Mini 169 - Game Over

Dmi · Post Post #150 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:47 am

Talitha: Do you think I didn't realize this role was so powerful? If I was mafia, I would've came up with a more ordinary claim.

As for bug, I was also thinking the same thing as him, except that in the end I thought that if I didn't die that would be totally awesome for the town and so I took the risk.

Stewie · Post Post #151 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:16 pm

Vote count

LoudmouthLee: 3 (Dmi, Warpdragon, SapphireVerde)
Dmi: 3 (Quailman, LoudmouthLee, Fuldu)
The Shadow: 1 (Talitha)
SapphireVerde: 1 (Pinky)

Not Voting: 4 (NanookTheWolf, The Shadow, Phoebus, help im a bug)

Talitha · Post Post #152 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:49 pm

Dmi: But you had to come up with something powerful, to avoid getting lynched after you were fingered. If you were expendable, the best play would be to lynch you and test the cop.

Bah, I though I unvoted shadow already.

unvote: shadow. vote: dmi

The Shadow · Post Post #153 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:59 pm

<dances around> I unvoted first. \:D/

...sorry.

Vote:Dmi

for reasons stated earlier today.

NanookTheWolf · Post Post #154 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:18 am

Alright, next stop on the circle of Love ...

Vote: DMI

Simple enough really .. This should give us more precedence over LoudMouth's sanity and a chance for Buggy to be checked out.

NanookTheWolf · Post Post #155 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:31 am

Oh yeah, that's 6/7 votes everyone ...

Phoebus · Post Post #156 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:07 am

That's my cue.

vote: Dmi

Bye.

Pinky · Post Post #157 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:14 am

aww Phoebus I wanted to do that but you got in there 8minutes faster than me *huff*
lol

Pinky · Post Post #158 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:20 am

correction 7

help im a bug · Post Post #159 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:46 am

*sigh* Sorry I couldn't return to defend you, Dmi. Now let's just hope you weren't a psychic liar.

help im a bug · Post Post #160 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:32 am

Oh, right, and with Dmi dead, I'm going to return to my previous plan of visiting Phoebus.

Stewie · Post Post #161 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:22 pm

Vote count

LoudmouthLee: 3 (Dmi, Warpdragon, SapphireVerde)
Dmi: 6 (Quailman, LoudmouthLee, Fuldu, The Shadow, NanookTheWolf, Phoebus)
The Shadow: 1 (Talitha)
SapphireVerde: 1 (Pinky)

Not Voting: 1 (help im a bug)

Talitha · Post Post #162 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:31 pm

Oh - damn.
I just remembered something important.
Damn I feel silly now. Heh.

NanookTheWolf · Post Post #163 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:33 pm

Ok, so DMI isn't dead ... ?

Talitha · Post Post #164 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:34 pm

Obviously I can't vote for Dmi at this time.

NanookTheWolf · Post Post #165 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:35 pm

Obviously ...

Fuldu · Post Post #166 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:35 pm

Nor, from the look of things, can you unvote.

NanookTheWolf · Post Post #167 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:48 pm

help im a bug wrote:*sigh* Sorry I couldn't return to defend you, Dmi. Now let's just hope you weren't a psychic liar.

Still plan on defending him .. ya know since he hasn't been lynched yet and all?

help im a bug · Post Post #168 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:13 pm

Oh, wow.

Well, my defense was that, unless both of us are lying, it is the best plan for the town not to lynch me or Dmi.

The reasoning being, tonight, we can hide in each other's houses. If one of us dies, then the other must be mafia, and the town can lynch him: a 1-1 trade, which is obviously in the town's favor. If, as I stated earlier, we are

both

telling the truth, then we have two. unkillable. confirmed. townies. This would be

huge

.

So, the possibilities, if someone else is lynched and we stay in each other's houses tonight, are:

bug = town, dmi = town: awesome town advantage
bug = town, dmi = scum: 1-1 trade for the town
bug = scum, dmi = town: 1-1 trade for the town
bug = scum, dmi = scum: this is obviously the worst outcome, but, as we have tons of claimed cops running around and possibly a vig, surely

one

of them could check one of us tonight.

So, in 3 out of the 4 possible cases, it is in the town's interest to lynch someone other than dmi or myself. So, if you're voting for Dmi, that means you think I'm scum as well. As Dmi's claimed role is more powerful than my claimed role, this doesn't make sense at all. There's no reason to vote Dmi over me. Basically, the

best

option for the town would be to leave both of us alone, but, if you're all absolutely sure we're both lying, it makes no sense to vote him over me. I'm the better lynch, out of the two of us.

But there's no reason the town has to vote one of us. I think there are several better options out there. I, for one, would like to hear more about Talitha's role, and why she can't, apparently, change votes before deciding.

Oh, and the reason I absolutely believe Dmi is telling the truth? Because the way he phrased his roleclaim very closely mirrors the structure of my PM.

Talitha · Post Post #169 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:54 pm

help i'm a bug wrote:If, as I stated earlier, we are both telling the truth, then we have two. unkillable. confirmed. townies. This would be huge.

And this is exactly why I find it difficult to believe that you are both telling the truth. Also, you wouldn't be confirmed because you could be working together.

But fair enough, there's no reason to rush the lynch.

Why do you want to hear more about my role?

LoudmouthLee · Post Post #170 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:10 pm

FoS: Bug

What makes you so positive that it has ANYTHING to do with her role? I mean, couldn't it be a pro-town power done for someone else?

Too much info ALWAYS scares me.

LoudmouthLee · Post Post #171 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:56 pm

Bigger FoS on Bug:

I'm a pro-town cop. Verde has me as guilty. I have DMI as guilty. According to your posts, you're giving us, the cops way too much. I don't even know if my results are good. Instead, you're defending someone else with a guilty result. Unless you two are masons, there's nothing you know about his affiliation.

help im a bug · Post Post #172 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:21 pm

Look, all I'm saying is, in the current situation, there's absolutely no reason to vote Dmi instead of me. I can promise you, lynching me will clear him absolutely, while if you lynch him, there will still be some doubt about whether I've been telling the truth (though, it would be pretty smooth of me to guess about cowards, huh?). His ability is more powerful than mine.

And, Talitha, I want to know more about why you can't unvote. Did you know you wouldn't be able to unvote at the beginning of the day? If so, why did you waste your vote? And, if you didn't know, doesn't this mean someone targeted you with an ability during the day that, what, makes you unable to unvote? I don't exactly see how that can be construed as a "pro-town power", Lee, if that's what happened.

The Shadow · Post Post #173 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:14 pm

@ Talitha: Do you have some sort of "only random votes allowed" or "no lynching votes allowed" role?

LoudmouthLee · Post Post #174 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:17 pm

help im a bug wrote:Look, all I'm saying is, in the current situation, there's absolutely no reason to vote Dmi instead of me. I can promise you, lynching me will clear him absolutely, while if you lynch him, there will still be some doubt about whether I've been telling the truth (though, it would be pretty smooth of me to guess about cowards, huh?). His ability is more powerful than mine.

And, Talitha, I want to know more about why you can't unvote. Did you know you wouldn't be able to unvote at the beginning of the day? If so, why did you waste your vote? And, if you didn't know, doesn't this mean someone targeted you with an ability during the day that, what, makes you unable to unvote? I don't exactly see how that can be construed as a "pro-town power", Lee, if that's what happened.

Just saying.. if you have a feeling that someone is scummy, you can force their vote... I have modded games that has pro-town players like that.