Open 128 - C9 OVER! before 762

[ryan2754]

Yeah, but I don't understand how you can't pass up the RVS. Despite the game size, it's still necessary to get people to start talking.

Vote: Zwet

because he was the last to confirm...

[ryan2754]

Stef you still have me in the non-voting pile, and as voting for Zwet, which is correct. Just something to look at.

[ryan2754]

GS, Clauswitz....hanging out?

[ryan2754]

No prod necessary Stef.


Yeah sekinj, what exactly was with your bandwagoning on Millar so quickly? I know we are still in the RVS, but your vote seemed slightly opportunistic. The problem is, there really is no sound logic on Millar right now, which makes it seem a lot like a pressure vote more or less. Either way, my vote is still on Zwet, and if Grave Scrabbler doesn't post, i'll wait to see what his replacement has to say after it occurs. Millar, personally, why mirror votes? That's always a bad strategy in mafia, no matter the game size. Why?

[ryan2754]

It's a psychological thing. When a player asks another player a question and includes his name in third person, it makes it seem that the original player is trying to make himself seem objective and unbiased, which would make him seem more pro-town, which is a scumtell.

This is the most coherent post I think Zwet has made in the two games I've played with him. I agree, does look slightly scummy. I don't really understand the pairings either.


I also don't like Looker's telling of Clause about his vote. Seems a little too "friendly" to me.


Emp, who are you talking about in post 99?

[ryan2754]

Sorry Zwet, it was left over from the random stage.

Unvote

[ryan2754]

Looker, telling Clause of the reasoning for your vote was scummy. I already said that I don't like what you have done with Clause. However his non-action and lurking are very anti-town, if you ask me.
In the game I played with Empking, he made votes like this before, and not really said much for reasoning. Thus, his playing style hasn't changed, and thus I don't see it as scummy.
This being said

Vote: Clausewitz

[ryan2754]

How so? What do you mean?

[ryan2754]

At least Looker is posting relevant game information...Clause...not so much. If he is continuing to Lurk, I'm going to vote for him.

[ryan2754]

But if a lurker is someone with no powers, they are being extremely anti=town and not helping at all. If they are not going to talk and help, they are helping the scum. And right now, I don't have a pure suspicion outside of Looker, and again, at least he is posting game content that, when manifested in the later rounds, will further implicate or erode his scumminess. Not helping at all needs to be addressed.

Yeah, but RL issues usually get mentioned somewhere if it comes along. Even people who have school, etc. are able at the least to throw a post out there saying 'Hey, schoolwork is kicking my ass, I'll post something sufficient tomorrow.'

[ryan2754]

All you are doing is looking for something...which might very well not be there.

Mafia often like to blow things out of pro-portion or have the town look in the completely wrong direction.

How often, that scum right page after page offering "Advice" to fellow town members.

Plz ryan...shush ur mouf

No, I'm not going to shush my mouf because that would be hypocritical. I'm not going to bow down and be quiet (and lurk) and succumb to the course that this game is taking.

[ryan2754]

picking up prod...ill have something useful later today...

[ryan2754]

These last few posts have been completely depressing. One word or one sentence posts asking about vote counts and who is more scummier. Can we at least get some logic behind votes? or suspicions?

[ryan2754]

Personally, I don't have much to go on - my reasoning for wanting to see other people's reasonings. Clause's anti-town behavior isn't helpful.

With regards to Emp, his playing style isn't much different from what I've seen in the past, and he was town in the game I played with him. Although I find his play fairly anti-town, I don't find him scummy based on meta.

I recently replaced in on a game, where Millar was scum. He played gutsy with a lot of audacity. It seems as though this may be his play style, but much of it resembles what I have seen, and he has acted fairly scummy, imo.

Sekinjs has not really done anything outrageous, is posting and seems to be actively scumhunting.

Zwet is playing his usual game, and has actually made many more coherent thoughts and posts than in the game I've played with him. His play is pro-town, in my opinion.

Lookers string of posts since he has replaced in is discouraging. I really don't know what to make of it, but there is something thaty just doesn't sit well with me. Personally I don't like his post 149. He seems to be a little too friendly in backing down, thus alleviating some of the pressure. Maybe it's just me, but this seems like something subtle that I found.


So I see Looker and Millar to be the scummiest (if I can even say that at this point in the game given the low level of significant posts).

[ryan2754]

Ryan I thin it is quite funny that you yourself have fallen into the proverbial scum forecast.

More often than not, a town player who does a play round up, does so using

ALL

players.

Scum often tend to high light three or four, often never mentioning their fellow scum at the same time.

How you came to a conclusion that, Millar (MYSELF) Zwet, Looker and Sekinjs are the top four I do not know.

Are you serious, I did round up all players, excluding myself. if you read the post, you'd see that.

[ryan2754]

Yeah but you put more effort into the others.....deliberately in the middle

Well let's see. The other two players haven't really said much...at all, so there is less to say about them. They are both clearly lurking. Outside of that, there's nothing else I can say. So of course I would put more effort into the people who are talking because we have more information.

[ryan2754]

Laying down a hammer for the game stalling? That's WORSE than hammering for lurking.

[ryan2754]

Personally, I think quick voting at this stage of LYLO is a terrible idea. If looker isn't mafia, since its three to lynch, the game should be over. If he is mafia, he's trying to get a bandwagon going. Either way, looks extremely scummy. We need to deduce more information,e specially considering, well, the posts in this game so far have been extremely lackluster. I wouldn't be surprised with a Looker/Zwet combo, the way they are playing.

[ryan2754]

What exactly is the twilight stage? All other games I've played just have night and day.

[ryan2754]

@ Sekinjs: I meant to make that reply in one of my other games, in which it was currently Twilight. I accidently posted in this one. I find that to be OMGUS, to be honest.


Anyways, this being said, Zwet, based on meta has played similarly when i played with him before, and he was town. But, given the circumstances of your night action, and my knowing my own role, Looker and Zwet is the only possible combination.


And well, Looker's current exchange makes him look pretty scummy just trying to get this game over with.

Vote: Zwet

Bing Bang Bong.

[ryan2754]

Sekinj, I was wondering why you were asking me about the twilight. I lost track of this game slightly.

You also asked me if I liked his quick vote, and I wanted to say HELL YEAH WE JUST WON, but I was waiting for you or someone else to vote. You ended up voting, Looker unvoted, and then well, you got him to revote, and that's when I made my post. Good fake claim though!!!!!!!

[ryan2754]

So true...