Open 203: C/9 Mafia Wins!

[Lowell]

vote scott

[Lowell]

vote scott

vote: Lowell

If you get you d1 lynched in both of our games, will you give me a dollar?

How about a dollar for a complete, coherent sentence.

[Lowell]

unvote

vote scott

There. Now I'm third. Geez.

[Lowell]

unvote, vote max

. I'm squarely with the penguin on this one. Max is being more meta than helpful. The meaningless questions, the one-liners. I'll take a pass on it.

[Lowell]

@max- I'm trying to insinuate that you're PRETENDING to be more helpful than I. I dont' particularly think I've done anything world-beating, but it's only page 3.

[Lowell]

okay so then let's vote max. this game is in danger of dying.

[Lowell]

Prod avoidance. Sorry.

Jacob gets hilarious town points for the page 4 random vote. WIFOM all you want, but I seriously dont' see scum being that hilarious.

[Lowell]

It's page 5. I promise you nothing important has happened. Folks need to relax.

unvote, vote kunk

. Hard to say. There's something about the -lurk lurk lurk lurk lurk JUMP IN TO DEFEND SOMEONE ELSE lurk lurk- formula that erks me, especially when it includes asking questions that he couldn't possibly care less about the answer to.

[Lowell]

@kunk- Post 115 is nothing more than filler and a way to keep people who aren't you talking about more people who aren't you.

[Lowell]

@tate- no worries. people always go after me when they're scared and don't know what else to do. I wouldn't worry about it, though, I'm good at weaseling my way out. I'm de facto unlynchable.

[Lowell]

I was kidding. I always get f-ing lynched. Quit it.

[Lowell]

So anyone other than gayle and fifi here? Let's get this game moving.

The kunk wagon could use some support, or someone give me something else to do.

[Lowell]

I was about to jump on the wdjat wagon but some sketchy people have beat me to it. Hard to say why, but 149 really rubs me the wrong way, as does much of the tone wdjat has taken here. Questions like "what would my flipping scum reveal to you?" are really not helpful. Call it "defense by diversion" if you will.

[Lowell]

unvote, vote danakillsu

. Change of plans, I think some pressure is due here.

The quotes wjat brings up are good, particularly the strange reaction to pressure. I'm also not thrilled with the wjat wagon. It seems like just a lot of people congratulating themselves on their votes. At least wjat looks like he's trying.

[Lowell]

Can you buddy him a little less obvious, please?

Then how would you know that I'm buddying if I did?

[Lowell]

Hewitt is hilariously town with a hilarious meta on me (and by the way, I

am

more useful than person X), but wrong to vote me, as ever.

Enter the most unbelieveable claim ever. I'm a

cop

. I meant to claim this earlier, but had no idea I was so near a lynch, and was holding out in case there's no doc to protect me.

That said, it's a little annoying, this case on me. Other than I lurk, does anyone really have a problem with how I've played?

[Lowell]

Can I say that kyle is still scum so even though he's being replaced we can lynch him now still.

wow =O

Unvote Vote Max

I guess I actually don't understand the dramatic reaction here.

[Lowell]

No, dana is right. At least one of us isn't scum.

[Lowell]

Prod received. I'm back. Looking over the kyle wagon. Is there a deadline here?

[Lowell]

A lot of hewitt's posts lately are about how much he loves me. I can do without the buddying, thanks.

[Lowell]

Now that I think of it, what does jacob do? Besides show up for comments like this ^^^?

[Lowell]

I'm not going to reveal what I have unless needed. If I had a guilty I'd tell you.

Otherwise I agree with following kunk's lead.

[Lowell]

yeah I dont' think dana is crazy for being upset about the non-reveal. But yeah, he is obviously wrong. But seriously, people, I'm not that twitchy that you all need to jump down his throat about it.

I advocate the "if I'm a cop, I investigated X" format kunk outlined. Particularly in this game with an unknown number of cops, it could be hugely effective. Mafia wont' get much from it (maybe one or two people accidently claim they investigated mafia, but that's not a huge loss). The difference between unknown roles claiming investigations and a "claimed cop" (<---for dana's sake) claiming investigations is that the latter sentences someone to death (PARTICULARLY since scum didn't attack me tonight).

Also, dana, how would me revealing my innocent clear me? Wouldn't I know who the innocents are if I'm scum? It's much better to let things play out until the end of the day. Or close to it.

Truthfully, though, I get townish vibes from dana's anger. Scum would have thought this through better. Call that WIFOM if you want, but I think it's valid.

[Lowell]

Kunk's right about this. But it likely won't be a big deal. Clearly mafia had a reason for not targetting me last night (probably they assume a doc), so there's at least one person between any other "outed" cops and a NK.

[Lowell]

vote the1fiffi

Lest this game die. The fact of his absence doesn't exactly prove he's town in my book.

[Lowell]

I will. Suffice it to say it ain't fiffi.

[Lowell]

Aight screw it. KUNK is my investigation, he's innocent.

[Lowell]

For some reason jacob doesn't look that bad to me. Couldn't really say why atm.

[Lowell]

Yeah I'll give the new guy the benefit of the doubt for actually trying.

unvote, vote dana

[Lowell]

No prod needed. I'm still here.

[Lowell]

^^^ scummy

[Lowell]

As before, I'll reveal closer to the end of the day. I don't want people getting lazy.

And thanks to whoever protected me (yes, I assume that's what happened).

[Lowell]

Why thank you *tips hat*

Now as lowell is not revealing his result, his wording makes me think it is a guility? Or not...
But now I say If Lowell is scum, the scum nk, to make it seem like a doc save?
If he is town, either the Doc went elsewhere and got luckly or the mafia went for Lowell.
Or both mafia didn't send in the kill?

No no, sorry. I should have clarified. If it were guilty I would save you all the trouble and reveal straight away.

[Lowell]

I really don't understand the problem here. Imagine I said "I investigated player X".... then what? So just go about your business telling us your suspicions.

[Lowell]

I disagree with the idea of massclaim (not sure what that does). But yes, if there's another cop out there I don't see the harm in claiming. It's clear to me that there's a doc, and that s/he protected me last night. I find it unlikely scum would go for me instead of kunk.

[Lowell]

I do think it would be nice to find any other cops there might be at this point. Between us we can probably clear most of the field, and it gives time to check out the results, preventing a scum "cop" claim later on.

[Lowell]

I'm just going to ignore az for awhile.

[Lowell]

@az- there being one cop has ABSOLUTELY nothign to do with there being two cops. Your argument is meaningless.

@lobster- okay hotshot, lay it on me. Let's hear these secret reasons of yours.

[Lowell]

So what exactly happens here? You lynch me or out the doc? That's really the best we can do?

[Lowell]

vote hewitt

Well this game is dying. Here's one of the worst offenders.

[Lowell]

meh. doesn't seem to be much hope of reviving.

[Lowell]

Well it's a start for activity, but you're barking up the wrong tree.

[Lowell]

1) Maybe a doctor

did

protect me.

2) Scum thought a doctor would be protecting me.

3) Scum wanted to set up a "hey Lowell didn't die!" situation, getting the town to do their work for them.

Take your pick.

[Lowell]

3 is unlikely, not impossible. 1 and 2 are both very very possible.

[Lowell]

There's some idiocy going on here.

[Lowell]

I'm officially declaring myself abandoning this game. We've waited too long, nothing is happening.

[Lowell]

You'd be wrong.

So is this over or what? I'm kind of curious.

[Lowell]

My theory is no one is going to come forward and say "I was scum!" until something something happens and this is offically abandoned.

[Lowell]

I'm in too. Sent my info to farside.

[Lowell]

azelf is town.

I literally do not remember why I chose him, but probably because I didnt' think he'd die.

[Lowell]

Okay I'm dead. Quickly while twilight.

I'm vanilla town. Whine and roll your eyes all you want, but it's better to NOT die if you're about to be lynched and town (as I was D1).

Some things:

Pretty sure azelf is town. Were he scum, he'd have unvoted when he realized I wasn't telling the truth and let the town continue to believe I was a cop.

Pretty sure my N1 "investigation" was town, too. I believe I was targetted by scum and protected by a doc, which again wouldn't have happened if I chose wrong with my first reveal.

Nacho was looking for support to cast the hammer vote. Look hard at him for scum.

Sorry, folks. But good luck to you, I think there's plenty of leads.

[Lowell]

heh, cute.

No but seriously, you folks wanted new life in the game, right?

And seriously, I'm right about this. The format negates the possibility of counterclaims, so my claim wasnt' going to compromise "real PRs".

[Lowell]

Nah I'm right.

[Lowell]

Thank god I'm back. This time I'm unlynchable. Promise.

[Lowell]

No, I wont' be answering for any of LowellI's actions. That guy sucks.

[Lowell]

kunk is almost certainly town.

No one died one night after LowellI fakeclaimed cop with kunk innocent, which makes me think someone targeted (probably) LowellI or (maybe) kunk and was blocked. If kunk was really scum, he would have KNOWN that LowellI was fakeclaiming and probably not been so gloaty about his being "discovered" to be innocent. If it were me in kunkscum's shoes, I would have (a) been confused as hell, (b) been happy as hell, and (c) done EVERYTHING to avoid calling attention to the relationship between the two of them.

[Lowell]

Lowell Mark II, I disagree with your reasoning. If I was kunkscum, I definitely would've no-killed (to lend credence to your claim), and then buddied up with you like none other so when I went down, I could carry you with me.

I believe that Azelf is town but that doesn't really have anything to do with the investigation result on him.

Yeah we're not going to know I guess unless someone claims doc. Which by the way I recommend (OMG OMG SOOOO SCUMMY) because docs are useless anyway.

[Lowell]

This game was much more interesting when I was faking being a cop.

[Lowell]

unvote, vote jacob

HAMMER!!! (unless i was already voting him)

I have literally no opinions. This game is boring. If I'm alive tomorrow I'll decide what to do.

[Lowell]

I can't wait to replace again...