Mini 169 - Game Over

[LoudmouthLee]

Random Vote: Nanook

You might wanna change night to day, Mod

[LoudmouthLee]

Lurking?

I'm re-reading MMMM again to figure it out. That game is captivating me.

[LoudmouthLee]

FoS: Pere... Phoebus

Why? Because I love him

[LoudmouthLee]

Ménage à trois? Blame them!

Hmmm... either you're blaming the Counting Crows or you're citing another personal joke. I'll let you explain to the crowd

[LoudmouthLee]

So, in your own words, what am I?

A townie (and I have no idea if you have any abilities or not) looking for an easy lynch of a newbie. That's how you're being lazy.

That's also why I'm not voting for you; I really don't think you're scum. I do, however, find it amusing that the best you can do is hint at nebulous "something else"s and subliminal messages.

So, my recommendation to you is that you apply your

subtle

hinting tactics on someone else, who might actually be scum. If you want to pile people on me and force a role claim, however, I'm fine with that as well.

That's a mouthful coming from a guy who keeps his stats updated. You have NEVER been a townie before, eh?

[LoudmouthLee]

I'm going by my gut and by your strategy, we might as well pile votes on you.
Frankly, I'm inclined to call you lazy for being so smug and/or laid back about letting a bandwagon build up and subsequently role claim. Why don't you try and find scum if you're not it?

Because he might be scum...

Unvote: Nanook, Vote: Bug

[LoudmouthLee]

yes. and i know whos guilty. i wont reveal who. because the next person to counter claim me is surely mafia. if another person claims i will reveal my results, and if u dont believe me and decide to lynch me u will see that i am right and u will have both mafia or a serial killer. if i survive, i pray the doctor will save me.

You're making a few brash assumptions...

1) You're assuming your sanity is good.
2) You're assuming that there arent multiple cops.

I really think you should pay more attention to both of those. I have no reason to say you're not a cop, but I'm unsure if there are multiple cops, or if you sanity is perfect.

[LoudmouthLee]

yes. and i know whos guilty. i wont reveal who. because the next person to counter claim me is surely mafia. if another person claims i will reveal my results, and if u dont believe me and decide to lynch me u will see that i am right and u will have both mafia or a serial killer. if i survive, i pray the doctor will save me.

You're making a few brash assumptions...

1) You're assuming your sanity is good.
2) You're assuming that there arent multiple cops.

I really think you should pay more attention to both of those. I have no reason to say you're not a cop, but I'm unsure if there are multiple cops, or if you sanity is perfect.

I find it pretty amusing that you were the one to make this comment. Considering that Saphire random voted you in his first post, then he makes a statement that he has found a scum, but isn't going to say who? How many cops out there that get a guilty result on a player Night 1, don't vote for the target in their first post?

I think I will

Unvote: Fuldu

and

Vote: LoudMouthLee

His sanity could be off, but you jumped to that just a little too quickly if you ask me.

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Calm your horses....

I was just saying that it may not be a good idea to talk about this tsuff day one. ESPECIALLY after the cop says "if anyone else counterclaims, they are scum."

There's a reason I made my post. If you can't see it, it's not my fault. I won't say more.

[LoudmouthLee]

I would definately recommend unvoting now.

Look. I was trying to play my role CORRECTLY. Instead, you're giving the Mafia the upper hand.

I'm a cop. I cannot speak for Sapphire, besides the fact that her sanity may be off. I ALSO received a guilty result night one, but wanted to wait for night two in order to figure out my sanity. Why else would I say this?

You're making a few brash assumptions...

1) You're assuming your sanity is good.
2) You're assuming that there arent multiple cops.

I did, as I saud, received a guilty vote. And, Nanook, I didn't random vote that person right away. But be sure I'll find out tomorrow. (If you all decide to let me live)

[LoudmouthLee]

bah. I need to preview before i post.

Last line should read "received a guilty RESULT."

[LoudmouthLee]

I'll leave that up to the town. I really don't want to give the mafia any upper hand. If my sanity is off, I do NOT want a mis-lynch.

[LoudmouthLee]

I'll leave that up to the town. I really don't want to give the mafia any upper hand. If my sanity is off, I do NOT want a mis-lynch.

Don't want to give the mafia any upper hand? May we remind you that you are 3 votes from a lynch .. and what upperhand are you giving the mafia by telling the town a guilty result? I think if anything that would give us the upper hand if you truly are the cop.

3 votes is quite a bit. I'll wait to hear what the others say. You're looking more and more scummy, IMHO.

[LoudmouthLee]

Double Post

As I explained: If my sanity is off, I do NOT want a mis-lynch. Obviously, there are different sanaties in this mini.

[LoudmouthLee]

Well... I value Pepe's thoughts.. so here goes.

I received a guilty for DMI. However, there lies a problem here.

1) He hasn't posted yet.
2) I don't know my sanity.

[LoudmouthLee]

By the way... there HAS to be multiple sanaties, for I know my allignment.. and it's different from what Sapphire said.

[LoudmouthLee]

I thought I did this already....

Unvote: Bug, Vote: DMI

[LoudmouthLee]

I'm really, really sorry, people. I didn't post because I didn't get the whole Phoebus and imabug thing in the beginning. As soon as StrykkerVerde posted, I was gonna post, but my dad was felling mean and cut off my connection right before I posted. Yeah, I know. It's a bad excuse.

Claim: Actually, I was kinda hoping I would be forced to claim. My role would work best when it's out in the open.

I am the Cowardly Doctor. I can hide in someone's house at night. If they get targeted, I save them. If I'm targeted, they save me. If the person whose house I'm hiding in is mafia, I die.

My role has to be the most powerful in this game. It is a combo of doc/cop.

For Night One, I was thinking that if I don't die, then if I protect the same person all the time, there is barely any chance the town would lose. So I took the risk of dying. Needless to say, it paid off.

I targeted Pinky. I'm not dead. Pinky is innocent. I'm willing to protect either Pinky or StryppherVerde tonight.

LML is a liar. Either way, one of us is mafia. And my role is more powerful. Don't kill me.

Unvote, Vote LML

WHOA! Time out.

I have a few questions to raise... Please listen and allow ME to respond before you lynch.

1- My sanity may not be correct. I warned you of that at the beginning.
2- Not only that, this role may or may not be plausable. By allowing the DMI claim to go unquestioned MAY allow a dual mafia combo to go far.

I know my claim seems shaky right now.. I beg of you to do the following things.

-Realize that my "not claiming first" is the result of GOOD PLAY, not bad play. I know that "unknown sanity" problems lead to a lynch sometimes. I was NOT planning on sharing my "guilty" result.

-If we choose to believe the DMI claim, I *may* get an INNOCENT result tomorrow. Then what?

Even though an insane cop (or any non-sane cop) is basically useless, I'm still PRO TOWN. Choosing to lynch me will ULTIMATELY help the mafia achieve their means.

[LoudmouthLee]

Ugh. Don't lynch against the town. I wish I could explain more.. but there's nothing else. for me to say. (sigh)

[LoudmouthLee]

I'm at 4, 3 to lynch. Please read what I typed above and don't be quick to make a mistake. I get frustrated at townsfolk who don't read (or put two and two together)

[LoudmouthLee]

(raises eyebrow at Bug)

That sounds a bit suspicious. Kudos to Shadow for bringing it up....

[LoudmouthLee]

FoS: Bug

What makes you so positive that it has ANYTHING to do with her role? I mean, couldn't it be a pro-town power done for someone else?

Too much info ALWAYS scares me.

[LoudmouthLee]

Bigger FoS on Bug:

I'm a pro-town cop. Verde has me as guilty. I have DMI as guilty. According to your posts, you're giving us, the cops way too much. I don't even know if my results are good. Instead, you're defending someone else with a guilty result. Unless you two are masons, there's nothing you know about his affiliation.

[LoudmouthLee]

Look, all I'm saying is, in the current situation, there's absolutely no reason to vote Dmi instead of me. I can promise you, lynching me will clear him absolutely, while if you lynch him, there will still be some doubt about whether I've been telling the truth (though, it would be pretty smooth of me to guess about cowards, huh?). His ability is more powerful than mine.

And, Talitha, I want to know more about why you can't unvote. Did you know you wouldn't be able to unvote at the beginning of the day? If so, why did you waste your vote? And, if you didn't know, doesn't this mean someone targeted you with an ability during the day that, what, makes you unable to unvote? I don't exactly see how that can be construed as a "pro-town power", Lee, if that's what happened.

Just saying.. if you have a feeling that someone is scummy, you can force their vote... I have modded games that has pro-town players like that.

[LoudmouthLee]

I'm personally far too lazy, but can someone do a count of total posts by players. I believe that, although Warp's a major Lurker, DMI hasn't posted that much, even after he was semi-prodded.

[LoudmouthLee]

How about we lynch LML, then SapphireVerde will investigate me while bug and i hide in each other's houses. Unless you believe that this all one big conspiracy by SapphireVerde, bug, and me. But in that case, you probably already are a conspiracy nut. But I'd be flattered if someone actually thinks so.

Also, if LML is a cop, then we lynch Sapphire tomorrow and get a scum.

If LML is scum, then we get a bunch of innocents and this gives the ton an enormous advantage. Your pick.

Wow... if you're gonna post something like this, at least read the thread.

Your main argument is WRONG. I do NOT think that SapphireVerde is scum. I think Saf is a newbie who didn't quite understand how to play her role (as in, claiming cop day one).

I fought NOT to give your name, DMI (remember that post?) and my post was contingent on sanity. In this case, I know that Saph is insane in some way. I'm still unsure about myself, but the more you try to lynch a claimed cop, the more I feel strongly about my sanity.

Confirm Vote: DMI

[LoudmouthLee]

Saph and Pinky, your votes should both be used somewhere, whether on DMI or not. The both of you look very hesitant to lynch at this time. Any reason?

[LoudmouthLee]

Ready and willing to share my results when ready.

[LoudmouthLee]

Shadow, this is an obvious play.. don't go and make the same mistake...

It's VERY easy for someone to get a innocent result on someone who is dead already.

Before you go and make a tremendous mistake...

I received an

innocent

result on SapphireVerde.

So, with that,

Vote: SapphireVerde

and

FoS: TheShadow

, for someone who knows, is not thinking of the fact that I played my COP ROLE CORRECTLY! I received a guilty night one. I was planning on seeing things about my sanity. You (collective) forced me into this position by making me reveal my night one result.

[LoudmouthLee]

Ok I'm slightly confused but lets look at all the evidence
Saphy:
1) investigated LML night 1 - guilty
2) investigated DMI night 2 - innocent

does this not confirm that she is neither insane/paranoid/nieve so therefore she would be telling the truth. And before you all say its a scum plan I will look at LML.

LML:
1) investigated DMI night 1 - guilty
2) investigated SAP night 2 - guilty

These makes LML either insane/paranoid or he could be lyning and trying to Saphy lynched instead of people paying alot of attention to him.

Also Bug was a cowardly cop - so what are the chances of their being three cops - I know you are all thinking this has something to do with Stewie being the mod but still I think 3 cops is a bit much unless there are no townies.

Possible game set-up:

2 mafia? - could be multiple families so 4 mafia
3 cops
1/2 doc
2? potential mafia - don't really know
1 Sk - which could explain the killings of both Phoebus and Bug
0/1 townie

And we have all have been paying alot of attention to these two but remember warpdragon? - he lurked alot and when Maximumum came in to replace him she didn't really post that much either - which I would have expected because when she replaced in my Newbie - which was also modded by Stewie - she posted alot. It turned out that she was pro-town (cop)

Just to clarify-

My Actions:

Night 1- DMI (Guilty)
Night 2 - Sapphire (Innocent)

Sapphire's Actions:

Night 1 - LML (Guilty)
Night 2 - Bug (Innocent, but already dead)

[LoudmouthLee]

I investigated bug, just to make sure. he was telling the truth. Turns out he was and he died.

The question is, why am I still alive?

did the doc come out and protect me? I dunno. All i'm saying here is that

i know i am a sane cop.

It's up to the town to make the right choice.

Bolding mine...

Why are you still alive? One of two reasons...
1) The doc (if there is one?) decided to protect you, or at least the scum thought so. With that they didn't target you.

or... IMHO, most likely.
2) You're part of the scum family. That's why you didn't die.

Tell me, how do you know you're sane? You "investigated" bug who just so happened to die the day you investiagted him? Even so, it was was pretty much confirmed that bug was innocent (at least to me, and i'm sure to others), so why not investigate someone else?

Your cop claim came out unsolicited, and almost led to a lynch of me. I know my role, and I tried to play it to the best of my ability. If you still want to lynch me because of it, I can only try to stop you. But, look at the facts.

[LoudmouthLee]

My answer is easier, shadow.

I was "instrumental" in lynching an innocent. The Scum assumed I'd be lynched because of it.

[LoudmouthLee]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Lots of hugs and love to my Mafia Buddies. Way to go.

Town, I'm really, really sorry that you had to deal with me. I feel like such an "ass" lying like that. Thanks for buying it

Big props to Nanook, who sold the drama very well. Big props to Tally, who, even with a voting restriction, gave me great ideas to use in the game during the nights.

Maximumum, I am now officially part of your fanclub. I do NOT want to be on the Town's side when you're a Mafia member... so diplomatic and sweet. Yet, a killer instinct I tell you.

Everyone, great game!