Mafia 109 - A Glitch in time - Game Over!

[dramonic]

This player list is awesome 0_0

Vote: Anon

let's clean it a bit

[dramonic]

Ederta Illuno: Camn

[dramonic]

It doesnt kill mines anyways. I've been using it for a few months and now I find subsilver way more painful.

Also, this wagon on Nik is sooooooo scummy.

[dramonic]

Oh crap
this game moves fast, I'll get a reread in when I have some time (meaning tomorrow)

[dramonic]

nvm, I got some time now.

First, about the action: It does have an effect. It proves Ythan is gullible
Second, the Nik wagon: Worst... Wagon... EVER...
Third, Hayl's engagement: Aren't you like, 18???
Fourth, lurkerscum accusations: lurker after one RL day? REALLY?
Fifth, personal opinions: No need to lynch CSL yet, if there's a vig he'll prolly shoot him at some point or another.

unvote

just in case

vote:Parama

much better wagon to have if you ask me.

[dramonic]

@Ythan: A case based on 1 post that isnt even scummy doesnt need to be dismantled. a combination of scum and misguided town (or borderline neurotic for Drip ) doesnt need a case to make a wagon. That's what's happening here.

@Drip

1-3: I guess
2: read above
4: not really no. Take the time to check my other games, I havent posted in that interval there either.
5: You ninjaed me by a bunch of hours is all

life: It's decent, I've a nice garden but the neighbours keep partying and it's driving me crazy. I'm planning to move to deadtown alley, any apartments open for renting there?

[dramonic]

25-28 is called scum giving up.

DGB, I see where you're coming from, but I still am kinda sceptical, I've seen Nik scum and it didn't look like that.

On a sidenote, I don't REALLY think you're crazy, dont get your goof in a bundle.

[dramonic]

EBWOP: 25-28 refering to Parama's ISO.

[dramonic]

I'm not down with the clergy with that being a goon flip. No way is a hydra going to go down protecting a goon.

Camn, Drip, Clergy - town.
Panama - probably town.

That said:

Vote: Dramonic

Isn't it a bit late for RVS?

[dramonic]

I'm in a few games right now, I'll post more content when I actually have gone through and analyzed the game with more... whatever you wanna call it.

I'm confused between a misguided SpyreX (like in Dark Goma) or a scum spyreX. I'll reread and see what I find.

I still believe the wagon on Nik was craptastic, even if he flipped scum. Just an FYI.

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Parama, are you only suspicious of people who opposed the Nikanor wagon? Why are scum more likely to take that position over bussing?

Actually I'm looking for likely scum. You and dram have expressed your discontent over the Nikanor wagon/lynch (even after the scumflip) while forgetting to give reasons why he wasn't scum.

I dont have a really big ISO, I gave reason why I didn't think Nik was scum. Look a bit before throwing stuff randomly?

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@Parama:

25-28 is called scum giving up.

DGB, I see where you're coming from, but I still am kinda sceptical, I've seen Nik scum and it didn't look like that.

On a sidenote, I don't REALLY think you're crazy, dont get your goof in a bundle.

Pst, second line.

Also:

Hi. Here's 3 quotes to why Parama is town.

Oh, and I'm not claiming.
Lalalala~.

unvote, vote Nikanor

random hammer mode activate

Nikanor - Mafia Goon - Lynched Day One

Yes, that obviously proves... oh wait, f- all?


@Camn

Ok.. this game needs more signal and WAY less noise.

1.

Parama

Town

. A little too tunnelled on that CSL policy lynch, but we have all been there.
2.

Nachomamma

Null read due to low signal:noise
3.

McZombie

Lurking

in all my games. Please die IRL.
5.

Maemuki

lolmaeisaccusingsomebodyofactivelurking

ISO 33 redeems her though.

Townish

.
6.

Ythan

Town, but actually

hurting the game

. I would have daykilled him already if this were Medieval Mafia. BOO.
7.

Pulindar

(Rep. Miserable At Best)
I like the replacement, but MAB was REALLY SCUMMY.
I almost buy that he was a rookie overwhelmed by our awesomeness... but then I remember when BM replaced out as scum in endgame.

NEVER AGAIN SCUM.

8.

Dramonic

Die lurker die

. This game = awesome, and it should be your #1.
9.

camn

obvtown

.
10.

SpyreX

I agree with his ISO 9 re: hoops.

probtown

. But he is good enough to fool me.
11.

A Clergyman with a Hoop

I don't see scum here. I like ISO 33/34 a lot, and think that they defended too hard to be buddies with Nika.
On the other hand...

Camn needs to learn to stop breadcrumbing in the RVS.

I always breadcrumb. Regardless of role. And every time, pointing it out is scummy.
Last time that happened, it was Yos/Nuwen.. and they were scum. And it was a fake breadcrumb.
I would accept a

deadline lynch

, but I have a

town

read right now.
12.

Drippereth

OBV

TOWN

.
14.

Yosarian2

I generally respect Yos's play VERY HIGHLY, but I think he is off his feed this game.
Spinning out a theory argument after the Nik non-hammer?
Sadly, even when I get a full town-read from Yos, I tend to want to lynch him, since he is another one who can fool me.
I am glad he is finally here to help me control the spam problem though. NULL READ.
15.

Anon

Are you serious when you say Parama is scum, Drip?

Vote: Nikanor.

I am that good.

Prob

Town

16.

KMD

(numbers)
Die, my

lurking

friend. This game deserves more respect.
17.

Weaboo

In his ISO 2 he is on to something, but then seems unconvinced later. Maybe this is Hydra crosstalk. I am feeling his 9 and 10.. but I need WAY more posts from this filthy lurker.

probtown

You are aware of course the point of the game is to kill scum, not lurkers and spammers, correct?

@Ythan: Please stop spamming. Seriously.

@SC: QFT

@Elli: Please control your hound, she's town but rabid.

[dramonic]

Wagon I hammer flips scum.
Wagon I don't support flips town.
So the obvious result is to lynch me?

Idiotic oversimplification, approached only by idiotic stop spamming posts made in an attempt to discredit me instead of saying anything intelligent. :3

Don't worry Ythan, you still have the medal for spammy posts without any useful content

[dramonic]

you know, you should stop listening to Dripberreth fellas <<

she may be town, doesnt change she's not a good source for reads...

[dramonic]

you know, you should stop listening to Dripberreth fellas <<

she may be town, doesnt change she's not a good source for reads...

OMG

If Clergyhoop flips town... which would be weird but still...

Dramonic KNOWS something!!!!

VIG DRAMONIC

Oh look, someone jumping to conclusions hastily, where have I seen this before?

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No, if I am urging people to stop listening to you, its because I see your reads and I go directly against them.

It's because I dont believe HoopSerial is scum

If I were vig, I'd shoot within Ythan, Camn and Parama. mostly the first 2.

Let's see who's more right, heh Goofy?

[dramonic]

If you are scum, you will be vig'ed.

I'm not and you're still pushing for it

[dramonic]

... I just reread... Anon is right

HooplaSerial never got above L-2 0_o

[dramonic]

Which part of you? both?

[dramonic]

... I just reread... Anon is right

HooplaSerial never got above L-2 0_o

Nah, it's a lynch.
We would still very much appreciate a claim! We can get some tea and crumpets and talk about it through twlight.

you yelled L-1 at L-3
What part of town shouldn't lie is hard to grasp?

[dramonic]

Yes I have
What part of "What part of

TOWN

shouldn't lie is hard to grasp" is hard to grasp?
If I thought they were scum I'd say they are scum.

[dramonic]

It amuses me how it seems more than half the players want me dead and I'm still alive

[dramonic]

Oh lookit, wagon

I'm a gun-smith.

Why do you think I haven't tried to mount an offensive on DGB yet?

[dramonic]

and then you guys tell me Parama is town =_=

[dramonic]

Dramonic, are you saying that you investigated DGB for no-gun?

ja

[dramonic]

Could happen, although unlikely.

[dramonic]

Thanks! Also I've decided Parama is town for now.

I angrily have to confirm this...
Parama wields no gun.

[dramonic]

I'll scan who I think is anti-town, thank you very much

[dramonic]

You quote the answer to your own questions camn.

[dramonic]

I dont see any D1 indication you thought she was 'anti-town'.
Plus Parama was #3 on your list. Why not look at me or Ythan?

I think dramonic was/is vig-hunting.

Please discuss.

I dont have to write something to believe it. I have an extra-hard time managing DGB's play. Also, Ythan is totally lynchable/viggable without an investigation, while Parama has a lot of people (or feels like he has) thinking he's protown, therefore he's a bigger threat if he's actually scum.

understand or unclear?

[dramonic]

Why did you wait to post your results until quoting me?

I didnt, I posted for daybreak sake then the next time I posted you had, it's not a necessity for you to post for me to post

@DGB: How surprising

@Camn: Your scum list reek as hell, I'm surprised I'm the only one who is pointing it out. You have a bunch of "lurker" and no scum, except I think Pulindar.

Also, I can't hunt cops, I can only catch vigs or mafiosos. Also, until proven otherwise, there is NO vig <<

[dramonic]

I dont have to write something to believe it. I have an extra-hard time managing DGB's play. Also, Ythan is totally lynchable/viggable without an investigation, while Parama has a lot of people (or feels like he has) thinking he's protown, therefore he's a bigger threat if he's actually scum.

Did you ever stop to think that if a lot of townies see someone as pro-town then that person probably IS a townie? (see: Drippereth)

I don't have a list of who's town and who's scum, also if general opinion was always right scum wouldn't win.

[dramonic]

I find your explanations iffy.

I find your posting style iffy, doesn't make it a case

[dramonic]

they just say

X is scum

Y is town

lolz you scuummy:P


They're as much noise as Ythan is, except since it's DGB it's supposedly content.

[dramonic]

they just say

X is scum

Y is town

lolz you scuummy:P


They're as much noise as Ythan is, except since it's DGB it's supposedly content.

Then why didn't you even

mention

that before?

The stuff you quoted in 1066 pretty much IS a mention
Also, that second quote being after my investigation, it's not like I didnt already know she was town then.

Just because someone is town doesn't mean you should be a good little follower and just fall in line if you think they are heavily misguided.

[dramonic]

For God's sake respond to something relevant.

Well ask something relevant then. You haven't even formulated a question for me to answer, barring that thing about your earlier quote (which was irrelevant)

[dramonic]

I'll scan who I think is anti-town, thank you very much

You said this, you know. And you failed to explain why your only mentions of Drip are hardly consistent.

Then ask me to explain instead of saying "there's stuff you're not explaining"

people who are a simple source of noise don't count as more than anti-town. DGB fits in the above category, therefore is ripe for a check. The fact I didn't say XYZ is anti-town is completely irrelevant. I did mention I didnt like the Nik wagon, a wagon on which DGB was. My only reason for having said DGB is borderline neurotic town and not borderline neurotic period other is because she's consistent with her town play I've seen (which doesnt mean said play is town, dont try putting words in my mouth). I've yet to see her scumplay though, better be safe than sorry.

[dramonic]

I'm not a great read of voting patterns myself. Evidence (a simple explanation) of Parama bussing Nik would put him back on the map for me.

Someone isn't paying attention. Parama is town.

[dramonic]

You're looking at one of the lurker pile. There are players who are still hoping to lynch someone scummy.

This just in: lurking isn't scummy!

Typoed much? Or did you just admit to voting someone who you dont think is doing anything scummy?

[dramonic]

Oh, I misunderstood your use of sarcasm, I thought you were trying to teach Ythan something X_X

[dramonic]

I'd still like to see Dramonic respond to this.

Remember that I had claimed "NOT VIG" so if Dramonic were scum, he knew he wouldn't be making a mistake if he said I don't have a gun.

That's pretty damning I think.

I really am interested in hearing what you were thinking with your choice, dramonic.

She didn't claim "not scum"

Also, this is a very good point against the people saying I'm vig hunting.

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I'm saying the people saying I'm vig hunting should explain to me why I'd investigate someone who yelled not vig at the top of its lungs.

[dramonic]

Reck here. I'm not going to bother with D2 so I can keep my head in the game. Why hasn't Ythan been lynched yet, exactly? He's spamming this thread with contentless posts and fluff so hard it's making my head spin.

No YOU!

fixed <<

[dramonic]

I've answered all your (weak) questions already Ythan. If there are questions I missed, I'll be glad to answer them, as long as it's not a repeat of previous mentions.

[dramonic]

If we did you'd be dead, be glad we don't.

[dramonic]

And of course note that the one guy who can't stop whining about my posting style instead of addressing the points made against him is the one I happen to have my vote on. Not that this doesn't figure when you take the rest of him into account.

You better start multivoting then, cause of the 14 players alive, 11 have asked you to change posting style. The other three are you, McZombie (who posted 2 times...) and Maemuki. Take a hint won't you?

Dramonic. Can't be bothered to actually do anything about the Nik wagon he hated so much.

"Don't vote him, I have a meta townread". ANd then what? I'm not going to fling bricks at people for not agreeing with a read I can't really defend, especially when I see I'm wrong and they're right after. Is that actually a reason to vote someone? Hoops was also against the wagon and flipped town.

Whining about often negligible "spam" posts instead of addressing meaningful questions about the fact that he is scum.

See higher, also your belief is not fact.

Claim post comes off as not genuine. Explanations for investigation targets come off as very not genuine, in particular when his stated method of determining a target doesn't match up with his own posts.

Your read on my posting style is not something I'm going to fix, deal with it. Also, my investigations on Drip and Parama don't go against my belief they are/play as anti-town.

Generally dismissive, which complicates the fact that he has so many questions to answer.

funny how you're the only one whining about that. I'd reckon the others know I've answered them and stopped spamming by now.

[dramonic]

Vote: Nacho

I approve of this wagon

[dramonic]

Indeed.

As it is, Ythan has weasled out of really taking a stance on anyone.
He has either null or scum reads on EVERYONE.. thus can attack anyone in the game at any time without explaining why or when he started to think they were scummy.

A bit like how you have null or town on everyone in your list?

{Kise}

Scum = Parama.

Null = Dram'.

Look, either you believe me or you dont. Parama is gunless, until we have proof that there is a vig mafia has guns.

[dramonic]

A bit like how you have null or town on everyone in your list?.

Actually, that would be the opposite, if it were accurate.

I know, it was a figure of speech

And Dram.. why not investigate me, if I am so scummy? Because you are already convinced I am no vig.. and thus a waste of your scum-vestigation?

I have others in priority before you.

[dramonic]

That was... kinda unexpected?
In a good way.
Now pile the votes, we've got a confessions

[dramonic]

On that note, dramonic, your report?

I checked Ythan, hopping desperately to get a gun result and get him lynched from it.
Alas he was gunless (duh)
Also now that we have a second kill I cant out gunbearers as relaxingly as I wish :S

[dramonic]

no, I'm scum because I'm alive period.

Apparently it's not logical for me to not get NKed cuz I'm gunsmith. Let's ignore the fact NKing would serve no purpose since I seem to attract lynch love so far throughout the game.

[dramonic]

Theory: Scum is actually gunless, my ability can only catch vig/SK because Haylen is bastardly like that. In the meantime, we have DGB scum that is keeping me alive and not having his mates RB me because the longer I'm alive, the easier it is to lynch me by saying I'm fakeclaiming. They dont care if I live since I'm no threat.

[dramonic]

I swear Haylen has some kind of owl fetish, she keeps doing that to me too X_X

[dramonic]

Hi.
I haven't really read the last few pages yet, but I have two announcements:

Starbuck is Town
Mae is Town

Dram, did you get a list of roles in your pm that you were told would give you a positive to a gun?

nope

[dramonic]

she says I can catch pie.

[dramonic]

yeah, that's what she was referring to. DGB wanting me to break my role or something

But I gave the answer already.