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Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Wed May 20, 2009 7:48 am

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Sh-t, another War In Heaven game.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #1) » Thu May 21, 2009 6:09 pm

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Who hasn't confirmed?
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Post Post #16 (isolation #2) » Sat May 23, 2009 12:27 pm

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Post Post #20 (isolation #3) » Sun May 24, 2009 6:57 am

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My starting location has a health pod.

Should we reveal where we started?
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Post Post #22 (isolation #4) » Sun May 24, 2009 7:24 am

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I just noticed there's no powerup that gives +10 health.
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Post Post #24 (isolation #5) » Sun May 24, 2009 7:28 am

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forbiddanlight wrote:
I just noticed there's no powerup that gives +10 health.
Possibly picked up a health powerup but already had 190 health?
Starting with 90 health would work.
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Post Post #32 (isolation #6) » Sun May 24, 2009 8:08 am

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Pesco47 wrote:Claim the location of the health pod. Send the obvtowns there, or in the case of a health pod trigger being in the game, send the obvscums in.
If I claim it everyone will go there, scum or town. We don't know where people are.

On the other hand, scum will share info about powerups they find. I'm considering it.
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Post Post #33 (isolation #7) » Sun May 24, 2009 8:10 am

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veerus, explain.
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Post Post #36 (isolation #8) » Sun May 24, 2009 8:20 am

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Ah.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say veerus is town.
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Post Post #39 (isolation #9) » Sun May 24, 2009 8:38 am

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Hey forbiddanlight, where'd you find that shield pack?
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Post Post #40 (isolation #10) » Sun May 24, 2009 8:39 am

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Pesco47 wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:Ah.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say veerus is town.
Why?
My weapon also has a targetless altfire.

I guess it could do something different.
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Post Post #43 (isolation #11) » Sun May 24, 2009 8:43 am

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forbiddanlight wrote:

My weapon also has a targetless altfire.

I guess it could do something different.
Honestly, clearing someone based on weaponry is a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE idea.
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Post Post #46 (isolation #12) » Sun May 24, 2009 8:47 am

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StrangerCoug wrote:
Fire: Kairyuu


You're fired!

Does not work due to recharge (and a minor mod error involving timing. - Tar
Please at least wait for everyone to post before doing anything stupid.

This applies to me, too.
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Post Post #49 (isolation #13) » Sun May 24, 2009 8:52 am

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forbiddanlight wrote:

Please at least wait for everyone to post before doing anything stupid.
Aww, you mean I can't shoot randomly and kill another godfather?
I'd rather everyone have at least one chance to say something scummy before we start shooting "randomly"
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Post Post #51 (isolation #14) » Sun May 24, 2009 8:53 am

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And by "randomly" I mean the scum
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Post Post #54 (isolation #15) » Sun May 24, 2009 9:03 am

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Kairyuu wrote:Cool. Game started.

I agree with FL. Clearing people based on fire methods is rather odd Xyl. Why suggest it?
Randomly clearing people > randomly shooting people
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Post Post #56 (isolation #16) » Sun May 24, 2009 9:05 am

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Why does randomly clearing people help scum more than randomly shooting people?
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Post Post #57 (isolation #17) » Sun May 24, 2009 9:06 am

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More to the point, which is more dangerous to the town: having the scum shoot people "randomly" or having the scum clear people "randomly"?
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Post Post #61 (isolation #18) » Sun May 24, 2009 9:12 am

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I completely disagree that clearing people is bad for the town. Townies clearing people really doesn't help scum all that much. It's not like you're just running on a program that says "X = scum" and once the scum know that program they can magically do X and fool you.
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Post Post #63 (isolation #19) » Sun May 24, 2009 9:29 am

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forbiddanlight wrote:The other way it helps should be manifestly obvious. It also tells scum who to kill. Clearing townies is just an overall bad idea in my eyes.
I've heard the "it tells scum who to kill" argument before and I don't believe it. Yes, it's a downside, but how does it outweigh the benefit of more info to the town?
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Post Post #65 (isolation #20) » Sun May 24, 2009 9:34 am

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Pesco47 wrote:
Clearing
Voting
people so early means 1 thing: Inside info!

Point gun: Xyl
This logic is equally valid
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Post Post #67 (isolation #21) » Sun May 24, 2009 9:39 am

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forbiddanlight wrote:What info does it give? Scum can say anyone is town and it's all WIFOM.
See Medieval Mafia where a scum gave a scumlist that included who he thought was town, and when he died we immediately caught a scumbuddy based on the scumlist.
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Post Post #68 (isolation #22) » Sun May 24, 2009 9:40 am

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forbiddanlight wrote:

This logic is equally valid
Elaborate?
"I think X is town" is exactly as much a sign of inside info as "I think X is scum".
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Post Post #70 (isolation #23) » Sun May 24, 2009 9:47 am

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See I think part of the problem is that I wrote
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Xylthixlm wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb here and say veerus is town.
but you guys are acting like I wrote
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I'm absolutely convinced veerus is town and am never going to change my opinion in the entire game.
Pesco47 looks particularly bad here.
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Post Post #72 (isolation #24) » Sun May 24, 2009 9:55 am

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forbiddanlight wrote:Nyeh, fair enough, but I can still see you being a little less likely to poke veerus just because you've already declared him town, even tentatively.
You obviously haven't been in a game where I was town before
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Post Post #78 (isolation #25) » Sun May 24, 2009 3:29 pm

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Budja wrote:I agree with a health pod claim.
Anyone opposed to revealing the location of the health pod?
Budja wrote:I don't think random shooting is a good idea, especially if you have a good gun.
Mmm.
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Post Post #80 (isolation #26) » Sun May 24, 2009 3:36 pm

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Budja wrote:What do you mean by Mmm?
I mean "I have a good gun".
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Post Post #82 (isolation #27) » Sun May 24, 2009 8:41 pm

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Pesco47 wrote:
Vote FL
Seriously?
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Post Post #84 (isolation #28) » Sun May 24, 2009 9:31 pm

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I'm seriously hoping there's no invisibility.
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Post Post #91 (isolation #29) » Mon May 25, 2009 4:25 am

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It appears some of you didn't notice this.
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The Zeroth Damage Count (aka the "Game On" Damage Count


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1) veerus - 0/0
2) kuribo
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3) forbiddanlight - +50/0
4) Budja - 0/0
5) StrangerCoug - 0/0
6) Pesco47 - 0/0
7) ortolan - 0/0
8) Kairyuu - 0/0
9) Isacc - 0/0
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11) duckduck96 - 0/+10
12) Xylthixlm - 0/0
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Post Post #92 (isolation #30) » Mon May 25, 2009 4:27 am

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ortolan wrote:Xyl/forbiddan: what was the exchange in 22-24 about?
See zeroth damage count.
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Xyl (39) wrote:Hey forbiddanlight, where'd you find that shield pack?
Where did she claim to have a shield pack?
See zeroth damage count.
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Post Post #96 (isolation #31) » Mon May 25, 2009 5:17 am

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NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and headshots.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise....


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Post Post #100 (isolation #32) » Mon May 25, 2009 5:20 am

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StrangerCoug wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:
NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and headshots.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise....


Fire: Budja
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Post Post #102 (isolation #33) » Mon May 25, 2009 5:25 am

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Meaningless comment + 2 lines of theory discussion + question. Scummy.

Also,
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Post Post #105 (isolation #34) » Mon May 25, 2009 7:23 am

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forbiddanlight and kuribo are looking town here
Pesco is looking scummy
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Post Post #109 (isolation #35) » Mon May 25, 2009 9:24 am

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duckduck96 wrote:veerus, what's up with the quick fire attempt? And, what sort of weapon has an altfire that needs no targeting? Some sort of rocket/grenade launcher?

If veerus's weapon is like mine I understand exactly why he did that.
Also, Xylthixlm, is two posts enough of a reason to fire, especially as you yourself have said "I have a good gun".
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Post Post #110 (isolation #36) » Mon May 25, 2009 9:27 am

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duckduck, please contribute some analysis to the game
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Post Post #126 (isolation #37) » Mon May 25, 2009 11:33 am

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Scum are getting anxious I see

No reason to stay in the health pod, it's capped at 100 hp
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Post Post #128 (isolation #38) » Mon May 25, 2009 11:43 am

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No time, later
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Post Post #145 (isolation #39) » Mon May 25, 2009 12:39 pm

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Instead of asking why I shot budja how about saying who you think I should have shot instead. He was the scummiest player. I plan to continue to shoot scummy players until I run out of ammo or the scum kill me.

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Post Post #153 (isolation #40) » Mon May 25, 2009 12:53 pm

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Isacc wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:Instead of asking why I shot budja how about saying who you think I should have shot instead. He was the scummiest player. I plan to continue to shoot scummy players until I run out of ammo or the scum kill me.

Sincerely, your 280-damage-a-shot dayvig.
This is a stupid plan. You shouldn't have shot anyone that wasn't considered scummy by the entire town, as you are essentially lynching without consulting the town, ergo you're being anti-town.

Agree to stop, please, or we may need to work out a less pleasant agreement.
Anyone who is considered scum by the entire town must be considered scum by the scum too, which means that they probably aren't actually scum. Your plan is even worse than mine.

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Post Post #154 (isolation #41) » Mon May 25, 2009 12:55 pm

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veerus wrote:That was a pretty big and unprovoked kill by Xyl which is super scummy at this point. I've only played one game with him (MS3) but he was very calculating there. This is very unlike him. I don't get it. I'd like to see his reasoning for it that doesn't involve deflecting.

take: shield gun
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Post Post #157 (isolation #42) » Mon May 25, 2009 1:03 pm

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Actually I was trying to kill a scum to confirm myself
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Post Post #159 (isolation #43) » Mon May 25, 2009 1:06 pm

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forbiddanlight wrote:

Please at least wait for everyone to post before doing anything stupid.
Aww, you mean I can't shoot randomly and kill another godfather?
I was trying to do this
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Post Post #162 (isolation #44) » Mon May 25, 2009 1:10 pm

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Ivat least want to take down a scum before I die here
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Post Post #163 (isolation #45) » Mon May 25, 2009 1:13 pm

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You guys really need to read war in heaven (2) here

Killing the people who are trying to kill the scum creates a vicious circle
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Post Post #166 (isolation #46) » Mon May 25, 2009 1:16 pm

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forbiddanlight wrote:
Actually I was trying to kill a scum to confirm myself
Oh hey, this screams SK at the least.

Yeah, NO!
There's nothing I can do to prove I'm not an SK so I plan to burn my ammo and go out in a blaze of glory
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Post Post #173 (isolation #47) » Mon May 25, 2009 1:21 pm

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If veerus has a sniper rifle too I think he can one-shot me with it. Why bother with the redeemer
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Post Post #180 (isolation #48) » Mon May 25, 2009 2:32 pm

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duckduck96 wrote:Ok Xyl. These "explanations" aren't good enough for me. In your next post, I want you to provide me with a valid reason that you went and insta-killed a townie.
I thought he was scum

My bad
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Post Post #182 (isolation #49) » Mon May 25, 2009 2:37 pm

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You should hold on to the redeemer, I'm thinking it would be pretty bad if a scum got their hands on it
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Post Post #185 (isolation #50) » Mon May 25, 2009 2:41 pm

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StrangerCoug wrote:Uhh... I'm still intent on shooting you. I will only hang on to the redeemer long enough to tell everybody what it does (forbiddanlight asked for that info, and I have good reason to believe kuribo wants it too), and then I'm going back to the Bio Rifle and shooting you with it.
You still haven't said who you think was scummier than Budja
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Post Post #188 (isolation #51) » Mon May 25, 2009 2:50 pm

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StrangerCoug wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:Anyone who is considered scum by the entire town must be considered scum by the scum too, which means that they probably aren't actually scum. Your plan is even worse than mine.

I'll be happy to take advice on who should die but I'll make the final call.
At this point I want
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If you don't want me to blow you and potentially anybody in the way (yes, I've been warned about that) to smithereens, then I want you to answer the following for me:

1.
Do you think there was enough reasoning by page 4 to get rid of a player?
2.
Do you think Budja should have been allowed to defend himself?
3.
Did it come to your mind that Budja could have been asleep or someplace where he couldn't get online?
4.
And last, but not least, why should we decide for you who is scummy?
You seem to be misinterpreting here

I decided to kill someone so I killed the player who was scummiest
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Post Post #189 (isolation #52) » Mon May 25, 2009 2:52 pm

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Let's try this again

Why did I kill someone? I felt like it
Why did I kill Budja specifically? He was scummiest
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Post Post #191 (isolation #53) » Mon May 25, 2009 2:55 pm

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duckduck96 wrote:and yet, couldn't you have asked him to defend himself? Instead, without input from the rest of the town, you killed him.
And I'd do it again
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Post Post #192 (isolation #54) » Mon May 25, 2009 2:58 pm

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duckduck96 wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:You should hold on to the redeemer, I'm thinking it would be pretty bad if a scum got their hands on it
Not really. If someone grabbed it quick and blew away a townie, we'd know who to kill next, now wouldn't we?
What if someone grabbed it quick and blew away 4-5 townies? Even if the scum died immediately they'd still be up on the deal

It depends on what exactly it does but it could be too dangerous to drop
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Post Post #194 (isolation #55) » Mon May 25, 2009 3:02 pm

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duckduck96 wrote:So, letting the accused provide input means nothing to you? Letting the town provide input means nothing? This seems very blatantly anti-town to me. You plan on just going on your own crusade, killing whomever you feel like? How does that help the town?
It gives extra town-controlled kills duh

I demand that if the town wants to kill me, duckduck96 takes the first shot
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Post Post #196 (isolation #56) » Mon May 25, 2009 3:07 pm

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duckduck96 wrote:So, you want me to take the first shot? Don't expect much damage.

Fire: Xylthixlm


There.
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Post Post #203 (isolation #57) » Mon May 25, 2009 4:04 pm

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Okay, that wasn't me, I haven't recharged my weapon yet (it's only been 11 hours since my shot)

Apparently someone else has the ability to do 300 damage in one shot and an invisibility powerup
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Post Post #204 (isolation #58) » Mon May 25, 2009 4:21 pm

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By the way, here's a game you guys might find interesting

http://xylbot.pastebin.com/f2c11eafc
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Post Post #206 (isolation #59) » Mon May 25, 2009 4:55 pm

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Oh wait, that was kuribo. It says in the flavor.

Well then.
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Post Post #208 (isolation #60) » Mon May 25, 2009 5:19 pm

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Knowing that there's someone in the game who does 20 damage more than me in one shot makes me feel less special
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Post Post #209 (isolation #61) » Mon May 25, 2009 5:21 pm

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I've got my next shot narrowed to one of

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Post Post #214 (isolation #62) » Mon May 25, 2009 8:17 pm

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Kairyuu wrote:@Xyl: I would rather not be shot before even having a chance to play. I consider that rude. I am V/LA for valid reasons, and would not like to die because I did homework insead of played Mafia.
I will keep this in mind, but I suggest you at least post your initial impressions from whatever reading you do. If you don't do any polishing adds maybe 5 minutes to the time it takes to skim the game... if you're town and not trying to hide anything.
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Post Post #225 (isolation #63) » Tue May 26, 2009 4:32 am

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ortolan wrote:If you were
town
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you wouldn't make virtually random kills which are likely to land on town, and which implicate you also.
fixed. [/WIFOM]

I'm going to leave aside your apparent belief that I am completely incompetent at scumhunting. Did you even read the game I linked to?
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Post Post #226 (isolation #64) » Tue May 26, 2009 4:33 am

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Also ortolan's suggestion that I'm probably SK is kind of weird. Based on my play in MS3 it's much more likely that I'm mafia trying to WIFOM you all.
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Post Post #228 (isolation #65) » Tue May 26, 2009 4:55 am

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shh, I want to see ortolan's reaction
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Post Post #230 (isolation #66) » Tue May 26, 2009 5:04 am

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ortolan wrote:well done in that game, don't honestly see the relation to this game though
I'm thinking of the part where I got a daykill (as scum godfather) and immediately used it to shoot the miller.
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Although granted, I had a much better excuse in that game ("I'm a cop! He's a miller!")
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ortolan wrote:
Xyl (225) wrote:I'm going to leave aside your apparent belief that I am completely incompetent at scumhunting.
Where did this come from?

you are playing your role exactly like I would expect an SK to, and wanting to go down in a "blaze of glory" with what would otherwise be a strong pro-town role seems inconsistent with being town
What do you think I would do as town?
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ortolan wrote:
Xyl (230) wrote:I'm thinking of the part where I got a daykill (as scum godfather) and immediately used it to shoot the miller.
is this mind screw? I was talking about your irc game
Oh

Well there are two possible lessons from that depending on how lucky you think I was. One is "He's crazy, he took the daykill despite not possibly having enough evidence to know who's scum." The other is "He's awesome, he hit scum with the daykill despite having almost no evidence."
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I guess a third option is "You crazy moron, he only said three lines, why are you just shooting randomly, you should give him a chance to defend himself, what if he was town." :roll:
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And a fourth option (which is correct, but nobody picks this one) is "Oh... let's see... the upside is killing a scum, the downside is losing a townie... scum are more valuable than townies... so if Xyl's aim was even a smidge better than random, the shot was good for the town! I never thought of that!"
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Post Post #238 (isolation #72) » Tue May 26, 2009 5:57 am

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BTW anyone else find it odd that ortolan is asking these questions
after
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Post Post #240 (isolation #73) » Tue May 26, 2009 6:41 am

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Meh

Kairyuu's case is convincing, let's disprove it

Please wait for flip before further stupidity

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Post Post #241 (isolation #74) » Tue May 26, 2009 6:42 am

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Wrong game

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Post Post #248 (isolation #75) » Tue May 26, 2009 7:27 am

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I thought it was clear I was making a kill
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Post Post #250 (isolation #76) » Tue May 26, 2009 7:38 am

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Pesco47 wrote:That does not give us any reason to believe there are any relics in the game.
There are relics in the game
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Post Post #254 (isolation #77) » Tue May 26, 2009 9:25 am

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Pesco47 wrote:Now how are the two of you so sure that there ARE relics in the game? My buddy obviously didn't come across one either.
I have one
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Post Post #256 (isolation #78) » Tue May 26, 2009 9:41 am

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Pesco47 wrote:Claim it.
Well, it's not too hard to figure out anyways.

Relic of Strength - permanent double damage.
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Post Post #260 (isolation #79) » Tue May 26, 2009 10:00 am

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Double bah.

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Post Post #262 (isolation #80) » Tue May 26, 2009 10:09 am

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Oh yeah

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Post Post #265 (isolation #81) » Tue May 26, 2009 10:45 am

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This appears to be a list of relics: http://www.moddb.com/mods/relic-madness
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Post Post #271 (isolation #82) » Tue May 26, 2009 12:00 pm

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duckduck96 wrote:And it appears that, if veerus still has the sniper rifle, he just took aim. Be careful with those headshots, now.
Sniper rifle only requires a single altfire to aim. I suspect impact hammer.
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Post Post #276 (isolation #83) » Tue May 26, 2009 3:42 pm

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You're going to be surprised when you see my flip

Being in a game where one or two players can kill me really throws off my play. I try to defend which makes me look scummy. See war in heaven 3

Good luck you're going to need it
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Post Post #277 (isolation #84) » Tue May 26, 2009 3:43 pm

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Oh, and go town
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Post Post #280 (isolation #85) » Tue May 26, 2009 3:49 pm

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Kairyuu wrote:ortolan blatently disregarded my last post, and just took a shot at Wizcat, who hasn't been around, and therefore can't really be nearly scummy enough to shoot.
Scum is obviously going to lurk their way through the game and try to stay out of firefights while town tears itself to bits

Kill Kairyuu for me please
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Post Post #282 (isolation #86) » Tue May 26, 2009 3:59 pm

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"hasn't been around, and therefore can't really be nearly scummy enough to shoot"? Seriously? So all the scum have to do to not be scummy enough to shoot is to sit there and do nothing? Sounds like handing the scum the game to me
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Post Post #341 (isolation #87) » Wed May 27, 2009 6:31 pm

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I make a lousy SK.
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Post Post #349 (isolation #88) » Thu May 28, 2009 7:54 am

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Vi wrote:This was one of the most hilarious games I've read onsite.
I can't believe I missed my chance to be an unlimited dayvig, but seeing Xyl attempt to justify killing whoever he felt like made up for it.
I game where I was an actual unlimited dayvig would be
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Post Post #351 (isolation #89) » Fri May 29, 2009 6:33 am

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For what it's worth, I think the town's best strategy here was a free-for-all. The key is taking out one of the mafia early so they can't combine fire - then it's just shooting everyone and hoping the last guy standing is town.
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