Elements Mafia (Over)

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PARAMA YOU SHUT THE HELL UP RIGHT NOW
WE AREN'T LYNCHING KATSUKI

VOTE PARAMA

FOR BEING DUMB

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PEOPLE I WOULD AUTOLYNCH RIGHT NOW

Chronopie
gandalf
muh316
vezokpiraka

WHY DO DRAM'S GAMES ALWAYS ATTRACT THE WORST VIs WTF

At first when I checked this topic, CooLDoG was listed as a player, and I was about to go the fuck off.

PS, I am very familiar with the flavor for this game, I fucking love Elements. Dram & I spent about a full month doing nothing but playing Elements every single day. There are no particularly "bad" elements, so I don't think a flavor claim would be beneficial, just FYI before someone suggests it. It wouldn't hurt anything, but it wouldn't help anything, either.

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For the record, here's a list of the Elements in the game:

Time
Water
Air
Light
Darkness
Life
Gravity
Death
Earth
Fire
Entropy
Aether

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I AM DISAPPOINTED BY THE LACK OF ACTIVITY.

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KATS POST PLEASE

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Who can get the most quanta?
Well, it's obviously life, freaking photosynthesis with bioluminescence...

ANYWAYS!

... What's the 13th element anyways?

I'm thinking this is some kind of flavor clue. Dram probably didn't/can't create a 13th element if he's trying to use flavor from Elements only, and I doubt he made a card the thirteenth role, so IMO (random flavor speculation incoming) he might've used one of the False Gods from the game as a role, in which case, they're probably a third party SK or something like that. (/random flavor speculation)

HMMMMMMMMMMMM.

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Exactly.

Given what I've said about the flavor, does anyone think having the 13th role claim would be a good idea?

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The following is the list of False Gods.

* Chaos Lord
* Dark Matter
* Decay
* Destiny
* Divine Glory
* Dream Catcher
* Elidnis
* Eternal Phoenix
* Ferox
* Fire Queen
* Gemini
* Graviton
* Hermes
* Incarnate
* Miracle
* Morte
* Neptune
* Obliterator
* Octane
* Osiris
* Paradox
* Rainbow
* Scorpio
* Seism

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And yes, I realize random flavor speculation isn't incredibly helpful, but it's a good way to generate discussion.

PEDIT: Yes, if there is a miller, he needs to claim in his first post.

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Okay then.

Parama isn't scum. Good to know.

Neither is chesskid.

WOO MAKIN' PROGRESS

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Seriously, I should've cleared at least half the playerlist by now.

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Hello everyone, my name is muh316 and I am here to play mafia. Lets get right to it.

We've been playing for 20-something posts already, kith.

How am I an obvious lynch? I haven't really played with any of these players so I know nothing about them.

chesskid3
Chronopie
katsuki
vezokpiraka

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You're an obvious lynch because from what I remember, you're terrible. Katsuki is not, but the rest of the list is.

So just a question I would like everyone to answer.

What is your experience with mafia?
Tell us something important about yourself

No fucking RQS. This is the lamest attempt to appear helpful ever. Scumdar pinging.

My answer is...

I have been in 15+ games.
Just to let everyone know my game play has improved as I have aged. I'm a better player.
If you want to meta me my most recent game ended with me losing as scum so that should be an interesting find for some of you.

Great, none of that really matt--

Wait.

Wait a FUCKING SECOND.

If you want to meta me my most recent game ended with me losing as scum so that should be an interesting find for some of you.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA BEST SCUMSLIP EVER

Checking in from friends phone busy running show tonight wont be able to post until tomorrow
hi reck im glad youre town this game

I'm glad I am too.
Not sure about you yet.

However, muh316 has just made this process much easier.

Vote: muh316

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kith should be kthx, lol keyboard

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Why would we be interested in reading your scum meta, let alone losing scum meta?

Because you're scum in this game, lol m i rite

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That's the only thing you responded to, rofl

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THX PARAMA

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YOU MAKE ME PROUD MAH BOY

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I really don't care if muh is scum or not. He needs to die before he causes problems.

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oshit rite

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lol

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OKAY, NOW THAT IVE LOOKED AT MY ROLE

VIGS, I KNOW I LOOK LIKE A REALLY JUICY TARGET, BUT IF YOU FEEL THE URGE, JUST TELL ME AND ILL KILL MYSELF

NO REALLY

IM SERIOUS

WELCOME TO THE SIDE OF THE TOWN

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Gandalf is not smart enough to pull that off as scum.

FACT

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Nobody else vote until chesskid has a chance to claim what his results were.

I'm getting townish vibes from everyone so far. Also severely disappointed by lack of QUICKSPAM in a dram game.

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SOMEONE FUCKING PROD CHRONOPIE

Also, Plum, <3

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Vezok you fucking wait like a good little shithead.

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LOLOL EXE ARE YOU STILL SOUR ABOUT FATEMAFIACHRONO?

RECK ARE WE GOING TO BE INCLUDING CHESS IN THE ALLIANCE?

HE CAN'T EVEN BE CONSIDERED UNTIL HE REVEALS HIS DAMN RESULTS

CHESSKID JUST FUCKIN SAY IT

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WHY DO YOU NOT NEED PROTECTION IF YOU'RE ALL INVESTIGATIVE AND SHIT

VOTE: PLUM

DAMMIT HERE I WAS THINKING THE SCUMTEAM WAS GONNA BE ALL VIs
I SWEAR TO GOD IF IT'S LIKE PLUM/PARAMA/KATSUKI I WILL MURDER DRAM

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TOWN SWEEP PLEASE

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HEY DRAM REMEMBER WHEN I DESTROYED YOU IN ELEMENTS WITH MY RAINBOW DECK AND THEN YOU COPIED IT

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FUCKING HAMMER HER
STRUNGOVER IS HER SCUMBUDDY
CONFIRMED

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This is insane.

Plum is caught scum, or chesskid is idiot scum. I think he's a tad smarter than to claim a faulty investigation on a town player, especially after the 'WHO IS MILLER' shenanigans.

LYNCH PLUM NOW.

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Whenever I read Plum's posts, all I can see is FLAILFLAILFLAILFLAIL

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No shit. That's obvious.

SOMEONE HAMMER PLUM PLEASE.

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I don't buy your HE'S NOT SCUM BUT I'M NOT EITHER act. I've seen it done a lot of times before... hell, whenever I have a guilty cop investigation on me and I'm scum, I say pretty much the exact same thing you just said.

Shhh shh now, Plum, we'll make it quick. Let the last few moments be comfortable.

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Occam's Razor.

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I've never gone against a cop result and had bad things happen from it.

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Plum.
Lemme put it this way. If you ARE who you say you ARE... I can help you from beyond the grave.

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Guys.

My role is "Cheater".

The mod gave me a list of all alignments in the game. Just blindly follow me.

LOL RAPERCHARLEE

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K I KNOW WHAT STRUNGOVER'S ROLE IS
HE'S REALLY REALLY TOWN

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OKAY GUYS. CAUGHT SCUM IS CAUGHT.

I'm a

Jack of All Dead Trades

. If someone has died within the previous cycle/phase, I can use their ability. Last night, I used Plum's jailkeep ability to jailkeep muh.

OH LOOKIE HERE, NO KILL?

Now, granted... I found out from getting a list of Plum's abilities that mafia seem to have a kill mechanic similar to Boss Scum from Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time (seriously, dram, how many ideas/mechanics/roles are you gonna steal from our game?). As in, they don't seem to have usual mafia kills.

Anyway, the two abilities I got from Plum were her jailkeep, and her mafia kill, which is that she empowers a player to action twice, but they die after they do so. I figured that was extremely anti-town (empower scum, kill scum... or empower town, kill town) either way, so I went for the jailkeep on someone random.

Muh, you have like one post to gimme the best explanation in the history of explanations.

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PS

Whoever targeted me last night should probably claim,

now

, so I can confirm you. Don't claim role, just claim that you targeted me.

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PARAMA I SWEAR TO GOD
DID YOU REALLY

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YOU TARGETED ME?
STUPID TWAT

GUYS I THINK PARAMA IS SCUM NOW
PARMA/MUH GOGOGO

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But...

Someone targeted me with some kind of disabler ability. SO NOW I'M USELESS THANKS TO PARAMA WTF

HOW IS THAT A PRO TOWN ABILITY

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Hmmmmmmmmm.

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YES DO IT

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I wanna give him a chance to respond first.

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Exe is probscum. Seriously.

I got roleblocked last night. EXTENDED roleblocked that lasts for two phases. THEREFORE EXI IS PROBABLY LYING BECAUSE I GOT THE NOTIFICATION TODAY THAT I WAS ROLEBLOCKED FOR THE NEXT TWO PHASES

Anyway, muh is probably still the lynch today.

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PREVIEW SNIPE

NO PARAMA I AM NOT A LIGHTNING ROD

ffffffuu

dram game/10

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if someone legit has an ENABLER that like gives 2 night actions
I'd like that plz and thanks

Anyway, the two abilities I got from Plum were her jailkeep, and

her mafia kill, which is that she empowers a player to action twice

, but they die after they do so. I figured that was extremely anti-town (empower scum, kill scum... or empower town, kill town) either way, so I went for the jailkeep on someone random.

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Actually hmmm

Given Plum's flip I'd say Exe has good chances of being town unless she's just real real good at fakeclaiming

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OKAY.

GANDALF IS PROB SK OR SOMETHING I DUNNO

MASSCLAIM MAY BE IN ORDER NOW

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Reck, assuming you had no night actions N0, you were targeted by Gandalf, and I have a big long string of people that either targeted you, or that targeted people that targeted you, or targeted those that targeted those etc. etc. for N1. {Parama, Hiraki, Muh, DarkHorse, Exe and Gandalf}

Okay. Gandalf does NOT need to claim given the fact that no bad things happened to me N0 or N1.

muh targeted me? Well, then he's not the roleblocker or disabler or whatever, because I jailkept him, so I'm assuming it wouldn't allow him to roleblock me like that. Whatever, he's getting lynched today anyway unless he pulls an incredible claim out of his ass.

StrungOver didn't target me, so he's okay for now.

Parama being the 13th element... he probably needs to go ahead and claim. And I'd be okay with Hiraki, Exe, and DarkHorse softclaiming or partial claiming.

PS, my element is

Life

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#1) I'd like for NOBODY to target me tonight. I'm dead serious. Randomize your abilities elsewhere, but do not worry about targeting me. If you're wanting to investigate me, I'm obvious-fucking-town, so go elsewhere. If you're wanting to protect me... well, I'm roleblocked for two phases, so I don't think scum are going to be that keen on killing me off when I can't do any damage to them.

#2) "Universe" being the thirteenth element is odd. I'll see how I feel about this later.

#3) I reject vezok's plan on the basis of it won't do any good at this point. I can't use Plum's abilities again, and nobody died on N1, so even if I wasn't extended-roleblocked, I couldn't use a dead person's actions anyway. Though, you can definitely confirm your ability on someone else.

#4) muh not claiming = muh stalling for coaching in his scum QT. Lynch mode activated.

Vote: muh

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Exe is town. But I have to think that if scum have odd kills, that nerfs them a little bit, so there HAS to be some kinda third party here.

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Muh already claimed scum in his last post.

So I'm not the only one who caught that.

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Reck.

I can confirm if Exe is scum.

I am Time and I rewind stuff.
If I target Exe and you get disblocked he is scum. If not he isn't the one that roleblocked you.

Agree with that plan?

Or if you think I just cancel something else it's ok.

JUST HAD AN IDEA

If there's a vig, he should claim now.
We can no-lynch, have the vig shoot muh, then have vezok rewind the vig to confirm his ability.
Plus, then we'd have a night of free actions, and a surefire scumlynch the next day. It's like giving us a free night to do something with.
Whoever is the roleblocker needs to block muh though.

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Hammer away. Motivator/enabler/scum enabler? No way.

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Reck.

I can confirm if Exe is scum.

I am Time and I rewind stuff.
If I target Exe and you get disblocked he is scum. If not he isn't the one that roleblocked you.

Agree with that plan?

Or if you think I just cancel something else it's ok.

unvote
vote muh

I was sure I did that 2 days ago. Oh well. Better late than never.

This is vezok trying to defend muh who was obvscum.
Are we going to let that one go?

Parama who are the four "confirmed" townies.
Second kill makes me nervous.

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Hiraki you didnt need to claim cuz i cleared u

Yeah let's unvote Hiraki now k?

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Who is innocent? Parama, or Exe?

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vezok is your ability a day action?

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Dram confirmed that I can use my ability on gandalf.

So if he really sacrificed I can revive him.

I'll do this two days later (RL days) if no one has objections.

Why are you waiting?

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N0, chesskid got a guilty on Plum
N1, he got an innocent on Hiraki.

I'm pretty much confirmed now, given the fact I jailkept muh and there was no kill that night.

Confirmed town: me, Hiraki

Chronopie's stalker claim fits with the other claims, so I'm more than willing to consider him confirmed town.

Confirmed town: me, Hiraki, Chronopie

StrungOver claimed action-immunizer, which fits with why I wasn't redirected when gandalf targeted me? Not sure the extent of gandalf's abilities, but it seems to fit well for now.

Confirmed town: me, Hiraki, Chronopie; Mostly confirmed town: StrungOver

Dark Horse delayed me with his delayed-roleblocker ability. So at least we know he is telling the truth about his ability. If someone can confirm that they were roleblocked last night, that clears Dark Horse.

Confirmed town: me, Hiraki, Chronopie; Mostly confirmed town: StrungOver, Dark Horse

Parama claimed some weird turning-investigations-into-protections ability. He did SOMETHING last night to cause Chronopie to get a result on his target, so he's clear of the kill for last night.

Confirmed town: me, Hiraki, Chronopie, Parama; Mostly confirmed town: StrungOver, Dark Horse

Katsuki never claimed. We need a full claim with actions from him.

Confirmed town: me, Hiraki, Chronopie, Parama; Mostly confirmed town: StrungOver, Dark Horse
Possible scum: Katsuki

Exe's enabler claim pretty much guarantees he's town, because no way would scum have two enabler abilities. I'd like to hear a full claim of his other ability, though.

Vezokpiraka's ability is a rewind, but he can only use it during the day, meaning he's free to have committed the kill overnight.

Confirmed town: me, Hiraki, Chronopie, Parama; Mostly confirmed town: StrungOver, Dark Horse, Exe
Possible scum: Katsuki, vezokpiraka

It's pretty simple, here. Katsuki full claims, then we lynch either him or vezokpiraka, and one of them has to be scum.

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Of course my list denies any bastardly tactics by the mod, or Hiraki being investigation immune. But it seems pretty solid.

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vezok definitely seems more like scum in this position. Even if he does rewind, I'll probably still end up lynching him. It took him too long to get onboard the LET'S LYNCH MUH wagon yesterday.

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Vote: vezokpiraka

This game is over, anyway.

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DH who did you target last night?

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Oh, he only roleblocked once.

Well, DH isn't clear. He's ability-clear, but not scum-clear.

Still, vezok is clearly the lynch for today. I don't care if someone wants to hammer him now.

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If vezok is scum we won't have to.

If he is, then... I don't know, I can use one of the dead powers... I'll investigate Katsuki.

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Parama is clear. I used Chess' ability last night on Parama. I got a guilty, which should mean Innocent.

I'm Aether. I'm a Doc or I'm able to use another player's ability.

This is too close to my ability.

If vezok isn't scum I'm coming after you.

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Not as scum, but as some kind of modified SK.

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Parama is probslyncher imo

No way did dram make a setup with only three scum and ten town. There's a third party out there somewhere, be it SK or lyncher or whatever.

Also 90% of these roles are recycled from OoT, BAD DRAM BAD

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ooooh good point

You shall kill one of the players not on my GUARANTEEDTOBETOWN list

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Dram talked a bit with me about the setup before bed. It was swingy, yes, but scum apparently failed to submit actions. Ever.

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Holy crap.

We used my kill the first day but I wasn't able to make 13 posts so I can get someone killed.

The second night we tried using muh's kill that got roleblocked and was also a fail kill.

Third night I thought I can only use ability so I didn't use my kill so I would be able to use my rewind.

So basically you failed your scumteam by lurking?

Cool. Good job.

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Plum getting killed did cripple you... but you guys barely playing and never really being on the same page (I mean, only submitting TWO actions the entire game!?) is what actually killed you. Had you guys been more active, it might not have been such a massacre. If vezok's kill had actually gone through on D1, who knows? Maybe it would've killed me and I wouldn't have caught muh, or maybe it woulda killed another role before so many town could be cleared.

I still think the setup was a bit too swingy (and a bit too recycled from OoT, but I'll leave that one out for now). I barely got to participate: I used my dead JOAT ability once, got roleblocked the next night/day, then we lynched final scum pretty quickly. I'm not complaining, a win's a win, but this game wasn't the typical OMG FUN FUN FUN feeling that most dram games have.

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Dram, this game really did need some kind of third party in order to make it a little more balanced, in my opinion, dear.