

sure soz I wasn’t really intending to go this hard on you

[ketchup777]

yes yes the children are voting me without explanation as the texts demand

we are all children at heart

It’s just one vote

make that two!
VOTE: Ydrasse

[ketchup777]

VOTE: KayJayQueue

why

[ketchup777]

omg 69 and 420 hype

[ketchup777]

Uh

So you guys are seriously going to try to read into a freaking comment about why I dislike pages of fluff

Okay yeah I think I should just take a 24 hour break from this thread

anything is fair game for analysis, no?

[ketchup777]

It was that obvious eh

Yeah, you’re probably going to need to be a bit more subtle to get a decent reaction from my girlfriend, or anyone really.

KJQ is your GF? or are you just saying that figuratively

[ketchup777]

It was that obvious eh

Yeah, you’re probably going to need to be a bit more subtle to get a decent reaction from my girlfriend, or anyone really.

KJQ is your GF? or are you just saying that figuratively

She sure is

plot twistttt

[ketchup777]

VOTE: Dragon

[ketchup777]

gogogo

[ketchup777]

We both said it was NAI…

I know, but the conclusion wasn't my problem as much as three different people (you, JV, ketchup) twisting random stuff I said to mean something different than what I meant. It was very annoying.

the power of the true towncore working its magic

[ketchup777]

I did have my break though so now I feel pretty meh about it. Anyway 3 people are voting me and their cases kinda suck and also nobody really engaged with my case on halfalseep except Purple who said they're not sure either way so it would be nice if someone engaged with me.

hey i'm happy to engage but won't take offense if you want someone else
hope you feel better!

[ketchup777]

i'll be back in half an hour tho

[ketchup777]

Yeah I do.

Okay let me engage with you about your read of me.

I still think it's wild to read "let's start playing the game seriously after page 7" as "let's stop posting after page 7". Additionally I don't think wanting people to post less is even close to scum-indicative. Scum want chaos and confusion while town want a readable thread that they can, you know, READ and use to find scum. A lot of fluff/spam makes it HARDER to read.

Do you disagree with this? If yes please explain why and if not please explain why you're voting me.

true I have felt outfluffed in my first game, but it came from townies (Gypyx and Jackson) while scum were more nudging the votes in the background. so while intuitivitely what you say makes sense, based on my small sample size of 1 (lol) I have not seen that happen yet. anyway, a hard to follow thread is also more work for scum to read all of it and fake reads, right? also if people have less to analyse, that's good for the scum.

I admit I changed what you said a little bit, but equally it just felt weird to ask us to play the game seriously when it had been like an hour.

[ketchup777]

I just realized the two people I’m “appreciating” are voting me what a me thing to do damn lol

don't worry i won't vote youuuuuu

[ketchup777]

Glad KJQ brings up the sleepslot. I’ve never been in a game with non-prelynch subs before, do you guys tend to reset your reads on a slot if someone new fills it?

I don’t reset my reads. I give the rep-in a chance to catch up and comment on the game state. If that changes my read, I shift accordingly but I don’t clean slate them.

Note to self: never sign up as a sub

Nooo don’t say that. I suck at this game, don’t listen to me lol

i'm sure you don't suckkkk

[ketchup777]

i'm sure you don't suckkkk

4 Ks seems excessive. I can just regular suck, thank you very much!

i had to avoid 3 for my safety

[ketchup777]

500!

[ketchup777]

500!

I think you just wait around for these things lol

you'd think so but honestly i just keep getting lucky

[ketchup777]

500!

I think you just wait around for these things lol

you'd think so but honestly i just keep getting lucky

Lucky number 777

((((((((:
dont think ive managed to bloop 777 yet so hopefully this game is the one

[ketchup777]

also because it’s relevant now i don’t know if dragon was explicitly appealing to me or not in this game by backing me up and trying to engage with me but it felt a tinge strange. i’ve been letting things play out before saying anything because i am prone to doubting people on stuff like this

i got this feeling as well, thinking you might be paired, but your pointing it out dismantles that idea

[ketchup777]

I vote to make Kay the wagon target

Ultimate betrayal lol

frrrrr, i vote not kay

[ketchup777]

Having just verified the meaning of the term threadspew (which basically means a situation where if everyone has a town read on someone that means they're probably town), I feel semi confident in declaring that ketchup is threadspewed as town. Not that it helps simce he was already obvtown, but like I'm now going to treat him as a third mason.

*calling 999 during night 1*

operator: which service do you require?
me: a docto-
me:
operator: you good?
Dannflor: Ketchup777 died in the night! He was a *REDACTED*

[ketchup777]

Once upon a time, Dragon said we need to get out of RVS.

*a wagon starts on him*

“No not like that!”

The end.

jk jk, who is the best option then? Sleepy-slot?

lmaoo

[ketchup777]

ketchup, a beacon of towniness in a sea of nullness, talk to me.

If I were confirmed town from your POV who would you vote instead?

kinda lame but zach ig

[ketchup777]

I feel bad saying this because they’re new but not a super fan of zachs posts. I’ll let them cook though and come back to this after the game advances somewhat as it could just be nerves and not knowing what to do (as either alignment)

What didn'f you like abt them?

They were incredibly withdrawn with their posting, he posted in a way that felt like he needed to say something but couldn’t sink his teeth into it at all. Instinctively this read as scummy but I also knew there was a high chance it was NAI so wanted to wait it out, which I did

Probably worth noting that this is literally zach's first game on the whole site.

and to roll scum! devastating

[ketchup777]

I feel bad saying this because they’re new but not a super fan of zachs posts. I’ll let them cook though and come back to this after the game advances somewhat as it could just be nerves and not knowing what to do (as either alignment)

What didn'f you like abt them?

They were incredibly withdrawn with their posting, he posted in a way that felt like he needed to say something but couldn’t sink his teeth into it at all. Instinctively this read as scummy but I also knew there was a high chance it was NAI so wanted to wait it out, which I did

Probably worth noting that this is literally zach's first game on the whole site.

NAI it is then

did you only just realise it was Zach's first game?

[ketchup777]

I’ll post a VC here soonish

dannflor more like dannsplendour (help nothing rhymes)

[ketchup777]

I feel bad saying this because they’re new but not a super fan of zachs posts. I’ll let them cook though and come back to this after the game advances somewhat as it could just be nerves and not knowing what to do (as either alignment)

What didn'f you like abt them?

They were incredibly withdrawn with their posting, he posted in a way that felt like he needed to say something but couldn’t sink his teeth into it at all. Instinctively this read as scummy but I also knew there was a high chance it was NAI so wanted to wait it out, which I did

Probably worth noting that this is literally zach's first game on the whole site.

NAI it is then

did you only just realise it was Zach's first game?

Honestly, yeah. My bad.

that was a quick reply which is promising
ok

[ketchup777]

I’ll post a VC here soonish

dannflor more like dannsplendour (help nothing rhymes)

Dannbore. Cmon it was right in front of you

heyy i was going for positivity

@mod are you ok to go by dannthedinosaur?

[ketchup777]

I feel bad saying this because they’re new but not a super fan of zachs posts. I’ll let them cook though and come back to this after the game advances somewhat as it could just be nerves and not knowing what to do (as either alignment)

Hate to point this out but most if us are new lol

not definitive proof KJQ knew Zach was new so she probably telling the truth, would be a weird thing to lie about

[ketchup777]

I’ll post a VC here soonish

dannflor more like dannsplendour (help nothing rhymes)

Dannbore. Cmon it was right in front of you

heyy i was going for positivity

@mod are you ok to go by dannthedinosaur?

Dannosaur*

oooooh yea

[ketchup777]

I’ll post a VC here soonish

Smh dann is incredibly scummy it’s always delayed responses, is he scared to let loose in the moment? Is he scared of slipping up?

yeah he feels a lot different from the stream of consciousness style of posts from mini normal 2325. he had a good opening but then kinda dropped off and seems to be relying on us townreading based on providing VCs with no actual analysis? weird, could be openwolfing. not sure

[ketchup777]

I knew 5 of us were new players. I didn’t know the extent of newness!

maybe it's just me that looks at everyones postcount when I post (;

[ketchup777]

I’ll post a VC here soonish

Smh dann is incredibly scummy it’s always delayed responses, is he scared to let loose in the moment? Is he scared of slipping up?

yeah he feels a lot different from the stream of consciousness style of posts from mini normal 2325. he had a good opening but then kinda dropped off and seems to be relying on us townreading based on providing VCs with no actual analysis? weird, could be openwolfing. not sure

It’s entirely based on iioa. Information instead of analysis. You’re right, he isn’t analysing the votes he is just telling us information we already know! How could this be any more obvious?

and he hasn't voted anyone yet, bet hedging? so far the most we've got out of him beyond page 1 and VC data is a few 'boop's and a 'hm'. idk how to analyse this really. help?

[ketchup777]

I knew 5 of us were new players. I didn’t know the extent of newness!

maybe it's just me that looks at everyones postcount when I post (;

I’m on my phone so it doesn’t show post count like I (believe) it does on web. That’s why I didn’t know I was close to 1000 posts lol

ahh, I'm with you. you go free KJQ

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If nobody jumps on the half a skitter wagon, I may need to pretend I have a scumread on somebody else and start a new wagon. I'm giving it 12 hours tops before I change my vote I guess.

you a sucker for new content or were you never committed to begin with?

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Guys, this fluff is going to drive dragon insane. Be nice! Get back to the game…unless….what are you hiding?!?

jackson and I are masons but dann accidentally locked the mason thread so we've had to move it here

[ketchup777]

skitter and i have the same eyes

are you high

[ketchup777]

Jackson stop.

Your commenting on my posts has 0 value. If you think I'm scum vote me. I don't think you think I'm scum though.

bit defensive tbh

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woah dann can delete posts?
go get your pagetop

[ketchup777]

Spoiler:

I feel bad saying this because they’re new but not a super fan of zachs posts. I’ll let them cook though and come back to this after the game advances somewhat as it could just be nerves and not knowing what to do (as either alignment)

What didn'f you like abt them?

They were incredibly withdrawn with their posting, he posted in a way that felt like he needed to say something but couldn’t sink his teeth into it at all. Instinctively this read as scummy but I also knew there was a high chance it was NAI so wanted to wait it out, which I did

Spoiler:

ketchup, a beacon of towniness in a sea of nullness, talk to me.

If I were confirmed town from your POV who would you vote instead?

kinda lame but zach ig

Zachs townie though

oh? what changed

[ketchup777]

I feel bad saying this because they’re new but not a super fan of zachs posts. I’ll let them cook though and come back to this after the game advances somewhat as it could just be nerves and not knowing what to do (as either alignment)

OMG I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT BUT THEN DECIDED TO HOLD IT BACK FOR A BIT OMG OMG ACTUALLY IN SYNC

I get that because my posts have been awkward forced and stilted af lol I just don't know how to sillypost with completely new people. I wish I had something to cook but the fridge is empty because I haven't been able to make sense of anything that has been said <3

I can understand that, the game should be more structured soon enough. For what it’s worth, I like this response a lot

I thought I spoke about this more than I did

oh yeah that reply escaped my mind

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Ketchup how does it feel to be the towniest town?

it's nice, but i'm scared of getting nightkilled ):
or am i
maybe i hacked the setup so i'm a 3-shot fruit festival

[ketchup777]

i don't agree with any of your bottom 3 but ok

[ketchup777]

i don't agree with any of your bottom 3 but ok

Ok, how are you reading them?

Kay top town, Jackson+Flush townleans

[ketchup777]

VOTE: No elimination

if I do this with no context who will hop on

[ketchup777]

VOTE: DragonEater70

Finally, a dragon.

[ketchup777]

VOTE: DragonEater70

Finally, a dragon.

M8 you were already voting me

679

[ketchup777]

i don't agree with any of your bottom 3 but ok

it kinda feels to me like you have arbitrarily decided to scumread certain people and townread others and that you have dug up your heels into the ground with regards to your reads and are not willing to reconsider. Respectfully, I'd advise that if you want to become a better player, you should consider reconsidering.

I have committed myself to some early tonal reads, but there hasn’t been much activity yet to make reconsidering make sense. If you town post I’ll pick up on it

[ketchup777]

i don't agree with any of your bottom 3 but ok

Ok, how are you reading them?

Kay top town, Jackson+Flush townleans

Can you talk a little more abt these, particularly jackson?

Also I didn't realize you were voting Dragon, I think he's town - can you talk abt why yoy're voting him?

I’ve played with Jackson in both of the games I’ve played (mini normal 2325 and alianna’s questionable almost normal game) and he feels similar (he was town both of the last two times). Maybe he’s been less confrontational but I’m not complaining

Dragon’s posts feels like he’s posting to fit his townmeta rather than posting naturally

Flush I haven’t got much yet but he’s already made some unique analytical points

[ketchup777]

VOTE: No elimination

if I do this with no context who will hop on

Hell nahhh

fair enough

[ketchup777]

VOTE: DragonEater70

Finally, a dragon.

M8 you were already voting me

679

LMFAO it was like two posts before

I get it it’s hard to keep up with a scum topic and a main topic at the same time ):

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Ketchup is also better than me in a lot of ways at this game so I think you’re discounting him pretty substantially

aww, you’re really good tho <3

[ketchup777]

Less confrontational isn’t AI for me. I try and control the whole game as a wolf, I can find examples if anybody needs it

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Apart from one game I remember where I was hella demotivated, these are my last two notable scum games (unless I’m forgetting one). I took control as much as I could in both.

cool thanks I’ll pretend I’ll read them

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wow! that gambit that you did was amazing! what a fine scum player you are! After a thorough analysis I feel enlightened on my meta read. loved the way you outdid those poor townies!

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Ketchup is also better than me in a lot of ways at this game so I think you’re discounting him pretty substantially

aww, you’re really good tho <3

Yeah, I know I am but so are you

aww isn’t this just bubbles of positivity
hopefully one day we can be scum together (:

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that post was not for the benefit of getting you to townread me

bluntly i don’t think you are willing to at this moment or maybe not in this game at all and at a certain point i shrug. can’t win em all

you can win em all, watch me

[ketchup777]

Don't like jackson's back-and-forth with dragon, at all, and their rvs felt somewhat forced to me

Like I agree with this I'm just not sure if it makes them scum but it also doesn't make them town.

hedge

[ketchup777]

VOTE: Jackson

Finally, a wagon.

Want a cookie?

Yes I would like a cookie! Can I have a chocolate chip cookie please?

I actually had one like an hour ago, come check my toilet tomorrow morning

[ketchup777]

why did I say that

[ketchup777]

I regret everythinf

[ketchup777]

Dragon’s posts feels like he’s posting to fit his townmeta rather than posting naturally

Explain this thought?

Spoiler:

I have committed myself to some early tonal reads, but there hasn’t been much activity yet to make reconsidering make sense. If you town post I’ll pick up on it

hmmmm

Thanks for the headsup I am now going to intentionally imitate how scum!me posts to get townread and then you are going to think that it's me townposting. (and when I say "now" I actually mean "when I am less demotivated", probably tomorrow)

The whole towncore thing I saw you doing somewhere else yet putting yourself into it when no one was townreading you felt like you were trying to shape the towncore rather than build it for the town‘s benefit

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Dragon I want to believe you, I really do but your votes have had no sincerity behind them whatsoever. I’m very confused by your gameplay so far.

This is exactly what I’m saying, he keeps trying to gather people “for a cause” and just has no weight behind it, just none

yeah this. it’s like if you took putin, fed him some steroids and put him through a washing machine. then he comes out and expects everyone to follow him as a mighty leader just cos he survived being in a washing machine whilst on steroids

[ketchup777]

i’m weak and exhausted from contributing now

we‘re done for

[ketchup777]

The whole towncore thing I saw you doing somewhere else yet putting yourself into it when no one was townreading you felt like you were trying to shape the towncore rather than build it for the town‘s benefit

...

Do you realize that as town I am going to automatically include myself in any towncore? What's the point of trying to create a towncore and exclude myself from it?

I want a ketchup flush dragon towncore right now

These are super weak reads atm but like I'll take what I can get, need to get the game out of rvs hell

'I want a ___towncore' feels more minority than like 'I think __ are town, who‘d be down for a __ towncore‘?

[ketchup777]

Flush wagon looking hella awful

yup I agree, would be v surprised if not at least one scum in Ydrasse/Dragon/Skitter

[ketchup777]

Searching for a replacement for DragonEater70.

sorry Dragon

[ketchup777]

Okay let me explain

I don't think skitter is town. I also don't think she's scum. I don't have a strong read either way (are you noticing a trend here????)

However I feel like not voting her and voting with her is useful for me in developing my reads. You could say I'm in self preservation mode and that won't even be incorrect, as I was literally at E-1 and I don't feel like getting limmed today when barely nothing has happened and I don't trust town to find scum tomorrow because I myself have 0 clue who scum are. But aside from being in self preservation mode I'm also in "I really want to do something other than vote people I don't feel strongly about" mode, and voting skitter is not gonna help with that while voting straightflush is.

since when did you have strong feelings about straightflush?

dragon does have 120 posts tho so maybe he is j town

[ketchup777]

So you now feel strongly about straightflush? When did that happen? Before or after the wagon on him started?

So you now feel strongly about straightflush? When did that happen? Before or after the wagon on him started?

After, as I read Ydra's case and agreed with it.

nvm KJ beat me to it, KJ town

[ketchup777]

Can we get a summary of what happened? I read it but not sure how much I understand

+ I can play now!

i pushed dragon and then others pushed dragon and then dragon kept voting people until everyone was like bro what and then dragon was like what and we were like you know what and he was like no i don't and we were like well we think you're scum and he was like well i'm not and we were like well what if you are and then he replaced out

[ketchup777]

Can we get a summary of what happened? I read it but not sure how much I understand

+ I can play now!

i pushed dragon and then others pushed dragon and then dragon kept voting people until everyone was like bro what and then dragon was like what and we were like you know what and he was like no i don't and we were like well we think you're scum and he was like well i'm not and we were like well what if you are and then he replaced out

Also there was some other stuff

yeah some other people got miniwagons but i wasn't paying much attention

[ketchup777]

I want to put StraightFlush to E-1 for picking up a soft claim on mason and then deciding to escalate it to public awareness without any prompt. That feels like a kiting technique to fish out actual masons. And it's my first actual read of the game because everything else before that post was straight-up junk.

think it's just newblunder, I did the same in my first game

[ketchup777]

try putting them to e-1 if you want, i feel it won't change much

[ketchup777]

Yes please remember this is a newbie game and the new players (for the sake of this game) are: straightflush, PurpleMango, zaccheus and me. It was also halfasleep before she repped out.

havent you played more games than me

[ketchup777]

try putting them to e-1 if you want, i feel it won't change much

comedy ensues

[ketchup777]

Yes please remember this is a newbie game and the new players (for the sake of this game) are: straightflush, PurpleMango, zaccheus and me. It was also halfasleep before she repped out.

havent you played more games than me

I have 2 finished games

oh ok snap

[ketchup777]

Oh ketchup do you count as a newbie too? You just seem more experienced lol

i hope so, dann invited me to pre-in on that basis

im not experienced i just had fun looking at the wiki and stuff (:

[ketchup777]

Yes please remember this is a newbie game and the new players (for the sake of this game) are: straightflush, PurpleMango, zaccheus and me. It was also halfasleep before she repped out.

havent you played more games than me

I have 2 finished games

oh ok snap

I just post too much. I never shut up (have you noticed)

its ok i do too, 800 post average over first 2 games lol

[ketchup777]

if i end up being mason, that's not to say ydrasse is my mason buddy.

mysterious post but i don't want to press it

[ketchup777]

nvm

[ketchup777]

errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm

[ketchup777]

I’m masons with hem

while funny this feels like it could be trying to bait a PR. I thought it was srs and I nearly revealed my slot (be that vanilla or power you choose) at this. bit sus

[ketchup777]

I am in fact trying to get the power roles to reveal themselves. I admit my guilt.

:-<

[ketchup777]

I’m masons with hem

while funny this feels like it could be trying to bait a PR. I thought it was srs and I nearly revealed my slot (be that vanilla or power you choose) at this. bit sus

also are you explicitly suspicious of one or both of me and hem because i didn’t start that interaction

you turned the joke into a bait so more sus of you

[ketchup777]

I am going to eat sushi

yum yum, don’t get salmonella

[ketchup777]

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pagetop

(:

[ketchup777]

I like Flush‘s 908


conftown: ketchup
supertown: KJQ
prettytown: Jackson, Flush
?: Zach, Ydrasse
somewhat scummy: skitter, purple mango
scummy: DE/HEM

[ketchup777]

(((:

*blushes* I saw what you saw and realised how pretty you truly were. I saw the true beauty of your mind!

[ketchup777]

I’m not used to watching this from the sidelines lol

we duel at midnight

[ketchup777]

I’m not used to watching this from the sidelines lol

we duel at midnight

Bring it

got any spare guns lying around? I searched home and all I can find is a syringe

[ketchup777]

I’m so subtle and awesome

[ketchup777]

VOTE: skitter30

rotate rotate

[ketchup777]

The mango has returned!

Drop some reads!

HEM (?) Probably town, mostly based on dragons gameplay, but them as town (HEM) make sense too

I don't really get the skitter thing, but agree to vote them
Will appreciate if someone who do scumread Skitter to explain that

Jackson more town then scum in my mind, so does kay
But in more of a "i wouldn't vote for you rn" way

Zach town, probsbly
It does seem like he's trying to advance the game, somehow
and give things when he has the opportunity for it

I have no idea about striaghtflush
I'll try to reread thing in a more serious way

reads on me or ydrasse?

[ketchup777]

purplemango's last post is really off, in that the reads feel like they have not been filtered through an uninformed perspective. there's a lack of confusion that is expected from noob town.

I agree that it’s off. A few points are weird and don’t quite match. I’m also confused why a couple would be left off especially when one is extremely vocal, especially when he added “I have no idea” about SF. Why not just comment on the rest?

based on what I saw in the second game I played it could subconsciously be trying to avoid having to form reads on maf partner (if Mango+Ydrasse team)

[ketchup777]

purplemango's last post is really off, in that the reads feel like they have not been filtered through an uninformed perspective. there's a lack of confusion that is expected from noob town.

I agree that it’s off. A few points are weird and don’t quite match. I’m also confused why a couple would be left off especially when one is extremely vocal, especially when he added “I have no idea” about SF. Why not just comment on the rest?

based on what I saw in the second game I played it could subconsciously be trying to avoid having to form reads on maf partner (if Mango+Ydrasse team)

See I thought that possibly but I also thought the read on skitter was weirder than leaving someone off.

I don't really get the skitter thing, but agree to vote them
Will appreciate if someone who do scumread Skitter to explain that

This feels like it could be coming from scum re: their partner. Wants to seem amenable to the wagon but states they don’t get it. But wants the read explained (possibly to give his partner extra info to combat the sus)

I dunno. Just my current feeling.

maybe maybe yeah (:

[ketchup777]

I actually might change onto purple for now, yet dragon really a scum suspect etoo. |(skitter kinda scummy by votes but I don’t have enough to go on yet). flushwagon still looks dodgy af
eh sure

VOTE: purple

[ketchup777]

sure

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im bored so imma make a 1v1 for every pairing of the other players and who I would vote atm if I were in ElO with them brb

[ketchup777]

im bored so imma make a 1v1 for every pairing of the other players and who I would vote atm if I were in ElO with them brb

unless someone thinks this is a terrible idea and gets into my profit before I’ve posted

hi jackson

[ketchup777]

pedit*

[ketchup777]

HEM, you specifically

weird she scumreads me, and then scumreads my scumread

I scumread dragon more than you so there’s that ig

[ketchup777]

We need to generate further discussion somehow. Things feel like they’ve stagnated with these two competing wagons in a standstill. Well a standstill before ketchup jumped off.

Pedit: of course yall start talking when I’m about to go crazy that no one is talking lol

get ready for the ultimate 28 1v1s showdown coming soon to a mafia thread near you

[ketchup777]

i am dragon

ik, I mean for your slot I am scumreading it more because of dragon than you, so whatever reads you are giving is not giving me pause to the ingrained scumread. maybe they should idk

[ketchup777]

yo I just thought imagine how cursed it would be if this was like whatsapp and you could see who was typing at any point

[ketchup777]

Imagine the strats

you could type for ages as scum and everyone would think you were creating an amazing post then suddenly you disappear and come back 5 mins later complaining that your phone died but you’d get towncred for nothing maybe perhaps

[ketchup777]

yo I just thought imagine how cursed it would be if this was like whatsapp and you could see who was typing at any point

That’s just Discord Mafia (my mafia community)

ō lol

i like it here tho (:

[ketchup777]

Imagine the strats

you could type for ages as scum and everyone would think you were creating an amazing post then suddenly you disappear and come back 5 mins later complaining that your phone died but you’d get towncred for nothing maybe perhaps

Anyone that is going to type a novel wall post isn’t the type of person that would let their phone die. In my experience lol

in my first game I was doing a great post on busride for 50 mins or so then I go to post it and I’ve lost signal at some point so I have to Relogin and then it vanished.

I’m more careful now ):

[ketchup777]

this game I’m trying having a notes PT so even less chance of a blunder

[ketchup777]

Imagine the strats

you could type for ages as scum and everyone would think you were creating an amazing post then suddenly you disappear and come back 5 mins later complaining that your phone died but you’d get towncred for nothing maybe perhaps

Anyone that is going to type a novel wall post isn’t the type of person that would let their phone die. In my experience lol

in my first game I was doing a great post on busride for 50 mins or so then I go to post it and I’ve lost signal at some point so I have to Relogin and then it vanished.

I’m more careful now ):

Type long posts in phone’s notes app/notepad! Thank me later lol

mmm last game I had a jumble of stuff in my notes app hehe

[ketchup777]

nope

[ketchup777]

something I said recently you wanna talk about or you been hiding this all game

[ketchup777]

this game I’m trying having a notes PT so even less chance of a blunder

This is against the rules to talk about, you’re probably getting modkilled

I’m not going to say anything else on it but I assure you if I’m town I checked it was ok to mention before saying that

[ketchup777]

I’m going to explain, spending time with someone important

ok! no rush

[ketchup777]

Yikes, I hope that doesn’t mess with the game too much.

I mean, I imagine I as scum would also have the capacity to check that that was ok to mention before posting. I saw that Drew got warned for it in our last game so would not have said that without checking whatever alignment I am. So it’s NAI dw

[ketchup777]

moving on

[ketchup777]

Yikes, I hope that doesn’t mess with the game too much.

I mean, I imagine I as scum would also have the capacity to check that that was ok to mention before posting. I saw that Drew got warned for it in our last game so would not have said that without checking whatever alignment I am. So it’s NAI dw

insert a comma after checking

[ketchup777]

Can we move on please?

see the awesome post above that

[ketchup777]

I’m going to explain, spending time with someone important

ok! no rush

Why are you voting purple

I don’t think skitter wagon is going to make it thru

[ketchup777]

I’m going to explain, spending time with someone important

ok! no rush

Why are you voting purple

I don’t think skitter wagon is going to make it thru

Why purple

I have 3 numbers written down for anti-purple I have no idea what these link to
992
994
1011

[ketchup777]

ok yeah those posts I’m basically just sheeting others thoughts