Title Fairy: Out With The Orca, In With The Moogle

[Mr. Flay]

I've decided to be Thok again for a bit.

Thread title:

Meet The New Boss, Same As The Old Boss

[Mr. Flay]

Good to see the new thread is keeping the old high standards...

[Mr. Flay]

ABUSE OF POWER!

Ahem. Anyway, for some reason I can't get

Pseudo_Newbie

out of my head for Sudo, even though it breaks most of the rules I like for Titling.

[Mr. Flay]

I still think Pseudo_Newbie is good, but whatever. Forever Young and Usedtobie get too far away from the original joke. I don't think the two-week rule applies here, since his Scummie has been funny for almost 12 months (and technically, he started in 2007 so it looks he had it for *3* years).

The Hormel Kid is... okay. Not great, but not bad. It also works in some of the accusations of being a horndog which, as long as he's not offended, adds.

[Mr. Flay]

The camn thing looks like fishing. Even if it isn't, the suggestions so far are weak.

DGB, please stop with the sciencelab thing here. It's off-topic.

Sudo getting "Newbie since 2008" seems quite good.

[Mr. Flay]

He's just flexible about what he gets.

camn's new "Soundtracker" idea is better. I don't love it, but I like it better now that I know it's game-related.

In other news, armlx seriously needs a new title/reversion. JDTay hasn't been on the site for HOW long?

[Mr. Flay]

I can't find the original nomination with Google...

[Mr. Flay]

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 235#965235

Nicely spotted....yeesh.

[Mr. Flay]

Ythan should have something like "

I'd just like to say one more thing...

" - probably with the quotation marks.

[Mr. Flay]

I'ma let you finish?

Too concise.

[Mr. Flay]

Lost in the Haystack

?

[Mr. Flay]

I am amazed how long it takes me to be lynched as scum.

Err? Why is this a bad thing? [/offtopic]

[Mr. Flay]

I am officially requesting the title:

Most hated player at Mafia Scum

Not even close, kiddo.

[Mr. Flay]

This is almost as epic as SlySly getting Yos2 to foam at the mouth.

[Mr. Flay]

Lighten up, dammit.

Because that is an original suggestion that has never been considered for Shea.

[Mr. Flay]

I am also conscious that "I'm Bi, Dammit" get very close to ol' TSQ

I don't like it for precisely that reason, actually. Looks like a ripoff.

[Mr. Flay]

I still think Pseudo_Newbie is good

[Mr. Flay]

I also like "Best Newbie" or "Newbier then You" for Sudo.

"GD is my Wingman" is probably the best yet for Reck.

[Mr. Flay]

Premature E* looks good to me. I don't like the rest (actually I like the "oh, nevermind", but not enough to overcome my fear of multiline titles).

[Mr. Flay]

Titles that don't wrap will vary in length, since we don't use a monospace font, and it'll depend on what font you're using for your browser. But Oman's title indicates that the limit will be around 26-30 characters, depending on how many 'l's and 'm's you have. "Assassins in the... nevermind" is about 2-3 characters too long, specifically (sidebar's likely to get a little wider in phpBB3, but probably not that much wider).

[Mr. Flay]

Most role PM misreads don't end the game and autolose for you.

[Mr. Flay]

Agreed with Haystack being much better.

[Mr. Flay]

Nominate Reck for Im bi dammit.

Nominate Nobody Special for Inverse Cinderella

Nominate dramonic for Homogeek

Lame. That's sigline material, if anything.

[Mr. Flay]

Looks like all of EotB's game posts are in the archive now; when was the last time you played?

I didn't expect it to 'recount', frankly...

[Mr. Flay]

Tourist is like Townsperson, but with 0 game posts. It's not a 'title', it's more like 'Guest' rank.

[Mr. Flay]

Speaking of which.

mithdog

How will Three change the title system? Does it still require jeep addition?

You ready to try using the ACP to add titles? I can grant you the priv and try to talk you through it...

[Mr. Flay]

Speaking of which.

mithdog

How will Three change the title system? Does it still require jeep addition?

You ready to try using the ACP to add titles? I can grant you the priv and try to talk you through it...

Not even sure what the ACP is. I'm happy to say that I need to do some reading on what is required before I become an operator instead of a customer.

Any recommendations on how to get that required knowledge base?

Well, the nice thing is, we have this handy-dandy archive of titles if you do end up screwing up.

I've given you the priv. The ACP link will show up at the very bottom of your screen, helpfully named "Administration Control Panel". You'll have to re-enter your password. Then you basically follow iamkingdavid's instructions - you should be locked down pretty hard from messing with anything else. Shoot me a PM if you get lost; probably your first task should be to clean up the ones that have now-broken HTML in them, to practice.

[Mr. Flay]

I've stripped the HTML/bbcodes out for now (and saved them so they can be restored later).

I miss SaberKitty's title already.

[Mr. Flay]

I have removed Korts' title; Oman, if you'll create the other titles with your newfound powers, mith or I can get them applied to the correct users. I'll work on figuring out how to get you the ability to apply titles later.

Hey, we decentralized a LITTLE bit of the work, and it's a damn sight faster than editing the database directly!

[Mr. Flay]

Just let me know when you're done with titles, Oman, and I can implement them while I'm thinking about other stuff.

[Mr. Flay]

Sorry dude, didn't realise that you expected me to be on this. I was waiting until we got the whole shebang figured out. They'll be done tomorrow, I'll PM confirmation.

No no, you misunderstand me. I just meant to let me know when you were ready for my part, since I may not be able to solve the permissions thing right away. Anything you get done before October will be a marked improvement in speed over the old system.

[Mr. Flay]

:hi5:

Not tonight. But this month, certainly.

[Mr. Flay]

... that didn't even make any sense to ME! Clearly I need sleep...

[Mr. Flay]

Approved a bunch more from the first post.

[Mr. Flay]

Also, for information, looks like the character limit is higher now too.

*smacks forehead* I just got the point of this post. Try and see if your old-new title will fit now, or are you no longer interested?

Also:

Oman, stop abusing your power.

[Mr. Flay]

What about

Ghost of a Man

?

[Mr. Flay]

Is the "ghost" a reference to something?

Oh actually it is referencing the "weep not for me" thing?

Got it in 1. I figured it combined the gender thing and the big 'ghost edit' phenomenon. He may not want that, though, which is fine.

[Mr. Flay]

He left the site.

[Mr. Flay]

Eating yourself in any context qualifies, I would think.

Oman:

Considering the level of disinvolvement I've had with the wiki of late, I'm forced to conclude that my title may be severely outdated. I'm not sure if I should put it up for 'referendum' here or just ask you, or what, but I thought you should know. Any suggestions for more relevant titles are welcome, of course.

[Mr. Flay]

More like MicroJEEP...

[Mr. Flay]

Also, of the past 6 years you are sure to have had phases with less activity. Unless you intend on giving up on the Wiki completely is it entirely necessary?

No, good point, I'm not giving up. More like "I don't know when I'll have time to focus on it, but I'll always try to keep my hand in."

I'm personally still happy with it encompassing what was a very large part of your history, and a huge element of you being awesome. However, primary concern is that you feel it fits. I'm happy for it to change, but would you have an issue with holding onto it so that we didn't have to go through Mafia Scum and then back to a custom (although with the new system that would be so much easier!)?

Regardless, my personal feelings are that I like WiKid, so I'm out of the guessing game until I can think of something I like as much as that.

I'm perfectly happy keeping it, it's just kinda embarassing how little I get on the wiki to edit these days. But until/unless something better is suggested (and I'm not fishing), I'm fine with WiKid.

[Mr. Flay]

No ones ever said someone needed a title but didn't have a title idea?

That's not what he said; he said he's never seen a

good

title come out of that approach.

Titles should be so distinctive and obvious that they drive the scummer to this thread, not vice versa.

[Mr. Flay]

Nominate VRK for

Virginia's Trump

for this exchange.

[Mr. Flay]

North Carolina's Trump doesn't flow very well, does it?

Nah, but

Trump of the Carolinas

isn't bad. I just think your associations with VA are stronger...

[Mr. Flay]

Try now, Oman.

[Mr. Flay]

because they're bad.

[Mr. Flay]

I agree with Serachaz. This just rewards his annoying habit.

[Mr. Flay]

/in b4 Oman abuses his power on both of you

[Mr. Flay]

Let me be clearer: TAKE IT TO ANOTHER THREAD.

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[Mr. Flay]

I agree with the cow.

[Mr. Flay]

I have a really, terrible, probably inappropriate suggestion for Brandi:

Get Off My Ass!

[Mr. Flay]

It's

subtle

, damnit.

[Mr. Flay]

Don't love it, but I can live with it.

So is Brandi's post considered declining my nom, or are we considering it further? Also, remind me at some point I need to figure out how to let you do your own titles...

[Mr. Flay]

yabba is correct - sorry, I should have quoted or addressed the post better.

[Mr. Flay]

I think it's funny but not good for a title, I mean... because of the association is not something I'm really proud of, and it's not just something that's simply embarrassing, it gives me a lot of bad memories as well <_<;

Fair enough - I probably should have asked the followup question about it by PM.

Rescinded, then.

[Mr. Flay]

But tell the story first, Flay/Brandi. Some of us (me) aren't in on the joke.

Which I'm fairly sure is the way Brandi wants it; she can share if she wants.

[Mr. Flay]

Okay, HTML is re-enabled for titles. Obviously this isn't license to go hog wild with suggestions, but at least the old ones are fixed.

[Mr. Flay]

If you don't know, don't worry about it.

[Mr. Flay]

:HAPPY: is done for Fate.
VRK is done.
Best Performance Mafia image added to CKD, vollkan, and Goatrevolt.
Best Performance Town image added to Empking, KMD, and GIEFF.

I still need to get around to adding all the Most Enjoyable Game images, but other than that I think we're caught up.

[Mr. Flay]

Not bbcode yet, just HTML. Not ideal, so still working on it.

[Mr. Flay]

No.

[Mr. Flay]

Yeha, Joohoohno's strikes me as weaksauce (I didn't even notice that trend in the game we were last in together, and the parallel syntax is deestraaactiing).

[Mr. Flay]

I actually think

Black Ops

is better for Hero... he had to both help run the game, and help defeat his own side, like a spy.

Envied

is... okay.

[Mr. Flay]

Titles based on usernames (especially username puns) or avatars are not recommended.

[Mr. Flay]

Oman, can you clarify the format of the first post? I feel like there's stuff there that can be taken off, but I don't have time to go through the list at present.

[Mr. Flay]

I don't get the SocioPath thing. Is it about his posting style? I'm not thrilled with the rash of these lately (Fate, etc).

[Mr. Flay]

It's just not obvious how to do it yet, and it's backburnered for now while some other more pressing stuff gets accomplished. It's still on my radar (though I should officially add it to the list, that would help).

[Mr. Flay]

ZONEFACE's current one is better.

Sikario8 getting Townsperson I could see, but the other stuff is just superfluous.

[Mr. Flay]

The titlee always gets veto power, Drench. Move on.

[Mr. Flay]

Yes.

[Mr. Flay]

I'm tempted to bin the last 8-10 posts entirely. Seriously, not the place, guys.

[Mr. Flay]

Hansel

is pretty good, actually; I'd support that.

[Mr. Flay]

For Andrius: how about

Hansel

?

You know, Hansel and Gretel...

Yeah cause I totally didn't suggest that a page and a half ago

I think it got swamped by the awesomeness that was the graphic in your following post... I didn't remember it. (Also, when I did read back over it, I thought you were literally suggesting "Hansel and/or Gretel", not "Hansel" and/or "Gretel. *shrug*

[Mr. Flay]

Got it, thanks Rosso.

Oman: First post should be done, including MacavityLock.

[Mr. Flay]

Oman: First post should be done, including MacavityLock.

Cheers mate. Any progression on getting me the ability to take that off your hands?

Progress? You're funny, I just got back in town. Give me another month or two... at the rate you're collecting titles, it's easier to do them right now than rewrite the page that allows you to do them.

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah. This is going to get ugly. I can feel it.

Agreed. This REALLY isn't the thread for

"But Mooooooom! X got a title, and he's soooooooo much worse!!!"

[Mr. Flay]

MeMe's hell on lurkers (or was, when she had time to play).

[Mr. Flay]

Makes perfect sense to me, Oman.

[Mr. Flay]

I prefer

Brings Out The Flavor

tbh.

This has a nice ring to it.

QFT.

[Mr. Flay]

Eh. Not feeling it...

[Mr. Flay]

We need Oman to make a ruling, but I think everyone but RC likes BOTF...

[Mr. Flay]

Zaphod is kind of hysterical, but I can't help feeling like there's something better.

Maybe

President of his own Minds

, to highlight his sometime indecisive sureness?

[Mr. Flay]

Whoof, that's a heck of a stretch, Baltar.

[Mr. Flay]

SaintKerrigan's title is done.

VRK's has been done for a while, Oman.

[Mr. Flay]

FWIW, I think you made the right call as well, Oman. You've been an excellent TF thus far (not that Thok wasn't).

[Mr. Flay]

Trufax.

Sorry for the hijack, Oman

[Mr. Flay]

2009 Scummies cleared from titles/ranks. If I nuked anybody's title accidentally in the process, let me know.

[Mr. Flay]

Neither of those is on the Titles list on the wiki - can you link me to where they were given?

[Mr. Flay]

I'm not sure where it was given, but mykonian's was just the text from his banner ("Best Role Claim").

That's not a title, then, it's part of the Scummy. If you don't have a custom title, it gives you the name of the image. If you have a custom title, we attach the image to the title temporarily.

[Mr. Flay]

I actually discovered today how to see everyone with a custom title (this link might be inexact in the future): http://mafiascum.net/forum/memberlist.p ... &sk=m&sd=d

Crossreferencing that with the Titles page on the wiki should help fill in the gaps.

And yes, I think Vi's accidental title is weirdly appropriate after all, but it's Oman's call, not mine.

[Mr. Flay]

Nominate Vi for Professor Paragon.

It was both appropriate and humorous all along.

Second.

Third.

N'th

but maybe add '09 to the end of it so as to not get confused with whoever gets it this year?

If we get one player who wins both awards this year, sure.

It came about because Vi won both awards in 09 - the image was called Professor Paragon, so it changed his title. It IS possible to win both in the future, but the chances are fairly low, and we can just name the other one something different.

Oman, I was waiting for your approval. I'm not going to restore it automagically since technically it was just a Scummy title, not a TF title.

[Mr. Flay]

I'm all for it, Vi has expressed interest, and there hasn't been any massive objection (nor can I expect one).

I'm happy for it to be restored.

Done.

[Mr. Flay]

Ugh.

Mr. Mxyzptlk

? He's kind of messing with the players' minds and the capes' lives...

[Mr. Flay]

Maybe it's just me, but the real reason we seem to have less titles given out since Thokreign started is that there's fewer

legitimate

titles being suggested. So much of Thok's threads (and now, this one) are metabitching about titles, players, or the Title Fairy. *yawn*

[Mr. Flay]

Richard is right. Stop being jackasses people, this isn't Forum 62.

[Mr. Flay]

Also, Mrs. Hogan is a reference to another player, from a one-off comment. Not a good basis for a title at all.

[Mr. Flay]

I'm not arguing with her quality of play; I'm saying that titles that are predicated on an (abstracted) connection to another player are usually weak.

[Mr. Flay]

I agree some of them are getting off base, but people are just spitballing. It seems to me you don't like the Hogan base at all. That's fine. I'm just saying repeating yourself about it isn't proving your dislike of it anymore than the previous posts where you said the same thing.

Spitballing often gets this reaction. It's probably because many people think brainstorming for a title is subpar.

[Mr. Flay]

Title thread, not Teenager thread, guys. Try to stay on topic.

FWIW, I like That Damn Good (better with caps IMO, but fine either way) for sotty.

[Mr. Flay]

This is titles, not maths.

[Mr. Flay]

You all suck at

reading

.

[Mr. Flay]

No.

I actually kinda like HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR.

[Mr. Flay]

I actually kinda like HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR.

I'm just not sure what makes that stand out as "yeah, that's Percy".
HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR seems a bit too bland to me.

I think I just don't like the crudeness of the "flavour" part. It's too easy.