Mafia 109 - A Glitch in time - Game Over!

[Maemuki]

Oh hai guys

Vote: Miserable At Best

For having such a negative personality. It's the opposite of mine, dammit.

[Maemuki]

Is the OP to be interpreted to clear Nikanor, Dramonic, Mae, SpyreX, and Yos of belonging to the Mafia faction?

Doubt it - if you notice it the flavour was made before the roles were sent.

[Maemuki]

PLOT HOLE

pssssht don't say it out loud or haylen will kill us!

[Maemuki]

Speaking of the OP...

it showed the scene in which the mafia and werewolves were defeated a few years ago and the rebuilding of the school.

As I recall, the mafia killed everyone last time (I should know. I was there).

AND I WAS A BUNNY-LOVING WEREWOLF (screw logic, I have bunnies)

[Maemuki]

Last time? Previous game hosted by Haylen?

Open something, Monks & Masons. Yes, her previous game.

[Maemuki]

I guess that post 25 was made by Elli too for two reasons:

a. DGB hates me.
b. It sounds like Elli.

And Nik doesn't sound like Nik right now. What - were you expecting a 30 paragraph case on page 1?

Unvote, Vote: Nikanor

[Maemuki]

Game started while I was at school, obv.

Nikanor is at L-2. Nice quickwagon there.

@ Nikanor's bandwagon: Why do you think Nik's scum?

He thought that Drip was serious on the "OH HAI GUYS PARAMA IS SCUM". On the RVS. This vote is as good as any. Do you really want to go back to RVS?

[Maemuki]

Vote: Nikanor

I don't like him. I think he's scum.

L-1, by the way.

My friends, Nik is scum and so is CSL.

We caught scum on page 3! Awesome.

[Maemuki]

While Nik's posts are the most suspicious to me at this point I think it's a bit early to call his flip.

k - maybe Nik's flip.

Anyway - it would be reeeeeeeeally nice if CSL had some reasoning to add into this wagon~

[Maemuki]

Nvm, he's at L-1.
Anyways I feel a claim is in order, anyone else agree?

Not yet~ Let him answer! (CSL should probrably give some reasoning to enter the wagon, too~)

[Maemuki]

EBWOP: He's not.
I still don't understand the wagon very well, seems like RVS logic to me, but I'm not against it. Regardless, not going to vote to put him at L-1, and CSL is still a better lynch.

Getting out of the RVS.

The reason why I called CSL and Nik scum so early it's because I've experienced first-hand CSL-scum-bussing, and it seemed very similiar, if you're wondering.

[Maemuki]

Vote: camn

Competing bandwagons = instant win.

Mae, if you're serious about the CSL-bussing, can you give us an example?

I've only been scum with him once - and it was a long time ago - but from what I've seen, he does one of the following:

a. Busses one of his scumbuddies;
b. Shuts up and repeats "you just lynched a townie" over and over again.

Eeeh, not much. But it's better than nothing.

[Maemuki]

Can we lynch CSL tomorrow?

Reaction to CSL hammer:

CSL, you are getting worse on every game that we play. Sorry to reveal this to you.

Oh, Nik, you have lots of time to give a case. Haylie is working right now~ (noI'mnotstalkingherwhydoyouask)

WHERE IS EVERYONE??

I was

sleeping

. It's not like I was listening to some music or anything.

[Maemuki]

I can't really give good analysis on my wagon because it's so mind-numbingly stupid. I would look at the people who just echoed 'Yes, he's scum' with Drip. MaB in particular stands out to me because it looks like she's trying to push my wagon while not voting me, and at the same time trying to blend in with the 'o ya Nik's scum' attitude. She's my top suspect for this post.

MaB isn't voting for you.

[Maemuki]

^ Good post. This is the clearest, most compelling piece of logic I've seen all game (which still doesn't say much). Nikanor needs to be avenged with a MaB lynch tomorrow.

^ While I agree with that - MaB wasn't voting for Nik, and in fact, all of his/her posts have been active lurking. Active lurking while trying to attack Nik...wait...(lolmaeisaccusingsomebodyofactivelurking)

[Maemuki]

MaB isn't voting for you.

That's why it's suspicious. She's saying 'Yeah, I understand why Nik is scum,' while I don't think she actually does. It just reeks of scum blending.

I realized that on the post above. :P But thanks anyway.

[Maemuki]

You understand why it's suspicious when she's not voting me, then?

Nik, I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but I'm not

completely

ignorant.

[Maemuki]

While I agree with that - MaB wasn't voting for Nik

This says otherwise! :P

I just want to make sure MaB is lynched tomorrow, is all.

I don't have fast thoughts. :P

We'll see~ CSL or MaB...

[Maemuki]

Ok, so this is all we have? A 9 page, not even a RL-day long D1? Nice. I don't have nothing else to say, except:

CSL, why the hell did you hammer?

*csldoesn'tanswer* Oh yeah - he has a different time zone, I forgot.

Eeeeh, I'm going to listen to Kagome-Kagome a few more times then. *sigh* I hate stage 5.

[Maemuki]

Wait. Nik isn't lynched, then? *relieved*

[Maemuki]

I screwed up. Or did I?

Drippereth, I'm starting to think you're scum because you fail at votecount reads.

I read that it was the hammer too, CSL. Not only me. Hoops/SC did too. Worst. Case. Ever. Even you said that it was the hammer, the hypocrisy.

Happiness~! CSL doesn't care about this game!

(PS: If I sound annoyed, it's because I want to freaking strangle Tewi)

[Maemuki]

About 3-4 people said it was gonna be the hammer, so I voted.

Yes, I do care about this game.

(P.S. Who the hell is Tewi?)

Why?

Seriously?

(PS: Tewi is the midboss of stage 5 on Imperishable Night. Yeah, stage 5, laugh, then see this, it's a shame that the Stage 5 theme is so pretty, too...)

[Maemuki]

Do I have to answer that?

Yeah.

(PS.: Stage 5 on anything is hard as hell, believe me, so I aint gonna laugh)

Yup, or I'll consider you scum even more than what I'm doing now.

*raises eyebrow*

(PS: I'm glad that you share my views. The stage 5 theme is so damn catchy though...)

[Maemuki]

Read the last few pages.

*raises two eyebrows*

(PS: Wow. Um, maybe we should continue this "PS" discussion elsewhere. Pref MSN or PM.)

You have to say it, or else you were voting for a case that you did not understand.

*orly face*

[Maemuki]

Here is where the vc fail was, right after Zombie voted.

*two raised eyebrows, an orly face, and a toungue flip*

She corrected herself one minute after that - what's your point? And I still see no logical reasoning.

[Maemuki]

Weeaboo is just lurking. How come I missed that?!

[Maemuki]

Camn, pay attention.

In death there is no reveal.

What?

But she said: "Even if we destroy each other, our deaths will be remembered.".

That. Makes. No. Sense.

[Maemuki]

Three days to deadline. :\

Thank you Captain Obvious!

Could you be any more useless?

[Maemuki]

Camn, pay attention.

In death there is no reveal.

What?

But she said: "Even if we destroy each other, our deaths will be remembered.".

That. Makes. No. Sense.

That's why I'm asking. If you didn't catch this earlier, in death ere is no reveal is drawn from the italicized words in her posts.

I know. That's why it makes no sense!

[Maemuki]

I just want to cut to the chase on this whole madness:

Is the core of the Nik case that single statement?

CSL threw down that vote totally expecting it to be hammer.

Has everyone even POSTED yet?

Not really.

Yup.

Nope, Weaboo hasn't.

[Maemuki]

MaB, please place a vote. Everybody is voting except for you - or at least, who do you think that is scum?

@ SK, you sleep a lot.

[Maemuki]

Dear Hoops,

I can't see how Nik quickhammer would be good for the town or for the scum.

If he was town - we would lose a townie, obv.

If he was scum, we wouldn't know his scumbuddies. How is that good?

(And by the way - that was directed to CSL, to his Drip case. Misrepresentation!)

Love,
Mae

[Maemuki]

Actually, I can't seem to take this game seriously yet, if it matters.

So you wouldn't mind helping us out and hammering Nikanor, right?

thisthis

[Maemuki]

Clergyhoop, let's face it, it was a RVS-wagon at first.

Then Nik says "I'M GOING TO SHUT UP WITHOUT CLAIMING" (a huge scumtell on my book, only scum don't want to make their role known after death, so that the town won't have time to speculate about scumbuddies/if the claim is true or not, blablabla) - while making a case on Mr. Active-lurker (or MaB). Everybody knows that it's easy to make cases on Active-lurkers. I don't see how Nik is "omgobvtown", I just don't. Where the hell did he act town?!

Hoops, Clergy, this is a speed game. What were you expecting? I mean, seriously.

[Maemuki]

Maemuki is almost there.

??

Kmd's case against me is lame since it is pretty much Clerhoops case against me part 2, and I already defended myself from your accusations, Kmd~ *sings a song about caged birds*

@ MaB - textbook, scum OMGUS, reasonless questions, etc. ISO him so you can see what I'm talking about. (that last attack by Nik really seemed like bussing btw)

Vote: Miserable at Best

[Maemuki]

This thread needs moar McZombie.

[Maemuki]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but DGB, how do you know that the NK failed? o.o

I still say that that Nik attack was a bus.

[Maemuki]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but DGB, how do you know that the NK failed? o.o

I still say that that Nik attack was a bus.

One death. CSL. Unlikely scum. A game of this size would unlikely have a single NK when combining: (1) dim probability of multiple scumteams; (2) vigs and (3) SKs. Also, read the scum QTs in Kingdom Hearts where being a miller afforded me some unexpected longevity; all the scums have vowed to make sure I be very dead by Day 2 in all future games. My DGB title is "mafia pinata" for a reason. So in all probability I was the NK and it failed.

There may be bus'ing on the wagon but it sure didn't come from me. I think after we lynch 3 scums in a row you will change your mind about that ;-)

> That was my theory. Just not as detailed. :D

> I was talking about MaB.

[Maemuki]

I disagree on Mae. She is scummy.

Thanks for not listening to me~

[Maemuki]

Page 10, Mae is "relieved" that Nik-scum isn't dead. Hmm.

Answered.

Page 9, Mae's pissed off reaction to CSL's vote looks kinda fake.

I fail to see how this is a good attack.

Read moar.

[Maemuki]

Faking anger with a quickhammer is scummy and that's what it looked like to me.

*shrugs* Then it's no use arguing with that, I can't change the way you see things.

Answered where? Quote it because I scanned you in ISO and didn't see it.

I'll repeat:

would it be good if there was a quicklynch? No. Because:

a. if he was town, it would be a wasted day;
b. if he was scum, we wouldn't have any clues that pointed to his scumbuddies.

May I suggest a closer look, Kmd?

[Maemuki]

Ok, reminding myself that this is about you being "relieved" that Nikscum was still alive.

a. Not true. Look at who quicklynched and separate townvotes from scumvotes.
b. Not true. Look at whose votes were obvnonbussing and who defended/avoided Nik.

Yeah, I need to take a closer look at the end of Day votes. I'll get around to it.

Dear Kmd,

you did realize that even then I didn't take my vote off Nik, didn't you?

And that's true, but it's much harder to do. Besides, links are easier to see if there was more conversation.

@ Pulindar lol at your Nacho read. He's defending you, so he's town. Yup. That makes complete sense.

[Maemuki]

Links? To what?

To scum?

Ok, so why were you so pissed that CSL appeared to have hammered if you left your vote there?

Once you hammer, there's no unvoting. Unless I'm mistaken.

I feel like I'm talking to a wall. I ALREADY EXPLAINED! *headdesk*

[Maemuki]

BTW I'm a GREAT jailkeep target.

BTW, what does this have to do with anything? At all?

OK. GUYS, LET'S LYNCH PULINDAR. THIS ISN'T GOING TO GET ANYWHERE. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

[Maemuki]

The lady's made a request. The proper thing to do is oblige her.

???

[Maemuki]

(anything other than VT would be a fake claim by me)

...did you seriously just claim VT when you were nowhere near a lynch?

Did you really miss my long diatribe this game on why it's anti-town for any vanilla townie to ever claim vanilla, under almost any circumstances? And it's especially bad since you weren't in any imminent danger of being lynched?

Generally, once someone claims vanilla, the town pretty much has to either lynch them or vig them.

Now can you vote for Pulindar?

[Maemuki]

(anything other than VT would be a fake claim by me)

...did you seriously just claim VT when you were nowhere near a lynch?

Did you really miss my long diatribe this game on why it's anti-town for any vanilla townie to ever claim vanilla, under almost any circumstances? And it's especially bad since you weren't in any imminent danger of being lynched?

Generally, once someone claims vanilla, the town pretty much has to either lynch them or vig them.

Now can you vote for Pulindar?

Well, except for the little problem that Clergy is obvscum who needs to die today.

We'll just lynch him tomorrow I just can't stand the sight of living scum anymore. :< Pleeeeeeease?

[Maemuki]

Gah!

I have to THINK.

Think think think think.

Eeeeehh?

[Maemuki]

I find the unprompted, unpressured, early, uncesssary VT claim townie.

That's why.

*raises eyebrow* Really?

Mae you're already on me. Ask a question, give a reason. Yos gave a reason and he didn't even vote me

Pulindar. Are you testing my patience? Why are all of the stupid questions, to waste the town's time?

(if you answer "that's a stupid question too", I'm going to be very very angry)

[Maemuki]

I find the unprompted, unpressured, early, uncesssary VT claim townie.

That's why.

*raises eyebrow* Really?

Do you think scum would have put that there? I don't.

Yes.

[Maemuki]

Dear players,

what the fuck is going on?

Love,

Mea

(I saw that, Pulindar) Mae

[Maemuki]

I find your explanations iffy.

I find your posting style iffy, doesn't make it a case :P

Actually it kinda does. I fail to see how Drippy needed to be investigated.

[Maemuki]

The possibilities seem to be either that he found Drip scummier than anyone else or that he didn't want to clear someone who wasn't nearly cleared already. Let's take a look at his past feelings on Drip.

I believe that he didn't even mention Drip as a read on D1.

[Maemuki]

I believe that he didn't even mention Drip

+ a

read on D1.

Also happy birthday~

[Maemuki]

they just say

X is scum

Y is town

lolz you scuummy:P


They're as much noise as Ythan is, except since it's DGB it's supposedly content.

Then why didn't you even

mention

that before?

[Maemuki]

misguided town (or borderline neurotic for Drip :P)

you know, you should stop listening to Dripberreth fellas <<
she may be town, doesnt change she's not a good source for reads...

I like the

shemaybetownbutdon'tlistentoasinglethingthatshesays!

part.

[Maemuki]

*sigh* Can we at least wait for Nacho to answer?

[Maemuki]

Nacho, Anon, Ythan, or Mae is the way to go.

You're not listening to me, are you.

[Maemuki]

...hai guys. Ahm. Nacho's a lurker lynch isn't he? Can somebody explain me why a lurker lynch is better than another lynch? (Please explain it like you would explain it to a 4 year old.)

[Maemuki]

Please excuse me, but...


WTF?

*Shrugs* ~ Hayl

[Maemuki]

Maybe Gunsmith is a technical term for the role, if dram really is who he says he is. I actually thought this was another werewolves game. Anyway, check out Mae's views on known scum. She is scum.

So people have to be 100% right now? AWESOME!

Also D1 says hi to you! Also [2], why are your reasons pretty much the same as Kmd's? (SHE WASN'T LYNCHING SCUM SO SHE'S SCUM YAY!)

We have a vig. Or an SK prepping for vig who will win

I'm guessing the latter. Haylen is Haylen after all.

[Maemuki]

Vote Maemuki

Hi!

[Maemuki]

What's up

Dunno

[Maemuki]

Got anything to say that relates to the game?

Yes. I can understand

your

reasoning. You've been attacking me all game. Weaboo...he mentioned me three times. One of them was neutral, the second was scummy, and this one's a vote.

By the way Weaboo - I thought that CSL was scummy because of his quick-vote. Please notice that my vote was always on Nikanor though.

You do have a point on Nacho - but I really was confused. I'm pretty damn sure that you weren't on Nikanor's wagon, too, and I'm not saying that you're scum because of it, am I?

[Maemuki]

People always think it's DGB ... :P
But yeah, Dram is almost definitely a gunsmith now.
Policy lynching is not a scumtell.
Mae posted elsewhere, I want her to come in and fill out HER TEST.

Wait a bit please! I was setting up my newbie game! :<

Trying to set up a lynch for the next day, but he died in the overnight.

Seems like a slip to me.

Wait, why the bloody hell would I set up a lynch for the following day if he was killed?

[Maemuki]

Maelyn is lurking, isn't she? I think... Starbuck is the only other lurker, but McZombie is not scum. Can't be. You telling me she would have put Nik in hammering range like that? I don't see it.

I'M NOT HYDRAING WITH THE MOD DAMMIT Also Parama.

MaB/Pulindar. Both are selectively speaking with who they choose, and Pulindar earlier wrote a big wall on all the living players, but had so little to say about Nacho. In fact, all Pulindar said about Nacho was that he was one of the best players they've ever seen, and requested they post more. What!? That's not giving your opinion on a player in the thread. That's some generalized stuff right thurr. I could actually settle for a Pul' lynch today now that I've gone over him more...

That wasn't the question but ok.

1) Which player do you think is most likely scum? Why?

Not a big fan of Parama. But I'm really not liking Weaboo's play now. Suspecting me is fine - but notice that he leaves other lynches open, just in case that I'm able to defend myself! (Just before you attack me for defending the player that is defending me Weaboo, that would be pretty damn scummy even if you suspected anybody else.)

2) If that player were killed right now as scum, which player do you think is most likely to be that player's scumbuddy? Why?

3) Who was bus'ing on the Nikanor and Nacho wagons?

Can I answer this one when I'm not typing on an iPod?

4) Are you scum? Please answer with more than 10 words.

No. My role PM says I'm town, and I know that my name will appear green when I flip.

5) Why do you think Dramonic is still alive?

WIFOM.

6) Do you trust SpyreX?

I don't agree with him, but I don't see any specific reasons to lynch him now. There are worse people *coughparacough*

7) Was your response to Question #4 a lie?

Nope!

8) Who are your top 3 lynches today?

Eeeeeeh...can I deflect this one like Weaboo did it?

9) Please provide a list of lurkers you'd be willing to slay mercilessly, and explain why.

Parama. I can't even remember the last time he posted here. That's bad.

10) Who did you target last night?

Why do you care?

I'll expand on this tomorrow. Sorry guys - I really detached myself from this game. I'm trying to get back, but it's hard.