[OLD] Open Setup Ideas and Discussion

Sanjay · Post Post #964 (isolation #0) » Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:26 am

Yup. It has a jester and flirts with cultish elements, both of which are pretty hard to balance. So any extra eyes would be appreciated.

Sanjay · Post Post #975 (isolation #1) » Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:26 am

And ninjas are on the evil team?

Sanjay · Post Post #1048 (isolation #2) » Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:54 am

A mafia doctor has few enough protect targets as is. Maybe a roleblocker and a doctor is too much interference, but I don't see what's wrong with a self-protecting mafia doctor as a rule.

Sanjay · Post Post #1053 (isolation #3) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:04 am

Physician, heal thyself.

Sanjay · Post Post #1055 (isolation #4) » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:05 am

shaft.ed wrote:Think it would be better without the self protect.

Also Roleblocker and Role Cop on the mafia side seems overpowered. Why is the Roleblocker there, and why isn't there a back-up roleblocker?

I agree with this.

I think having a vigilante and a roleblocker distracts from the tit for tat thing going on. Give the town some back up roles or leave them out.

Sanjay · Post Post #1072 (isolation #5) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:14 pm

Can the jailkeeper jailkeep and kill at the same time? Can the deputy investigate and kill at the same time?

Sanjay · Post Post #1074 (isolation #6) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:32 pm

What's the thinking behind leaving them in the game right now? They don't have a winnable win condition anymore, right?

Sanjay · Post Post #1075 (isolation #7) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:10 pm

If I want some help with an open setup that is a slight bit non-traditional, but I don't really care about submitting it for play on mafia scum, what thread do I do that in? This one? Some other one? Do I make a new thread?

Sanjay · Post Post #1084 (isolation #8) » Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:42 pm

I haven't seen the Hider Tracker role before and I really like it.

The very existence of the role seems like it would make being a Hider so much more fun/powerful.

Does the Psychologist get a positive result on the Tracker/Vigilante if the player chooses Tracker?

Sanjay · Post Post #1087 (isolation #9) » Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:21 pm

I definitely like the setup.

Are you worried the town might have too many informative roles though? You've probably considered this and the answer is "no", but if you could maybe compare this to some other balanced setup to put my mind at ease, that would rule.

Sanjay · Post Post #1089 (isolation #10) » Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:31 pm

I'll take your word for it.

Nominate Hard Boiled

Sanjay · Post Post #1091 (isolation #11) » Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:40 pm

Yeah, I really like how much it makes who sends in the kill matter too.

Sanjay · Post Post #1095 (isolation #12) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:25 pm

So if both the mentor and the protege are targeted by the vigs, the game could be over at daybreak?

Sanjay · Post Post #1097 (isolation #13) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:23 pm

Maybe I'm reading these wrong, but why would a mentor even want to recruit an apprentice?

Sanjay · Post Post #1114 (isolation #14) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:43 pm

Mafia RB seems like the odd man out (the other two minimize the value of scum hunting). What don't you like about mafia roleblockers?

Sanjay · Post Post #1118 (isolation #15) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:31 pm

Give them a busdriver. Beep beep.

Sanjay · Post Post #1127 (isolation #16) » Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:59 am

I think the mafia should get a greater ability to teleport. The people joining this game will be ready for wacky teleporting shenanigans and will probably expect it.

Sanjay · Post Post #1129 (isolation #17) » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:15 am

Maybe two-shot might work.

The one problem I can think of is that while the double win is appealing, I think the mafia are probably much more likely to just go for one, and as such they are going to very much dislike being teleported and will probably want to go back. I guess that's more incentive for them to influence the teleport I suppose.

Also, I love the masons. Great idea. Is that new?

Sanjay · Post Post #1136 (isolation #18) » Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:54 pm

skitzer wrote:That makes sense. The 2 Cops are very powerful.

Noah's Ark 2.0

2 Mafia A
2 Mafia B
2 Cops
2 Doctors
2 Townies
2 Millers (who get a Townie Role PM)

It seems like a mass claim on day one is devastating for the scum. It's better with more people who are going to be claiming Vanilla Townie, but it's still really rough.

Sanjay · Post Post #1145 (isolation #19) » Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:42 pm

It isn't 0-2 random. It's 0-2 because the mafia might have been given those roles as fakeclaims. The likeliness of 1 of each rather than 2 of each depends on how many roles there are total.

Sanjay · Post Post #1147 (isolation #20) » Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:51 pm

Oh, I guess I misread it.

I think the way I misunderstood it is better.

Sanjay · Post Post #5781 (isolation #21) » Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:16 am

I really like that setup.

Do the mafia get to decide which of them gets what power role?

Sanjay · Post Post #5783 (isolation #22) » Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:31 am

The dynamic where tracker gets better and goon cop gets worse the more roles the mafia picks is really interesting.

Have a good name for the setup yet?