maybe rvs should end here and now.
for the obvious reasons of trying to pack in an FoS on his scumbuddy(i'm looking at you confid), a bandwagon vote(primate), a lame attempt at buddying me, and an AtE(smilie) all in one tiny post.
discuss.
actually, 11 players alive, 10 after the lynch.OpposedForce wrote:
I agree with hider not claiming for the stated above reasons because there is a chance of 2/10 of actually hitting scum (excluding the hider himself).
yes. i am accusing him of a suspect rvs vote. i am moving the game forward.guy0 wrote:Here you accuse Sleeplessdon_johnson wrote:did anyone notice we've already lost a town powerole?
maybe rvs should end here and now.
vote: sleepless assasin
for the obvious reasons of trying to pack in an FoS on his scumbuddy(i'm looking at you confid), a bandwagon vote(primate), a lame attempt at buddying me, and an AtE(smilie) all in one tiny post.
discuss.
no. i asked you a question. it was a bit rhetorical, but its still a question. you said you are trying to move discussion forward. and then you ended the post.guy0 wrote:Here you accuse me with 8 words and no backingdon_johnson wrote:really? isguy0 wrote: What I'm trying to do is move the discussion forward so that scumhunting can actually beginthatwhat you're trying to do?
vote count isn't mine. and no. it wasn't obvious. i was correcting the incorrect math posted by OF. after a lynch, the player number will be down to 9, not 10. i finished school and have a week before i am back to work full time. i check in on ms frequently when i am around my computer. post 58 and 59 are just a minute apart, and just over an hour after post 56. does that make you "anxious"?guy0 wrote:Here, after an incorrect informal vote count, you state the obvious followed by a repetition of the accusation on me. I might add that this post was made 4 hours after your last one. Are you too anxious and need to stay on this site all day?don_johnson wrote:
actually, 11 players alive, 10 after the lynch.OpposedForce wrote:
I agree with hider not claiming for the stated above reasons because there is a chance of 2/10 of actually hitting scum (excluding the hider himself).
scum lynch: 2/9 chance of hider dieing with no benefit.
town lynch: 3/9 chance of hider dieing with no benefit.
but i'm not going to argue this anymore. the watchers do add a variable which i can't calculate. let's get some more SA votes.
guy0: how's that "moving the discussion forward" thing workin' out for ya?
theres a reason the game has more townies than scum. cracking a few eggs is how omelettes are made. also, everyone seems to be ignoring the dynamic aspects of the game. would you like me to continue to flesh out my thought process? i was under the impression that you didn't want to haveguy0 wrote:In terms of other things you’ve said that bother me that are not related to random accusations.Here you ask hider to claim and verbalize their target, this netting a two for one NK for scum, bad idea of course.don_johnson wrote:okay. don't freak out. but.
at some point before the end of the day our hider should claim. DO NOT CLAIM YET. it is my understanding of the role that hider dies if they hide behind scum, no? so better to be out in the open and verbalizing targets. agree/disagree?
if you don't want to talk about it, then stop.guy0 wrote:Obviously discussing the hider is not an unimportant thing, but it was discussed ENOUGH for the time being. There is no need to continue harping on something that we all understand needs to be discussed more when it becomes more relevant (ie when the hider chooses to claim for whatever reason, or it becomes apparent that the hider needs to claim as per the wanting of the masses etc etc).don_johnson wrote:i must be an idiot.
i thought i was engaging in discussion. apparently i am "pointing fingers"? you can clarify that at any point in time.
imo, how to get the most use out of our hider is not a "trivial matter". the game may very well hinge on it. but i digress, as you say you'd rather talk about something else. so, what do you want to talk about? howsabout you flesh out this "finger pointing" thing?
again. show me the "finger pointing". if your definition of "finger pointing" is the same as "voting", then i am guilty. so by "finger pointing", did you mean voting? and by "people", did you mean "SA"?guy0 wrote:You continue to use sarcasm afterwards for some reason I cannot fathom and then ask me to re-explain that which I just mentioned a few posts ago, and use quotes around finger pointing for …. Ummm …. Dramatic effect? I don’t know.
quotes are used to avoid miscommunication. by putting quotes around the term that you used to describe my actions, we can avoid pointless discussions of misrepresentation. i.e. the quotes are there to show that that is the exact wording you used. my issue is that i don't think my actions can be described as "fingerpointing". so i want you to clarify exactly what that means. as of 58, i don't feel like you're explaining it well at all.guy0 wrote:You continue to use sarcasm afterwards for some reason I cannot fathom and then ask me to re-explain that which I just mentioned a few posts ago, and use quotes around finger pointing for …. Ummm …. Dramatic effect? I don’t know
not just now. i am pretty sure "no responses" is always going to be defined as "silence". do you enjoy arguing semantics?guy wrote:So 20 hours of no responses is considered silence now?
why not?primate wrote:I don't think silence at -3 or competing bandwagons this early are good things.
i think we are speaking on tangent planes. silence itself is not "good", but in my experience scum will often respond to pressure with avoidance. hence, the fact that two players were ignoring the pressure raises the odds that at least one of them is scum. however, i was unaware of pom's v/la, and as guy has used in his defense, time is relative. so we'll have to see.primate wrote:That said, I'm not sure why you consider the silence a good thing over activity, mind if I ask you why that is?
with this i wholeheartedly disagree i think competing wagons are good, and i think speed is a detriment. now, there does come a time when a day can be "too long", but we're on page four so i don't see a problem with the game being slowed. tbh, i don't even agree that competing wagons "slow" the game. but now we're talking theory and semantics. in any case. i think we disagree, but i don't think its relevant.primate wrote:Competing wagons make for slower games without the big single topic for everyone to debate about, and whilst they debatedly give more info I think the speed is more of an asset.
^^ this. 100%.Thief wrote:
Guy you said you want to hear from Pom but besides her you would vote Primate. I looked in your ISO and I see no reason for you to be suspicious of Primate.
Guy's latest post is also game-theory fluffiness.
so you put someone at L-1 and asked for a claim... for pressure?Chronopie wrote:Yes I do place pressure-claim votes fairly often. Pressure votes are separate from lynch votes. Pressure is placed on someone under some suspicion, lynch is on someone I'm fairly sure is scum.
I would have left it as a lynch vote if I were unhappy with the claim, given Iso. But Hider makes sense given iso, thus the unvote.
i don't think i've actually played a game with just you. you were under the avvy "plumegranate" if memory serves. i have played with plum and i obviously can't be sure you're not the same person, but as i understand it the two of you are rommates. in any case, when we did play(and i don't remember replacing out) your posts were much longer and thought out, though i could be confusing you with plum(if she even exists).Pomegranate wrote:don_johnson wrote:i want to do a full reread in the morning. i'm kind of along the lines where guy-o is going and i started to iso empking, but his posts need to be read in context. i want to look at bp as well. pom's avoidance here is noted. i don't remember her being a "one-line" poster.Howmuch meta do you have on me? We played about one game together, IIRC and you replaced out. I just can't remember what game it was.
plum is the "older" sister. joined almost a year before pom. hence, more experience. null tell at best, but in reading the post in question i would like to know why you "don't think scum would make that post." claiming "damned if i do, damned if i don't" is an excellent strategy for scum.Beloved Princess wrote:Basically, I really like the post that Plum made when she was pretending to be Pomegranate. I don't think that scum would make that post.
Or maybe I'm just confusing the warm and fuzzy feelings of love with the warm and fuzzy feelings of towniness.