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Post Post #1524 (isolation #0) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:17 pm

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Oh hai.

So what are we doing?
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Post Post #1526 (isolation #1) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:23 pm

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Hum.

Well lynching us would be a poor choice.

Why are we up for roping? And why is Kise/PP up for roping? (wat's a PP, brb)
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Post Post #1528 (isolation #2) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:13 pm

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Day 1 Lynch wrote:
q21
- 13 (
Snake
,
silavor
, antihero, Nero Cain,
vezokpiraka
, Dramonic,
Haylen
, Mariyta, Tragedy, Reck, GreyICE,
Baby Spice
,
Kcdaspot
)
GreyICE - 4 (Purple Orange, Espeonage, EmpTyger,
Umbrage
)
Kcdaspot
- 3 (Thingyman, DarlaBlueEyes, Llamarble)
Espeonage - 2 (werewolf555,
q21
)
Umbrage
- 1 (PrayPiotr)

Not Voting - 1 (Kise)
Wow look at all them commie reds. I wonder if there's more.


I had to go back and do this again cuz I forgot a vote for one was basically a vote for the other, soooo
Antihero - He was on q21/Umbrage most of the day it seems.
Nero Cain - OMGUS crap vote on Umbrage. Voted because Q21 "makes his head hurt." Lurky lurky scummy turkey.
Dramonic - Hard to tell here. I think this was okay. Agreed with the AtE bit.
Mariyta/Tragedy are town, yay for role PMs
xReckx - I dunno what to think of the AIM business. Reaction would prolly be geniune regardless of alignment. Says Umbrage is town then votes q21 a few votes later?
GreyICE - No problem with what he was doing.


So I'm seeing the Nero/Reck pair as possible scum on the wagon. More on Nero's side that Reck's, but.


Apparently my vote's on Espeonage. What's the story with him.
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Post Post #1533 (isolation #3) » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:29 pm

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I'm already on Espeonage, apparently.

I see some links there with Reck.

pedit
GreyICE wrote:If nothing else because we're 1-1 on mislynches, and I'd rather him not have the score tilt back to me.
lulz

I dunno how much of this I really wanna read because it looks like some seriously stupid shenanigans took place in here at one point.

If there's highlights of something I'm all ears tho.
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Post Post #1546 (isolation #4) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:46 am

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@Grey, thanks for the highlights. The no NK part is a really interesting dynamic. Do we have PRs in this?

P.S. Don't you get tired of being town all the time?
Ashblade wrote:I swear Ice, you and me are following each other now. But we're playing needle in the haystack.
Isn't it weird? Hiraki's here too. I had no idea who was in the game when I requested to replace in, I just saw a large normal needed two people and thought "well hell
that's
probably not gonna happen."

Anyway.

Can you bulletpoint what's wrong with Kise then?
Espeonage wrote:This game would be SOOOOOO much more fun in real life.
That might be true. Anyone know if Tragedy is cute?
Espeonage wrote:That said. In light of recent things. I don't want to lynch Trag/Zito.
What things.

Cuz see you were on the Tragedy wagon which is counter to yours and now there's a Kise wagon that's counter to yours and oh look wagonhop.
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Post Post #1549 (isolation #5) » Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:21 am

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How do we have 16 people alive and this postrate?

This should not be.

Most of you are townies, get posting dammit.
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Post Post #1708 (isolation #6) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:07 pm

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Hai I'm here I need to read this but it's too late now.

Espeonage I'm still curious about your sudden wagon shift explain plz.
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Post Post #1711 (isolation #7) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:30 pm

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Arrite thanks.

I'll read this tomorrow, ya'll posted lots and that's good.
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Post Post #1716 (isolation #8) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:25 pm

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Happy scumday Reck.

(no that's not my only post for today lulz)
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Post Post #1717 (isolation #9) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:59 pm

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HAY DRAMONIC Reck is town y/n?

Wow. How in the hell was werewolf not lynched. Xalxe isn't doing anything either.


Esp
Xalxe
Reck
Antihero


These are all good.
The Grey votes are dumb.
Not seeing the issues with Kise.
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Post Post #1732 (isolation #10) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:11 am

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Ashblade wrote:So can we hang these guys now?
Hang who?
Fluff wrote:So I did some reasearch.

Its dram/xalxe and ash/evil llama
Wryyyyyyyyyy are you trying to put together partners?

There's a lot of partner speculation going on and I don't get it. Can we plz just flip one scum pair and
then
go look for the partner?

If you really think dram is scum why aren't you wagoning Xalxe for being the most useless player slot in the universe?
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Post Post #1734 (isolation #11) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:12 am

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Well I know, I haven't moved from that wagon. I'm trying to see where Ashblade is right now cuz it's not too clear.
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Post Post #1748 (isolation #12) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:32 pm

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DRAM is Reck town y/n?

FLUFF why aren't you wagoning Xalxe?
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Post Post #1751 (isolation #13) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:48 pm

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LlamaFluff wrote:Because dram was scummier of the two.
wat

wat

wat

No seriously wat.

Explain plz.
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Post Post #1758 (isolation #14) » Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:50 am

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LlamaFluff wrote:Xalxe is just lurking
Did you read his predecessor?
Hiraki wrote:WHY ARE YOU NOT BEING LYNCHED.
yah


Votecount would be cool.
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Post Post #1761 (isolation #15) » Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:05 am

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Espeonage - 5 (Papa Zito, Dram, Tragedy, Hiraki, Nero Cain)
Kise - 6 (Llamarble, Purple Orange, Ashblade, GreyICE, Espeonage, xRECKONERx)
Ashblade - 2 (Kise, LlamaFluff)


Not Voting - 3 (Xalxe, antihero, EmpTyger)

9 to lynch.


This is still current.

I'm looking at this and seeing Kise as an Esp counterwagon.
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Post Post #1762 (isolation #16) » Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:07 am

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Also I'm obviously going to have to read Kise since people seem to be convinced of a something something.
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Post Post #1765 (isolation #17) » Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:52 am

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Man those assumptions make me twitch.

Especially when I don't really see Reck as town.

Also you were already on Kise lol?

But competing bandwagons are good yeah and I'm wondering why Kise hasn't jumped yet honestly.


P.S. There's a reason I'm asking dram for his Reck read yes indeedy.
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Post Post #1773 (isolation #18) » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:48 am

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ALL CAPS

dramonic wrote:I would much prefer an Esp lynch over a Kise lynch.

hey llama, am i buddying now?
Hay fluffy owl I asked you for your Reck read plz.
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Post Post #1859 (isolation #19) » Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:27 pm

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I am all for a Xalxe lynch FTR. He's posting all over the damn place EXCEPT HERE HMM.
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Post Post #1862 (isolation #20) » Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:38 pm

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LlamaFluff wrote:
Papa Zito wrote:I am all for a Xalxe lynch FTR. He's posting all over the damn place EXCEPT HERE HMM.
Xalxe is dram partner, join me.
I would but Esp.

(Also Tragedy is the jealous type)
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Post Post #1871 (isolation #21) » Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:12 am

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EmpTyger means he's not L-1 anymore.

Good place to look if Esp flips scum.

But yeah, this has been a really hard wagon to build, so.
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Post Post #1873 (isolation #22) » Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:29 am

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We should flip them before the town's interest level hits absolute 0. Where NOTHING MOVES.
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Post Post #1893 (isolation #23) » Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:50 pm

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LlamaFluff wrote:Told you guys PO was town
Oh this makes me twitch.

But I do want Xalxe burned to the ground.

bluh
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Post Post #1896 (isolation #24) » Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:55 pm

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How can a slot
which has aggressively done fuckall this game
yet merrily posted everywhere else
deserve to live?
Riddle me this, Batman.
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Post Post #1936 (isolation #25) » Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:07 pm

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Nero Cain wrote:
Nero Cain wrote:Got my prod.
GreyICE wrote: DRAM IS TOWN NOW BECAUSE YOU NEED RECK TO LYNCH ME
Maybe its b/c its like 5 in the morning but WHAT?!?
I don't like my questions ignored no matter how trivial and stupid they are.

vote: GI
So this post prompted me to do an ISO read and it came out a lot better than I expected.
SensFan wrote:Fate replaces Xalxe.
Oh lawd.



P.S. Is there a lover list somewhere?
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Post Post #1938 (isolation #26) » Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:13 pm

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Oh sweet thanks Llamarble.
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Post Post #2082 (isolation #27) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:23 pm

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EmpTyger is town what are these votes.

VOTE: dramonic
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Post Post #2104 (isolation #28) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:08 pm

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Tragedy wrote:It's usually empty, the QT, sometimes.
Yes well.

I don't think Tragedy has taken me seriously since I complained about the lack of pillowfights in the QT.

I should probably suggest counseling but.

xRECKONERx wrote:Scum and town list. Now.
k

These are my reads, btw. Given Esp I'm not really willing to sheep Tragedy anymore.


Towned: EmpTyger, Llamafluff
Townishousness: GreyICE, Kise, Llamarble, Nero Cain
Scummionic: Ashblade, Reck, Antihero
Harf: Dramonic, Hiraki


Wut: Fate



I'm ignoring the lover thing for the most part.
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Post Post #2152 (isolation #29) » Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:30 am

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dramonic wrote:Zito's been passive-aggressive towards Xalxe/Fate (AKA me) since he got in and he only now is voting our lover pair, which is odd, but the fact he's trying to jumpstart a wagon instead of leaping on it after its started is town. Though I wouldn't follow it ;)
What exactly are your motivations for voting me PZ, lurking?
Well I don't do the meta thing, as much as Reck would love for us to "clear" you, so lack of is lack of.

I did a pretty hard look at the first couple lynch wagons this game and saw you were a midrange joiner on both. Then I examined your reasons for joining those wagons and found:

1. Your hop onto the q21 wagon was extremely poor. You had the lover pairs confused, and you voted him twice which tells me you didn't even remember where your vote was.
2. Your hop onto Kcdaspot wagon was even worse - In the post where you voted, you talked about several other people and never mentioned Kcda except to note that your town-read on that slot had dramatically changed. But without laying a thought process about
why
it changed, my guess is that this was just a vote of convenience.



Stilllll not getting GreyICE votes btw.
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Post Post #2172 (isolation #30) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:10 pm

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I'm not inclined to vote either one of them.

Out of curiosity, can you plz show the class the links between us and Kise tia. Reminder: Work must be shown for full credit to be given.
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Post Post #2203 (isolation #31) » Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:55 am

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Llamarble wrote:At this point we're pretty much waiting for Zito/Tragedy to decide who dies, which is unfortunate since they're probably scum with Kise.
You.

Llamarble.

What are the links between Zito/Tragedy and Kise.


FTR I'm ... not really sure what Tragedy is doing either.

QT remains a Hall of Mystery.


P.S. lulz meme
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Post Post #2206 (isolation #32) » Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:05 pm

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GreyICE wrote:What is your opinion on that, PZ, btw?
My opinion is that's the second time you've answered for Llamarble. Why.
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Post Post #2211 (isolation #33) » Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:09 pm

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GreyICE wrote:'cause it's the same whoever tells this stuff to you? I'm bored citing the obvious here, ask something interesting next time.
I didn't ask you to cite anything. GTFO
GreyICE wrote:More to the point, what's your thoughts on the entire Kise/LlamaFluff day 5 Wagon dance they did
His 153.

Hmm. I think I blew over that post cuz it's such a massive wall. K yeah that's not a townie mindset, I don't mind a Kise lynch.

Llamarble wrote:I mentioned my reasoning for Trag/Kise scumteam in 39 of my ISO.
So you did. Good deal.


@Dram
: I responded to your post, I'm assuming your silence means you agree?
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Post Post #2227 (isolation #34) » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:25 pm

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dramonic wrote:Sorry, forgot to reply to it <_<;
OIC

Good to know I'm so important <3 you bastard.
dramonic wrote:1. I don't see how my confusion with the lover pairs makes my vote worse, frankly.
No?

Iso 4: "nothing against you buddy, but your little lover is trying to attack my actual lover for reacting to a false accusation and calling Kise out for it, and that's freakin scummy."

Who is this addressing?
dramonic wrote: And I wouldn't say i didnt remember where my vote was as much as I wanted to put my vote on Q21 at that moment. It was already there, but I got to reiterate my stance :P
howwwwwwwwwww do you manage to contradict yourself in two sentences like whoosh.
dramonic wrote:I mean, I could go pull what made me think BS was town and what stopped me from thinking she was in her ISO if you wish
Yes plz.

GreyICE wrote:ZITO:

CLAIM SCUM IN THREAD
VOTE FOR ME OVER BUDDY
OR BUS
GREY:

WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHEN I DO NONE OF THESE THINGS???????/////



P.S. Antihero's last post was March 25th.
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Post Post #2275 (isolation #35) » Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:50 pm

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dramonic wrote: Q21
So if your confusion was around q21, who you were addressing, and voting, how is it not relevant?
dramonic wrote:She was town until the whole self-voting and "I ARE ANALYZING A SMILEY!" BS. then she went to hell faster than you can say hell.
That's fair. Did you post any of this in the thread tho?
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Post Post #2277 (isolation #36) » Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:15 pm

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Arrite.

GREY your lover is posting elsewhere on the site but not here what should I think of this.
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Post Post #2281 (isolation #37) » Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:25 pm

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Maybe you're not being attentive enough.

Have you tried calling him at work? Just to say hello?
Random flower drop?
Leave a note in his lunchbox?

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Post Post #2331 (isolation #38) » Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:07 am

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Yeah so I really dunno what to do with this game.

I still feel down deep that a dramonic lynch would be a good thing.

But I remember someone saying we're near deadline so

UNVOTE: dramonic
VOTE: Kise
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Post Post #2340 (isolation #39) » Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:26 pm

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LlamaFluff wrote:PZ made the wierd vote there given that I have been the one trying to make dram dead for a large portion of the game.
yaymod wrote:Llamarble (1): LlamaFluff
Dramonic (1): Papa Zito
LlamaFluff wrote:ash/llama is still about a 100x better lynch then this one.
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Post Post #2342 (isolation #40) » Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:39 pm

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I am cool with that list tho I'd stick Kise in there. Course I get why you wouldn't.

If you think we can swing an epic Ash lynch given time constraints then I'm all for it.
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Post Post #2364 (isolation #41) » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:34 am

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xRECKONERx wrote:Dram, what the fucking fuck-shit was that?
Dram is still town y/n?


@Grey: Regardless of your alignment you're playing against your wincon fyi.
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Post Post #2370 (isolation #42) » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:41 am

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If you're not going to play then replace out. Whining about people not playing while you're not playing is just lame.
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Post Post #2371 (isolation #43) » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:42 am

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xRECKONERx wrote:If he's town, he's not playing against his wincon.
If he's town his wincon is to lynch the scums. He's voting himself. Hurpadurp.
If he's scum his wincon is to mislynch the townies. He's voting himself. Hurpadurp.

Reck: Hurpadurp.
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Post Post #2377 (isolation #44) » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:46 am

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GreyICE wrote:PEDIT: PZ, you've had time for twice as many posts in the past few hours as you've contributed in the past few weeks.
I'm only half-listening to this conference call, yeah.

<b><font color="green">q21</font></b> - 13 (<b><font color="red">Snake</font></b>, <b><font color="green">silavor</font></b>, antihero, Nero Cain, <b><font color="red">vezokpiraka</font></b>, Dramonic, <b><font color="green">Haylen</font></b>, <b><font color="green">Mariyta</font></b>, <b><font color="green">Tragedy</font></b>, Reck, GreyICE, <b><font color="red">Baby Spice</font></b>, <b><font color="red">Kcdaspot</font></b>)
GreyICE - 4 (<b><font color="green">Purple Orange</font></b>, <b><font color="green">Espeonage</font></b>, EmpTyger, <b><font color="green">Umbrage</font></b>)
<b><font color="red">Kcdaspot</font></b> - 3 (Thingyman, DarlaBlueEyes, Llamarble)
<b><font color="green">Espeonage</font></b> - 2 (werewolf555, <b><font color="green">q21</font></b>)
<b><font color="green">Umbrage</font></b> - 1 (<b><font color="green">PrayPiotr</font></b>)

Not Voting - 1 (<b><font color="green">Kise</font></b>)


<b><font color="red">Kcdaspot</font></b> - 12 (Reck, <b><font color="green">silavor</font></b>, vezok, <b><font color="green">Tragedy</font></b>, Nero, Dram, <b><font color="green">Mariyta</font></b>, <b><font color="red">Kcdaspot</font></b>, GreyICE, werewolf, <b><font color="green">Kise</font></b>, Llamarble)
<b><font color="green">Mariyta</font></b> - 3 (<b><font color="green">Espeonage</font></b>, <b><font color="green">Purple Orange</font></b>, <b><font color="red">Baby Spice</font></b>)
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Post Post #2378 (isolation #45) » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:47 am

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Aww crap. I'll fix that, hang on.
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Post Post #2383 (isolation #46) » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:51 am

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q21
- 13 (
Snake
,
silavor
, antihero, Nero Cain,
vezokpiraka
, Dramonic,
Haylen
, Mariyta, Tragedy, Reck, GreyICE,
Baby Spice
,
Kcdaspot
)
GreyICE - 4 (
Purple Orange
,
Espeonage
, EmpTyger,
Umbrage
)
Kcdaspot
- 3 (Thingyman, DarlaBlueEyes, Llamarble)
Espeonage
- 2 (werewolf555,
q21
)
Umbrage
- 1 (
PrayPiotr
)

Not Voting - 1 (
Kise
)


Kcdaspot
- 12 (Reck,
silavor
, vezok, Tragedy, Nero, Dram, Mariyta,
Kcdaspot
, GreyICE, werewolf,
Kise
, Llamarble)
Mariyta
- 3 (
Espeonage
,
Purple Orange
,
Baby Spice
)
Llamarble - 2 (antihero, EmpTyger)
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Post Post #2386 (isolation #47) » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:56 am

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That's the first two wagons.

I found it telling that both mafia lover pairs were on the q21 wagon. I believe one of not both of the werewolf pairs may be.

Wait sorry.

READ SCUM THAT'S THE FIRST TWO WAGONS AND SHOWS YOU MAY BE WEREWOLF SCUM LOLOLloLOlOl
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Post Post #2388 (isolation #48) » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:17 am

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HE'S COMPLAINING I DON'T POST WHILE COMPLAINING I'M POSTING.

HE'S VOTING ME FOR POSTING.

SO YEAH MAYBE SO.

Though I think watching Ashblade or dramonic swing gently in the breeze first would help.
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Post Post #2390 (isolation #49) » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:24 am

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Why is Ashblade town.

dammit

ASHBLADE IS USELESs AND HAS POSTINED LES THAN ME WHY IS HE TOWN AND I"M SCUM LOLOL?
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Post Post #2393 (isolation #50) » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:36 am

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GREY
Ashblade wrote:AKA a case by Friday.
Ashblade wrote:Prod received, sorry about being away.

And finally! The lynch went through on Kise. That I'm happy about. If he doesn't flip scum I'll shut up about it.
THIS IS WHERE YOUR TOWNREAD COMES FRMO AMIRITE? SHOWING UP RIGHT WHEN THE MISLYNCH GOES DOWN SANS CASE ON SAID MISLYNCH?
GreyICE wrote: Well I suggest it's because his PM is town, and yours was 'werewolf.'

But that's okay.
RHETORIC VS DATA AND LOGIC HMM
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Post Post #2412 (isolation #51) » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:05 pm

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xRECKONERx wrote:Yeah, but if he's town, he's willingly voting himself to get that over with since he knows he's dead in the water.

Orly.

I see a budding counterwagon that says otherwise.
xRECKONERx wrote:It could also be a scum ploy to gain town points.
I like how you entertain this possibility but don't. :D
xRECKONERx wrote:ITT Zito treats idle speculation without factual evidence as God-given truth
Papa Zito wrote:
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one of not both of the werewolf pairs
may
be.
mmhmm
xRECKONERx wrote:PZ to jump down his throat right off the bat.
orly

Where's my vote right now Reck?


See the best part of this is that I'm suddenly active (aka a threat) and now come the votes.

AND you're playing the Stupid Pairs Game again. ffs Find one and
then
find the other.


P.S. GREY you still didn't explain your Ashblade is town or how his fewer posts are somehow better than my moar posts.
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Post Post #2414 (isolation #52) » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:10 pm

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Reck's partner is Nero Cain. :D
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Post Post #2417 (isolation #53) » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:19 pm

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I'm using those wagons as starting points, absolutely.

If you look close you'll find yet another "may be" in there. And "may be" is so far from "God-given truth" it hurts.

IT HURTS RECK.
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Post Post #2420 (isolation #54) » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:35 pm

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BUT RECK
xRECKONERx wrote:ITT Zito treats idle speculation without factual evidence as God-given truth
xRECKONERx wrote:"may be" is just another way of not committing to something so you can back out OH LOOK LIKE YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW
HOW CAN THIS BE

P.S.
xRECKONERx wrote:I HAVE CLEARLY SAID (AT LEAST A BILLION TIMES NOW) THAT MY READ ON DRAM IS PURE GUT & META & PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP STUFF
xRECKONERx wrote:ITT Zito treats idle speculation without factual evidence as God-given truth
lol?

P.P.S.
xRECKONERx wrote:Tragedy, what the fuck.
Tragedy is a pure snowflake on the December winds. I don't know where she's going either but it's beautiful to watch.
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Post Post #2425 (isolation #55) » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:01 pm

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xRECKONERx wrote:You obviously think that your vote count analysis has some merit. God-given truth was a hyperbole.
Yes I do. Glad to see you backtracking here.
xRECKONERx wrote:If I had not called you out on it, you probably would've continued to do VCA to link Grey to being werewolf in some shady manner.
Two issues here.

1. If what I'm supposedly going to do (ITT Reck prognosticates!) is so "shady" why wouldn't you continue to let me do it? Stopping an enemy from making a mistake why?
2. How do you know Grey
isn't
a werewolf?

VOTE: xRECKONERx
xRECKONERx wrote:Fact is, doing VCA right now is utter bullshit especially considering your only response to how it could be useful was that WELL I THINK WEREWOLF WERE DEF. ON THE WAGON THOUGH IDK HOW
With both members of one scumteam sitting happily on that first wagon, I see no reason why it wouldn't draw the other one as well.

A couple things make this attack really poor.

1. I already talked about these wagons here yet it didn't garner this response at that time. It didn't get any response at all in fact.
2. I hadn't posted a vote or any real analysis yet, just the wagons themselves. You're attacking me for what I might do or could do and didn't even wait to see if I would do those.
xRECKONERx wrote:NOT THE SAME THING.
So much lulz.
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Post Post #2511 (isolation #56) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:50 am

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Yay I threw my back out this weekend.

DH can you lay down those plethora of reasons for me in a nice organized post plz.
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Post Post #2516 (isolation #57) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:26 pm

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DemonHybrid wrote:Your vote has been on Espy since Mariyta left.
Yup. I had two confirmed townies who'd been in the game from the beginning and they both said Espeonage was scum, so I saw no reason to change.
I mention that here:
Papa Zito wrote:Given Esp I'm not really willing to sheep Tragedy anymore.
Also I'm not sure why I'd make any comments on Mariyta's play. Nobody asked for any, I know what her alignment was, what was the point? When was this ever standard?


I disagree with my posts being fluff. :P


Next bit about dram: I'd been doing iso rereads of people in the background e.g.
Papa Zito wrote:So this post prompted me to do an ISO read and it came out a lot better than I expected.
and if I posted a case later then what's the problem then? First you argue I'm not scumhunting now you're arguing that questioning dram is bad?
DemonHybrid wrote:Talk about wagon hops. Nearing deadline is NOT a substitute for doing no scumhunting.
Erm yeah except I have been. I don't care if it's DemonHybrid Brand (tm) or not and also making sure a lynch goes through at deadline is scummy how?
DemonHybrid wrote:This is purely an OMGUS post.
Reck slipped that he knows Grey is town.


So to sum up, your multitude of reasons turned out to be:
1. I stayed on Espeonage.
2. I voted dram.
3. I'm not scumhunting the way you'd like me to.

Not terribly impressive, Inspector Gadget.


P.S. According to QT Mariyta replaced out because you're all a bunch of dipshits. So there's that.
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Post Post #2530 (isolation #58) » Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:49 am

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DemonHybrid wrote:Two confirmed townies?

So (to you), that'd be Tragedy and...who else?
Mariyta, obv.
DemonHybrid wrote:I'm not asking you to make comments. I'm stating what was wrong with her play.
DemonHybrid wrote:Sort of weak reasoning.
Still not any comments on Mariyta's play
, agreements or disagreements on the current vote and reasoning to back it up.
DemonHybrid wrote:What is more genuine: making a case and then placing a vote or placing a vote before you even think about making a case?
Both are perfectly acceptable.
DemonHybrid wrote:There is no indication that you think Kise is scum. In fact, you explicitly state that you believe Kise is "townish", but still go for his lynch anyway.
Incorrect.
PZ 33 wrote:Hmm. I think I blew over that post cuz it's such a massive wall. K yeah that's not a townie mindset, I don't mind a Kise lynch.
PZ 40 wrote:I am cool with that list tho I'd stick Kise in there. Course I get why you wouldn't.
DemonHybrid wrote:Papa Zito sheeped and killed two townies. He sheeped and killed two townies. And that's terrible.
This
is
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DemonHybrid wrote:My point is that if Mari thought Espy was scum legitimately, she wouldn't have flipped out and left the game at a countercase from him.
She mentioned 3 people in the QT as being the reason why she left. Espeonage wasn't one of them. And out of respect for her privacy (and I dunno if these QTs are gonna be made public or not anyway) I won't say who they were. It had nothing to do with "pressure" from what I read in there.
DemonHybrid wrote:How could you forget who you replaced?
wat

So my takeaway from all this is that you're cherry-picking my iso.

Just to sum up, the two who've bothered to post reasons for my lynch want me dead cuz:

1. I posted a colorful vote count;
2. I may have in the future done something "shady";
3. I trusted the reads of two townies confirmed to me who were in the game from the beginning;
4. Sometimes I make a case and vote, and sometimes I vote then make a case;
5. I'm "tunneling random people" which is somehow different from regular scumhunting.

Now if you guys can't figure out my alignment based on that mess then we should just gg now and give the game to the wolves.
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Post Post #2532 (isolation #59) » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:04 am

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DemonHybrid wrote:I didn't think you were counting yourself.
I'm not. Mariyta is a different person. She had her own view of the game, just as Tragedy has her own view of the game. Both of these people were on Espeonage's wagon when I replaced in. In fact, Mariyta seemed to be leading it. It had nothing to do with being "lethargic" and more to do with trusting the reads of players I knew I could trust. I've even provided a quote to back this up so I'm not sure why you continue to push this point except for the sake of pushing it.
DemonHybrid wrote:You're completely dodging the point. Epsy shouldn't even HAVE BEEN one of them. If she thought he was scum, no amount of countercase should make her blow up that easily.
No, you're completely missing the point. She felt that 3 people in this game were being mean to her personally. She decided she no longer wanted to play with those people and replaced out. It had absolutely nothing to do with Espeonage, or anything Espeonage said, or anything Espeonage did. It had entirely to do with three other people being mean to her and her not wanting to deal with it.

And as a person who's done the exact same thing, as town, I totally support her decision.
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Post Post #2535 (isolation #60) » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:59 am

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DemonHybrid wrote:I don't buy that the only reason why you stayed on that wagon is because you "trust Mariyta's read".
ok
DemonHybrid wrote:The whole "attacking her play" issue came after the fact. I'm not denying that there's frustration nor did I ever deny that there was frustration, but Espy did no personal attacking and what Mari responded to was not personal attacking, but legitimate play. -that- is my point, and I understand yours, but I'm focusing on the main point, not a side effect of what was going on at the time.
All I can tell you is what's in the QT. She says she's replacing out because some people suck, and Espeonage isn't mentioned. That's really all I have to say about that.

In the meantime yes we need moar participation.
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Post Post #2536 (isolation #61) » Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:30 am

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Papa Zito wrote:1. I posted a colorful vote count;
2. I may have in the future done something "shady";
3. I trusted the reads of two townies confirmed to me who were in the game from the beginning;
4. Sometimes I make a case and vote, and sometimes I vote then make a case;
5. I'm "tunneling random people" which is somehow different from regular scumhunting.
Oh I forgot:
6. I started posting more (courtesy of GreyICE)

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Post Post #2594 (isolation #62) » Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:57 pm

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Fate wrote:ARE YOU GUYS FUCKING KIDDING ME


YOU LET DEMONHYBRID COME IN AND SPAM UP THE THREAD

AND HIM AND GREY ARE CACKLING IN THEIR SCUMLOVER QT

:TEEHHEHEH ALL U HAZ TO DO IS PUT THE SLIGHTEST EFFORT INTO THIS GAME AND THEY EAT OF YOUR HANDSTEHHEHEHEH:


FOR

FUCKS

SAKE

WE

ARE

LYNCHING

GREY

TODAY
Given recent events, I am absolutely down.

UNVOTE: xRECKONERx
VOTE: GreyICE

When they flip scum we lynch Reck next y/Y?
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Post Post #2597 (isolation #63) » Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:07 pm

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I had a town read on Grey before too.

But then he decided I was a good lynch cuz I was posting more.

So lol to that.
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Post Post #2606 (isolation #64) » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:11 pm

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GreyICE wrote:And PZ, nice misrep.
GreyICE wrote:I'm voting for you for ALL OF A SUDDEN posting like a fiend.
P.S.
GreyICE wrote:Fine, lynch me.

I don't even care.
How's that workin out for ya?

lulz
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Post Post #2607 (isolation #65) » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:13 pm

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You know what's really fun is that they're not gonna vote themselves. So sorry, no mislynch for you. :D

HAY mastin why is Antihero town?
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Post Post #2617 (isolation #66) » Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:28 am

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dramonic wrote:If this is really what it takes for you to finally understand that GREY'S FUCKING SCUM...

unvote
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This is stupid.
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Post Post #2619 (isolation #67) » Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:26 am

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If you finished it post it anyway.
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Post Post #2622 (isolation #68) » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:20 am

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Ragefail?

And yeah I figured.

One more down for Mislynch Ltd. c/o Chairman GreyICE.
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Post Post #2645 (isolation #69) » Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:27 am

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mastin2 wrote:Whoah. Three pages in a day? Before, it was, like, half a page in two days. >_<

/Reads.
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Post Post #2655 (isolation #70) » Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:26 pm

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*PING*

Ms. Tragedy to the QT, Ms. Tragedy to the QT please.

*PING*
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Post Post #2674 (isolation #71) » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:02 pm

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Hay Fate.

I like your Reck hate but I has a question.

If Reck is scum fo sho then why is the vote on Grey?
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Post Post #2675 (isolation #72) » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:02 pm

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Holy postfest.
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Post Post #2677 (isolation #73) » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:04 pm

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shh adults are talking shh
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Post Post #2680 (isolation #74) » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:18 pm

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I guess I should do this in caps.

RECK HOW DO YOU KNOW FATE IS TOWN

HOW DO YOU KNOW HE'S NOT SCUM GOING FOR THE GOLD

INSERT MOAR THINGS TO YELL ABOUT HERE
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Post Post #2682 (isolation #75) » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:39 pm

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So it's entirely meta.

Godawful meta.
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Post Post #2689 (isolation #76) » Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:11 pm

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I'm almost positive I've gotten something out of this conversation, but I'm going to run it by Tragedy first.
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Post Post #2782 (isolation #77) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:30 pm

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Fate wrote:DON'T EVEN HAVE THE BALLS TO TRY AND MISLYNCH ZITO?
They tried it yesterday.
Yaw wrote:Papa Zito (3): GreyICE, xRECKONERx, DemonHybrid
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Not Voting: Ashblade, EmpTyger, mastin2, Hiraki

7 to lynch
I was too hard to lynch so they all sloughed off to EmpTyger, who wasn't around to defend himself.

Now they're going after Tragedy because her Universal Translator is broken. And look, it's the same pair, Grey and Reck, happily holding hands and skipping off into sunshine and rainbows.

I am absolutely convinced Reck is scum. Here: VOTE: xRECKONERx

I'm also convinced Trag has her vote in the wrong place too. Trying to hash that out now.
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Post Post #2783 (isolation #78) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:32 pm

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Gawd, look at mastin's iso. How anyone could think that's town is beyond me.
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Post Post #2807 (isolation #79) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:54 pm

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xRECKONERx wrote:Zito goes "Oh lol btw I think it's Reck but Llama is probs his partner"

And starts a new wagon on me
Instead of voting for Llama/Ash

CAN YOU NOT SEE THIS SHIT DH
I... totally didn't say that at all. Reading comprehension plz.
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Post Post #2812 (isolation #80) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:58 pm

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xRECKONERx wrote:Also, why, Zito, are you voting for me when I didn't even have a wagon going and GreyICE, who you believe to be my scumbuddy, was much closer to a lynch? This fucking reeks of scum.
For one, I'm not doing the fail partner thing.

Two, I'm far more sure that you are scum then either Grey or Dram. Though if someone stuck a gun to my head I'd pick Grey.

Three, lol @ "why me bawwww"
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Post Post #2824 (isolation #81) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:11 pm

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GreyICE wrote:Zito

Not that you didn't basically confirm yourself scum the moment you voted for Reck... but did you read the entire day 1 with the kill/no-kill shit?
I don't see how that proves anything. I don't see how that little sequence couldn't have been contrived. I
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don't see it when the end result was you having a town read on Reck at the end of it about 20 posts later.
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Post Post #2827 (isolation #82) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:14 pm

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xRECKONERx wrote:Stuff like "Eh, ignore Trag, not sure what she's doing"
Yeah, that'd be really constructive for a scum team at this juncture, wouldn't it.
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Post Post #2838 (isolation #83) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:32 pm

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dramonic wrote:Give me a few minutes, I need to play out the scenarios where I could be wrong about the pairing.
Anything involving me and Tragedy is wrong.



Grey reminded everyone of the no kill thing. That's an important dynamic in this game. The scum can't kill, so they have to push mislynches. Reck and Grey/DH tried it on me yesterday, couldn't get it, so they pushed it through on Emp. Now they've gone after my pair again, only this time with Tragedy since she won't fight back as hard. With mastin bopping along like a little lost puppy right behind them of course.

This'll be a really sad loss for town.
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Post Post #2846 (isolation #84) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:41 pm

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I already explained why my vote is on Reck.

There's no reason why "Hey Grey let's distance when the game starts" "lolok" couldn't have happened.

This is so incredibly stupid. I need to stop playing games for a while.
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Post Post #2848 (isolation #85) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:42 pm

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^^ See that doesn't help tho. I know you're town cuz why would your partner leave with only 3 more votes to victory.

Which is one thing I was waiting on Tragedy to comment on but this game's pretty much over anyway so.
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Post Post #2856 (isolation #86) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:47 pm

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I can hope to get a lynch on Reck because I can hope the town gets their heads out and realizes what's going on.

You just showed why going after Reck instead of a softer target doesn't make much sense as scum so thanks for that I guess.
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Post Post #2859 (isolation #87) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:54 pm

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I guess I'm awful then.

I've also got a massive headache and work in a few hours so I'm going to bed. I fully expect a hammer on Tragedy soonish and then a bunch of townies shuffling their feet and going "well gee guyz um" so I have that to look forward to, yay.
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Post Post #2967 (isolation #88) » Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:29 am

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